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| RP | Crofton|work: no ;-) | 07:07 |
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| elbc | rburton: hi ! | 07:48 |
| rburton | hi elbc | 07:50 |
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| elbc | rburton: I'm able to launch a core-image-weston with wayland/weston 1.3.0 but to do this, I had to remove weston-examples for core-image-weston.bb and to modify the init script of weston-init (because systemd was not able to execute the weston command but can only execute the weston-launch -u user command) . so my question is : what do I have to push exactly for patching ? | 07:51 |
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| rburton | elbc: the weston 1.3 release notes says that that there's a new option for installing examples | 08:00 |
| elbc | rburton: just the commit relating to weston and wayland .bb files or do I have to push my changes for the init script and for the core-image-weston.bb file, I aske because it is a little confusing for me | 08:00 |
| elbc | ok I'll take a look | 08:00 |
| elbc | rburton: and for the init script ? | 08:00 |
| rburton | feel free to send me everything you have as patches and i'll sort through it | 08:01 |
| elbc | ok thanks ! | 08:01 |
| zaif | rburton: what is the similar of ~/oe/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/ in Yocto? | 08:02 |
| elbc | rburton: where did you found the 1.3.0 notes ? | 08:02 |
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| elbc | rburton: did you find sorry | 08:03 |
| zaif | rburon: I was following this link(https://pixhawk.ethz.ch/tutorials/omap/dsplink) for dsp and it says to save the downloaded files in /recipes | 08:04 |
| rburton | elbc: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2013-October/011419.html | 08:05 |
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| ant_work | rburton: hi there | 08:08 |
| ant_work | rburton: do you remember we talked about qvga? I discovered I lacked a remote MACHINE_FEATURE qvga used by sato. | 08:09 |
| ant_work | rburton: oh, and about formfactor, do you remember where are/were used DISPLAY_DPI and DISPLAY_SUBPIXEL_ORDER ? | 08:10 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 08:15 |
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| rburton | ant_work: my hunch is those were only used by kdrive | 08:22 |
| ant_work | as I suspected | 08:23 |
| ant_work | is there any possible future use wrt DPI / aliasing? Can we remove that vars and have the PPI calculated on the fly? | 08:24 |
| ant_work | the sibling question is: do we still need to provide an xorg.conf or is now automagically recreated? | 08:24 |
| rburton | ant_work: xserver doesn't need xorg.conf | 08:25 |
| ant_work | (sorry, I'm not up to-date, I don't spend any time in userland nowadays...) | 08:25 |
| ant_work | aha | 08:25 |
| rburton | ant_work: it can auto-detect all HW so you only need it if you have stupid drivers (EMGD...) or need to override specific options | 08:25 |
| ant_work | ok | 08:26 |
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| zaif | rburton: Hi, | 08:27 |
| zaif | I was following this link(https://pixhawk.ethz.ch/tutorials/omap/dsplink) for dsp and it says to save the downloaded files in /recipes, what is the similar of ~/oe/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/ in Yocto? | 08:27 |
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| rburton | zaif: if it's saying to use recipes/ then it's quite likely the recipe will need to be ported anyway | 08:32 |
| rburton | zaif: but oe-classic recipes/ is just anywhere in a recipes- directory in yocto systems | 08:33 |
| ant_work | rburton: I guess we needed xorg.conf for i.e. Option "Rotate" "CW" | 08:34 |
| ant_work | rburton: this should take DISPLAY_ORIENTATION | 08:35 |
| rburton | ant_work: is it machine-specific? then a machine-specific config fragment in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/rotate-display.conf would make just as much sense. | 08:35 |
| zaif | rburton: do I need to save the downloaded files in ~/yocto/build/downloads? and bitbake it? | 08:36 |
| ant_work | rburton: heh, I fear tehre are different layers of dust to clean here... | 08:36 |
| rburton | zaif: if by downloaded files you mean sources, i guess so | 08:36 |
