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| bluelightning | morning all | 08:12 |
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| JaMa | bluelightning: morning | 08:23 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: have you seen the request for those 2 path.py backports? | 08:24 |
| rburton | JaMa: i'm reliably informed that mesa patches sent to the bugzilla are likely to be ignored, so send it directly to the list. | 08:25 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: I have yes | 08:25 |
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| bluelightning | JaMa: we've got some pretty urgent issues to deal with in master atm, unfortunately I think that's going to keep me busy for today | 08:27 |
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| rburton | JaMa: you might be interested in my ross/mesa branch on poky-contrib. whoever wins the race to send the patches avoids having to rebase :) | 08:29 |
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| JaMa | rburton: I plan to send them today :) | 08:33 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: ok | 08:33 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #189 of nightly-ppc-lsb is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-ppc-lsb/builds/189 | 09:06 | |
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| conditionzero | hi i updated the recipie for my bind to 9.9.3-p1 and now it throws back an error on the do compile ../../tools/genrandom 100 randomfile/bin/bash: ../../tools/genrandom: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [randomfile] Error 127 | 11:12 |
| conditionzero | what could caus this ? | 11:13 |
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| JaMa | is it possible to combine varflags with override? e.g. PNBLACKLIST_distro[foo] = "foo doesn't work with <distro>"? | 13:53 |
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| bluelightning_ | JaMa: I can't find that we do that anywhere so I suspect not | 14:12 |
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| JaMa | bluelightning: ok, I've wrapped it in anonymous python which compares DISTRO value | 14:53 |
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| bluelightning | JaMa: re 4565 - I have all those packages and still I'm not able to reproduce the failure | 15:15 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: I'm wondering if it's something you can reproduce on your autobuilder with a clean TMPDIR, just doing bitbake -c configure cmake-native ? | 15:16 |
| bluelightning | unless you can think of any other package that might be installed on the host that might trigger it | 15:17 |
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| JaMa | bluelightning: I'm pretty sure that host system wasn't changed lately, so it's trigerred by some change in metadata or order of items being built | 15:21 |
| JaMa | bluelightning: I'll try from clean tmpdir after last world build finishes | 15:21 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: sure, I appreciate it's not a host issue, I just need to reproduce it to try to find the problem | 15:21 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: actually I might be onto something; I notice your machine is x86-64 but the installed Qt packages are i386, maybe that will trigger it | 15:22 |
| JaMa | and because it failed the same for 3 different architectures I guess it's some -native recipe now built before cmake-native (e.g. qt4-native-tools) | 15:22 |
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| bluelightning | annoyingly the machine I have vmware installed on is 32-bit so I can't try it there :/ | 15:25 |
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| kergoth | looks like the libcurl in buildtools-tarball doesn't support https, breaking git ls-remote of many repositories | 15:30 |
| * kergoth digs | 15:30 | |
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| kergoth | also looks like the git wrapper for nativesdk is busted, due to hardcoded paths. those wrappers are only useful with the sysroot substitutions happening | 15:37 |
