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| gotan | hi. | 07:34 |
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| gotan | i have a quick question about excluding packages from an image. It must be possible, but cannot find any documentation on it other than BBMASK. | 07:36 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #172 of nightly-intel-gpl is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-intel-gpl/builds/172 | 08:00 | |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 08:07 |
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| zenlinux | morning bluelightning | 08:09 |
| * zenlinux waves from Tokyo | 08:09 | |
| bluelightning | zenlinux: hey... I was thinking it was late for you :) | 08:09 |
| bluelightning | zenlinux: good job on the minnowboard.org intro video btw, just watched it yesterday | 08:10 |
| zenlinux | heh, I have another video to post once I get back | 08:10 |
| zenlinux | in that one I smile a few times and don't act quite so serious :) | 08:10 |
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| zenlinux | headed to the Tokyo Hackerspace for a meeting tonight where I'll tell them about Minnow (and a quick Yocto introduction, too) | 08:11 |
| bluelightning | zenlinux: this whole hackerspace thing is still a bit new to me... I've been to one and it was in portland, I think maybe you took us there :) | 08:12 |
| zenlinux | did I? Or was it maybe Beth? | 08:12 |
| bluelightning | can't recall, it was a couple of trips ago | 08:12 |
| zenlinux | was it brainsilo - which is in a converted warehouse space in an industrial district | 08:12 |
| bluelightning | nah it was something in town... they had bits of PC hanging on the walls :) | 08:13 |
| bluelightning | hope you enjoy your time in Japan anyway, I'd love to go there someday | 08:14 |
| zenlinux | this is the best trip ever for me. I can't wait to come back | 08:15 |
| c00kiemon5ter | "best trip ever" "can't wait to come back" don't go together! | 08:17 |
| zenlinux | can't wait to come back to Tokyo, not home :) | 08:18 |
| c00kiemon5ter | ah :) | 08:18 |
| Net147 | hi bluelightning | 08:19 |
| bluelightning | hi Net147 | 08:19 |
| Net147 | bluelightning: I got mesa llvmpipe to run properly. for some reason it's really slow unless I compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer. it's now around 160 fps instead of like 2 fps. | 08:20 |
| bluelightning | hmm, some kind of weird interaction I guess... | 08:21 |
| Net147 | bluelightning: I isolated it to swrast_dri.so. if I swap it out with one from Arch Linux system it works fine. I don't think they compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer. strange. | 08:22 |
| Net147 | bluelightning: so something in the compiler, some strangeness in Mesa driver or some strange interaction with LLVM library | 08:22 |
| Net147 | bluelightning: I may do some profiling later to try to isolate the cause | 08:23 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 08:35 |
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| silviof | morning all | 08:51 |
| silviof | some imx6-freescale user here? I have the same issue like this: http://www.mail-archive.com/meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org/msg00033.html Give it a solution for it? | 08:52 |
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| RagBal | Is it possible to use a generated toolchain in Eclipse by setting it up manually instead of ADT? I have no understanding of the automake tools it is using and want it to be clean and simple | 09:11 |
| mckoan | silviof: only imx5 here ;-) but Otavio will wake up later | 09:13 |
| mckoan | RagBal: yes it is possible | 09:14 |
| silviof | mckoan: thx - than i will wait :-) | 09:14 |
| RagBal | Is there any guide for that? Because I can't seem to get it functional | 09:14 |
| mckoan | RagBal: no clue, have you tried with google? | 09:15 |
| RagBal | Ofc, but I now have found a guide for NetBeans, trying that out | 09:16 |
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| Net147 | khem: ping | 11:23 |
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| gonzzor | What is the difference between include and require in build/conf/local.conf? | 11:27 |
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| Net147 | rburton: how's the Mesa 9.1.3 update going? | 11:38 |
