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mckoangood morning07:00
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bluelightningmorning all09:13
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mckoangm bluelightning, all09:20
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panda84kdemorning09:24
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panda84kdeRP: hi. I've tried your yesterday's patch: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t2&id=96dab59a53a546d5fcbeed263170c56c9b03d137 but I still have the wrong asound.conf (the one from meta-fsl-arm "mx6" folder, not the one from my own layer's "nitrogen6x" folder). My layer's recipe is: http://pastebin.com/HkrjaWKe09:29
RPpanda84kde: what does the do_unpack log say?09:29
RPpanda84kde: you had my utils.py patch applied too?09:30
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panda84kdeRP: yes, I applied them both. Will post log.do_unpack09:45
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panda84kdeRP: http://pastebin.com/eKnPv4vB In the log I have the correct order (nitrogen6x, mx6q, mx6, armv7a, arm) and it is looking for alsa-state-init, so the 2 patches are applied09:49
panda84kdeIs the order in the log relevant? If meta-fsl-arm/recipes-bsp/alsa-state/alsa-state/mx6 appears before my-layer/recipes-bsp/alsa-state/alsa-state/nitrogen6x does that mean that the asound.cond is take from meta-fsl-arm?09:51
panda84kde*taken09:51
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Krz-I have no x11 support in DISTRO_FEATURES and when doing 'bitbake world' I have errors like: ERROR: libx11 PROVIDES virtual/libx11 but was skipped: 'x11' not in DISTRO_FEATURES, ERROR: nativesdk-libx11 PROVIDES virtual/libx11 but was skipped: 'x11' not in DISTRO_FEATURES, ERROR: libx11-diet PROVIDES virtual/libx11 but was skipped: 'x11' not in DISTRO_FEATURES,ERROR: Required build target 'tk' has no buildable providers.10:42
Krz-isn't 'bitbake world' supported for x11less distros?10:43
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bluelightningKrz-: currently, world does not handle skipped recipes10:53
bluelightningKrz-: there is a bug open: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532110:53
yoctiBug 5321: normal, Undecided, ---, richard.purdie, NEW , When DISTRO_FEATURES are removed, bitbake world should still work10:53
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panda84kdebluelightning: patch we discussed for libav: http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/59479/11:25
RPpanda84kde: yes, order is important and this hints at another issue...11:26
RPbluelightning: what is your view on layer priority verses overrides?11:26
RPbluelightning: for finding files for SRC_URI11:27
RPKrz-: there are some patches in master which help11:27
RPKrz-: by no means sorted yet though11:27
RPpanda84kde: your layer is sorting after the meta-fsl-arm layer. If you change that, the order will be better11:28
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panda84kdeRP: Yeah, in fact it works forcing higher priority. However that means this FAQ is not valid in this case: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Layers_FAQ#I.27ve_bbappended_a_recipe_in_my_layer_to_replace_a_file_with_my_own_version_but_it.27s_not_being_picked_up_-_why_not.3F11:41
RPpanda84kde: it means we need to mention layer priorities too, yes :/11:57
ant_workRP: I still have this thread sticked:  http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/bitbake-devel/2011-August/001169.html  ;)12:00
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ant_workRP: last time I've asked Paul said iit is fixed now12:01
RPant_work: I was going to sat, I thought that god fixed?12:02
RPs/sat/say/12:02
ant_workRP: tbh I did not test it anymore ;)12:02
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* panda84kde didn't know god fixes bugs in Yocto12:04
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ant_workRP: there are really few cases after the heavy meta-oe cleanings12:05
ant_workpeople do notice it while adding own layers12:05
RPgah, s/god/got/ :)12:06
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beuhHi, I'm trying to write a recipe for a perl module, I use inherit cpan_build and everything build fine, but when I'm tryng to install generated rpm I have the following error:  error: Failed dependencies:  buildpath/tmp/sysroots/i686-linux/usr/bin/perl-native/perl.real is needed by PackageName12:22
RPbeuh: you have a script with that as the line at the top12:22
RPbeuh: you probably need to sed it to #!usr/bin/env perl12:23
beuhok I checking that thx12:23
ant_workRP: we use now BBCLASSEXTEND "klibc" but properly should be "klibc-static". For the recipe, the suffix "-static" is forbidden but what about class names?12:25
ant_workRP: hm... it would need custom packaging probably12:26
RPant_work: are you ever going to have non-static klibc?12:26
ant_worknope12:26
ant_workwell, not in my usecases12:27
RPant_work: I'm be tempted not to worry about it, or just call it "klibcs" or something12:28
ant_workpersonally I can live with it12:28
