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| eddy2win | hi , where can I find document for what output files created by "bitbake linux-yocto -c compile" , "bitbake linux-yocto -c deploy" , "bitbake linux-yocto " | 00:42 |
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| eddy2win | and after these, if I want to create new .hddimg image file, should I use "bitbake core-image-basic"? or can I do other faster way? | 00:44 |
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| mattnie | I am to stupid to find a good development manual for recipes.. is there something like that, which describes a step by step guide / howto? | 07:32 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 08:17 |
| mattnie | good morning mr. :) | 08:21 |
| bluelightning | hi mattnie | 08:21 |
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| mattnie | I didn't found a good development manual for recipes.. is there something like that, which describes a step by step guide / howto? | 08:49 |
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| bluelightning | mattnie: about the closest thing we have is http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#usingpoky-extend-addpkg | 08:56 |
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| bluelightning | mattnie: with the variable glossary in the reference manual being the best place to look for what each variable does | 08:58 |
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| mattnie | bluelightning: thanks.. it is very hard for a beginner to get familiar with yocto.. respectively to understand how it works.. | 10:02 |
| bluelightning | mattnie: I'll try to make sure we have a more step-by-step "how to create a recipe" section for the next release | 10:03 |
| bluelightning | mattnie: I think the documentation has been improving steadily though | 10:03 |
| bluelightning | if you have any other suggestions please let us know :) | 10:03 |
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| mattnie | bluelightning: thanks, that sounds great ;) Correct me if i am wrong, but recipes are one of the important things in yocto and there isn't very much in the documentation about it.. | 10:07 |
| bluelightning | mattnie: it's a weak point in the docs I agree | 10:08 |
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| bluelightning | mattnie: I guess most people get by at the moment by just looking at other recipes | 10:08 |
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| mattnie | bluelightning: Ok but still it is a bit confusing for me^^ but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I also want to mention that you do a great job with yocto!!!!!!!!!!! | 10:10 |
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| bluelightning | mattnie: thanks | 10:12 |
| bluelightning | mattnie: FWIW, we're happy to answer questions here when you do come to writing recipes | 10:13 |
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| mattnie | bluelightning: thanks again :) | 10:25 |
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| Crofton|work | RP, regarding the white space discussion, has someone complained to you about the issue privately, without joining the on list discussion? | 11:42 |
| RP | Crofton|work: I know if I change OE-Core like is proposed, I will get serious complaints :( | 11:42 |
| Crofton|work | but will they make the complaints as part of the public discussion? | 11:43 |
| RP | Crofton|work: I'm being asked to work as a spokesperson here :/ | 11:43 |
| Crofton|work | Well, let's say | 11:44 |
| Crofton|work | I ahet to see you forced into the middle | 11:44 |
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| ant_work | ahem, imho I think there are other outstanding issues | 11:55 |
| ant_work | RP: postpone :) | 11:55 |
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| mattnie | Hello can someone explain me how i found out, which u-boot config is used for my build? (meta-fsl-arm / mx6q_sabresd) | 12:18 |
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| mcfrisk | mattnie: look at your build directory, them tmp, then find out where the u-boot sources are, check configure and build logs | 12:30 |
| RP | ant_work: postpone? | 12:34 |
| ant_work | RP: ubi maior minor cessat | 12:35 |
| ant_work | you can deviate the discussions and insist they ought to fix udev and systemd | 12:35 |
| ant_work | before | 12:35 |
| ant_work | oh, and xserver too | 12:35 |
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| mattnie | mcfrisk: thank you for your hint but I didn't maged it.. if you have time please look at http://pastebin.com/qJEzmYdT | 12:54 |
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| mcfrisk | mattnie: do_configure log, or the configure script in u-boot.inc | 13:06 |
| mcfrisk | mattnie: actually first line of u-boot compile log in meta-fsl-arm, pandaboard has it configure log | 13:09 |
