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Net147 | RP: seems multiple issues with bitbake recently... | 01:12 |
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mranostay | hi challinan | 03:14 |
mranostay | is there a yocto developer day this year at LinuxCon/ELCE? | 03:21 |
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tf | zibri: yes, installing libc6-dev-i386 fixes the problem, without any other changes | 06:58 |
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bluelightning | morning all | 07:55 |
lpapp | bluelightning: good morning | 07:59 |
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zibri | tf: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5054 | 08:10 |
yocti | Bug 5054: normal, Medium, 1.5 M5, dvhart, NEW , syslinux-native depends on i386 libc headers on amd64 | 08:10 |
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RP | morning all | 08:32 |
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mihai | morning RP, bluelightning, all | 08:38 |
JaMa | morning | 08:39 |
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bluelightning | mihai: JaMa: I'm going to send a set of patches to remove the recipes added to OE-Core from meta-oe / meta-gnome FYI | 08:42 |
bluelightning | mihai: oops, wrong mihai, sorry ;) | 08:43 |
mihai | bluelightning: ok, I'll let Mihai Prica know ;-) | 08:43 |
* bluelightning has red face | 08:43 | |
mihai | bluelightning: np | 08:43 |
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ant_work | RP: do you think this issue can happen? What about hardcoding usr? | 08:46 |
ant_work | http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-initramfs/recipes-devtools/klibc/klibc-2.0.2/use-env-for-perl.patch | 08:46 |
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ant_work | RP: I've never hit that and I think same for JaMa's autobuilder | 08:47 |
JaMa | bluelightning: thanks | 08:51 |
joseppc | hi, I am writing a makefile-based recipe, it is very simple without do_compile or extra_oemake defined, but I noticed that the CFLAGS defined in the Makefile itself are not honored, instead only the CFLAGS environment variable setup by bitbake is used. Do you know what causes this and how to solve it? Thanks | 08:55 |
zibri | joseppc: -e in EXTRA_OEMAKE | 08:56 |
zibri | you should be able to set EXTRA_OEMAKE to "" in your recipe to get rid of that behavior, if that's what you want | 08:57 |
joseppc | zibri: thanks. I believe I still need the cflags defined in the environment by bitbake, but I definitely want the ones in the Makefile too... | 09:00 |
joseppc | EXTRA_OEMAKE = "" did the trick | 09:03 |
RP | ant_work: its a problem. Don't we have the perlnative bbclass to assist with this? | 09:09 |
RP | ant_work: You might end up having to use a wrapper :/ | 09:09 |
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ant_work | RP: seems that perl-native recipe creates the wrapper | 09:12 |
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ant_work | RP: so I'm already safe being DEPENDS = "linux-libc-headers perl-native" | 09:21 |
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RP | ant_work: I think if I remember rightly there is a perl-native binary you can convert it to use | 09:50 |
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RP | then we will get the right thing out of PATH | 09:50 |
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ant_work | RP: for a perl expert, the script is trivial and the patch just seems to touch a print. As for perl-native the recipe explicitely says it fixes such cases | 09:54 |
ant_work | http://git.kernel.org/cgit/libs/klibc/klibc.git/tree/klcc/makeklcc.pl | 09:54 |
thesignal | hi, how do i find out which package builds a specific programm? something like a search function for "package provides" | 09:56 |
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ant_work | RP: but I don't know what will end up with a collapsed /usr in / | 09:58 |
ant_work | RP: guess what? I ask pb_ | 09:59 |
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lpapp | hmm, hi. | 10:51 |
lpapp | it might be off-topic, but let me give it a try: | configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host. | 10:51 |
lpapp | | If a cross compiler is detected then cross compile mode will be used. | 10:51 |
lpapp | what does it mean? | 10:51 |
lpapp | it was complaining about the host mode before. | 10:51 |
lpapp | that is why I passed --host in there. | 10:51 |
lpapp | I was using this from a Makefile, ./configure --host=`gcc -dumpmachine`; make | 10:53 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: should I use unset for CC too? | 10:57 |
lpapp | like CPPFLAGS? | 10:57 |
lpapp | or CC will get overriden? | 10:57 |
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lpapp | ./configure --build=`gcc -dumpmachine` --host='${CC} -dumpmachine`; $(MAKE) | 11:06 |
* lpapp is using that now | 11:06 | |
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lpapp | where is Yocto getting the HOST_SYS variable set? | 11:17 |
lpapp | ../meta/classes/staging.bbclass:32: if [ "${BUILD_SYS}" = "${HOST_SYS}" ]; then | 11:20 |
lpapp | hmm, is that bug? Note, '=' instead of '==' | 11:21 |
lpapp | hmm, apparently no, a right bash syntax... | 11:22 |
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Saur | lpapp: Actually, == is bash syntax, = is posix | 11:25 |
lpapp | yes, == is bash syntax | 11:25 |
lpapp | although = works, too | 11:25 |
lpapp | not sure what you mean by posix, though. | 11:25 |
Saur | lpapp: posix is the official standards behind most of unix. If you want stuff to be compatible, it should follow posix. | 11:27 |
Saur | lpapp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX | 11:27 |
lpapp | I still have no idea what you mean by posix in here. | 11:27 |
ant_work | Portable Operating System Interface | 11:28 |
Saur | lpapp: What I mean is that using = is posix compatible and will work even if you use dash instead of bash. Using == will not. | 11:28 |
lpapp | only if the shell in question wanna be compliant. | 11:29 |