ant_work:)12:29
ant_workthx12:29
ant_workRP: I'll bother you after relase wrt that darned klcc-cross12:29
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aboganiHi All!12:31
aboganiIs there a way to specify version of packages included in Poky by Yocto?12:31
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bluelightningpanda84kde: thanks12:46
panda84kdebluelightning: np12:47
jackmitchellafternoon all, I want to know what package a standard python module resides in, is there an easy way of doing this?12:47
jackmitchellI looked at the python_2.7.3 recipe and it's very... dynamic12:47
jackmitchellalso is there a way to create an x86_64 sdk and an i686 sdk at the same time?12:50
jackmitchellah, I found the python module I need in the manifest file, so ignore that question12:51
bluelightningjackmitchell: not really out of the box, SDKMACHINE can only have one value12:54
jackmitchellbluelightning: np, I was just wondering if I could get out of a manual change and double run scenario12:55
bluelightningjackmitchell: easiest way to find a python module is to look in packages-split under the python workdir12:55
jackmitchellbluelightning: ah hah, that does sound like a sensible way to do it, thanks!12:55
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jackmitchellbluelightning: ok, just one more (hopefully), I want a python available to the host in an sdk, I added the python module to the image, but it is just available in the target sysroot, no the native-sdk sysroot12:58
bluelightningjackmitchell: right, in that case you'd need to add nativesdk-python-xyz to TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK13:00
jackmitchellwould I have to add nativesdk-python-compile to my image13:00
jackmitchellah ok13:00
jackmitchellbluelightning: distro.conf?13:01
jackmitchellor image.bb?13:01
bluelightningjackmitchell: depends... you could do it in the image recipe; if you do do it at a higher level you'd want to use _append and not += (since some recipes use ?= to set TOOLCHAIN_*_TASK)13:01
bluelightningin the new version of the manual that variable is even documented... :)13:02
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jackmitchellah I just searched and couldn't find it13:02
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jackmitchellhttp://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/mega-manual/mega-manual.html13:02
bluelightningwe've added a ton more variables in the 1.5 ("latest") version of the manual13:02
jackmitchelldoesn't have it, is that not the current iteration?13:02
bluelightninguntil the final release that's still the 1.4 version13:03
bluelightningreplace "current" with "latest" or "1.5"13:03
jackmitchellok, thanks13:03
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Krz-bluelightning: the bug you pointed me to says 'when DISTRO_FEATURES are removed, bitbake world should still work'13:18
Krz-bluelightning: not sure if that's my case, since I have a DISTRO_FEATURES inside image recipe...13:18
Krz-bluelightning: inside image recipe13:19
bluelightningKrz-: er, you should never set DISTRO_FEATURES in an image recipe, that can't work13:19
bluelightningDISTRO_FEATURES influences how recipes are configured/compiled, that can't be done from another recipe13:19
bluelightningit has to be done at the configuration level13:20
Krz-bluelightning: sorry, I have that in my-machine.conf, not inside image recipe13:20
bluelightninghmm, that's not really the right thing to do either13:20
Krz-bluelightning: so where should it be?13:20
bluelightningalthough it will "work"13:20
bluelightningcustom distro config13:20
Krz-bluelightning: the distro I put in conf/local.conf as a DISTRO ?13:21
bluelightningyes13:22
Krz-bluelightning: so I did put DISTRO_FEATURES to my-tiny.conf which is used in conf/local.conf -> DISTRO="my-tiny.conf", the same problem with x1113:22
Krz-bluelightning: bitbake world complains about x11 missing from DISTRO_FEATURES13:22
bluelightningyes, that is a completely separate problem, as described by the bug13:23
Krz-bluelightning: I have uclibc with some extensions in DISTRO_FEATURES, but no x1113:23
Krz-bluelightning: yeah, but the bug says 'When DISTRO_FEATURES are removed...' - how is DISTRO_FEATURES removed in my case?13:23
bluelightningx11 has been removed as compared to the default value13:23
Krz-bluelightning: ok, got it13:24
Krz-bluelightning: when could I approx. expect this to be fixed?13:24
rburtonJaMa: as you expressed interest, you may like v2 of my sanity patch: http://pastebin.com/7LCZF55Z13:25
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JaMarburton: thanks, doesn't look so bad13:31
RPKrz-: its scheduled for some time in the 1.6 cycle, probably a month or two off...13:31
RPKrz-: we do have some patches queues so I'd say sooner than later in the cycle13:31
rburtonJaMa: just core-image-sato13:31
rburtonJaMa: recipes can extend the whitelist13:31
Krz-RP: alright, great13:31
rburtonJaMa: so every *proto is fixed locally already13:32
Krz-RP: I needed bitbake world to create full repository of all possible packages that builds with our distro13:32
