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| Stygia | (xpost from #oe) Hello. I am having a little issue with bitbake. I have created a number of recipes, and now my system images depends on some of them. However, in spite of a certain package installing and compiling (in bitbake) without error, it does not seem to be made part of the final installation. During install it reports that Files/directories were installed but not shipped. I am using a Build script that came with this software, and it | 08:39 |
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| Stygia | installs into D. What should I look at next? | 08:39 |
| zibri | stygia: take a look at the FILES bitbake variable | 08:42 |
| Stygia | zibri, Hmm. So I should list all files it installs in this variable? | 08:43 |
| Stygia | zibri, The poky handbook seems to not provide much more information about it. | 08:44 |
| zibri | stygia: bitbake.conf comes with some default patterns, like /usr/bin/*, but if your package installs to other, more unusual places, you have to list them. E.g. FILES_${PN} = "/opt/foo/*" | 08:46 |
| zibri | stygia: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-FILES | 08:47 |
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| Stygia | zibri, Thank you. It's hard to find good documentation for bb imho. | 08:51 |
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| Stygia | zibri, Hmm. I have FILES_${PN} += "${libdir}/perl5" in my script, and yet, /lib/perl5 and several sublocations are shown as "installed but not shipped". Any suggestions? | 08:59 |
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| zibri | stygia: ${libdir} is /usr/lib, not /lib. | 09:03 |
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| Stygia | zibri, Oh. What is /lib, then? | 09:08 |
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| ndec | Stygia: /lib -> {base_libdir} | 09:11 |
| ndec | most defines are in meta/conf/bitbake.conf | 09:11 |
| Stygia | ndec, Ah awesome, duly noted. Was looking at the online documentation which is kinda lacking. I'll look there next time. | 09:11 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 09:17 |
| bluelightning | probably about time we had those in the manual I guess | 09:17 |
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| Krz | Hi guys, I'm using a custom rootfs recipe based on conf/distro/poky.conf. I need few apps like: bluez4, rfkill, hostapd, whole wireless-tools suite. I know I can specify all of them in IMAGE_INSTALL variable. But isn't is more Yocto'ier way to put something like 'wifi' to DISTRO_FEATURES ? | 09:45 |
| bluelightning | Krz: if you include packagegroup-base in your image you will get something like that | 09:50 |
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| Krz | bluelighting: isn't packagegroup-base included by default in poky.conf? | 10:05 |
| bluelightning | Krz: if your image inherits core-image and does not set IMAGE_INSTALL (but may add/append to it after the "inherit core-image") | 10:09 |
| bluelightning | then it will include packagegroup-base yes | 10:09 |
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| Krz | bluelightning: ok I do set IMAGE_INSTALL in my rootfs recipe as: IMAGE_INSTALL = "packagegroup-core-boot ${ROOTFS_PKGMANAGE_BOOTSTRAP} ${CORE_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL}" | 10:10 |
| bluelightning | Krz: right, in which case you won't have it | 10:11 |
| bluelightning | Krz: you can just add it to the end | 10:11 |
| Krz | is there any list of what contents package-group base gives? | 10:11 |
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| bluelightning | Krz: only in the file itself: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-base.bb?h=dylan | 10:13 |
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| Krz | bluelightning: so I need to add packagegroup-base to IMAGE_INSTALL. What about MACHINE_FEATURES ? So far my MACHINE_FEATURES = "efi". Don't I have add there 'bluetooth' and 'wifi' ? | 10:18 |
| bluelightning | Krz: if the platform has those features built-in, yes you should add those | 10:20 |
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| Krz | bluelightning: the platform does not have these features built-in. There are USB/PCIe ports where people can attach these kind of devices, so I just want to enable this kind of usage. | 10:30 |
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| bluelightning | Krz: ah ok... if you look at packagegroup-base you'll see it does have functionality to enable those features if the machine has usb/pci in MACHINE_FEATURES | 10:34 |
| bluelightning | Krz: so you should probably just add "usb" and "pci" to MACHINE_FEATURES | 10:34 |
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| lpapp | hi, getting this error when trying to use yocto: http://paste.kde.org/~lpapp/789782/ | 10:39 |
| lpapp | archlinux... I already reverted to python 2. | 10:39 |
| lpapp | this error message is there at the end, too: http://paste.kde.org/~lpapp/789788/ | 10:40 |