lpapp | i.e. cmd.exe will not work. | 11:29 |
lpapp | I was writing a shell interpreter, I would not accept it either because it is silly... and would probably the root cause of subtle bugs. | 11:30 |
lpapp | if* | 11:30 |
Saur | lpapp: Well, all I know is that after debian switched to using dash as its default shell rather than bash, we had to fix a lot of scripts that used bashisms (bash specific code). | 11:32 |
lpapp | I consider that breaking. ;) | 11:33 |
lpapp | I mean, I do not know any other programming language or even scripting, having this syntax. | 11:33 |
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thesignal | lpapp: vhdl uses "=" for comparing too, see http://www.csee.umbc.edu/portal/help/VHDL/operator.html | 11:43 |
thesignal | fyi ;) | 11:43 |
lpapp | thesignal: I said programming and scripting languages. | 11:43 |
zibri | erlang as well :) | 11:43 |
lpapp | VHDL as far as I know is a hardware description language. | 11:43 |
thesignal | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHDL : "VHDL can also be used as a general purpose parallel programming language" | 11:44 |
thesignal | but yes you're right, 99% it is used for hardware description ;) | 11:45 |
lpapp | thesignal: perhaps someone it can be hacked around, but the very beginning of the wikipedia link is: | 11:45 |
lpapp | "VHDL (VHSIC Hardware Description Language) is a hardware description language..." | 11:45 |
lpapp | can you show a programming language use case in /query (as it is getting off-topic)? | 11:46 |
lpapp | anyway, it is not a bug; good to know. | 11:46 |
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Net147 | VHDL is also used for programming FPGAs. I know someone that is doing so. | 11:50 |
lpapp | I wonder if you mean by programming hardware description, i.e. gates, etc. | 11:51 |
Net147 | lpapp: programming gates yes, to build functionality | 11:52 |
lpapp | they call it hardware description | 11:52 |
Crofton|work | bluelightning, do you have any thoughts on resolving the dropbear/openssh issue while builds sdk's? | 11:54 |
Crofton|work | I duped the problem | 11:54 |
lpapp | Net147: and many also call the flashing programming. :) | 11:54 |
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lpapp | JaMa: do you think it would be acceptable to put openflow into meta-networking? | 12:03 |
lpapp | the one in meta-virtualism is outdated, and it is a bit weird why it is there. | 12:03 |
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Net147 | anything special I need to do to switch to 3.10 kernel? I set the preferrred version and I get NOTE: preferred version 3.10% of linux-yocto not available (for item virtual/kernel), NOTE: versions of linux-yocto available: 3.8.13+gitAUTOINC+e7f42a416a_f20047520a | 12:15 |
bluelightning | Crofton|work: somehow the dependency chain has to be broken, there's no other way to fix it | 12:16 |
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cfo215 | Crofton|work, did you happen to get a chance to look into the issue I was having yesterday? | 12:25 |
Crofton|work | I made it happen again | 12:25 |
Crofton|work | I need to look at the depndency chains | 12:26 |
Crofton|work | I'll try and get to it | 12:26 |
Crofton|work | but I am going on holiday tmoorrow | 12:26 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, thanks. I appreciate your efforts. Have a good holiday. | 12:26 |
Crofton|work | it is an annoying thing that will bite others | 12:26 |
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ant_work | RP: there is ever a bashism... $(shell bash -c 'type -p $(PERL)') \ | 12:27 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, most everything I've run into has been an "annoying thing that will bite others". My plan is to eventually document my experiences. | 12:27 |
cfo215 | hopefully it will help some other newb like me. | 12:28 |
RP | ant_work: I haven't had time to look into that in detail, sorry :( | 12:28 |
Crofton|work | heh | 12:28 |
Crofton|work | I want to get a fix in | 12:28 |
Crofton|work | also looking for hack though | 12:28 |
RP | cfo215: such docs would be much appreciated | 12:28 |
cfo215 | Either works for me at this point. I really need to get that SDK going. | 12:28 |
RP | cfo215: we do want to try and remove such obstacles... | 12:28 |
ant_work | RP: thx. I'll grep for recipes using perl-native.and report any interesting findings | 12:29 |
RP | ant_work: I think the best way to fix this would be to ensure there is a symlink in the native sysroot bin directory for "nativeperl" or "perlnative" to the perl in the perl-native subdirectory | 12:29 |
RP | ant_work: you'd then change the start of the file to call "nativeperl" or "perlnative" | 12:30 |
RP | I could have sworn we had this symlink but I can't see it | 12:30 |
RP | equally I'm trying to do 10 things at once | 12:30 |
lpapp | does anyone know anything about the author of the meta-networking module? Is he on vacation, sick, etc? | 12:30 |
ant_work | RP: imagine I'm afk here in office ;) | 12:30 |
Net147 | nevermind, forgot to rename bbappend for kernel | 12:31 |
cfo215 | RP: I'm willing to help however I can. I'm not new to open source... just to ARM/OE/Yocto/Angstrom/etc. | 12:32 |
Saur | When I ran bitbake in a new build directory using an existing sstate cache, I got some 20 occurrences simliar to "WARNING: Setscene task 245 (/home/pkj/yocto/poky-dylan/meta/recipes-connectivity/connman/connman_1.12.bb, do_package_setscene) failed with exit code '1' - real task will be run instead". | 12:33 |
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Saur | Is this normal? | 12:33 |
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Saur | In the log I found "pseudo: pseudo: can't run useradd: Permission denied" which seems to be the cause... | 12:33 |
Crofton|work | cfo215, TASK_BASIC_SSHDAEMON = "openssh openssh-sftp openssh-sftp-server" | 12:35 |
Crofton|work | add that to conf/local.conf and rebuld | 12:35 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, will do. It shouldn't take long. | 12:35 |