| * kergoth rolls eyes | 15:38 | |
| * kergoth wonders if buildtools-tarball was ever actually used | 15:38 | |
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| seebs | Gosh, that's a funny coincidence, I think we were just talking with someone at Mentor about buildtools-tarball. | 15:40 |
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| rburton | khem: you're the patchwork man, right? can i have an account please? | 15:44 |
| rburton | khem: i also want to figure out why its not auto-marking merged patches as well as it should, so if you have any thoughts... | 15:45 |
| JaMa | rburton: most common reason is multiple versions of the same patch | 15:46 |
| JaMa | rburton: then it marks only one version as applied | 15:46 |
| rburton | needs a way to mark v1 as obsolete if a v2 arrives | 15:46 |
| JaMa | rburton: unfortunatelly even when v1 is marked as superseded and v2 as "Pending" it marks v1 not v2 | 15:47 |
| rburton | ah | 15:47 |
| rburton | sadface | 15:47 |
| bluelightning | yes, that's just broken logic, shouldn't be too hard to fix | 15:48 |
| bluelightning | kergoth: I've used it here | 15:49 |
| kergoth | hmm, either the env setup script needs to do the equivalent of the sysroot install substitutions on the warppers, or it needs to not use create_wrapper at all | 15:50 |
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| JaMa | rburton: I've talked with khem about it and IIRC the issue is that the script doesn't use some PW API to query state and patches, it just looks for patch with right checksum | 15:53 |
| rburton | ah | 15:53 |
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| bluelightning | JaMa: bingo... you need 64-bit qmake-qt4 installed but 32-bit libraries | 16:14 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: to be honest I'm not sure what the correct course is here... ultimately the host system does appear to be misconfigured | 16:15 |
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| JaMa | bluelightning: any idea why it's showing it only now? | 16:24 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: don't know yet, but I'm testing a possible fix atm | 16:25 |
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| JaMa | bluelightning: last world build finished few minutes ago, let me know if I should test it as-is or wait for that fix | 16:26 |
| bluelightning | JaMa: it's pretty much guaranteed that you'll get the failure now, probably best to wait | 16:26 |
| JaMa | ok | 16:26 |
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| kergoth | Hmm, is there a recipe for the root certificate bundle? | 17:52 |
| JaMa | ca-certificates in meta-oe? | 17:53 |
| JaMa | meta-openembedded/meta-oe/recipes-support/ca-certificates/ca-certificates_20130119.bb | 17:53 |
| kergoth | ah, not sure how i missed that, thanks | 18:02 |
| zecke | JaMa: does it work nowadays? | 18:03 |
| kergoth | trying to fix buildtools-tarball to actually be useful, need ssl and ca certs for libcurl to be useful to git ffor https repositories.. | 18:05 |
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| JaMa | zecke: yes AFAIK, only the tarball needs to be on PREMIRROR | 18:12 |
| JaMa | zecke: it's removed every time new one is published IIRC | 18:13 |
| JaMa | rburton: ping about mesa | 18:13 |
| JaMa | rburton: nobody will need separate PACKAGECONFIG for --enable-xlib-glx, right? | 18:15 |
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| JaMa | rburton: I need to enable it to test 0002-pipe_loader_sw-include-xlib_sw_winsys.h-only-when-HA.patch but mesa.inc doesn't allow to force-enable it with PACKAGECONFIG | 18:15 |
| JaMa | but I guess everybody is happy with DRI-based glx | 18:15 |
| mr_science | adding the PACKAGECONFIG stuff sounds more flexible... | 18:17 |
| mr_science | is there a downside to doing that? | 18:17 |
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| JaMa | mr_science: it's exclusive with other PACKAGECONFIGs like dri | 18:18 |
| JaMa | mr_science: and nobody is probably using it | 18:18 |