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| lpapp | the second issue is probably easy to be fixed. | 10:40 |
| lpapp | WARNING: Host distribution could not be determined; you may possibly experience unexpected failures. It is recommended that you use a tested distribution. | 10:42 |
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| lpapp | fixed the first issue, but getting new ones | 10:44 |
| Net147 | lpapp: I have been using Arch Linux for Yocto successfully. do you have lsb-release package installed? | 10:44 |
| bluelightning | lsb-release shouldn't be required | 10:44 |
| lpapp | Net147: no, I will. | 10:44 |
| lpapp | bluelightning: I think he just means, the warning can be eliminated that way. | 10:45 |
| bluelightning | I don't think it can | 10:45 |
| lpapp | WARNING: Host distribution ""Arch Linux"" has not been validated with this version of the build system; you may possibly experience unexpected failures. It is recommended that you use a tested distribution. | 10:45 |
| lpapp | it is at least more to the point now. :) | 10:45 |
| bluelightning | you can remove the "untested distro" warning by setting SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS = "" in your local.conf | 10:45 |
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| lpapp | ERROR: Function failed: do_compile (see /home/lpapp/Projects/polatis/Yocto/poky-denzil-7.0.1/polatis-builds/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/m4-native-1.4.16-r2/temp/log.do_compile.11365 for further information) | 10:45 |
| lpapp | ERROR: Logfile of failure stored in: /home/lpapp/Projects/polatis/Yocto/poky-denzil-7.0.1/polatis-builds/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/m4-native-1.4.16-r2/temp/log.do_compile.11365 | 10:45 |
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| Net147 | lpapp: you will probably have better luck with master branch of poky repository | 10:46 |
| Net147 | lpapp: I did many fixes for building on Arch there | 10:47 |
| lpapp | Net147: we do not use the master branch as we have a product on it ... | 10:47 |
| lpapp | and it is not just a matter of hobby updating to the bleeding edge. | 10:47 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: then I'd suggest not using Arch in that case | 10:47 |
| Net147 | lpapp: ok. I recommend you use an official supported distro in that case | 10:47 |
| lpapp | or fix stuff my self. | 10:47 |
| lpapp | which looks more reasonable IMHO. | 10:48 |
| Net147 | lpapp: you can look in the poky master for additional patches you might need | 10:48 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: it's entirely up to you of course, but if you're talking about ensuring stability for a commercial product you'd be better off with a stable host distro... | 10:48 |
| lpapp | bluelightning: how can you say that when you do not even understand the impact? | 10:49 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: on the one hand you're saying you need to be using an older version of our build system for your product, I accept that and we definitely support that | 10:50 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: but then you're trying to use it on one of the most bleeding edge distros that exists | 10:50 |
| bluelightning | those two things do not really match up | 10:51 |
| lpapp | bluelightning: how can you say that when you do not even understand the impact? | 10:51 |
| bluelightning | impact of what? | 10:51 |
| lpapp | the issues on arch? | 10:51 |
| bluelightning | the issues on arch are due to newer host tools and libraries | 10:52 |
| lpapp | again, how do you know the impact for *sure*? | 10:52 |
| lpapp | have you tried? Can you enumerate them? How can you tell me it is less work to complicate the system with two distribution? | 10:52 |
| lpapp | mind elaborating? | 10:52 |
| bluelightning | I can tell you I know things work fine on more stable distributions because I use the system daily on those distributions without issue... | 10:53 |
| lpapp | so what ? | 10:53 |
| lpapp | that does not tell me at all which is less work to go for ... | 10:54 |
| lpapp | so it is extremely brave to tell it is better to drop a corporate environment instantly and start setting up things from scratch. | 10:54 |
| bluelightning | I would think it's fairly clear, if you want less work, follow the tested path that others have already followed | 10:54 |
| lpapp | fairly clear based on *what*? | 10:55 |
| lpapp | your imagination without knowing whether it is a two minutes fix, or less than an hour etc? | 10:55 |
| bluelightning | based on others experience and our QA testing | 10:55 |
| lpapp | 11:51 < lpapp> have you tried? Can you enumerate them? How can you tell me it is less work to complicate the system with two distribution? | 10:55 |
| lpapp | 11:51 < lpapp> mind elaborating? | 10:55 |