Crofton|work | I am trying also, but I think I screwed it up :) | 12:36 |
cfo215 | :) | 12:36 |
Crofton|work | bluelightning, do you know much about qt-embedded and touchscreens? | 12:36 |
bluelightning | Crofton|work: a little, what's the question? | 12:36 |
Crofton|work | cfo215, is trying to use it on a bone+some lcd and has an issue | 12:37 |
bluelightning | cfo215: if you could expand on your issue that would be nice :) | 12:37 |
Crofton|work | he's probably trying to fix hios sdk issue :) | 12:39 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, bluelightning: in a nutshell, there is no (afaicd) touchscreen support in the console-image. I need that for my Qt application to work properly. It may be a recipe I can append, like I'm doing to get my Qt support and Phidgit library included in the build. | 12:39 |
Crofton|work | so you are adding qt-embeeded via IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL? | 12:40 |
cfo215 | yes | 12:40 |
bluelightning | cfo215: this is qt4 right? | 12:40 |
cfo215 | bluelightning, Crofton|work, my conf has IMAGE_INSTALL_append += "qt4-embedded" in it. | 12:41 |
bluelightning | cfo215: ok, FYI that will pull in a load of things that you don't need, but you can trim that down later of course | 12:42 |
bluelightning | cfo215: by default, qt-e uses tslib to enable touchscreen support, and that provides a number of backends for different touchscreen devices | 12:42 |
cfo215 | bluelightning, yeah, I seen it add all the demos, etc. That's an easy fix though. | 12:42 |
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bluelightning | cfo215: one thing to do might be to install the tslib-tests and tslib-calibrate packages and then run those outside of the qt-e application to see whether they work | 12:43 |
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cfo215 | bluelightning, that's good. As long as I can calibrate it somehow I'll be happy. Do you know if ts_calibrate is included in the qt-e package? | 12:44 |
bluelightning | cfo215: it's not, no | 12:44 |
cfo215 | bluelightning, np. I can probably add it as a recipe to the build. | 12:45 |
bluelightning | cfo215: ts_calibrate is super bare bones though, I suspect you'd want a proper qt-e application for that purpose ultimately | 12:45 |
Crofton|work | cfo215, I ahve an sdk | 12:46 |
cfo215 | bluelightning, do you know if one exists already for Qt? I know how to rotate the screen via the -qws params. | 12:46 |
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cfo215 | Crofton|work, I'm on 0: console-image-1.0-r0 do_populate_sdk (pid 332) :-) | 12:47 |
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bluelightning | cfo215: for the latter I'm not sure if there is one provided out of the box with qt, but I did just come across this: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qws-mousecalibration.html | 12:48 |
bluelightning | cfo215: not sure how relevant it is | 12:48 |
cfo215 | bluelightning, I'll have a look. thanks | 12:48 |
cfo215 | I'm sure if I bought a license for Qt they'll be able to tell me how to do it... | 12:49 |
bluelightning | cfo215: this may be of interest as well: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qt-embedded-pointer.html | 12:50 |
cfo215 | bluelightning, thanks again! | 12:50 |
bluelightning | cfo215: np | 12:51 |
Crofton|work | cfo215, if you get this to owrk, go to ELCE and buy us some beer | 12:52 |
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Crofton|work | I'll dig into the depends hell later | 12:53 |
Crofton|work | hopefully openssh over dropbear works for you for now | 12:53 |
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cfo215 | Crofton|work, that sounds like a plan. When/where is ELCE? | 12:57 |
Crofton|work | Edinburgh | 12:57 |
Crofton|work | late October | 12:57 |
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cfo215 | Oh, that really sounds like a plan... I'll see if the missus would like to travel to Scottland! | 12:58 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, bluelightning, thanks for all your help. I really do appreciate it! | 13:00 |
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Crofton|work | http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe | 13:03 |
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zibri | has anybody experience building images with xbmc? i get a lot of errors. fixing them becomes whack a mole. now i have: "Java not found, it will be used if found after configure. This is not necessarily an error.", but this is followed by a fatal make error: make: *** [java-not-found] Error 1 | 13:17 |
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bluelightning | zibri: I think it's fair to say the xbmc recipe in meta-multimedia has been very problematic | 13:25 |
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zibri | i'm not surprised. i've had similar issues last time i tried. | 13:26 |
bluelightning | I think patches would certainly be welcome, but AFAICT it's been a few different people spending ages trying to get the thing working since it's existed and only getting about 90% of the way each time | 13:26 |
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zibri | yeah, i had a look at the xbmc build system last time i tried, but didn't make much progress. | 13:27 |
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zibri | i've been able to solve some minor issues, but i'm not even close to be able to build it successfully. :( | 13:31 |
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cfo215 | Crofton|work, I have a toolchain. Installing it now... thanks again. | 13:38 |
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lpapp | hmm, what can I do when there is no error message, but I get a do_compile error issue? | 14:00 |
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mihai | lpapp: you check the do_compile log | 14:01 |
lpapp | ERROR: Task 6 (/home/lpapp/Projects/Yocto/poky-dylan-9.0.1/meta-foo/recipes-foo/bar/bar_0.1.bb, do_compile) failed with exit code '1' | 14:01 |