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| mattnie | mcfrisk: i did not understnad it.. :( i did not find the do_configure log for u-boot / core-image-minimal | 13:29 |
| mcfrisk | mattnie: then "bitbake -c devshell u-boot", switch to the new shell, cd temp, grep config log*. | 13:30 |
| bluelightning | mcfrisk: mattnie: or you can find the temp directory using bitbake -e u-boot | grep ^T= | 13:38 |
| bluelightning | (the T variable is where the log files get stored, and this prints the value of T for u-boot) | 13:38 |
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| mattnie | mcfrisk: bluelightning: thank you :) booth ways leading to destination^^^ | 13:45 |
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| bluelightning | jackmitchell: btw, just out of interest are you using one of the available connman frontends or did you write your own? | 14:40 |
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| jackmitchell | bluelightning: I use my own | 14:43 |
| bluelightning | ok | 14:43 |
| jackmitchell | bluelightning: shoved out for testing really, I don't expect it to go anywhere for a while :) | 14:44 |
| bluelightning | connman does try to make writing frontends fairly straightforward at least | 14:45 |
| jackmitchell | bluelightning: haha, maybe; I started with a dbus implementation which was horrible, glib is a disaster (IMO ;)) | 14:45 |
| jackmitchell | and switched to using provisioning and writing config files which connman then picks up automatically | 14:46 |
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| bluelightning | jackmitchell: heh, well I used my own hacked qt2-dbus bindings for my one :) | 14:46 |
| jackmitchell | bluelightning: yeah, with a sane dbus library it wouldn't have been an issue | 14:46 |
| * jackmitchell waits expectantly on kdbus and hopes libsystemdbus to be a friendly userspace lib | 14:47 | |
| rburton | jackmitchell: lols | 14:47 |
| jackmitchell | rburton: I can dream :D | 14:48 |
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| rburton | i have approximately 0% confidence that the migration path to kdbus will be smooth | 14:48 |
| jackmitchell | tbh I would be perfectly happy with libsystemdbus (or whatever it's currently being called) provides a small simple library to dbus calls | 14:50 |
| rburton | jackmitchell: you don't lilke gdbus then? | 14:51 |
| rburton | there's good old libdbus :) | 14:51 |
| rburton | or the confusingly-titled gdbus in connman itself | 14:51 |
| jackmitchell | gdbus is obsolete now, no? It's recommended not to be used | 14:51 |
| jackmitchell | and they say you would be daft to use libdbus | 14:51 |
| jackmitchell | so it's either qt or glib | 14:51 |
| rburton | gdbus is the one in glib | 14:51 |
| jackmitchell | ah ok, I thought you were refering to old gdbus.. | 14:52 |
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| rburton | well, the standalone gdbus is totally dead. there's another gdbus inside connman/bluez. | 14:52 |
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| rburton | hehe, start moaning about dbus libs and walters appears | 14:52 |
| rburton | dbus-glib was great, at the time. | 14:53 |
| walters | mmm, smcv does the most work now | 14:53 |
| jackmitchell | I would love to have a clean, higher level dbus implementation in libdbus | 14:53 |
| walters | oh man i am so sorry for dbus-glib | 14:53 |
| rburton | walters: we were young and innocent | 14:53 |
| walters | heh | 14:54 |
| rburton | jackmitchell: high-leve but still pure C? doesn't really make sense. | 14:54 |
| walters | i like GDBus, but then my universe revolves around glib | 14:54 |
| jackmitchell | rburton: just some wrappers to do some simple dbussing, when I did my connman dbus implementation I felt like half my program was dealing with dbus | 14:55 |
| rburton | jackmitchell: connman wrappers generally are :) | 14:56 |
| jackmitchell | rburton: to be fair, I didn't think the connman wrappers were viable any more, they're like an un-documented bastard child | 14:56 |
| rburton | the gdbus in connman itself? yeah, you'd have to be mad to actually use them | 14:57 |
| rburton | i meant connman UIs are mostly doing dbus calls | 14:57 |
| jackmitchell | ah right yes | 14:57 |
| rburton | use a better language than C and its easier | 14:58 |
| rburton | i have a prototype connman ui written in node | 14:58 |
| jackmitchell | easier said than done; people don't tend to trust things if it's not pre-compiled; you should have seen the fight on my hands to use PHP to get some simple webpage processing done on the device ;) | 14:59 |
| walters | PHP? might as well just open a passwordless telnet that gives a root shell ;) | 15:00 |
| jackmitchell | but yeah, I imagine using a nice high level abstracted language and dbus would be ok :) | 15:00 |
| rburton | well that's understandable, PHP is vile :) | 15:00 |
| jackmitchell | walters: hehe, didn't take long for that to get proven :{ | 15:00 |
| jackmitchell | :P | 15:00 |
