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mcfriskhi, how much diskspace selftests need to pass currently? 1Tb does not seem to be enough.07:23
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RPmcfrisk: not sure. Probably depends how much parallelism you enable09:27
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Guest5Hi. Is there any info related to freedesktop site (https://mesa.freedesktop.org/)  migration?10:09
yoctonGuest5: They announced instability for around a week starting today if I remember correctly10:20
svuorelaGuest5: what info are you looking for?10:20
svuorelathey a month ago announced downtime from yesterday until saturday10:20
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rburtonGuest5: that link literally has a breakdown of the tasks and status, not sure what else we could add!10:56
rburtonhopefully our source mirrors have everything important...10:56
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kilobyte_chI have Matchbox as WM. My backlight (/sys/class/backlight/rpi_backlight/bl_power) returns 4. This means POWERDOWN. Any idea how to get this working? Do I need to change something in mini-x-session?11:43
kilobyte_chWhen changing bl_power to 0, the backlight starts to work.11:43
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rburtonRP: do you think that license files that are used by _one_ recipe because it has the recipe name embedded in should be in common-licenses, or we should use NO_GENERIC_LICENSE more liberally and put it alongside the recipe?12:02
rburton(looking at the docbook-xml v4 recipe which has bespoke license that isn't spdx)12:07
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RPrburton: I think we should be migrating common-licenses to be two sets, our own and SPDX12:13
RPrburton: and using no generic license more would probably make sense12:13
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RPrburton: if you're thinking about licensing, https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?h=master-next&id=36a31ade17b4a3b49c9b51852375058731f03727 is fun. See the linked commit12:15
RPrburton: I did ignore a couple of custom refs :/12:15
rburtonfecking gpl312:16
rburtonyour LICENSE doesn't say gpl3 but the readme says "The command line tool, self tests, examples, and other auxiliaryfiles, are licensed under the GNU General Public License version 3.012:17
rburtonor later - see the file [COPYING](COPYING)."12:17
RPrburton: idn?12:18
rburtonoh yeah sorry12:18
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rburtonwhy is there an idn commit in the xkbcommon changelog :)12:18
RPrburton: er.12:19
RPthat should be https://github.com/xkbcommon/libxkbcommon/commit/e120807bdeb896d63abd366ea4478d79d91f1ae812:19
RPfixed and pushed12:20
rburtoni wrote a little tool to help with license triage, i should dig it out12:21
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RPrburton: I'm happy to have a sanity check on idn2 and xkbcommon. I don't think anything really changed, just clarifications12:29
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Guest5Since Yocto is directly using the link to gitlab.freedesktop.org, now mesa, libdrm, etc are not able to fetch the source code.15:00
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rburtonGuest5: this is why we have source mirrors15:09
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Guest5Maybe I'm missing something. I was looking for a public mirror where I can find mesa 25.0 and libdrm 2.4.124, but I wasn't able to find.15:14
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RPGuest5: https://downloads.yoctoproject.org/mirror/sources/libdrm-2.4.124.tar.xz ?15:15
Guest5Auch. Thanks a lot!15:16
rburtonGuest5: bitbake will automatically fetch from there, unless you've got a distro that doesn't set that up.15:16
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RPrburton: we should let you loose on more recipes. So many could do with a good cleanup :)15:19
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Guest5I'm using a newer mesa version, but I found it here: https://archive.mesa3d.org/mesa-25.0.0.tar.xz15:30
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rburtonqschulz: look stop being pedantic exactly like i am when i review patches, it hurts15:35
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qschulzrburton: :upside_down:15:43
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qschulzrburton: i'm more "concerned" about the license change15:44
qschulzYocto isn't that pedantic about commit splitting, especially for recipes, so up to you :)15:44
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qschulznot sure if that was proper English but you got the gist I assume15:44
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rburtonyeah i was torn on splitting the packaging up so the pam module was in a separate package15:44
qschulzI would assume the libcap cleanup could be backportable15:45
qschulzespecially the license part15:45
qschulzbut splitting into different packages, that is a bit harder for current releases15:45
qschulz(simply an addition RDEPENDS but still...)15:46
qschulzadditional*15:46
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sappyIs it always the case that if there's a layer with higher priority having a recipe with lower PV, then the lower version will be picked up in the build? Obviously, no preferred version is mentioned.16:45
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JaMasappy: yes16:46
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sappyThanks16:50
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rburtonqschulz: sent a v2 :)17:09
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rburtonargh forgot the license updated tag AGAIN17:33
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alcroitoHi. I have a yocto-related spdx sbom question. Afaik yocto generates spdx 3.x documents, in contrast to 2.3 that many other projects generate. Is there any commercial or opensource tooling that is able to consume 3.1 documents yet? I'm wondering what's the use case for 3.x documents, aside from manual inspection.18:29
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rburtonalcroito: if you _need_ 2.x then you can switch the class to 2.  there is a lack of tooling for 3 at the moment yes18:33
rburton3 documents are standard, the 2 documents are non-standard in various ways18:33
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alcroitoi don't need 2.x. I'm asking because i'm working on another project that currently generates 2.x docs, and wondering if there's any sensible way to consume 3.x ones. Yocto is one of the only open source projects that i know generates 3.x, so that's why i thought to ask here18:34
rburtonthat would be because the person who wrote our spdx code was also contributing to the 3 specification :)18:34
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rburtoni wouldn't be surprised if we were the first thing to produce 3.x documents for that reason to be honest18:35
alcroitook, so could that be interpreted as a "yocto is ready for 3.x, but there is no reason yet to use it'18:35
rburtonwell if you don't need them then there's no reason to use either, right?  but if you want to archive a sbom then a the spdx3 document will actually be fully compliant and cover everything.  our spdx2 files tend to break tooling...18:37
rburtonsomething about they don't expect several hundred megs of interlinking spdx218:37
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alcroitowell i might want to need them, if i found out there is tooling that can actually consume it, and gives some value out of it (vuln scanners, validators, etc) :)18:38
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alcroitoyes, i can imagine the issue with the big interlinking case18:39
rburtonhttps://github.com/savoirfairelinux/vulnscout <-- this reads spdx3 from yocto18:39
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alcroitoNice, i'll take a look at it. Thank you :)18:41
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JPEWalcroito: The biggest hurdle to getting SPDX 3 more widely adopted ATM is that most of the "common" tools are all web based go code, and the go binding still need some work (I've done all the binding work so far, but I'm not a go person)19:31
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khemJPEW:what kind of bindings are needed20:45
JPEWkhem: The current low level go bindings are here: https://github.com/spdx/spdx-go-model. Either protobom needs to directly integrate those or those need to be added to https://github.com/spdx/tools-golang and then protobom needs those20:51
JPEWOr brand new generated go lang bindings; I'd never written go before when I made those and it shows20:51
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khemJPEW:so final solution is to have version 3 supported in https://github.com/spdx/tools-golang20:58
JPEWkhem: That would probably be the easiest, then protobom and others can consume that20:59
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khemit seems 2.3 is supported no old and no newer than that21:25
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RPkhem: I merged that libmatchbox patch21:43
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