lpapp | mihai: as I said, it has nothing inside that writes error | 14:02 |
lpapp | except that very line | 14:02 |
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mihai | it should point you to a log.do_compile* file when bitbake ends | 14:03 |
lpapp | yeah, so? | 14:03 |
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lpapp | only error result is: warning: variable 'error' set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-variable] | 14:04 |
lpapp | but that is actually only a warning. | 14:04 |
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* lpapp will try MAKE = "make VERBOSE=1" in do_compile | 14:04 | |
lpapp | will that be overriden by oe_runmake ? | 14:05 |
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lpapp | ok, VERBOSE=1 helped | 14:07 |
lpapp | it showed a missing dependency... | 14:07 |
lpapp | I wonder how to improve this? I should have gotten that right away... | 14:07 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: oh, I need to unset the LDFLAGS, too? | 14:15 |
lpapp | i.e.: do_compile() { unset CPPFLAGS LDFLAGS oe_runmake -C | 14:16 |
lpapp | foo } | 14:17 |
bluelightning | not sure, depends; but I see we do have some recipes that do that | 14:17 |
lpapp | lots of undefined reference error | 14:17 |
lpapp | even though the makefile is correct | 14:17 |
lpapp | and the -lpthread, etc are not passed. | 14:17 |
lpapp | yeah, that was it. | 14:17 |
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ant_work | lpapp: it looks like you are abusing / perusing the buildsystem | 14:18 |
ant_work | ;) | 14:18 |
lpapp | ? | 14:18 |
ant_work | lpapp: the heap of issues you're mentioning is not normal | 14:19 |
ant_work | lopapp: if the sources are written well you should not generally touch the flags | 14:20 |
ant_work | lpapp: sorry for mistyping | 14:20 |
lpapp | ant_work: ? | 14:21 |
lpapp | how would you link against the symbol without a library providing that? | 14:21 |
ant_work | lpapp: try starting with a single .c file and play with the flags | 14:22 |
ant_work | lpapp: then pass to Makefile then to autofoo | 14:22 |
lpapp | ant_work: why would I start playing? | 14:22 |
lpapp | I have a working system. | 14:22 |
lpapp | you think it is abusing to pass -lpthread when you wanna have a symbol from libpthread.so.X | 14:23 |
lpapp | which is incorrect. | 14:23 |
ant_work | lpapp: the author knows the dependencies | 14:23 |
lpapp | I *am* the author. | 14:23 |
lpapp | and I set up stuff properly. | 14:24 |
lpapp | it is only that yocto overrides my wish by default. | 14:24 |
lpapp | that is why you use unset first. | 14:24 |
ant_work | lpapp: I know very well what happens resetting the flags and pointing to some other include dir | 14:24 |
ant_work | but I have a very specific reason to do that (klcc) | 14:24 |
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lpapp | ant_work: I will find you the bugreport, sec, hold on... | 14:26 |
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lpapp | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5046 | 14:27 |
yocti | Bug 5046: normal, Undecided, ---, scott.m.rifenbark, NEEDINFO , Document that CPPFLAGS override behavior and possible workaround | 14:27 |
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walters | rburton: you use Debian right? | 14:29 |
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walters | or does anyone know; i have someone trying to build my oe-derived system on Debian, and they're getting: `mkdir: cannot create directory '/usr/include/gnu': Permission denied` in eglibc-initial_2.17.bb | 14:29 |
walters | that directory appears to exist on RHEL/Fedora hosts by default, but not on Debian | 14:30 |
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RP | walters: he does, yes but is away atm | 14:30 |
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zibri | walters: i don't have that issue, but i have that directory. | 14:30 |
RP | walters: sounds like a bust makefile somewhere :/ | 14:31 |
erbo | yocto shouldn't install stuff in hosts /usr/include/gnu | 14:31 |
RP | It won't, it will just be a bust makefile where the existence check looks without the DESTDIR prefix :/ | 14:31 |
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kergoth | hmm, TypeError in gtk+ do_package, odd | 14:46 |
* kergoth digsd | 14:46 | |
kergoth | s/d$// | 14:46 |
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lpapp | what is the relation of oe-lite to openembedded? | 14:52 |
kergoth | https://gist.github.com/kergoth/6366936 this is odd, particularly the TypeError with no context/message/arguments | 14:55 |
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RP | kergoth: Looks like it happened somewhere in setVar :/ | 15:02 |
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kergoth | aha. ' '.join(None) -> TypeError with no message. do_split_packages must be returning None for me for some reason | 15:17 |
kergoth | :) | 15:17 |
* kergoth kicks python | 15:17 | |
cfo215 | having issues with built SDKs: executables seem to be linking to the wrong libraries: http://pastebin.com/AuVAWmtD for my attempts at debugging this. | 15:19 |
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cfo215 | added some links... new pastebin http://pastebin.com/em5yRhN4 | 15:23 |
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kergoth | odd. both the x11 and wayland backends are enabled, yet no immodules were installed | 16:04 |
kergoth | ah, right, i see | 16:07 |
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kergoth | i hate when recipes include a .inc with the non-prefixed path, so you can't override the .inc in a high priority layer (though usually a temporary measure, can still be handy as a workaround) | 16:15 |
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lpapp | JaMa: QT5 layer for openembedded -> you might want to fix that to Qt5 or Qt 5 | 16:19 |
lpapp | QT is Quick Time. ;-) | 16:19 |
lpapp | this is the description on github. | 16:19 |
lpapp | JaMa: Also, I have a patch for 5.1.1 | 16:19 |
lpapp | at least, I think I have. :) | 16:20 |