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| Net147 | JaMa: I got Mesa 9.1.3 llvmpipe working. had to add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to compile flags though otherwise slow performance. | 11:42 |
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| JaMa | Net147: good work, thanks! | 11:48 |
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| Net147 | JaMa: all the work is in a .bbappend in my private layer at the moment | 11:48 |
| JaMa | I'm building updated mesa+wayland atm | 11:48 |
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| Net147 | JaMa: do the LLVM patches look ok? | 11:49 |
| JaMa | did you had to specify which llvm-config should be used? because here it was missing 2.9 suffix to include dir when llvm-config --cflags were used (llvm-config2.9 works fine) | 11:50 |
| JaMa | Net147: yes, I've only squashed 2 of them (you can see it in contrib/jansa/in-test) | 11:50 |
| JaMa | Net147: I plan to merge them after next jenkins builds | 11:50 |
| Net147 | JaMa: I just add export WANT_LLVM_RELEASE = "3.2" | 11:51 |
| Net147 | JaMa: I am testing with LLVM 3.2 | 11:52 |
| Net147 | JaMa: I had problems with LLVM 2.9 due to missing symbol. I think may have to do with LLVM 2.9 being built with cmake. | 11:53 |
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| Net147 | JaMa: I observed building with autotools creates an all in one libLLVM-*.so with static .a for each component. building with cmake creates *.so for each component but doesn't create an all in one libLLVM-*.so | 11:55 |
| Net147 | JaMa: it has been recommended to link LLVM was shared library for Mesa due to various bugs using static LLVM | 11:55 |
| Net147 | JaMa: my .bbappend so far - http://pastebin.com/3YwJZ8m1 | 11:56 |
| JaMa | thanks I'll convert them to PACKAGECONFIG options for mesa in master | 12:00 |
| JaMa | so that we can enable galium and llvmpipe with much smaller bbappends later | 12:00 |
| Net147 | JaMa: I will submit the LLVM shared library cross compile fix for Mesa upstream | 12:01 |
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| Net147 | JaMa: note that some configure options are not recognized anymore in Mesa: --disable-glu, --disable-glw, --disable-glut. build will still continue but it will just show warning. | 13:05 |
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| bluelightning | gonzzor: "include" will include the file if it exists and not error if it doesn't; require will include the file and error if it doesn't exist | 13:27 |
| bluelightning | gonzzor: so we tend to use require unless we expect the build to continue if the file isn't there | 13:28 |
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| honschu | Hi, how to "fill" one file into a static ubi-volume? | 13:42 |
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| JaMa | rburton, Net147: please check last 9 commits http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=jansa/mesa it's based on our and Net147's .bbappends, still WIP | 13:44 |
| darknighte | Crofton: Crofton|work | 13:44 |
| Crofton | gm | 13:44 |
| darknighte | gm. | 13:44 |
| Crofton | gnuradio hackfest this weel | 13:45 |
| JaMa | Net147: can I merge your llvm-cross.patch to it? I would wait for you to submit it upstream, so that we can have correct Upstream-Status | 13:45 |
| darknighte | Crofton: cool | 13:45 |
| Crofton | JaMa, we see the source of the gnuradio issue you reported | 13:45 |
| JaMa | Crofton: great | 13:46 |
| Net147 | JaMa: it's submitted upstream. check on mesa-dev mailing list | 13:49 |
| Net147 | JaMa: albeit, I added a bit more to it | 13:50 |
| JaMa | ok, thanks | 13:51 |
| Net147 | JaMa: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2013-June/040167.html and http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2013-June/040168.html | 13:51 |
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| Net147 | JaMa: rburton added the first one to his 9.1.3 update | 13:51 |
| JaMa | yup my branch is based on his mesa/wayland/gtk upgrade | 13:52 |
| Net147 | JaMa: there are more gallium drivers than swrast. r300,r600,radeonsi,nouveau,svga,swrast for example. r600 needs LLVM 3.3 | 13:54 |
| Net147 | JaMa: LLVM 3.3 needs valgrind-native recipe I think which doesn't exist yet | 13:54 |
| Net147 | JaMa: LLVM 3.3 work in progress based on RC2 - http://pastebin.com/Y48B3YAC | 13:56 |