| * rburton -> get dressed | 08:37 | |
| rburton | i only walked by to turn the computer on | 08:37 |
| zaif | rburton: ok | 08:37 |
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| zaif | Hi all, After adding meta-ti to bblayers.conf, i get no recipes available error for these recipes: mesa_git.bbappend, mesa_9.1.6.bbappend, init-ifupdown_1.0.bbappend | 09:25 |
| zaif | added this path: require yocto/poky/meta-ti/recipes-graphics/mesa-omap3-common.inc | 09:25 |
| zaif | where am I doing wrong? | 09:26 |
| rburton | those are in oe-core, so you must have accidently deleted meta/ from your bblayers.conf | 09:27 |
| zaif | rburton: no meta\ exists in my bblayers.conf. | 09:28 |
| rburton | that's the problem then | 09:29 |
| rburton | are you using poky, or oe-core+bitbake, or what? | 09:29 |
| zaif | i meant yes, the meta\ exists in bblayers.conf | 09:32 |
| zaif | i am using poky | 09:32 |
| zaif | sorry for the confusion | 09:32 |
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| rburton | so then I predict you are using an old release of poky, but meta-ti from git master. | 09:39 |
| zaif | rbuton: I built poky from github(https://github.com/gumstix/Gumstix-YoctoProject-Repo), 1 week ago, deleted meta-ti and added meta-ti separately from http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-ti/ | 09:43 |
| rburton | zaif: that's a rather old poky release | 09:44 |
| rburton | the release was called danny, so you want to use the danny branch of meta-ti | 09:44 |
| rburton | though why did you delete and re-add meta-ti? | 09:44 |
| zaif | before building meta-ti, i thought if i clone the latest then it will be updated | 09:45 |
| zaif | rburton: gumstix-yoctoproject-repo is old? or meta-ti is old? | 09:47 |
| rburton | gumstix-yoctoproject-repo is pulling an old release of poky | 09:47 |
| rburton | and presumably a matching meta-ti | 09:47 |
| rburton | if you want a newer meta-ti then you'll want to update poky to match. | 09:48 |
| zaif | where can I pull the updated/latest version of poky? | 09:49 |
| zaif | from yocto website? | 09:50 |
| rburton | the poky directory that repo created is a clone from yocto. do a fetch in there | 09:53 |
| rburton | then you can checkout either origin/dora (about to be released) or origin/dylan (latest release), checking out the same branch in meta-ti | 09:53 |
| pev | Morning all! Is there a quick and dirty way in yocto to enable sparse? | 09:53 |
| pev | And is anyone going to the Edinburgh do? I'm considering heading up! | 09:54 |
| zaif | rbuton: ok. Thank You. no recipes available error was solved when i added meta-ti from danny(I am using poky-danny). I will do the fetch. | 09:55 |
| rburton | zaif: if you have no reason to use master, then danny should work. | 09:55 |
| rburton | and if that's what gumstix recommend, i'd stick with it | 09:55 |
| zaif | rburton: ok | 09:55 |
| rburton | pev: lots are heading to edinburgh, as there's a yocto developer day there | 09:55 |
| pev | Ace... hopefully will make it - will buy you a pint :-) | 09:56 |
| pev | I was looking at the schedule and thinking I ought to do the "Yocto for dummys" track :-D | 10:03 |
| beuh | hello, is it possible to include file from another layer in a recipe in my custom layer? | 10:10 |
| bluelightning | beuh: http://www.openembedded.org/Layers_FAQ#How_do_I_include_an_inc_file_from_another_layer.3F | 10:14 |
| beuh | bluelightning, thanks | 10:15 |
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| pev | So anyway... original question : Is sparse (or any other static analysis tool) already integrated into Yocto and easy to just enable or do i need to use them manually, I guess via devshell? | 10:53 |
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| pev | Hm, I've got a bbappend that I'm using in my layer to override some kernel defconfig settings from the base layer but for some reason some of the CONFIG_ vars I want to unset don't get unset...? Any ideas or suggestions of directions to look for working examples to see if I've done something obviously silly? | 11:13 |
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| maxin | Hi, can somebody please tell why compiling a static binary with x86 toolchain (SDK created by -c populate_sdk) fails ? | 11:16 |