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lpapp | what is this issue about when running "bitbake core-image-minimal"? http://paste.kde.org/~lpapp/pb3801594/ | 17:14 |
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bluelightning | lpapp: looks like incorrectly set up /dev/shm | 17:15 |
bluelightning | lpapp: didn't you just comment on bug 4925? | 17:15 |
yocti | Bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4925 enhancement, Low, ---, scott.m.rifenbark, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Hard to set up shard memory IPC in chroot for supported distributions | 17:15 |
lpapp | bluelightning: I did, but how is that relevant? | 17:16 |
bluelightning | surely this is the situation that prompted you to file that bug in the first place.. | 17:16 |
lpapp | no | 17:18 |
lpapp | it was before that. | 17:18 |
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bluelightning | well, it's the same problem AFAICT | 17:24 |
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lpapp | no, it is not. | 17:25 |
lpapp | one is the documentation issue | 17:25 |
lpapp | this is now a runtime issue at hand. | 17:25 |
lpapp | or you mean it is all shm topic? Yes, different subparts. | 17:26 |
bluelightning | the runtime issue is due to you not setting up /dev/shm in your chroot properly | 17:27 |
lpapp | bluelightning: http://paste.kde.org/~lpapp/p51aa7906/ -> what is this | 17:28 |
lpapp | bluelightning: you are welcome to tell me how that is set properly ... (still) ;-) | 17:28 |
bluelightning | we've stated many times we do not support chroot setups | 17:28 |
bluelightning | if you want to use one, fine, and it can be made to work | 17:29 |
bluelightning | but it's up to you to do that | 17:29 |
lpapp | how? | 17:29 |
lpapp | lol | 17:29 |
lpapp | anyway, what is the issue above? | 17:29 |
bluelightning | not sure, there's no mention of "root-ssh-authorized" anywhere in poky | 17:30 |
kergoth | this also really isn't at all yocto specific, not setting up a chroot properly will break all sorts of software | 17:30 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: denzil | 17:30 |
lpapp | it has not broken any softwares the last 10-15 years | 17:30 |
bluelightning | lpapp: or in denzil | 17:30 |
lpapp | bluelightning: well, I apparently have... | 17:31 |
bluelightning | lpapp: then apparently this is another of the changes yourself or your colleagues have made to poky | 17:31 |
lpapp | it is upstream denzil. | 17:31 |
bluelightning | I just grepped upstream denzil | 17:31 |
lpapp | maybe with some layer. | 17:31 |
lpapp | anyway, I am going to clone poky now. | 17:31 |
lpapp | also, why would core-image-minimal include any custom stuff? | 17:32 |
bluelightning | assuming it's unmodified, you can still set CORE_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL in your config to add additional packages to it | 17:33 |
lpapp | wow, really? | 17:34 |
lpapp | I am not sure that is a good idea. | 17:34 |
lpapp | because that is not a core minimal image anymore then | 17:34 |
lpapp | but some custom image. | 17:34 |
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bluelightning | it's about enabling users to get started adding things easily | 17:34 |
lpapp | well, what is wrong about extending an image in an own image? | 17:35 |
bluelightning | it's more effort? | 17:35 |
lpapp | like including that + stuff | 17:35 |
lpapp | more effort how? | 17:35 |
lpapp | IMO it is misleading to call an image core-image-minimal if it can be full of customized stuff | 17:36 |
bluelightning | it just is | 17:36 |
bluelightning | the user could go and edit the file as well, that would change its contents without changing its name... so how would not allowing this solve that? | 17:36 |
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bluelightning | lpapp: looking at the error more closely, it's task-core-boot that contains the dependency | 17:40 |
bluelightning | lpapp: meaning it could only be a setting of VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_* or MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS or MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS that is causing this | 17:40 |
lpapp | bluelightning: as I said, it would solve the issue | 17:41 |
bluelightning | no, it wouldn't | 17:41 |
lpapp | because they would need to create an additional image. | 17:41 |
lpapp | sure, it would. | 17:41 |
lpapp | you could not inject from your layer anymore. | 17:41 |
bluelightning | no, they could just edit the existing image -> same "problem" | 17:41 |
lpapp | no | 17:41 |
lpapp | modifying a meta image is a m00t point | 17:41 |
lpapp | meta layer* | 17:41 |
lpapp | because that is something you have to trust | 17:41 |
lpapp | checksum etc | 17:41 |
lpapp | it is like saying you do not trust the linux kernel because anyone can inject a module. | 17:42 |
lpapp | without security frameworks, you cannot do anything really secure right up from the kernel. | 17:42 |
lpapp | however external layers injecting stuff... that can be a security concern easily. | 17:42 |
lpapp | it is dangerous and confusing IMHO. | 17:43 |
lpapp | if you wanna have your image on top of core-image-minimal, fine, include it and extend. | 17:43 |
lpapp | that is what you do with distros as well after all, or layers. | 17:44 |
lpapp | this is my opinion. :) | 17:45 |
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lpapp | btw, getting this for wheezy which should be a supported distribution? WARNING: Host distribution "Debian-GNU-Linux-7" has not been validated with this version of the build system; you may possibly experience unexpected failures. It is recommended that you use a tested distribution. | 17:47 |
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Crofton|work | if cfo pops in again, can someone tell him my sdk runs on Fedora 19 | 17:53 |
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Crofton|work | in the sense I did not get the error he got running gcc | 17:53 |