| JaMa | we already have many PACKAGECONFIGs in mesa for options which are more usefull | 18:19 |
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| mr_science | i'm still working on integrating the rpi gles/egl stuff with mesa | 18:20 |
| mr_science | sounded like it might be useful... | 18:20 |
| bluelightning_ | kergoth: erm... surely it should be picking up the root certificates from the host? | 18:21 |
| mr_science | mostly because i've already hacked a few PACKAGECONFIG options in my meta-rpi layer i guess... | 18:21 |
| rburton | JaMa: xlib glx is unbelievably useless | 18:22 |
| JaMa | mr_science: what option is missing for you? see http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=jansa/mesa | 18:22 |
| mr_science | keep in mind it may cause me to bug you at some future time... ;) | 18:22 |
| JaMa | rburton: yes, that's why I need it only to test patch not to use it :) | 18:22 |
| rburton | JaMa: surprised that code hasn't disappeared from mesa to be honest | 18:23 |
| mr_science | JaMa: thanks, i just emailed myself that link for later... | 18:24 |
| JaMa | rburton: that's the winsys pipe_loader which is failing without x11 headers :) | 18:25 |
| rburton | huh | 18:25 |
| rburton | my mesa patches got merged \o/ | 18:25 |
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| JaMa | rburton: great, so I guess I'll do the rebase :) | 18:31 |
| rburton | JaMa: i mean merged upstream, still haven't sent for oe-core | 18:31 |
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| JaMa | heh I have finally found combination of flags which actually enables xlib in gallium loader (GALLIUM_PIPE_LOADER_DEFINES = -DHAVE_PIPE_LOADER_SW -DHAVE_PIPE_LOADER_XLIB), but such combination doesnt build | 18:39 |
| JaMa | cc1: some warnings being treated as errors | 18:39 |
| JaMa | make[2]: *** [glapi_dispatch.lo] Error 1 | 18:39 |
| JaMa | so it's true, nobody is using xlib in gallium loader :) | 18:39 |
| eren | hey there | 18:42 |
| JaMa | rburton: "build: fix EGL build when no X11 headers are present" isn't what we're using in oe-core now :/ "EGL: Mutate NativeDisplayType depending on config" is IMHO better implementation | 18:53 |
| JaMa | rburton: because it doesn't force you to add -DMESA_EGL_NO_X11_HEADERS in CFLAGS when building something else then mesa but still without x11 headers | 18:54 |
| rburton | JaMa: it throws the flags into egl.pc too | 18:57 |
| JaMa | and the if is already there from b3f1f665b | 18:57 |
| JaMa | if echo "$egl_platforms" | grep 'x11' >/dev/null 2>&1; then | 18:57 |
| JaMa | AM_CONDITIONAL(HAVE_EGL_PLATFORM_X11, echo "$egl_platforms" | grep 'x11' >/dev/null 2>&1) | 18:57 |
| JaMa | if ! echo "$egl_platforms" | grep -q 'x11'; then | 18:58 |
| eren | what's your usual setup for testing the packages? I guess QEMU is the solution | 18:59 |
| eren | however, what I need is the ability to use serial ports and stuff | 18:59 |
| eren | does QEMU support it? | 18:59 |
| eren | I mean, can the emulated image use the serial port on the real hw | 18:59 |
| kergoth | hrm | 19:00 |
| eren | otherwise, I have beagleboard. I will have to produce image for beagleboard, dd it to mmc, boot it up, try it, get an error, rebuild ... | 19:01 |
| eren | :) | 19:01 |
| Daemon404 | why dont you netboot? | 19:04 |
| Daemon404 | saves so much testing time | 19:04 |
| Daemon404 | nfs share with the rootfs or something | 19:04 |
| eren | hm | 19:04 |
| Daemon404 | tftp etc | 19:04 |
| Daemon404 | granted... it's a royal pain in the ass to set up :D | 19:05 |
| Daemon404 | i know teh pandabard could boostrap/boot off of a usb-to-miniusb cable between a comp and the board | 19:05 |
| Daemon404 | does the beagleboard have such a feature? | 19:05 |
| eren | need to check | 19:05 |
| Daemon404 | just thinking out loud here. | 19:06 |
| eren | I guess u-boot has tftp feature | 19:07 |
| eren | let's assume that it has tftp boot | 19:07 |
| eren | when we are done with building, we can extract the rootfs to somewhere permanent | 19:07 |
| Daemon404 | oh | 19:07 |
| Daemon404 | it does | 19:07 |
| eren | I mean, in OE build tree | 19:07 |