| rburton | lpapp: the simple fact is that if you're running a bleeding-edge distribution, you'll hit problems like a new host gcc breaking the build of the cross-compiler first | 10:55 |
| lpapp | could you please enumerate the issues on arch? | 10:55 |
| bluelightning | have I tried running builds regularly on Arch? no I have not | 10:55 |
| lpapp | and why it is complex to fix them? | 10:55 |
| lpapp | rburton: how do you *really* know? | 10:56 |
| lpapp | how is this a "simple fact"? | 10:56 |
| rburton | lpapp: because every new gcc release breaks something? because gnu make 3.82 *still* isn't fixed unless you grab patches from upstream? | 10:56 |
| lpapp | "because every new gcc release breaks something?" -> you live in a different world than me , then. | 10:57 |
| Net147 | rburton: lpapp: Arch has integrated the fixes required for make recently | 10:57 |
| rburton | this isn't something to debate. if you consider that an acceptable compromise to running your distro of choice, then sure. | 10:57 |
| lpapp | rburton: you are totally wrong. | 10:57 |
| rburton | Net147: i'm not saying it hasn't, i'm just saying thats an example of something that breaks if you run a bleeding distro. | 10:57 |
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| lpapp | "is not fixed" -> is fixed. | 10:58 |
| rburton | i wasn't talking about arch, i was talking about make | 10:58 |
| rburton | there is not a make 3.83. that is a fact. | 10:58 |
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| bluelightning | lpapp: if you want to run the system on Arch, then more power to you | 10:59 |
| rburton | my point was a bleeding distro will do something like integrate make 3.82 and then you've got the fallout of that to handle. as i said, if that's a trade-off you want to make, sure. | 10:59 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: but to be crystal clear, whilst we are happy to take patches for support on Arch, and have done so regularly, we officially do not support that distro and we especially do not support latest Arch with older versions of the build system | 10:59 |
| lpapp | rburton: we *were* talking about Arch. | 10:59 |
| rburton | lpapp: sure, and i was generalising | 10:59 |
| lpapp | so if you do not, it is kinda off-topic for a heavily arch based discussion. :) | 10:59 |
| rburton | i run debian unstable on my machines so also get the fun of discovering breakage, but that's kinda my job | 11:00 |
| lpapp | guys, please try to accept that, setting up a brand new distribution from scratch, and get used to a different workflow is not a 2 miuntes job. | 11:00 |
| lpapp | minutes* | 11:00 |
| rburton | lpapp: nobody said it was | 11:01 |
| lpapp | besides, it is also more useful for the world if yocto is tested on arch by other users as well. | 11:01 |
| lpapp | in my book, that is. | 11:01 |
| rburton | sure | 11:01 |
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| bluelightning | lpapp: but backporting patches for support for versions of tools in the latest version of Arch (which we do seem to have) to an older branch will not be a 2 minute job either | 11:01 |
| rburton | the caveat is that stable releases of yocto are not constantly tested on arch, so you may discover breakage. as i said, it's a tradeoff. | 11:02 |
| lpapp | besides, arch is a really a very common distribution | 11:02 |
| rburton | sure | 11:02 |
| lpapp | almost the same amount of users on irc than in #ubuntu | 11:03 |
| lpapp | bluelightning: it is not even sure I need to backport any patches. | 11:04 |
| Net147 | lpapp: in my experience with Yocto on Arch, problems have been related to Python 3 being default, GCC 4.8, gets being removed from glibc, pod2man failing to build some docs with newer pod2man included with Perl 5.18, some texi documentation failing to build. that's with poky master branch, for denzil there are probably some more things that need to be patched | 11:04 |
| lpapp | bluelightning: what if I experience different issues? | 11:04 |
| rburton | nobody's hating on arch specifically, just pointing out the tradeoffs between stable and unstable host distros | 11:04 |
| lpapp | bluelightning: you seem to claim things without investigation. | 11:04 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: no, I go by reports and patches from folks such as Net147 who are building on top of Arch | 11:05 |
| lpapp | so others cannot experience other issues? | 11:05 |
| lpapp | all I am saying, it needs investigation | 11:06 |
| lpapp | it is really hard to tell IMO in advance which is more effort to go for. | 11:06 |
| lpapp | Net147: thank you for the information. :-) | 11:06 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: sure, and you're more than welcome to continue to report issues here | 11:07 |
| lpapp | python 3 is not fixed in master though. :-) | 11:07 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: as long as you are aware that our limited resources may not allow everyone to investigate those issues if they are host-related | 11:07 |