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| JaMa | Net147: people can extend GALLIUMDRIVERS list in .bbappend like we do for DRIDRIVERS | 14:00 |
| Net147 | JaMa: I see | 14:01 |
| Net147 | JaMa: good work | 14:01 |
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| Net147 | JaMa: I don't see -fno-omit-frame-pointer flag in your changes | 14:03 |
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| honschu | When I create a ubi-static-volume with "ubimkvol", how to write a kernel-image into that new static-ubi-volume? | 14:06 |
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| JaMa | Net147: it's there now, but I'm still waiting for test build to finish | 14:21 |
| JaMa | so consider this only as WIP to see what I plan to do | 14:22 |
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| jstashluk | is there a way to trace the files that set and modiry DISTRO_FEATURES? | 14:25 |
| jstashluk | *modify | 14:25 |
| Net147 | JaMa: I wonder if we should only apply the flag if using llvmpipe | 14:25 |
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| JaMa | Net147: it would be nice to understand why this flag slows whole thing down, then we could decide if it's good or bad to enable it for all or only llvmpipe builds | 14:27 |
| Net147 | JaMa: yes. I wonder if it's related to the GCC compiler version used. | 14:27 |
| Net147 | JaMa: since other distributions compile it without the flag and work fine | 14:28 |
| Net147 | JaMa: more specifically, it is something inside swrast_dri.so | 14:29 |
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| Net147 | JaMa: omitting frame pointer is a compiler optimisation that is supposed to speed things up | 14:30 |
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| Net147 | JaMa: --disable-glu --disable-glw --disable-glut are not recognized anymore in Mesa 9.1.3 so I wonder if we should drop those flags in mesa.inc | 14:32 |
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| JaMa | yes we should, I'll drop them in next patch | 14:35 |
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| gonzzor | bluelightning: Thanks | 14:39 |
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| sgw1 | YPTM: Saul here | 15:00 |
| fray | YPTM: Mark is here | 15:00 |
| jzhang-laptop | YPTM: jzhang on the call | 15:00 |
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| Song_Liu | YPTM: welcome to the meeting, please let me know who's on the bridge. Thanks! | 15:00 |
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| tomz1 | YPTM: Tom Z here | 15:00 |
| pidge | YPTM: Beth just joined | 15:00 |
| bluelightning | YPTM: Paul Eggleton is on the call | 15:00 |
| RP | Song_Liu: Richard is on the call | 15:00 |
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| belen1 | YPTM: belen is on the call | 15:03 |
| Song_Liu | YPTM: Any opens? | 15:04 |
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| nitink | YPTM: nitin is on the call | 15:05 |
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| Song_Liu | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Planning#Roadmaps_and_Schedules | 15:10 |
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| Zagor | isn't gcc flagging a bit short-sighted? | 15:18 |
| Zagor | yeah it hurts to rebuild everything, but you *did* replace the compiler after all | 15:19 |
| Zagor | we have e500 builds, but haven't started testing 4.8 yet | 15:20 |
| RP | Zagor: its a question you can't win on | 15:20 |
| RP | its also configurable | 15:20 |
| fray | ya.. versioning gcc 4.8.1 vs 4.8.0 is likely a loss.. but 4.7 to 4.8 is likely a win.. | 15:21 |
| fray | that was why my suggestion on using GCCVERSION = ... | 15:21 |
| fray | it covers only the main version string | 15:21 |
| fray | it's the e500 and e500v2 tune BTW | 15:21 |
| fray | and I've had about 10 people tell me that gcc 4.8.1 is now out.. :P (I think they're hoping that will fix the ICE...) but I havn't even looked at that, I usually defer to Khem | 15:24 |
| Song_Liu | YPTM: thank you all for joining the meeting. You all have a nice day/evening | 15:32 |
| RP | thanks Song_Liu | 15:32 |
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| mranostay | morning | 15:36 |
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| Zagor | sgw1: did you have something more you wanted to talk about, or can I go make dinner? :) | 15:45 |