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lpapp | Crofton|work: sure | 17:54 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: http://paste.kde.org/~lpapp/pd8b697a2/ -> getting three errors after 1400+ successful jobs. | 18:10 |
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lpapp | python --version | 18:11 |
lpapp | Python 2.7.3 | 18:11 |
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sgw_ | lpapp: it looks like you have run out of space on your disk | 18:18 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: got a clue for that one? | 18:33 |
bluelightning | lpapp: the clue is what sgw_ said i.e. "No space left on device" | 18:34 |
lpapp | I have not seen that as I had to leave. | 18:34 |
lpapp | sgw_: I see, thanks. | 18:35 |
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drasko | Hi all, what size on HD can Yocto build take? | 19:29 |
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drasko | I am thinking about taking some VPS plan | 19:29 |
drasko | to have a Yocto build dedicated machine | 19:30 |
drasko | An I am looking at the pricing here: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing | 19:30 |
drasko | What I am wondering is would 20GB SSD Disk be enough | 19:30 |
kergoth | unlikely, unless you're not building very much | 19:31 |
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drasko | kergoth, so, it is enough? | 19:31 |
drasko | ah... You said actually that it is not enough? | 19:33 |
lpapp | drasko: 100 GB is the recommeded | 19:33 |
drasko | I see... | 19:33 |
drasko | Anyone aware of some web based build service that I can use? | 19:33 |
lpapp | "The build process using Sato currently consumes about 50GB of disk space. To allow for variations in the build process and for future package expansion, we recommend having at least 100GB of free disk space." | 19:33 |
lpapp | drasko: OBS | 19:33 |
drasko | (I do not have powerful PC nor lot of free space) | 19:34 |
lpapp | drasko: use rm_work | 19:34 |
lpapp | sadly, there is no rm_download, but there is a bugreport for that | 19:34 |
kergoth | it depends on what you're trying to build | 19:34 |
kergoth | which image, etc. there's a big difference between the space requirements of a minimal console image and a substantial gui image, for example | 19:35 |
drasko | lpapp, what is OBS? | 19:35 |
lpapp | drasko: it is not related to Yocto, so forget about it. | 19:35 |
drasko | OK | 19:36 |
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sgw_ | lpapp: if your still around, did you change any of the BB_DISKMON_DIRS numbers or comment it out? | 20:39 |
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lpapp | sgw_: nope | 20:43 |
lpapp | cfo215: hey | 20:43 |
cfo215 | lpapp, howdy | 20:44 |
lpapp | cfo215: https://www.yoctoproject.org/irc/latest.log.html#t2013-08-28T17:53:33 | 20:44 |
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cfo215 | lpapp, OK? | 20:45 |
lpapp | cfo215: you are welcome. | 20:46 |
sgw_ | lpapp: Ok, seems the disk monitoring did not do it's job then, how much disk space was available at the time? | 20:46 |
lpapp | sgw_: not sure | 20:46 |
cfo215 | lpapp, still not following... a little brain dead today. | 20:48 |
sgw_ | lpapp: Ok, well just wanted to try and figure out what really happened. | 20:48 |
lpapp | sgw_: you are right that the monitor should have stopped stuff. | 20:49 |
lpapp | cfo215: well, I was just trying to hand a message over.. | 20:49 |
cfo215 | lpapp, ic. | 20:50 |
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cfo215 | lpapp, I got my console-image to build finally. I'm still having issues with the Angstrom SDK in the Angstrom-2013.06-yocto1.4 git branch. koen is aware of it. Has to do with LD_LIBRARY_PATH http://pastebin.com/L9Kspun1 | 20:53 |
cfo215 | lpapp, I'm really trying my best to break everything! LOL | 20:55 |
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Crofton|work | cfo215, so gcc from the sdk ran for me on Fedora 19 | 21:01 |
feydrautha80 | hello | 21:01 |
Crofton|work | what OS are you on? | 21:01 |
ant_home | well, what's happened to stat recipe? ERROR: Function failed: package_get_auto_pr | 21:02 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, Who? I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS for my development. | 21:02 |
Crofton|work | hmmm, anyone here running an sdk built on Ubuntu on the same machine? | 21:03 |
Crofton|work | cfo215, the headache is I can't dupe your issue | 21:04 |
Crofton|work | now | 21:04 |
Crofton|work | btw can you run *-gcc --version and make sure the problem is there | 21:04 |
cfo215 | Crofton, http://pastebin.com/L9Kspun1 has what I've done to troubleshoot. | 21:05 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, http://pastebin.com/L9Kspun1 has what I've done to troubleshoot. | 21:05 |
kergoth | ant_home: is that the exception / timeout issue? there's a yocto bugzilla bug for that, and a patch hit the list for it | 21:05 |
Crofton|work | I am trying to simplify | 21:05 |
Crofton|work | line 4 runs? | 21:06 |
ant_home | kergoth, thx, disappeared on second run | 21:06 |
cfo215 | yes | 21:06 |
Crofton|work | and did you try the "recommended" path | 21:07 |
kergoth | ant_home: yeah, its a local network connectivity timeout talkin to the pr server, apparently we can exceed the timeout on loaded systems | 21:07 |
kergoth | i've hit it a few times today too | 21:07 |
ant_home | yep ERROR: Can NOT get PRAUTO, exception timed out | 21:07 |
ant_home | big task is building linux-yocto | 21:08 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, I know why it works... :( '$ which make' results in /usr/bin/make | 21:08 |
Crofton|work | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -v | 21:09 |
Crofton|work | does that work? | 21:09 |
cfo215 | no. only with the hack in the pastebin. I get "error while loading shared libraries: __vdso_time: invalid mode for dlopen(): Invalid argument" otherwise. | 21:10 |
Crofton|work | ok | 21:11 |
Crofton|work | now, we need to find someone else with Ubuntu to try the same thing from an sdk from straight oe-core | 21:12 |