| Daemon404 | ive used u-boot with tftp before | 19:08 |
| eren | then it does :) | 19:08 |
| eren | so, we extract the rootfs somewhere | 19:08 |
| eren | copy the uImage | 19:08 |
| eren | enable dhcp and tftp setup | 19:08 |
| Daemon404 | you an send the uImage over LAN | 19:08 |
| Daemon404 | insid uboot | 19:08 |
| Daemon404 | iirc | 19:08 |
| eren | hm | 19:08 |
| eren | ok, I will look at it | 19:09 |
| Daemon404 | and then point it at a nfs share | 19:09 |
| Daemon404 | take everything with a grain of salt | 19:09 |
| Daemon404 | i havent done this in 2 years | 19:09 |
| * Daemon404 usually doesnt even look at this channel anymore... just happened to look today because he bought seebs' book | 19:10 | |
| seebs | Hey, cool! | 19:11 |
| seebs | Hope you like it. I actually still use it as a reference sometimes. | 19:11 |
| Daemon404 | im hoping to use it as a reference | 19:11 |
| eren | ah, which book is it? | 19:11 |
| Daemon404 | i periodically forget certain pitfalls | 19:11 |
| Daemon404 | and bsd explodes. | 19:11 |
| seebs | http://www.amazon.com/dp/1430210435 | 19:11 |
| seebs | So, long story short: The book was written without anyone in the writing or editing part of it being aware that someone planned to attach "Beginning" to the name. | 19:12 |
| * mr_science thought bsd was designed not to explode... | 19:12 | |
| eren | seebs: oh nice! :) | 19:12 |
| seebs | The technical reviewer was Gary Vaughan from autoconf land. | 19:12 |
| Daemon404 | mr_science, bashisms make bsd explode | 19:12 |
| Daemon404 | so do GNU extensions to sed | 19:12 |
| Daemon404 | and such. | 19:12 |
| seebs | And *both* of us learned a fair bit about shell portability in the process of working on it. | 19:12 |
| eren | seebs: do you explain why there are lots of if [ x$foo = "xbar" ] strings? | 19:12 |
| eren | what is x here? :P | 19:12 |
| seebs | Ahh, yeah. | 19:13 |
| seebs | foo=-lt | 19:13 |
| seebs | [ -lt = bar ] | 19:13 |
| mr_science | been a few years since i played with bsd... | 19:13 |
| seebs | Some very old test will explode in fire because they got an operator (-lt) without an operand. | 19:13 |
| Daemon404 | maybe you can help me with a stupid problem: | 19:13 |
| Daemon404 | ive been passing regex around as strings in shel scripts | 19:13 |
| Daemon404 | and they accidentally expand to lists of filenames | 19:14 |
| Daemon404 | Bad Thins Happen | 19:14 |
| * mr_science remembers the "lp0 error: printer on fire?" message | 19:14 | |
| Daemon404 | i cant find a non-ugly solution to this | 19:14 |
| seebs | Long story short, regex-like things should pretty much always be in "" so they aren't globbed. | 19:15 |
| seebs | Except in cases where globbing won't happen, but you can nearly always quote them there too. | 19:16 |
| Daemon404 | i see | 19:16 |
| Daemon404 | well i have a strange case | 19:16 |
| Daemon404 | something like | 19:16 |
| Daemon404 | THING="regex1*;regex2*" | 19:16 |
| Daemon404 | IFS=';' | 19:16 |
| mr_science | quoting variables/strings/paths is usually a good thing... | 19:16 |
| Daemon404 | for exp in ${THING}; do... | 19:16 |
| seebs | ohhh | 19:16 |
| seebs | I would probably not use IFS splitting on things which might be globbish. | 19:17 |
| Daemon404 | well i figured as much | 19:17 |
| Daemon404 | im unsure if a 'better' way | 19:18 |
| Daemon404 | s/if/of/ | 19:18 |
| seebs | while [ "$THING" ]; do exp=${THING%%;*} THING=${THING#*}; use-exp; done | 19:18 |
| * eren thinks it's ugly | 19:18 | |
| eren | python is new bash | 19:18 |
| eren | let the flame begin | 19:19 |
| eren | :P | 19:19 |
| Daemon404 | right | 19:19 |
| Daemon404 | so use expansion | 19:19 |
| Daemon404 | 'ugly' but less error prone | 19:19 |
| Daemon404 | i suppose. | 19:19 |
| seebs | I am so not a Python fan. | 19:19 |
| seebs | It has just never really clicked for me. I like Lua and Ruby, but not Python and Tcl. | 19:19 |
| * mr_science enjoys bash and python | 19:20 | |
| mr_science | mostly... | 19:20 |
| Daemon404 | seebs, no perl? | 19:21 |
| Daemon404 | i am in fact porting this regex thing /from/ perl | 19:21 |