| lpapp | so that is not yet a reason to change distro. | 11:07 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: python 3 support is a work in progress | 11:07 |
| Net147 | lpapp: for documentation fixes I had to do, refer to http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=8144e16097fae49288d763d05476c892c46136c3 and http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=ea886ed79d7f10d2f8392398e65138f5da04a892 | 11:07 |
| lpapp | first issue: http://paste.kde.org/~lpapp/789824/ | 11:09 |
| lpapp | bluelightning: yes, so not yet fixed. :) | 11:09 |
| lpapp | and even if it was, it is simple enough on arch to fall back to python 2. | 11:09 |
| lpapp | Net147: cannot the doc be optional? | 11:09 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: sure, but it's not really a bug fix situation, porting a codebase such as ours to python 3 is difficult; and as you say there is a workaround available | 11:10 |
| lpapp | it is not something I would desperately need on the embedded board ... | 11:10 |
| Net147 | lpapp: I was building docs for my dev image. it may not be needed in your case | 11:10 |
| lpapp | https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/12005 -> this is a change in the openwrt project. | 11:11 |
| lpapp | re: my kde paste above. | 11:11 |
| lpapp | Net147: ok, thank you for the information. I am happy to exclude the docs. | 11:11 |
| lpapp | in fact, we should probably do that on the embedded board if it is not yet done. | 11:11 |
| Net147 | lpapp: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/meta/recipes-devtools/m4/?id=19875a0f71b79bc3f3bb85c925ad103e6fe30641 | 11:11 |
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| lpapp | Net147: thanks, so I need to learn how to patch stuff locally. | 11:13 |
| lpapp | I guess my ubuntu based colleagues would not mind arch fixes in our repo. | 11:13 |
| lpapp | Net147: do I understand correctly you had python 3 and documentation issues, nothing else? | 11:15 |
| lpapp | and gcc 4.8 | 11:16 |
| lpapp | and this glibc. | 11:16 |
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| Net147 | lpapp: yes, but I was working with master branch not denzil | 11:17 |
| lpapp | well, the glibc should not be a problem in master. | 11:17 |
| Net147 | lpapp: yes it was already fixed when I began working with Yocto this year again | 11:18 |
| Net147 | lpapp: but I remember the gets issue from last year I think | 11:18 |
| Net147 | lpapp: as for GCC 4.8, there was a problem building GCC 4.7 using it so I had to install an older GCC on Arch and prepend it to PATH | 11:19 |
| lpapp | interesting. | 11:20 |
| Net147 | lpapp: I installed GCC 4.6.x from AUR to work around it | 11:20 |
| lpapp | how seamless is it to upgrade poky btw? | 11:20 |
| Net147 | lpapp: and created symbolic links for gcc, ld, etc. | 11:20 |
| lpapp | gah | 11:20 |
| lpapp | you had fun there... ;-) | 11:20 |
| rburton | ah yeah, 4.8 can't build 4.7. good work gcc team. | 11:21 |
| Net147 | lpapp: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/meta/recipes-devtools/gcc?id=3681c89432b5fb705fe593e75c2d98f7d15a5184 | 11:22 |
| Net147 | lpapp: that should allow you to build GCC 4.7 | 11:22 |
| lpapp | yeah | 11:22 |
| lpapp | is there a guide somewhere how to create patches for poky locally? | 11:23 |
| lpapp | is there any poky specific to it? | 11:23 |
| Net147 | lpapp: you want to add patch without modifying poky? | 11:23 |
| Net147 | lpapp: you generally create a bbappend in your layer directory | 11:23 |
| lpapp | yeah, local patches just like when you do distro packaging. | 11:24 |
| lpapp | and update/remove those when a new "package" update happens. | 11:24 |
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| Net147 | lpapp: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.4/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#using-bbappend-files | 11:26 |
| lpapp | Net147: I see... so everything \*.bbappend in our repository is probably our local patches, right, not coming from the Yocto project? | 11:27 |
| Net147 | lpapp: Yocto project core recipes are in meta directory, you usually have meta-mylayer or something with your own recipes and bbappends | 11:28 |
| Net147 | lpapp: and this meta-mylayer is listed in build/conf/layers.conf | 11:28 |
| Net147 | lpapp: * conf/bblayers.conf | 11:29 |
| lpapp | Net147: have these, find ./ -name \*.bbappend | curlpaste | 11:29 |
| lpapp | http://codepad.org/q6A5lWih | 11:29 |
| lpapp | I am just wondering if my team had already made local changes, and I am not introducing anything new with arch fixes. | 11:29 |
| lpapp | Net147: http://paste.kde.org/~lpapp/789836/ | 11:30 |
| Net147 | lpapp: meta-yocto looks like http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta-yocto?h=denzil to me | 11:32 |
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| lpapp | ok, so probably not. | 11:32 |
| lpapp | that is bad because it means then, I introduce a new concept. :) | 11:33 |
| lpapp | probably harder to sell. | 11:33 |