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| maxin | this is the failure log while compiling a simple hello world program as static: http://pastebin.com/2QKzRyQ7 | 11:18 |
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| RP | maxin: do you have the staticdev packages installed? | 12:29 |
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| RP | maxin: looks like its missing libc.a | 12:29 |
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| maxin | RP: sorry, I was out. Thanks! I will check it | 12:57 |
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| maxin | RP: that did the trick . Thank you very much ! | 13:10 |
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| RP | maxin: great :) | 13:14 |
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| maxin | RP: most of the cross tool-chains support static linking as a default option. Can we do the same for Yocto toolchain as well ? | 13:16 |
| Daemon404 | considering static linking doesnt work at all on some of the toolchains... | 13:18 |
| Daemon404 | <_< | 13:18 |
| Daemon404 | (im looking at you uclibc toolchain) | 13:18 |
| RP | maxin: Its easy enough to include, it just makes the tarballs a lot bigger and in reality not many people use it | 13:20 |
| maxin | Daemon404: RP: ok. In that case, can we document this behavior somewhere ? | 13:21 |
| Daemon404 | well... | 13:21 |
| RP | maxin: I'm sure Scott would love a patch to the manual :) | 13:22 |
| Daemon404 | at one point it worked | 13:22 |
| Daemon404 | then it didnt | 13:22 |
| Daemon404 | maybe it works now | 13:22 |
| Daemon404 | We Shall See | 13:22 |
| Daemon404 | any documentation would have to probably be a table of "which libcs play nice statically with yocto" | 13:22 |
| Daemon404 | i think. | 13:22 |
| RP | Daemon404: uclibc should work but it isn't used by as many people so it sees less exposure :/ | 13:23 |
| Daemon404 | i know | 13:24 |
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| Daemon404 | i used to have a yocto uclibc buildbot for us (libav/ffmpeg) | 13:24 |
| Daemon404 | ill check if it works and/or fix it... bring it back | 13:24 |
| Daemon404 | s/buildbot/regression testing and buildbot/ | 13:24 |
| maxin | RP: will send an update :) Daemon404: I generally don't use uclibc (though used it for a project in the past) | 13:25 |
| Daemon404 | ive used it to easy binary pushes in various situations in the past | 13:25 |
| Daemon404 | i know its evil... | 13:25 |
| Daemon404 | but glibc is more evil | 13:26 |
| Daemon404 | btw a request for faq entry: how on earth do you pronounce "poky" | 13:33 |
| Daemon404 | pocky or pokey? | 13:33 |
| bluelightning | Daemon404: the former | 13:33 |
| bluelightning | it's definitely a FAQ :) | 13:33 |
| Daemon404 | when i interned at WRS, nobody seemed to know. | 13:34 |
| bluelightning | I'm pretty sure Mark, Jeff and Jason know how to pronounce it at least :) | 13:36 |
| bluelightning | and Bruce as well | 13:36 |
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| gschmottlach | In the Yocto kernel dev guide it mentions you can create a kernel "fragment" file which you can use to change a subset of the kernel configuration file. It seems to imply that you use this to "enable" certain options. What's not clear is if you can use the same mechanism to "disable" a kernel configuration item? | 13:41 |
| gschmottlach | Do the kernel "fragment" files allow you to turn-off an option that's enabled the the defconfig? | 13:42 |
| bluelightning | gschmottlach: you can, it just needs to do: # CONFIG_SOME_VALUE is not set | 13:42 |
| ant_work | maxin: if it is for a few binaries consider klibc | 13:42 |
| bluelightning | gschmottlach: (just as with a full config) | 13:43 |
| jackmitchell | having a quick browse through DISTRO/MACHINE_FEATURES is seems as though ext3 is specificed in a tune file, but is never used anywhere, ext2 exists and is used, but not ext3. Does anyone have any light to shed on this? | 13:44 |
| maxin | ant_work: thanks. Haven't looked into klibc yet. here, the project requires static linking for c and c++ projects and the first toolchain version was based on eglibc.. | 13:44 |