| Daemon404 | \fun/ | 19:21 |
| seebs | perl is sort of in the middle of my language pool. I don't really like it, I don't really hate it. | 19:21 |
| eren | I never dared to learn perl | 19:22 |
| eren | and I am still amazed how bugzilla is maintained | 19:22 |
| eren | it's pure perl, oh | 19:22 |
| seebs | My perl is pretty shoddy these days, I learned some very early perl5 and sort of vaguely know about bless and such, but.. only vaguely. | 19:22 |
| mr_science | actually, of all the compiled languages i still enjoy Ada... | 19:23 |
| Daemon404 | i sometimes miss the hardcore unix world wind river | 19:23 |
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| Daemon404 | there;s so much hippy dippy hipster coding around me now | 19:24 |
| Daemon404 | nodejs and pals | 19:24 |
| mr_science | except foe the build overhead, i'm finally starting to like c++ a little better now... | 19:24 |
| joshc | IFS splitting can be used for globbish things (in bash): IFS=';' read -ra foo <<< "r1*;r2*"; for exp in "${foo[@]}"; do ...; done | 19:24 |
| seebs | Ahh, right. | 19:24 |
| eren | Daemon404: node.js, mongodb, textmate, macos, awesome \m/ | 19:24 |
| Daemon404 | i wouldnt be buying seebs' book if i wanted to write bash | 19:24 |
| Daemon404 | now would i ;) | 19:24 |
| seebs | I think you can do that with << too, probably. | 19:24 |
| seebs | Although now I don't remember. Hmm. | 19:25 |
| Daemon404 | eren, i one of three peope who runs linux at my place of work | 19:25 |
| Daemon404 | maybe 4 | 19:25 |
| Daemon404 | rest run mac os x | 19:25 |
| mr_science | not played with mongo, but i do like redis now | 19:25 |
| Daemon404 | theyre not really useful for the same reasons. | 19:26 |
| seebs | OS X has bash these days too, I think. I mean, not just around, but I think /bin/sh might be now. | 19:26 |
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| Daemon404 | i am not a fan of dong development work on os | 19:26 |
| Daemon404 | os x* | 19:26 |
| Daemon404 | that is deployed to linux | 19:26 |
| Daemon404 | just asking for trouble. | 19:27 |
| mr_science | Daemon404: other than they're both in the "noSQL" camp... | 19:27 |
| eren | well, I use OS X right now | 19:27 |
| eren | full screen tmux, zsh, weechat | 19:27 |
| eren | not different from my linux installation | 19:27 |
| Daemon404 | so youre telling me this load balancer works different on a different kernel? | 19:27 |
| Daemon404 | well. you dont say. | 19:27 |
| eren | I use OS X as some kind of a BSD distribution that has nice GUI | 19:27 |
| seebs | Huh. If you don't need to be able to use the values in the same shell, echo "$foo" | tr ';' '\012' | while read i ... | 19:27 |
| Daemon404 | its gui is primarily why i do not use os x | 19:28 |
| Daemon404 | it constantly gets in my way | 19:28 |
| Daemon404 | also its subpixel smoothing is horrible | 19:28 |
| eren | oh | 19:28 |
| eren | I don't think so | 19:28 |
| eren | I really love OS X font rendering | 19:28 |
| Daemon404 | i despise it | 19:29 |
| Daemon404 | anyway, thanks for the suggestion seebs | 19:30 |
| mr_science | pretty much all my apple hardware is ppc, so it mostly runs gentoo... | 19:30 |
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| Daemon404 | my mac mini is running windows 8 for a build/coverage instance for 4 different windows compilers for ffmpeg/libav | 19:31 |
| Daemon404 | ultimate heretic | 19:31 |
| mr_science | i'm surprised you haven't been tracked down and arrested... | 19:32 |
| Daemon404 | im committed worse sins... | 19:32 |
| Daemon404 | i've, even. | 19:32 |
| mr_science | nobody said said anything about sin | 19:33 |
| mr_science | just because you get arrested doesn't mean you actually did anything wrong... | 19:33 |
| Daemon404 | fair enough. | 19:34 |
| Daemon404 | try this on then: | 19:34 |
| Daemon404 | step 1) helped write and tests a c99-to-c89 converter to support MSVC for libav/ffmpeg | 19:34 |
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| Daemon404 | step 2) run into a filesystem filter bug and get a friend to file na internal bug report | 19:35 |