| rburton | where is your stuff then? in meta directly? | 11:34 |
| Net147 | lpapp: any other meta-* folders? | 11:35 |
| lpapp | Net147: no clue | 11:35 |
| Net147 | lpapp: ls poky-denzil-7.0.1/ | 11:36 |
| lpapp | Net147: sorry, but I cannot share company details. | 11:36 |
| lpapp | and I have no clue which are the default. | 11:36 |
| rburton | if your stuff is in meta/ then i recommend you put it in your own layer so you can upgrade poky later | 11:36 |
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| ndec | lpapp: while i understand why you could be interested to keep Arch on your host, i think there are various methods that are very resaonable like building in a chroot, or VM, see http://bec-systems.com/site/1029/os-containers-for-build-systems. | 11:36 |
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| Net147 | lpapp: poky-denzil-7.0.1 contains any other meta-* folders besides meta and meta-yocto? | 11:37 |
| lpapp | I assume meta-demoapps was coming with denzil. | 11:37 |
| lpapp | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/?h=denzil -> yes, it was. | 11:38 |
| lpapp | so we do not have any additional meta folder. | 11:38 |
| lpapp | ndec: thanks, but I am aware of chroot, and VM | 11:38 |
| lpapp | that was not the question. | 11:38 |
| lpapp | Net147: so, no, I do not have any custom meta folder. | 11:38 |
| lpapp | only the usual "meta meta-demoapps meta-hob meta-skeleton meta-yocto" | 11:39 |
| tinti | Quite nice tutorial for newbies like me http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/07/05/12mb-minimal-image-for-raspberry-pi-using-the-yocto-project/ | 11:39 |
| lpapp | Net147: does that mean we use poky vanilla? | 11:39 |
| lpapp | ndec: usually when you have a problem, and you wanna solve it with VM, you have got two, IMO. | 11:40 |
| lpapp | and chroot is obviously not a solution for a full-blown ubuntu. | 11:40 |
| ndec | lpapp: well... i mentioned VM, but really what i would recommend is chroot or container. | 11:41 |
| Net147 | lpapp: download denzil 7.0.1 and compare your tree to check | 11:41 |
| lpapp | ok, so there is no guarantee just yet. | 11:42 |
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| ndec | i actually quite like to be able to do all my builds in a container, and not 'touch' anything on my main machine. | 11:42 |
| lpapp | ndec: IMO, having a full blown second layer (new environment) instead of a few patches is an overly overkill. | 11:43 |
| rburton | ndec: i'm lucky enough to have a dedicated build machine here, so that only has the barest system to get a build going. host contamination sucks. | 11:44 |
| rburton | ndec: if i had to use a single machine, i'd certainly be running yocto inside a container of some sort for that. | 11:44 |
| Net147 | I use a VM for my build system | 11:44 |
| ndec | lpapp: but by running after Arch, you might be running after something that runs faster than you.. | 11:44 |
| ndec | it depends if you care about fixing OE, or using it, in fact. | 11:45 |
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| Net147 | ndec: I run Arch for my Yocto builds =) | 11:45 |
| Net147 | ndec: but I am prepared to fix any issues that occur | 11:45 |
| lpapp | ndec: you are not obliged to update arch every single minute ... | 11:45 |
| ndec | sure... you can .. but you can't guarantee that every morning when you wake up everything is just going to be fine ;_) | 11:45 |
| lpapp | yes, you can. | 11:45 |
| ndec | anyways.. i didn't want to restart the discussion, it was a great time reading the backlog already, and we don't need more i guess! i just wanted to mention chroot/LXC as it hadn't been mentioned ;_) | 11:46 |
| lpapp | Net147: we actually have one "builds" folder in the poky root | 11:47 |
| lpapp | it contains conf/local.conf | 11:47 |
| lpapp | and downloads with many "\*.done" files | 11:47 |
| lpapp | that folder is used like this: | 11:47 |
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| lpapp | . oe-init-build-env mybuild | 11:47 |
| lpapp | bitbake core-image-minimal | 11:48 |
| lpapp | is that ok? | 11:48 |
| Net147 | lpapp: that creates mybuild directory with a default conf/local.conf | 11:48 |
| Net147 | lpapp: and sets up environment for build | 11:49 |
| lpapp | well, it is checked into the repository, still. | 11:49 |
| Net147 | lpapp: you can compare default local.conf with the local.conf used in your repository | 11:49 |
| lpapp | so I do not think it is the default. | 11:50 |
| Net147 | lpapp: repository history should indicate if there have been changes to the file | 11:50 |
| rburton | it's best not to check in a local.conf, if you want a site-wide conf file then you can check in site.conf | 11:50 |
| lpapp | in fact, I can say for sure it is not the default. | 11:50 |
| rburton | local.conf should truly be personal configuration realy | 11:50 |
| lpapp | it is truly personal. | 11:50 |