Krz-RP: so now I probably need to do 'bitbake package1 package2 package3 ...'13:32
Krz-RP: is there any shortcut I can do?13:32
RPKrz-: for now, you could create a /inc file containing entries like EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD_pn-xxxx = "1"13:32
Krz-RP: like use bitbake somehow and grep for non x11 recipes?13:32
rburtonKrz-: you can EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD13:33
rburtonoh, RP beat me13:33
Krz-:)13:33
rburtonmy local.conf has that for the entire qt platform, so i can do "world" builds that don't actually involve qt.13:33
RPrburton: I did wonder if qt should become a distro feature just so I can turn it off ;-)13:33
Krz-but EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD takes certain recipes, right? I cannot do 'EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD_pn-x11'13:33
frayRP -- you have my vote.. ;)13:34
rburtonKrz-: correct, you need to enumerate the full list13:34
RPKrz-: you'd have to generate a list of recipes13:34
rburtondo a world build and you get the first iteration of what needs to be added13:34
rburtonrinse, repeat13:34
Krz-RP: ok, I can just do some clever grep to figure out the list of x11 enabled recipes13:34
RPKrz-: not perfect I know but you would just have to do it once until the other changes are ready13:34
Krz-RP: yeah, I know. At this stage I don't care as long as I can build valid repository containing as much as possible13:35
Krz-they said it will be relaxed after announcement...13:35
Krz-:|13:35
RPKrz-: you believed them? ;-)13:35
rburton"after" is such a vague duration13:36
rburton:)13:36
Krz-shame on me13:36
rburtonKrz-: i generated by qt list fairly quickly, the problem can be finding that one last packagegroup which manages to hide itself from the usual introspection tools13:37
rburtonkrz-: if you reach a roadblock feel free to post your list, someone might be able to spot the missing items quickly13:38
Krz-rburton: I will be going through this in few minutes13:39
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volkerI'm currently having a strange problem with the GDB cross toolchain. I build the complete compiler and gdb-cross toolchain. When I debug an application it runs fine using global breakpoints but as soon as I do a single step it crashes the application with a segfault in ld-linux. I finally found a solution by setting the sysroot to remote:/ but I can't believe that's the only solution. show sysroot results in "/opt/msc_1.04/msc-ldk-q7-13:48
volkerimx6/sources/poky/build/tmp/sysroots/q7_imx6 " which is the correct path. Anyone has an idea what the problem might be?13:48
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Krz-rburton: let's say I have 'xdotool_1.20100416.2809'. Do I do EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD_pn-xdotool_1.20100416.2809 or EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD_pn-xdotool ?14:11
bluelightningKrz-: pn-xdotool14:12
bluelightningsince PN is "xdotool" for that recipe14:12
Krz-bluelightning: what does actually pn mean?14:13
bluelightningKrz-: in the old days it meant "package name" when we used to use the same term "package" for the recipe and the output package14:14
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panda84kdebluelightning: nowadays would "Recipe Name" fit better?14:16
bluelightningpanda84kde: that is the current meaning yes14:16
rburtonsomewhat of a API break to rename the variable now though :)14:16
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Krz-bluelightning: ok I have the list "EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD_pn-package_name = "1"14:17
Krz-bluelightning: nice VIM excercise, really valuable experience :)14:18
Krz-bluelightning: what do I do with the list now?14:18
bluelightningKrz-: if you put that in an inc file in conf/distro/include and then "require" that from your distro config14:20
bluelightningthat would be the recommended approach14:20
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Krz-nice, the list is way smaller right now, "libxpm was skipped: 'x11' not in DISTRO_FEATURES"14:23
Krz-is that the tricky thing with packagegroup now?14:23
Krz-vlc and xterm recipes want libxpm14:23
rburtonso your list needs to include libxpm, vlc and xterm14:24
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rburtonunless they're already on the list, in which case there's a packagegroup pulling them in.14:25
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jackmitchellI'm trying to add nativesdk-python-compile to my sdk14:40
jackmitchellI'm using TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK_append = " nativesdk-python-compile"14:40
jackmitchellin my distro conf14:40
jackmitchellbut opkg is complaining Unknown package 'nativesdk-python-compile'.14:41
jackmitchellhowever, I can do bitbake nativesdk-python-compile, with no problems14:41
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jackmitchellthe package is available in /home/jack/Work/oe-core.git/test-build/tmp-eglibc/work/x86_64-nativesdk-oesdk-linux/nativesdk-python/2.7.3-r0.3/deploy-ipks/x86_64-nativesdk14:43
