Tuesday, 2013-10-22

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tlwoernerkmacleod: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Build_Performance03:10
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GusBrickercan anyone explain how the require keyword works?03:46
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kergothit includes a file, adn fails if the file doesn't exist. 'include' will silently proceed if the file is missing04:23
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draskoHi all. How to add a flag to CFLAGS to bitbake? I am trying CFLAGS += "-std=c99" in my .bb file but it is not working10:35
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jackmitchelldrasko: EXTRA_OEMAKE maybe, look in the yocto manual for that10:41
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g0hl1nHi, I've sent a patch for psplash to the yocto mailing list some weeks ago, but nobody replied or applied it. So I'd like to know if I sent it to the wrong mailing list or if it was just ignored. Thanks for the help ;-)10:59
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jackmitchellg0hl1n: reply to your message with a ping. This week is going to be slow though as many developers are out of town at conferences11:10
jackmitchellHowever, if it is for the psplash recipe in meta, then I suggest you send it to the oecore mailing list11:10
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g0hl1n<jackmitchell> thanks for your answer. No it's for the psplash sources (not the recipe). Is the yocto mailinglist still correct in this case?11:16
draskojackmitchell, EXTRA_OEMAKE += "'CFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -std=c99'" gives no effect neither11:17
kbartWhere can I get reference of possible QT_CONFIG_FLAGS?11:20
jackmitchelldrasko: maybe your makefile is overriding the cflags11:20
jackmitchellg0hl1n: where are the psplash sources sorted?11:20
jackmitchellsorry, stored, not sorted11:20
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draskojackmitchell, maybe. It is generated with clake, so I use inherit pkgconfig cmake11:21
draskobut there are a lot of flags added from Yocto11:22
kbartAh, nvm. Stupid me, these come from Qt install, not OE specific.11:22
pagioshello all, i am new to yocto reading the quickguide, do i have to install gawk texinfo chrpath libsdl1.2-dev as prerequisite? my intension is to develop a headless arm application on my linux x86 computer11:22
g0hl1n<jackmitchell> in the yoctoproject's git. cgit is available here: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/psplash/11:23
pagiospoky == yocto?11:27
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jackmitchelldrasko: ah there is a special cmake flag11:39
jackmitchelldrasko: EXTRA_OECMAKE11:40
jackmitchellg0hl1n: yes, yocto mailing list is correct hen11:40
jackmitchellg0hl1n: I would just reply to your original email with a ping to remind whoever deals with that11:40
jackmitchellpagios: yes I think those are host tools that are required11:41
jackmitchellpagios: poky is the default distro used in the Yocto provided meta layer11:41
jackmitchellso poky != yocto, but poky is part of the Yocto Project11:42
pagiosif i have an x86 program X that depends on libraries A,B,C and i need to cross compile that program X to ARM, do i need to also cross compile the libraries of that program too on my x86 machine and then copy Libraries and Program into ARM? or will yocto handle cross compiling the x86 libraries into ARM?11:42
g0hl1njackmitchell: Thanks!11:43
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jackmitchellpagios: if the library recipes are present in the buildsystem and recipe specifies them as depends, then yes, they will be built automatically11:44
pagiosjackmitchell: dealing with gstreamer dunno if recipe is there11:45
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jackmitchellpagios: there is, just take a look12:04
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* fray has made it to the UK.. they even let me in. :)13:07
jackmitchellfray: hooray! are you attending the Yocto Dev Day?13:08
frayyes, I'm giving a talk on our (Wind Rivers') Yocto Project commercialization experience.. (and no it's not a sales pitch)..13:12
fraytopic is "Yocto Project Continuous Integration"13:12
fraybasically explaining from an OSV point of view the two types of integration we see, and what we ended up doing and why.. then ending with some recommendations for device manufacterers, semi's, ISVs, etc..13:12
frayI should arrive in Edinburgh some time around 19:0013:13
jackmitchellfray: fantastic, I will see you there then; I've got a 6 hour train journey in a few hours, the joy :D13:13
fray(sitting at Heathrow right now)13:13
jackmitchellah you;re going London -> Edinburgh now13:13
frayI'm finally cooling down.. it's really warm and humid in the terminal..13:13
jackmitchellmake the most of it, it'll be cool in Edinburg ;)13:14
frayfeels like it's 30C (85F) in here...  I came from Minneapolis where it was 4 C (40F)13:14
frayI'm looking forward to the cool.. ;)13:14
jackmitchellah, not that cool I don't think!13:14
frayit was still a bit warmer in Edinburgh then MSP13:14
jackmitchell7c - 10c I would imagine13:14
fraythats what I planned for.. ;)13:15
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abellonihey guys, my plane is landing wednesday afternoon so I won't be able to attend the Yocto Dev Day, can someone get a tshirt for me ?13:22
abelloni(if there are tshirts obviously ;) )13:22
abelloniI wear the ones from barcelona every week, they are much better than the one from elce13:22
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frayI never got one of the Barcelona shirts.....13:25
frayI've got all of my YP shirts saved up so far, I'm going to frame them and hang them at the office.. (just have to find the time to do it)13:25
frayit's getting warm in the terminal again.. yeesh..13:27
draskoHi all... I do not know how to pass CFLAGS through my .bb recipe13:28
draskoI tried EXTRA_OEMAKE += "'CFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -std=c99'"13:28
draskothat had no effect13:29
kmacleodfray, do you slides for your talk posted yet, or will that be after?13:29