| gschmottlach | Okay, so effectively the fragment file almost has the same syntax a a regular kernel config file . . . but just contains those options you want to tweak (either enable or disable), right? | 13:45 |
| bluelightning | gschmottlach: correct | 13:45 |
| gschmottlach | Thanks for the help | 13:46 |
| ant_work | gschmottlach: the syntax is the same, not almost ;) | 13:46 |
| gschmottlach | perfect . . . thank you. | 13:47 |
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| sce | dear all i'm facing an issue with mp3 decoder on imx6q board, i found this https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4449 | 13:49 |
| yocti | Bug 4449: normal, Medium, 1.5, daiane.angolini, RESOLVED FIXED, GStreamer mp3 playback on Nitrogen6X - seg faults | 13:49 |
| sce | but i dont know what is MM | 13:49 |
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| rburton | does anyone have a uclibc machine with sdk they can run a five-line C program on? | 14:05 |
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| Daemon404 | http://pastebin.com/ZzEHH18v <-- is this intentional? | 14:07 |
| Daemon404 | meta-toolchain has a hard dep on eglibc? | 14:07 |
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| bluelightning | Daemon404: hmm, how did you select uclibc? | 14:12 |
| Daemon404 | $ tail -2 conf/local.conf | 14:13 |
| Daemon404 | TARGET_OS="linux-uclibc" | 14:13 |
| Daemon404 | POKLIBC="uclibc" | 14:13 |
| Daemon404 | ... too bad i typo'd POKY | 14:13 |
| * Daemon404 facedesk | 14:13 | |
| Daemon404 | oh | 14:13 |
| Daemon404 | doesnt matter. still fails the same. | 14:13 |
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| Daemon404 | looks like i needed TCLIBC | 14:16 |
| Daemon404 | didnt see it in the docs | 14:16 |
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| bluelightning | Daemon404: right, TCLIBC is the way to set it | 14:22 |
| bluelightning | Daemon404: you don't need to set TARGET_OS, that will be set automatically from TCLIBC | 14:22 |
| bluelightning | (TCLIBC replaced POKYLIBC about 3 or 4 releases ago I think) | 14:22 |
| Daemon404 | i simply followed the poky handbook (which is the only thing google ever returns for poky documentation | 14:24 |
| Daemon404 | which mentions TARGET_OS but not TCLIBC | 14:24 |
| bluelightning | gah, we really must kill that document | 14:24 |
| bluelightning | it is positively ancient | 14:24 |
| Daemon404 | perhaps make it more clear *where* the proper document is | 14:25 |
| Daemon404 | its very non-obviou | 14:25 |
| Daemon404 | s | 14:25 |
| bluelightning | the current documentation is always available from here: http://www.yoctoproject.org/documentation | 14:25 |
| Daemon404 | i see | 14:25 |
| Daemon404 | handbook dominates search results | 14:25 |
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| Daemon404 | .. i still cant find te poky documents off what you linked | 14:27 |
| Daemon404 | it's a maze of lines | 14:27 |
| Daemon404 | that leads nowhere | 14:27 |
| Daemon404 | s/lines/links/ | 14:27 |
| bluelightning | there is no specific "Poky" manual anymore; the main manuals are the Yocto Project Reference Manual and the Yocto Project Development Manual | 14:27 |
| Daemon404 | there it is... | 14:28 |
| Daemon404 | TCLIBC | 14:28 |
| Daemon404 | Specifies which variant of the GNU standard C library (libc) to use during the build process. This variable replaces POKYLIBC, which is no longer supported. | 14:28 |
| rburton | (which is why the old docs keep on appearing - the current documentation is for Yocto, not Poky) | 14:28 |
| Daemon404 | well this is just downright incorrect | 14:28 |
| Daemon404 | now all of the libc are gnu | 14:28 |
| bluelightning | where the former is a reference for specific variables/classes/features and the latter is more of a task-oriented guide on how to accomplish things | 14:28 |
| Daemon404 | rburton, yes but yocto != poky | 14:28 |
| Daemon404 | which is my point | 14:28 |
| Daemon404 | yocto is a superset | 14:29 |
| rburton | sure, that's my point too | 14:29 |
| rburton | i wasn't are tclibc was a GNU project these days | 14:29 |
| Daemon404 | tclibc is a local.conf var | 14:29 |
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| Daemon404 | set to eglibc or uclibc | 14:29 |