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| Net147 | lpapp: you could always just create your own meta-fixes layer and only add it to bblayers.conf when building on Arch | 11:57 |
| lpapp | yes, but it is not a simple sell as written when it is a bit more than what my colleagues has done so far. | 11:58 |
| Net147 | lpapp: are your target clients using Arch? | 11:59 |
| lpapp | Net147: pardon? | 11:59 |
| Net147 | lpapp: is Arch support important to your clients? | 11:59 |
| lpapp | Net147: I am not sure I follow. | 12:00 |
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| lpapp | how is my host OS to relevant to the client of the embedded hardware? | 12:00 |
| lpapp | OS relevant* | 12:00 |
| Net147 | lpapp: is anyone else interested in building your project with Arch besides you? | 12:01 |
| lpapp | who knows | 12:01 |
| lpapp | but it is irrelevant to clients. | 12:01 |
| Net147 | I see | 12:01 |
| lpapp | why so weird questions, anyway? :) | 12:02 |
| Net147 | lpapp: anything else? | 12:03 |
| lpapp | Net147: hmm? | 12:04 |
| Net147 | lpapp: do you have any more questions? | 12:05 |
| lpapp | Net147: plenty. :) | 12:05 |
| lpapp | but I do not think it is Yocto related now. | 12:05 |
| Net147 | okay, elsewhere then | 12:06 |
| lpapp | I am getting rid of Yocto for the time being. | 12:06 |
| lpapp | and just trying to grab and build the kernel, only. | 12:06 |
| Net147 | lpapp: good luck =) | 12:07 |
| lpapp | Net147: thank you for the help. I am sure I will have questions later. | 12:08 |
| lpapp | But I asked a question above which got unanswered. | 12:08 |
| Net147 | lpapp: could you please repeat the unanswered question? | 12:09 |
| lpapp | 12:19 < lpapp> how seamless is it to upgrade poky btw? | 12:09 |
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| Net147 | lpapp: extract a new version and then copy your build/conf files and any of your other changes over | 12:11 |
| Net147 | lpapp: some version numbers may need to be bumped | 12:12 |
| Net147 | lpapp: it also depends whether your hardware is supported by the new version | 12:12 |
| rburton | top tip is to use git branches instead of tarballs for poky, so you can checkout/branch/etc | 12:12 |
| Net147 | lpapp: personally I use a git clone of poky and then I have git clones for my project inside that poky folder | 12:13 |
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| rburton | Net147: as evil as they are, submodules are really useful there | 12:13 |
| Net147 | rburton: I haven't got into submodules yet | 12:14 |
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| rburton | Net147: guacamayo has a meta-guacamayo repo with submodules for all of the other layers. works nicely as the submodules are versioned along with our metadata, so changing branch means you get the right layer versions too. | 12:15 |
| rburton | Net147: made the "port to master" work a lot easier | 12:15 |
| Net147 | rburton: perhaps something to read into later | 12:16 |
| Net147 | rburton: I use git format-patch | gzip | base64, base64 -d | gzip -d | git am to transfer git changes between computers =P | 12:17 |
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| tinti | can I share multiple DL_DIR ? or is there a way to cache part of it contents ? | 12:32 |
| bluelightning | tinti: for multiple machines, you can copy DL_DIR to a shared location and use INHERIT += "own-mirrors" and SOURCE_MIRROR_URL to point to it | 12:33 |
| bluelightning | tinti: for different build dirs on the same machine you can just share the same DL_DIR | 12:33 |
| tinti | bluelightning: thanks, so I can do like DL_DIR=xpto . ov-setup build | 12:34 |
| bluelightning | tinti: that works yes, or set it in local.conf or site.conf | 12:35 |
| bluelightning | (or auto.conf for an autobuilder) | 12:35 |
| tinti | still a bit newbie, for the first option which files would I edit? | 12:35 |
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| bluelightning | tinti: conf/local.conf under your build dir is the best starting point | 12:53 |
| bluelightning | tinti: actually I don't think your above example will work | 12:53 |
| bluelightning | tinti: if you did want to specify it on the command line it would have to be when you run bitbake rather than the setup script | 12:53 |
| bluelightning | specifying it in local.conf is probably the easiest option | 12:53 |
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| Net147 | anyone else getting "/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format" when building GCC 4.8 package for target? https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4789 | 13:39 |
| yocti | Bug 4789: normal, Undecided, ---, raj.khem, NEW , can't build gcc recipe - /usr/lib/libstdc++.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format | 13:39 |
| Net147 | building GCC 4.7 works fine | 13:42 |
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| fenrig | Hi, I want to know more about getting professional support? | 14:26 |
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| bluelightning | Crofton: this may be your queue :) | 14:27 |