Crofton|work | I suspect the problem is there also | 21:12 |
Crofton|work | I jsut have no Ubuntu stuff around to try with | 21:12 |
feydrautha80 | hello guys where can i read something about sanity.conf ? | 21:12 |
cfo215 | i imagine so... the meta-qt-sdk or whatever it's called does the same. | 21:13 |
feydrautha80 | i get a complaint about my version of make ( i have 3.81 , 3.80 is needed ) | 21:13 |
Crofton|work | cfo215, the quick way to get some attention would be try an qemu of oe-core only on your machine and see if that toolchain works | 21:16 |
Crofton|work | if it fails we can but a bug in the yp bug tracker | 21:16 |
Crofton|work | my suspicion is the problem is in there somehow | 21:17 |
Crofton|work | I would do it, but I have no Ubuntu to try | 21:17 |
Crofton|work | and am going afk for a few days :) | 21:17 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, I'll try that. I also discovered this when I miss typed 'ls' in the same shell I was trying to build main.c in. http://pastebin.com/H2uNSzGk | 21:17 |
Crofton|work | basically, I am hoping the bug can be fixed in oe-core :) | 21:19 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, source envi...; MACHINE=qemuarm bitbake core-image... sorry still newb. | 21:19 |
Crofton|work | basically, clone a seperate copy of oe-core only | 21:20 |
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Crofton|work | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OE-Core_Standalone_Setup | 21:21 |
cfo215 | will do... | 21:21 |
Crofton|work | build core-image-minmal, then -c populate_sdk core-image-minimal | 21:21 |
Crofton|work | that should go fairly quick | 21:21 |
cfo215 | brb | 21:21 |
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cfo215 | Do you want me to build qemuarm or qemux86 | 21:27 |
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cfo215 | Hello bluelightning! | 21:30 |
bluelightning | hi cfo215 | 21:30 |
kspr_ | Hello. Anyone know about any Ruby on Rails recipes/layers? | 21:30 |
lpapp_ | kspr_: what is the issue at hand? | 21:31 |
kspr_ | lpapp_, no issues, really.. just searching for existing layers or recipes, before I start creating my own :) | 21:32 |
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Crofton|work | cfo215, I hope it doesn't matter :) | 21:33 |
Crofton|work | bluelightning, shouldn't you be in the pub? | 21:33 |
ndec | Crofton|work: who told you he is not in a pub ;-) | 21:34 |
bluelightning | cfo215: I feel like I ought to be | 21:34 |
bluelightning | maybe tomorrow evening | 21:34 |
lpapp_ | kspr_: meta-ruby? | 21:35 |
bluelightning | kspr_: there's only ruby itself that I know of (in meta-ruby) | 21:35 |
kspr_ | Yes, thanks, found the meta-ruby :) | 21:35 |
cfo215 | I think I'll be in Edinburg for the ELC. I'll buy you all beers then. | 21:35 |
bluelightning | \o/ | 21:36 |
cfo215 | The missus and I war going to do a working holiday. I'll work, she'll holiday ;) | 21:36 |
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cfo215 | How far to the Glenlivit factory from Edinburg? | 21:37 |
Crofton|work | damn, our local expert is not in channel atm | 21:38 |
Crofton|work | I need to go mow | 21:38 |
Crofton|work | hopefully, we can dupe the asdk issue in an oe-core environment | 21:38 |
Crofton|work | cfo215, where are you based? | 21:39 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, I'll let you know later how it goes. USA, North Carolina | 21:39 |
cfo215 | Asheville area. | 21:39 |
Crofton|work | rofl | 21:39 |
Crofton|work | Blacksburg, VA | 21:39 |
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Crofton|work | Asheville is full of Hippies | 21:40 |
cfo215 | I was just in DC over the weekend. | 21:40 |
* mranostay pokes in | 21:40 | |
Crofton|work | lovely place | 21:40 |
Crofton|work | not | 21:40 |
mranostay | someone say hippies | 21:40 |
cfo215 | I travel there about every four weeks. | 21:40 |
Crofton|work | I've spent years avoiding moving there foe work | 21:40 |
cfo215 | no doubt | 21:40 |
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mranostay | Crofton|work: what are North Carolina hippies like? | 21:41 |
Crofton|work | smelly, much like the ones everywhere | 21:41 |
Crofton|work | :) | 21:41 |
* Crofton|work rode his bike up Mt Mitchell once | 21:41 | |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, mranostay ... that's very true. | 21:42 |
Crofton|work | maybe twice | 21:42 |
cfo215 | nice | 21:42 |
carlos001_ | hello everybody! hmmm but newby question: I want to use yocto for distributing a binary as a *.deb package (this is done, working great) but I want to give the source as a tarball, is there a way to generate a tarball containing the source code, something like: bitbake perl -c tarball_create so it gets the source code, tars it, and put the tar file at the deploy directory | 21:42 |
Crofton|work | I have nothing against them :) | 21:42 |
carlos001_ | sorry for interrupt the conversation =P | 21:42 |
Crofton|work | rofl | 21:42 |
kergoth | carlos001_: see archiver.bbclass | 21:42 |
Crofton|work | heh | 21:43 |
carlos001_ | thank you! going to check it | 21:43 |
* lpapp_ always wondered when _end_ users have to check the class implementation details rather than having docs for the func | 21:43 | |
cfo215 | this may be a while... 398/1636 tasks... | 21:43 |
lpapp_ | why* | 21:44 |
Crofton|work | quick is relative :) | 21:44 |
cfo215 | very true. | 21:44 |
cfo215 | I make wine and beer so I'm used to waiting on the end product... ;-) | 21:44 |
Crofton|work | cool | 21:44 |
cfo215 | you'll have to come to our winery when we get it going. About five years out LOL. | 21:45 |
Crofton|work | davest, would be interested in that | 21:46 |
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cfo215 | I bet you know some West Virgina jokes... | 21:48 |
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Crofton|work | I've lived there also | 21:48 |
davest | cfo215: a winery in Ashville? | 21:48 |
cfo215 | I'm sorry.. lmao | 21:48 |
cfo215 | davest, winery will be in Cashiers NC. | 21:48 |