| Daemon404 | step 3) ms announces MSVC gets c99 support with a giant ffmpeg logo at their latest conference | 19:35 |
| Daemon404 | im pretty proud of that one | 19:35 |
| mr_science | not sure about the cause and effect chain there... | 19:36 |
| mr_science | the answer to your bug was a new release? | 19:36 |
| Daemon404 | oh the bug with with MSE | 19:36 |
| Daemon404 | but it brough the c99-to-c89 converter to their attention | 19:36 |
| Daemon404 | compiler team wasnt so thrilled, as i hear. | 19:36 |
| mr_science | ah... | 19:37 |
| mr_science | maybe the compiler team should get off their collective asses | 19:37 |
| mr_science | just sayin'... | 19:37 |
| Daemon404 | their c++ support is rather good | 19:37 |
| Daemon404 | nobody uses c99 except foss pretty much | 19:38 |
| Daemon404 | hence ms didnt care | 19:38 |
| mr_science | why wasn't gcc the answer for you in this case? | 19:39 |
| Daemon404 | because fuck gdb | 19:39 |
| Daemon404 | msvc's debugger is actually /nice/ | 19:39 |
| Daemon404 | i hate gdb with the passion of a thousand suns | 19:39 |
| Daemon404 | after years of using it | 19:39 |
| mr_science | considering it's windows, wouldn't it have to be? | 19:40 |
| Daemon404 | what do you mean? | 19:40 |
| Daemon404 | (side note: ffmpeg has supported mingw's gcc for aeons) | 19:40 |
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| mr_science | Daemon404: i was just referring to MSVC on windows needing a very good debugger... | 20:03 |
| Daemon404 | 0/10 poor troll | 20:03 |
| mr_science | okay, i'll buy that... | 20:03 |
| Daemon404 | speaking of windows | 20:04 |
| Daemon404 | i was pondering the other day if its possible for glibc to pull something like MS's c runtime does | 20:04 |
| Daemon404 | filling free'd memory with a specfic constant | 20:04 |
| Daemon404 | instead of maybe working and maybe not | 20:04 |
| Daemon404 | if you try and access it | 20:04 |
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| mr_science | been a long time since i had to troubleshoot memory errors on a windows box | 20:15 |
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| eren | I haven't touched a windows box since ages | 20:16 |
| eren | let alone, programming on windows | 20:16 |
| eren | nah.. | 20:16 |
| mr_science | technically i have to touch one at work for certain things, but me too, more or less | 20:16 |
| eren | I heard that they have an internal API call with 23 parameters :P | 20:17 |
| mr_science | gave up on windows at home when my kids were just little tikes | 20:17 |
| mr_science | they all grew up on gentoo | 20:17 |
| eren | nice! | 20:17 |
| eren | mr_science: are they having hard times using windows? | 20:18 |
| mr_science | well, my daughter had to have macbook when she left for school | 20:18 |
| mr_science | made her pay for half of it tho | 20:18 |
| Daemon404 | im probably the youngest person in this channel | 20:18 |
| * Daemon404 runs | 20:18 | |
| eren | Daemon404: your age? | 20:19 |
| mr_science | my first answer was something like "What?!? i can buy 5 laptops for that price!!" | 20:19 |
| Daemon404 | 2 | 20:19 |
| Daemon404 | er | 20:19 |
| Daemon404 | 23 | 20:19 |
| eren | you lost it | 20:19 |
| eren | I'm 22 | 20:19 |
| Daemon404 | well then. | 20:20 |
| eren | mr_science: well, that's ok but MBP Retinas are quote appealing | 20:20 |
| eren | quite* | 20:20 |
| mr_science | eren: they mostly used openoffice at school but never had any MS office trouble AFAIK | 20:21 |
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| mr_science | that resolution is wasted on tablet-size dsiplays... | 20:22 |
| mr_science | maybe on bigger ones it's more noticeable | 20:22 |
| Daemon404 | clearly we should all stay at 90 PPI for eternity | 20:23 |
| Daemon404 | as has been the case. | 20:23 |
| mr_science | it's more or less a function of display size and viewing distance | 20:24 |
| mr_science | the normal viewing distance for a 10" (or smaller) display doesn't lend itself to super-high res | 20:25 |