| bluelightning | er | 14:27 |
| bluelightning | cue | 14:27 |
| fenrig | :) | 14:28 |
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| fenrig | I can't find much official documentation about it, but I did hear it in the "getting started" training video :) | 14:29 |
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| rburton | fenrig: there are numerous smaller consultancies for bespoke stuff, or you can get a paid and supported version of yocto from a big vendor such as wind river/mentor/enea | 14:32 |
| fenrig | rburton: But I'll probably have to contact these companies so I they can inform me about it. The wind river websites doesn't really say anything about yocto support | 14:34 |
| rburton | fenrig: the new wind river linux *is* yocto | 14:34 |
| rburton | http://www.windriver.com/products/linux.html | 14:35 |
| rburton | same for the larger companies, their tailored products are yocto-based | 14:35 |
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| fenrig | Nice :D I'm actually just a student processing this information for a smaller companie (+- 50 employees) | 14:37 |
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| fenrig | Is it advisable for a smaller company to pay for support? | 14:38 |
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| rburton | its the usual learn yourself vs pay someone to help | 14:39 |
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| ant_work | fenrig: don't ask the cat about fish ;) | 14:39 |
| rburton | it's certainly common for companies to contract a consultant for the harder stuff/advice | 14:39 |
| * rburton can comment now that he isn't consulting anymore! | 14:40 | |
| ndec | a list of recommended freelance/consultant on yocto website, might be valuable. | 14:41 |
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| fenrig | Well actually we are in learning it ourselves, it's actually a low level controller company. But they want to use Linux and probably Qt for smarter and more "sexy" HMI's | 14:42 |
| rburton | ndec: yes, it would. but recommending is tricky. | 14:42 |
| fenrig | ndec: indeed, yocto doesn't provide much information about it :) | 14:42 |
| fenrig | rburton: also true :) | 14:42 |
| ndec | rburton: agreed. in fact https://www.yoctoproject.org/ecosystem/yocto-project-participants is a decent 'starting' list. | 14:43 |
| rburton | fenrig: one option is to mail the yocto list with a brief outline of the work and ask if anyone is interested | 14:43 |
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| ndec | or https://www.yoctoproject.org/ecosystem/member-organizations | 14:44 |
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| ant_work | fenrig: honestly if time is not a matter and you're not using any fancy new hw you could reasonably do that yourself | 14:46 |
| ant_work | but if you have deadlines then... | 14:46 |
| fenrig | Well we are experimenting with the system as we speak :) | 14:48 |
| fenrig | so no deadline is not an issue :) | 14:48 |
| ndec | no deadline sounds like a dream job ;-) | 14:49 |
| fenrig | We are even in the process of choosing decent hardware, at the moment we are thinking about emtrion because they have dimm baseboards :) | 14:49 |
| fenrig | ndec: I do have deadlines, but they are aggreed upon while the work is ongoing. We don't have much experience with linux embedded, but because it's such a blooming business (YOCTO is really a great build system) it isn't that complicated as it used to be :) | 14:50 |
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| Lahar | Hello All, I am trying to do bitbake fsl-image-full but everytime I am running this command I am getting this error - ERROR: Task 674 (/home/lahar/QorIQ-SDK-V1.4-20130625-yocto/meta-fsl-ppc/recipes-devtools/qemu/qemu_fslgit.bb, do_install) failed with exit code '1'....Please help me with this.. | 15:38 |
| Lahar | bitbake fsl-image-minimal builds just fine...It's just the full image which is giving me errors. | 15:39 |
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| rburton | Lahar: read the actual log it points at to see what the actual error was | 15:40 |
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| Lahar | rburton: Yes I tried to read and my guess is - It wasn't able to install qemu_fslgit.bb ? And I am not sure how to fix this? | 15:42 |
| bluelightning | Lahar: can you pastebin the complete error? | 15:43 |
| rburton | Lahar: pastebin the entire log.do_install | 15:43 |
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| tlwoerner | Lahar: are you working off master or dylan? (or something else) | 15:47 |
| Lahar | rburton: bluelightning: I am runnning Linux on virtual machine and for some reason my virtual machine is not getting connected to internet and copy paste from there doesn't work...Trying to fix...will paste error soon.. | 15:49 |