cfo215 | davest, SW of Asheville about 1 hour. | 21:49 |
davest | ah, small town NC | 21:49 |
* davest remembers the small NC towns that Mom and Dad grew up in | 21:50 | |
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cfo215 | yeah... small town surrounded by 28 gated communities... and 15 miles from Highlands... since you seem familiar with NC | 21:50 |
cfo215 | davest, what part of NC, mountains, peidmont or coast? | 21:51 |
davest | cfo215: It's been a while: Baden for Mom and Dad grew up outside Greensboro on a farm | 21:52 |
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davest | cfo215: what varietal ? | 21:52 |
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Crofton|work | btw, I'll be in deepest darkest West Va this weekend starting tomorrow, may lose the tubes | 21:53 |
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cfo215 | We've done Pinot Grigio, Merlot, Sangeovese, Cab Sav, Syrah, Reisling, some other that are escaping me at the moment. | 21:56 |
davest1 | cfo215: Interesting mix. You might have heard we do a pretty mean Pinot Noir here in Oregon. :-) | 21:57 |
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Jefro | cfo215 Glenlivet is in the highlands, bout 3 hrs drive away from Edinburgh | 21:57 |
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cfo215 | davest, Yes, I have | 21:58 |
cfo215 | Pacific Rim has a reisling we like. I think they are from there. | 21:58 |
davest | cfo215: good, best to stay away from it. It will break your heart | 21:58 |
* davest afk to see a demo of webhob | 21:59 | |
cfo215 | davest, stay away from what the Glenlivit or the Pinot Noir? | 21:59 |
cfo215 | Jefro, thank you for that. | 22:00 |
mranostay | wine talk? | 22:00 |
Jefro | everybody's wining about something around here | 22:01 |
mranostay | heh that too | 22:01 |
cfo215 | yes we're changing #yocto to #winetalk... didn't you get the memo? LOL | 22:01 |
Crofton|work | this is why RP worries about build times | 22:02 |
cfo215 | Robert Plant? LOL | 22:02 |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, normally my builds go pretty quick. But I haven't set up a shared source directory on my machine yet. | 22:03 |
cfo215 | .. so I'm having to download everything again. | 22:04 |
cfo215 | :( | 22:04 |
cfo215 | I need to RTFM to sort that out. | 22:04 |
RP | Crofton|work: I do continue to worry about build times, yes | 22:05 |
cfo215 | RP, stupid question... anyone ever think of refactoring Bitbake to be an executable instead of a python script? | 22:07 |
kergoth | you mean rewrite it in a compiled language? | 22:08 |
cfo215 | yes | 22:08 |
kergoth | it's been discussed from time to time | 22:08 |
cfo215 | I figured it had. | 22:08 |
RP | Its been more than discussed, its been attempted. | 22:09 |
RP | It turns out most of the time is spent in the finalise() python code | 22:09 |
RP | The memory resident bitbake is an attempt to massively cut down on various latencies | 22:09 |
cfo215 | Or, we could all get Crays... ;-) | 22:10 |
fray | they're usually slower then a nice dual 8-core + HT box these days.. ;) | 22:10 |
RP | So whilst rewriting it might seem like a nice idea, it is unlikely to solve the problem. There are other ways to speed it up | 22:10 |
RP | We are slowly getting faster over time | 22:11 |
cfo215 | sure, more procs, solid state drives, etc. | 22:11 |
RP | We've cut a lot of the disk IO, we filter out the fsync calls and so on | 22:11 |
RP | configure is now our single biggest problem | 22:11 |
Crofton|work | cfo edit DL_DIR to point at the same sir, just do not run two builds at once | 22:11 |
kergoth | god configure scripts are slow. try running them in qemu sometimes, its horrifying | 22:12 |
RP | kergoth: its horrific watching it in strace :( | 22:12 |
RP | Its the shear number of exec()s :( | 22:12 |
* kergoth nods | 22:12 | |
cfo215 | Crofton|work, thanks. I'll implement that. Save me some time in the long run. | 22:12 |
RP | not helped by needing to use shell lanugage that is as portable as possible | 22:12 |
RP | I've wondered if we should create our own autotools macro set | 22:13 |
RP | i.e. massively slim them down | 22:13 |
halstead | RP, I'm attempting to register an assigned port for bitbake prserv. I noticed our protocol should support versioning. | 22:14 |
halstead | RP, Should I mail bitbake-devel? | 22:14 |
RP | halstead: sounds good, yes please | 22:14 |
RP | Incidentally I should have some fixes for prserver shortly | 22:14 |
RP | its currently single threaded and causing bottlenecks | 22:14 |
Crofton|work | RP, cfo215 is trying to dupe an sdk issue he has with an sdk from Angstrom in oe-core | 22:14 |
Crofton|work | some weird thing | 22:15 |
Crofton|work | obviously, i am hoping it is an oe-core issue | 22:15 |
RP | Crofton|work: I look forward to your fixes? ;-) | 22:16 |
Crofton|work | rofl | 22:16 |
cfo215 | getting closer... 1311 of 1636 | 22:16 |
Crofton|work | I am just trying to help him get a manageble test case :) | 22:16 |
Crofton|work | if we can't use popualte_sdk to build and run sdk on ubuntu lts, I think that is an isse :) | 22:17 |
cfo215 | uname -a yields "Linux my-pc-name-here 3.5.0-39-generic #60~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 14 15:38:41 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux" if that helps. | 22:19 |
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cfo215 | Crofton|work, running bitbake -c populate_sdk core-image-minimal right now. | 22:42 |
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ant_home | RP: this evening I get arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-ld: cannot find libgcc.a: No such file or directory | 22:56 |
ant_home | any recent change ? | 22:56 |
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RP | ant_home: no, probably a build from sstate which isn't quite working properly? :/ | 22:57 |
ant_home | argh | 22:57 |
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Crofton|work | drum roll | 23:05 |
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