| sgw1 | Zagor: I think we are good, if you can just send a list of packages you have pending that would be great. | 15:45 |
| Zagor | yep, I'll do that | 15:45 |
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| mranostay | morn' Jefro | 15:58 |
| Jefro | mranostay good morning - is it grey up there? thick fog down here (coastal northern CA) | 15:59 |
| mranostay | oh i keep forgeting you are in SC not JF | 16:01 |
| mranostay | blue skies today | 16:01 |
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| mranostay | suppose to be good weather for the whole weeke | 16:02 |
| mranostay | *week | 16:02 |
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| Ramana_ | Darren: I like to know if you have decided on any format of configuring disk images | 16:09 |
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| dvhart | Ramana_, do you mean partitioning or some other aspect? | 16:10 |
| Ramana_ | yes partitioning | 16:10 |
| dvhart | Ramana_, tomz1 is looking into that via https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3847 | 16:11 |
| yocti | Bug 3847: enhancement, Medium, 1.5 M2, tom.zanussi, IN PROGRESS DESIGN , New partitioning description and tooling | 16:11 |
| Ramana_ | as part of bug 3847 | 16:11 |
| yocti | Bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3847 enhancement, Medium, 1.5 M2, tom.zanussi, IN PROGRESS DESIGN , New partitioning description and tooling | 16:11 |
| dvhart | right :-) | 16:11 |
| dvhart | Ramana_, we haven't made a lot of progress on that yet | 16:11 |
| dvhart | Ramana_, tomz1 will be picking that up in the next few weeks I believe | 16:11 |
| Ramana_ | Darren, ok, I am also working on making a common configuration file format. | 16:12 |
| dvhart | Ramana_, please collaborate with tomz1 on that bug | 16:12 |
| Ramana_ | Darren, I have come up with a format and a parser, so wanted to check with you | 16:12 |
| Ramana_ | Darren, OK | 16:13 |
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| Ramana_ | Darren, thanks I will check with tomz1, what is full name of tomz1? | 16:14 |
| dvhart | Ramana_, see the bug owner | 16:14 |
| Ramana_ | Darren, got it thanks | 16:15 |
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| dvhart | Ramana_, thanks for letting us know, great to work together and not duplicate effort | 16:16 |
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| Ramana_ | tomz1, Hi ru there? | 16:18 |
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| otavio | daiane_: :) welcome! | 17:51 |
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| daiane_ | otavio: hi there | 17:58 |
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| wmat | mranostay: hey portlandian | 18:20 |
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| mranostay | _darknighte_: welcome to the jungle | 19:04 |
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| _darknighte_ | mranostay: what's up? | 19:05 |
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| mranostay | darknighte_znc: make up your mind! :P | 19:08 |
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| kergoth | I look forward to bitbake requiring python 2.7 | 22:31 |
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| kergoth | RP: we should think about adding a new event for operation against a finalized config datastore, which bitbake then uses for config, so we can avoid manual finalizing in ConfigParsed handlers for particular cases | 22:45 |
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| kergoth | RP: though, the event would have to carry both finalized and non-finalized datastores with it, since only non-finalized would affect recipes | 22:45 |
| * kergoth ponders | 22:46 | |
| RP | kergoth: that is the dilemma. The finalised store isn't useful to bitbake and could end up confusing users even more since writes to it won't have any affect :/ | 22:48 |
| RP | kergoth: I wish we could move to 2.7 too... | 22:50 |
| kergoth | the finalized store is extremely useful to bitbake. without it, we can't combine overrides with PREFERRED_PROVIDER & the like | 22:56 |
| kergoth | but yeah, confusion is a definite concern | 22:56 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 22:56 | |
| mranostay | hi kergoth | 23:07 |
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