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| Lahar | tlwoerner: I am not sure what dylan and master is...I am using P4080DS board and dowanloaded installed v1.4 SDK. It's a freescale board and SDK. Is this is what you are asking? | 15:51 |
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| rburton | 1.4 == dylan (http://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases) | 15:54 |
| Lahar | rburton: tlwoerner: rbuton, Thanks for the link. I am using Yocto 1.4 so that means yes I am using "Dylan" | 15:56 |
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| Lahar | rburton: Here is the pastebin link - http://pastebin.com/MsNvXkM1 Sorry for late reply. Was having some technical issues. | 16:34 |
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| Lahar | bluelightning: Here is the link - http://pastebin.com/MsNvXkM1 | 16:35 |
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| bluelightning | Lahar: I think this is something you'll need to post about on the meta-freescale mailing list: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/meta-freescale | 16:37 |
| bluelightning | since this is custom version of qemu from the meta-fsl-ppc layer | 16:37 |
| Lahar | bluelightning: ok Thanks! Really appreciate your help. | 16:38 |
| bluelightning | (assuming there are no Freescale PPC experts in here at the moment that is...) | 16:38 |
| Lahar | bluelightning: how do we know what to post and where? Do I need to come here and ask first everytime I see something? | 16:39 |
| bluelightning | Lahar: depends where the problem is... in this case I saw that it was qemu_fslgit that failed, and I knew that isn't something that is part of the core | 16:40 |
| bluelightning | it's fine to ask any questions here as long as they are yocto-related; if there are better places we can always direct folks there | 16:40 |
| Lahar | bluelightning: got you! Thanks | 16:40 |
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| bluelightning | hmm... fail | 16:57 |
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| lpapp | hi again... | 17:18 |
| lpapp | who is working on the python3 port? | 17:18 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: Richard Purdie | 17:29 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: he is on holiday at the moment however | 17:29 |
| lpapp | I would like to help. | 17:29 |
| lpapp | but some coordination would be inevitable. | 17:29 |
| bluelightning | sure | 17:30 |
| lpapp | if he is on holiday ... not much that can be coordinated. | 17:30 |
| bluelightning | I think we could still accept patches at this point as long as they do not break compatibility with 2.7 | 17:30 |
| bluelightning | AIUI most of the changes left are of the nature that makes it hard to maintain backwards compatibility though | 17:31 |
| rburton | the low-hanging fruit has been sorted afaik | 17:33 |
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| rburton | but grabbing the branch and making it actually work would be a good start | 17:33 |
| rburton | iirc, it runs but doesnt build entirely correctly | 17:33 |
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| kergoth | maybe we should convert to 3 and run 3to2 or something | 17:41 |
| kergoth | heh | 17:41 |
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| Crofton|work | Apparently RP is having motorcycle issues | 17:45 |
| bluelightning | Crofton|work: oh? | 17:45 |
| bluelightning | (one might be tempted to ask "when is he not") ;) | 17:46 |
| Crofton|work | very true | 17:46 |
| bluelightning | although given the punishment his bikes go through it's understandable | 17:46 |
| Crofton|work | especially since he rides it off road and falls off | 17:46 |
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| dnil_ | I could use some debugging help... I'm trying to build poky (dylan 9.0.1) with a beaglebone BSP (https://gitmeta-beagleboard). | 19:43 |
| dnil_ | https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard | 19:43 |
| dnil_ | I build core-image-minimal and that works until the rootfs is to be populated. | 19:45 |
| dnil_ | "Note: to be installed: rpm-postinsts@all packagegroup-core-boot@beaglebone" | 19:46 |
| dnil_ | "Computing transaction...error: Can't install libblkid1-2.22.2-r3@armv7a_vfp_neon: no package provides libuuid1 >= 2.23.1" | 19:46 |
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| dnil_ | libuuid1 is built, but at version 2.22.2 | 19:47 |
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| dnil_ | How can I debug why this rpm-postinsts depends on version 2.23.1 due to switching BSP? | 19:48 |
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| dnil_ | Managed to work around by wiping the build directory and starting over again, just deleting build/tmp didn't help | 21:00 |
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| Umeaboy | Anyone that may want to help me to change the OS of my TV? I have bootloader access. | 23:48 |
| Umeaboy | Uboot and Mstar followed by a Titania-CPU. | 23:49 |
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