| bluelightning | Poky is the reference build system for the Yocto Project; but information given in the Yocto Project manuals also applies to other systems that are based on the Yocto Project | 14:29 |
| Daemon404 | latter sure isnt gnu. | 14:29 |
| bluelightning | then we should correct that, I'd have to agree | 14:30 |
| Daemon404 | wouldn't OE and bitbake be the reference | 14:30 |
| Daemon404 | poky is listed as a yocto project. | 14:31 |
| Daemon404 | not a "reference" | 14:31 |
| Daemon404 | it has it's own site too. with incorrect docs. | 14:31 |
| Daemon404 | its* | 14:31 |
| Daemon404 | yocto even links to it in some areas. | 14:31 |
| Daemon404 | it's all a bit schizophrenic | 14:31 |
| rburton | Daemon404: please report any links from yocto to poky you find - they should have all been destroyed | 14:31 |
| rburton | and the pokylinux site is up for historical purposes, really. | 14:31 |
| rburton | some products have only just stopped using pre-yocto poky, believe it or not. | 14:32 |
| Daemon404 | https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects/poky | 14:32 |
| Daemon404 | it links directly to it | 14:32 |
| Daemon404 | and thats is linked directly from tools/resources | 14:33 |
| rburton | Daemon404: right, but nothing likes from the front page of the poky site to the old poky docs | 14:34 |
| rburton | ah, the quick start link goes to a really old version of the yocto docs | 14:34 |
| Daemon404 | yes | 14:35 |
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| bluelightning | FWIW, I am going to ensure that the old manual is replaced with a link to the new documentation | 14:35 |
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| rburton | bluelightning: hopefully that will help the current docs google-juice | 14:36 |
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| Daemon404 | ;) | 14:37 |
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| Daemon404 | RP, tested... static uclibc linking works again in poky git master | 15:02 |
| Daemon404 | cheers. | 15:02 |
| RP | Daemon404: good to know :) | 15:08 |
| * Daemon404 ponders on ressurrecting his tilera toolchain or not... likely not due to lack of available hw or emulators | 15:09 | |
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| Daemon404 | i spoke too soon | 15:19 |
| Daemon404 | libc.a and libpthread.a have overlapping symbols | 15:20 |
| Daemon404 | they both define __errno_location | 15:20 |
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| Daemon404 | http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/280399/ | 15:22 |
| Daemon404 | speak of the devi. | 15:22 |
| Daemon404 | devil* | 15:22 |
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| rburton | elbc: somewhat confused how you made weston compile, unless you edited your sysroot manually | 15:36 |
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| scottrif | halstead: ping | 15:37 |
| halstead | Hi scottrif | 15:37 |
| scottrif | halstead: hi - issue with links... I will switch to private messaging | 15:37 |
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| khem | RP: any idea about mulitlib regression reported here https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5333 | 17:19 |
| yocti | Bug 5333: major, Medium, 1.5.1, laurentiu.palcu, NEW , meta-toolchain: no package provides libc6 >= 2.18 when multilib enabled | 17:19 |
| khem | RP: I am seeing the same on ppc64/x86_64 as well on 1.5 | 17:19 |
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| zaif | Hi all, Does capturing Images using opencv with GUI works on gumstix-console-image? or should I do capture without GUI? | 17:26 |
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| mr_science | bluelightning: i updated the nginx recipe but i got lost yesterday building a gnat bootstrap for arm | 17:32 |
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| dbox | All of the documentation links on yoctoproject.org are broken. | 18:17 |
| dbox | Most of the links at https://www.yoctoproject.org/documentation/current redirect to the same page. | 18:24 |
| sgw_ | halstead: ^^^^ | 18:28 |
| * sgw_ off to swim | 18:32 | |
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| zaif | unable to get yocto documentation? all links ref to https://www.yoctoproject.org/documentation/current | 18:42 |