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| jackmitchell | I suppose you would rather me put a python interpreter on it ;) | 15:01 |
| rburton | i was actually quite liking node for webby stuff | 15:01 |
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| jackmitchell | it's nice, but it's young, and it's also javascript which I'm not such a fan of coding with - but I am considering for future ventures | 15:02 |
| jackmitchell | functions defined in functions within anonymous functions make me want to cry :) | 15:04 |
| rburton | you best not look at bitbake then! :) | 15:04 |
| jackmitchell | rburton: I don't! | 15:04 |
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| jackmitchell | and that's one of the contributing reasons; maybe I need to join functions anonymous | 15:05 |
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| hrw | rburton: there is one problem with node.sj - requires v8 which is not yet there on aarch64 ;D | 15:11 |
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| bluelightning | hrw: and for those with actual aarch64 hardware at the moment I'm sure that's a problem ;) | 15:15 |
| hrw | bluelightning: of course ;D | 15:17 |
| hrw | rburton, bluelightning: you both are london based - right? | 15:17 |
| bluelightning | hrw: I am... rburton is near cambridge | 15:18 |
| hrw | ah. | 15:18 |
| hrw | bluelightning: will be in london/cambridge in few weeks from now - 16-22 May around | 15:18 |
| jackmitchell | rburton lives near me, he won't tell me where he lives though; scared I'll come knocking giving him OE releated grief ;) | 15:19 |
| hrw | ;D | 15:19 |
| hrw | jackmitchell: you do not want to hear me ;D | 15:20 |
| hrw | like 'why does bitbake does this: DEBUG: adding /home/hrw/HDD/devel/canonical/aarch64/openembedded/repos/openembedded-core/meta/recipes-core/eglibc/eglibc_2.17.bb to satisfy virtual/libc " | 15:21 |
| hrw | with external toolchain... | 15:21 |
| bluelightning | hrw: I'll definitely have a beer with you if you promise not to ask me about external toolchain support ;) | 15:22 |
| hrw | bluelightning: done ;) | 15:23 |
| jackmitchell | hrw: if you come up Ely way to see Ross I'll buy you pint for the PHP work you've been (unknowingly) helping me with ;) - and I won't make it Bishops Finger :P | 15:25 |
| bluelightning | :D | 15:25 |
| bluelightning | I've never had a Bishop's Finger and all I've heard about it does not make me want to try one... | 15:26 |
| hrw | ;)) | 15:27 |
| hrw | jackmitchell: without car I would probably visit only london and cambidge | 15:27 |
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| rburton | jackmitchell: ha, you can harass me enough here if you want to ;) | 15:58 |
| rburton | jackmitchell: but you do go pretty close to my house on the way to work :) | 16:04 |
| rburton | and i think i rode past your offices on monday | 16:04 |
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| jackmitchell | rburton: if you went near Sedgeway Business Park then you did :) | 16:09 |
| jackmitchell | anyway, 5pm, home time! till tomorrow all. | 16:09 |
| rburton | jackmitchell: turns out i went around it - did a ride around the byways | 16:10 |
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| otavio | How is the process for including something in dylan branch for now? | 17:00 |
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| bluelightning | otavio: pretty much the same as with danny | 17:05 |
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| otavio | bluelightning: is rburton the upcoming maintainer? | 17:16 |
| rburton | only for danny | 17:16 |
| bluelightning | otavio: I think I drew the short straw this time | 17:16 |
| bluelightning | ;) | 17:16 |
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| eren | rburton: is there something special about gnome recipes? | 17:23 |
| eren | in your last patch, (gnome-keyring), I cannot see archive URI | 17:24 |
| eren | I guess gnome.bbclass somehow automatically fills archive uri | 17:24 |
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| rburton | eren: yes, gnome.bbclass does that magically | 17:45 |
| eren | rburton: okkie :) | 17:46 |
| eren | 'automagically', I just learned that word, it's just a right word for this situation I guess | 17:46 |
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| Crofton|work | halstead, ping | 18:39 |
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| zecke | anyone working with perf? why does it pull in _everything_ of perl? | 19:08 |
| zecke | terminfo/newt.. is looking in my build dir for files.. that is kind of a security issue too. :} | 19:14 |
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| mranostay | zecke: kernel people love perl | 19:47 |
| mranostay | i mean really love it :) | 19:47 |
| zecke | mranostay: and the Yocto people like to perl-modules into RDEPENDS? | 19:57 |
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