| mr_science | if your eyes can't see it, why drive the extra pixels? | 20:25 |
| Daemon404 | in general i am quite close to my laptop screen | 20:26 |
| Daemon404 | its pretty noticeable. | 20:26 |
| Daemon404 | especially WRT font rendering | 20:26 |
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| mr_science | as i sit about two feet from a smallish 1080p laptop display | 20:26 |
| mr_science | well, proper font rendering is about a lot more than just resolution... | 20:27 |
| eren | that's why I love OSX | 20:27 |
| eren | <3 subpixel rendering | 20:27 |
| Daemon404 | os x's is by far the worst | 20:27 |
| Daemon404 | it makes some sites (slashdot e.g.) unreadable | 20:28 |
| eren | + Macbook's LCD is far greater than normal LCDs | 20:28 |
| Daemon404 | it's worse than stock debian fontconfig/freetype configs | 20:28 |
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| Daemon404 | i wish i had kept those images i snapped... | 20:28 |
| eren | Daemon404: http://picpaste.com/Screen_Shot_2013-07-01_at_10.28.18_PM-zmaMb78j.png | 20:29 |
| Daemon404 | not to mention if you use a non-aaple monitor on a mac mini, it disables a bunch of font renderig stuff | 20:29 |
| eren | it looks good to me | 20:29 |
| Daemon404 | the titles look pretty terrible to me | 20:30 |
| Daemon404 | too bold, jagged edges. | 20:30 |
| eren | too bold? | 20:30 |
| Daemon404 | apple's subpixel rendering does not respect the fact that monitors are pixel-based | 20:31 |
| Daemon404 | it ends up lookign bold/smooth/ugly | 20:31 |
| eren | on non-apple monitor, yes | 20:31 |
| eren | when you are in Apple world, you should not leave it :P | 20:31 |
| eren | I use AOC 23" monitor with macbook air | 20:31 |
| eren | it's good so far | 20:31 |
| Daemon404 | apples monitors are crap for DSP or image relatd work | 20:31 |
| Daemon404 | glossy is terrible | 20:32 |
| Daemon404 | and they dont offer matet any more | 20:32 |
| Daemon404 | matte* | 20:32 |
| eren | ah yeah | 20:32 |
| Daemon404 | (i work in DSP/image stuff) | 20:32 |
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| * mr_science is listening to his freshly released PiMP3 yocto build | 20:33 | |
| Daemon404 | also tryin to remember if theyre 8bit or some crap 6bit dithered thing | 20:33 |
| Daemon404 | i think theyre at least not TNs | 20:33 |
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| seebs | I think you can still get non-Retina MBPs in antiglare as a special option. But yeah. | 20:40 |
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| Lahar | Hi! I am looking for some basic knowledge on rootfs and elf files? Can somebody please help telling me where can I find some information on it? | 20:48 |
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| mranostay | google! | 20:52 |
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| Lahar | mranostay: already tried google...didn't help me much....that's why I am here....I understand the definition of rootfs and I understand fsl-image-minimal and fsl-image-full etc are rootfs images....but why do we call them rootfs? Are they linux images? | 20:59 |
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| rtollert | Does anybody have experience building a mingw SDK? I tried setting SDK_ARCH="i586", SDK_OS="mingw32", SDK_EXEEXT=".exe", and it starts off on the right track, but gcc-crosssdk-initial eventually fails because we're not creating gcc-4.7.2/winsup/ prior to `configure` | 21:19 |
| rtollert | (and more specifically failing due to a lack of finding windows.h) | 21:19 |
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| mulhern | How can you ensure that a process is running as a daemon after a build machine has booted…supposing you know the proper command line arguments to start that process as a daemon? | 23:09 |
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| sgw1 | mulhern: a ps with a grep, I think the sanity tests do something similar to check for connman | 23:23 |
| sgw1 | mulhern: scripts/qemuimage-tests/tools/connman_test.sh | 23:24 |
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