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| rburton | zaif: works for me? | 18:43 |
| rburton | oh! | 18:44 |
| rburton | it doesn't | 18:44 |
| rburton | how odd | 18:44 |
| zaif | rburton:ya. searching for getting started manual. | 18:44 |
| rburton | zaif: you can checkout yocto-docs and build it yourself until its fixed | 18:45 |
| rburton | just prodded scott, or maybe it's something halstead needs to fix | 18:45 |
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| zaif | rburton. now working | 18:46 |
| scottrif | halstead: ping | 18:46 |
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| scottrif | halstead: The links on the http://www.yoctoproject.org/documentation page are not working correctly. Something we did to fix that google search stuff made them not work. Try going to the doc landing page, clicking on "view all" for current, and then clicking on any particular manual. You are taken back to the landing page rather than having the manual open up. | 18:52 |
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| khem | RP: I have tried http://pastebin.com/3qPWqtWU for bug #5333 | 19:17 |
| yocti | Bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5333 major, Medium, 1.5.1, laurentiu.palcu, NEW , meta-toolchain: no package provides libc6 >= 2.18 when multilib enabled | 19:17 |
| khem | but no use | 19:17 |
| halstead | scottrif, sgw_ I'll get it fixed. | 19:21 |
| halstead | scottrif, sgw_ Bad regex repaired. | 19:22 |
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| halstead | dbox, Doc redirects are fixed. Thanks! | 19:26 |
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| dbox | great, thank you | 19:31 |
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| scottrif | halstead: thanks! | 19:47 |
| halstead | Any time. | 19:47 |
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| sgw_ | seebs: around? There might be some minor issues with your binutils alternatives patches | 20:16 |
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| seebs | I am around. And I wouldn't be surprised if there were; they have so-far worked for us, but I could have missed stuff. | 20:22 |
| sgw_ | seebs: ld.gold and embedspu did not exist, also your patch synopsis don't have the right format (binutils: ....) | 20:24 |
| seebs | The ld.gold and embedspu thing is a Known Issue which I don't know how to correct: Both *could* exist, but may not *always* exist. | 20:25 |
| seebs | The symlink thing can do this by just creating simlinks for whatever ends up existing, but I can't see a way to do conditional-alternatives. | 20:26 |
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| seebs | So, if there is a reasonable mechanism for making the alternatives stuff handle embedspu and ld.gold, I'd be interested in updating it. But I couldn't find one; I don't see any easy way to tell in advance whether the package will produce those. | 20:40 |
| sgw_ | seebs: I will take a look also, I can't think of one off the top of my head, but we can't have the warnings. | 20:41 |
| seebs | It might make sense to just not give WARNINGS for an absent alternative in some cases. | 20:41 |
| fray | you should be able to figure out if those two items are going to exist "early" | 20:42 |
| fray | the gold thing I thought was based on a configure argument.. | 20:42 |
| fray | and I suspect the embedspu is also based on an arch flag or something | 20:42 |
| seebs | It might be. Part of the problem is, if there is a definite rule for when they get created, I don't know it... I've never actually seen embedspu, I'm not even sure it ever happens. | 20:43 |
| fray | just have to put into the python chunk if <condition> ld.gold .... if <condition> embedspu | 20:44 |
| seebs | Yeah. But I don't have any clue what the conditions are. I've never seen either get generated... | 20:45 |
| sgw_ | seebs, this was with a world build with qemumips | 20:46 |
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| seebs | Pretty sure embedspu is for Cell, so it's probably a rare subset of powerpc. We might well be able to just completely ignore it and assume no one will ever care. | 20:47 |
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| RP | khem: not looked at that one yet... | 21:20 |
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