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jackmitchelldoes anyone have a clue where this could be going wrong?14:44
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bluelightningjackmitchell: I think you want TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK_append not TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK_append14:47
bluelightningsince nativesdk-* would be the host part of the SDK14:47
jackmitchellbluelightning: well spotted! I thought I was using HOST_TASK, I must have miss-copied14:48
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sgw_The Yocto Project Tech Meeting Con-Call is starting14:59
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sgw_This call is open to all and the channel remains open to discuss any topic.14:59
sgw_YPTM: Saul is on and will be leading today.14:59
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ZagorYPTM: Björn is on the call14:59
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zeddiiYPTM: Bruce Ashfield is on the call.15:00
* rburton finally got off hold to the doctors and will dial shortly15:00
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rburtonZagor: much appreciated if you could try my gnome-desktop-testing/glib upgrade and verify that the ptest stuff still actually works!15:04
rburtonZagor: if i run run-ptest it runs the test suite, but i'm not positive the output is as expected.15:04
sgw_https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_Project_v1.5_Status15:05
Zagorrburton: could you post a paste? I'm swamped at work for the moment.15:05
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AlexGYPTM: AlexG on the call15:06
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jzhang-laptopYPTM: jzhang on the call15:07
rburtonZagor: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/log/?h=ross/upgrades, you'll need gnome-desktop-testing and glib-2.0.15:08
scottrifRP:  I have some pushes to yocto-docs/master that should go to poky15:09
Zagorrburton: right, I meant a paste of the output so I can take a quick look at the output. I won't have time to try a full gnome build for a while, I'm afraid.15:09
RPscottrif: thanks15:10
rburtonZagor: ah, sure.15:10
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rburtonsgw_: it's "edin-bruhh" :)15:12
RPAny volunteers?15:13
Crofton|workI'm not volunteering for anything15:14
sgw_Just to be clear RP is asking for 1.5 Stable Maintainer Volunteer!15:14
RPCrofton|work: well volunteered :)15:14
Crofton|workI am over volunteered15:14
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sgw_Bug #513315:17
yoctiBug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5133 normal, Medium+, 1.5 M5, laurentiu.palcu, ACCEPTED , [Test Case 207] sudoku-savant project compile in sdk image15:17
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RPhalstead: great work, thanks! :)15:21
halsteadThank you RP.15:21
bluelightningsgw_: poky-contrib paule/dylan-next15:24
rburtonZagor: http://pastebin.com/Ed6aA5jt15:29
rburtonZagor: 3 fails, wish it was easier to find them!15:30
rburtonah, grep "failed"15:30
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Zagorrburton: that looks pretty good15:34
Zagorone point for discussion might be why there are two result formats: "test: OK" and "PASS: testsuite"15:35
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Zagorin earlier such cases we have chosen to reformat the fine-grained results to also show PASS/FAIL so we can parse and count them individually15:36
RPpidge: build should be good to go15:37
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rburtonZagor: colin walters was excited when i said i'd just enabled installed-tests in our ptest stuff and is very willing to hear our feedback.15:37
rburtonZagor: i said i'm sure you'll get in touch at some point15:37
Zagor:)15:38
Zagorwhere did you talk to him? gnome mailing list?15:39
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rburtonZagor: that was just a private mail15:41
Zagorok15:41
Krz-rburton: I have this error now: ERROR: Required build target 'packagegroup-self-hosted' has no buildable providers.15:50
Krz-Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['packagegroup-self-hosted', 'eglibc-utils']15:50
Krz-rburton: I'm using uclibc image and everything else I belive right now is on my 'exclude_from_world.inc' list15:51
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rburtonKrz-: just adding that packagegroup to the exclude-from-world list should solve that15:54
rburton*should*15:54
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pidgeRP: ok, tagging and bagging16:24
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JaMaIs it possible to explicitly add dependency on some native task in target recipe without using my own SignatureGenerator ?16:38
frayDEPENDS += "myapp-native"16:38
JaMaRP: ^ you'll probably know16:38
JaMafray: that's now what I'm asking16:38
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JaMafray: OEBasic and OEBasicHash generators aren't crossing cross/native boundary16:39
mr_sciencemoin16:39
JaMafray: in this case I need exception to include hash of native task in target task signature16:39
RPJaMa: you'd have to customise it16:41
JaMaok, thanks16:42
RPJaMa: we should probably make it configurable16:42
JaMayeah I was thinking about adding new SIGGEN_* variable16:43
JaMabut for now I'll probably convert that native component to target one (it will be easier for me in dylan build, than adding new SignatureGenerator now)16:44
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RPJaMa: fair enough on both. The native/target split was rather arbitrary, its just worked well enough for now...16:46
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evanpJaMa: if I understand what you're talking about correctly, I ran into the same problem and have a patch I've been using locally17:26
JaMaevanp: can you share that patch?17:28
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JaMaat least to confirm that you have solution for master (I've already fixed it in our build by changing the component from native to allarch)17:29
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evanpJaMa: it doesn't cherry-pick cleanly onto master, but the conflicts look familiar. I'm pretty sure I looked at master before and wasn't worried about the forward-port.17:33
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bluelightningmr_science: morning17:36
bluelightningmr_science: btw, would you be able to send that patch for the nginx addition in meta-webserver?17:36
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evanpJaMa: give me a day or two and I'll port it, get the corporate paperwork in order, and submit it to the list17:38
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JaMaevanp: ok, thanks17:38
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mr_sciencebluelightning: sure, but i need to extract it from my meta-rpi layer17:42
bluelightningmr_science: that would be awesome if you have time17:43
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mr_sciencewhere do you want it?17:43
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bluelightningmr_science: ideally it should be sent as a patch to add to the meta-openembedded repository under the meta-webserver directory and marked with [meta-webserver] in the subject line17:47
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mr_sciencebluelightning: "sent" meaning to the mailing list?17:51
bluelightningyes17:51
mr_scienceor can i add it to a bug?17:51
bluelightninghttp://www.openembedded.org/wiki/How_to_submit_a_patch_to_OpenEmbedded in case you haven't seen it17:51
mr_scienceseen, but not done it yet...17:51
bluelightningbbl17:57
mr_scienceokay, should do this from home with a non-work email, etc18:01
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seebsLong ago, I got to asking about the ar and strings symlinks in binutils. In our local tree, we eventually migrated to moving all the binutils things into update-alternatives, even the ones for which there might not be any competing packages, because this provided consistent behavior and let people use the short names without having to install the extra binutils-symlinks package.18:50
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seebsDoes anyone have any objections to a change like that to the binutils recipe? I think the resulting recipe is nicer and has fewer odd special cases.18:51
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seebs(I believe the reason those two ended up as special cases is that busybox has implementations.)18:51
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seebsGiven the overwhelming outcry from the very many people who apparently have a significant investment in the state of binutils and whether it's using symlinks or alternatives, I'm testing out the change and will submit it at some point, possibly later today if testing goes well.20:02
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ftonelloJaMa: hey Martin.. I don't know if you noticed but this commit in meta-oe is unnecessary: 13f540c5a98d3a64b41117db9cf554956eebafe921:09
ftonellodo you want me to send a revert patch to it?21:09
JaMaftonello: no, sorry I haven't noticed, the queue with patches was quite long (after so long build) so it's possible that I've overlooked it21:13
JaMayes please send revert21:13
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JaMaftonello: now I see your own reply on the patch, sorry that I've missed that21:15
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ftonelloJaMa: ok :)21:22
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kergothsometimes i think a LAYERRECOMMENDS would be useful22:43
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mranostayhmm is there  any target is using EFI stub?23:08
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sgw_khem: ping23:21
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dnQemu is having problems with the size of my generated ramdisk, has anyone seen this problem?23:31
-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #301 of nightly-oecore is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-oecore/builds/30123:52
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