frayall depends on the makefile..  you should cehck the run files and make sure the make call has the cflags in it..13:29
frayI've got two talks.. one DevDay and one ELC-E..  I've sent htem both up to the organizers.. (Jefro and LF)13:29
frayI know Jefro said he was going to post the DevDay talks "soon".. but I don't know if that meant today or tomorrow..13:30
fray(and for once I'm not making last minute edits to presentations.. I actually finished them all last week)  ;)13:30
draskofray, I am actually using cmake13:31
frayI don't know in that case, sorry..13:31
frayyou may have to do something special for cmake13:31
draskoand I just fugured out that EXTRA_OECMAKE  should be used13:31
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draskouh, actually no..13:35
draskoEXTRA_OECMAKE passes flags to cmake13:35
draskoduring Makefile generation13:35
draskobut it does not pass flags to make that is using generated Makefile13:36
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tobiashdrasko: you could have a look into the CMakeLists.txt files13:59
tobiashby default cmake obeys the CFLAGS variable, but this can be overridden in the cmakelists13:59
draskotobiash, yes, but that would say that it does not permit EXTRA_OECMAKE?14:00
draskoOnly CMAKE_C_FLAGS?14:00
tobiashEXTRA_OECMAKE is given as argument to the cmake call14:01
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draskoNot really...14:01
draskoThat;s why I am complaining14:01
draskoyes EXTRA_OECMAKE14:01
draskobut not EXTRA_OEMAKE14:02
draskoEXTRA_OECMAKE is given to cmake, but later when make is called on generated Makefile,  EXTRA_OEMAKE should be passed14:02
draskoand it is not14:02
draskoso I am forced to change third-party CMakeLists.txt file14:03
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tobiashin most cmake based projects the CFLAGS are handled in the makefile generation step so there should be no need to pass any cflags to the make step14:05
tobiashthat would be at least unusual14:05
tobiashdid you check that the CFLAGS variable is exported in the configure task before the cmake call?14:06
draskoNo, but I guess it did. So, I see that only way is to change CMakeLists.txt file, which I avoided.14:08
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tobiashdrasko: if the makefile really obeys the cflags environment variable then you could also export the CFLAGS in do_compile_prepend of your recipe14:13
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draskohi all. I build kernel module that has to link to a static library. This library is also build with Yocto in a separate package.14:39
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draskoHow to tell kernel module where to look for .a file?14:39
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draskoi.e. what to put in Makefile of module?14:40
draskoBasically - this module has to fetch library public headers for compiling and static library for linking.14:40
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erbodrasko: can't you use -L ${STAGING_LIBDIR} -I ${STAGING_INCDIR} and -lyourlib as you would if it wasn't a kernel module?14:45
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draskoerbo, let me try. So far I am trying this approach : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-link-a-static-library-to-a-kernel-module-587406/14:47
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draskoerbo, these -L ${STAGING_LIBDIR} -I ${STAGING_INCDIR}  has to be added to .bb file?14:51
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draskoActually, in my .bb file I have "inherit module" call14:51
draskoand that's all14:52
draskorest is done in module's Makefile14:52
erbodrasko: I guess the modules Makefile need to add -I ${STAGING_INCDIR} to CFLAGS and -L ${STAGING_LIBDIR} -lyourlib to LDFLAGS.. don't know what taken care of by module.bbclass14:54
erbodrasko: note that I haven't done this myself, I'm just speculating :)14:54
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erbodrasko: looks like it unset any CFLAGS or LDFLAGS set in recipe, so I guess the makefile need to contain that14:56
draskobut how to pass this info to Makefile?14:56
drasko${STAGING_INCDIR} is accessible in .bb file14:57
draskobut not in Makefile14:57
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erboif you do "bitbake -e yourkernelmodrecipe", don't you have it as an environment variable?14:58
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Song_LiuYPTM: Welcome to the technical team meeting, Please let me know who's on the bridge.15:00
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draskoerbo, yeap...15:00
draskoSo I guess it is there. Let me try putting these vars directly in module Makefile15:00
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ZagorCongratulations! :-)15:07
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draskoerbo, unfortunately STAGING_INCDIR is not defined in Makefile of kernel module15:13
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draskoAny ideas how to pass public headers directory and STAGING_LIBDIR where static lib is compiled  for the kerenel module compilation?15:14
draskoThis has to be done in kernel modules Makefile15:14
draskobut STAGING_INCDIR and STAGING_LIBDIR seem to be out of reach15:15
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Song_LiuYPTM: thank you all for joining the meeting. Have a nice day/evening15:16
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blloydI know I have seen it before, but I can't find the doucmentation for how to do submissions to yoctoproject.  Can anyone point me to where this information is?  I have 5 separate changes I would like to get submitted, but I can't find the information now that I need it.15:18
jackmitch|homeblloyd: there is a wiki page15:19
jackmitch|homesubmitted patches to openembedded should get you there through google15:19
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draskoany ideas? How to pass these info to kernel module Makefile?15:21
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blloydthat's for openembedded, upstream of Poky.  what about for poky?  Since I was searching for Yocto I didn't find the upstream page.  So is yocto now not taking contributions directly?15:33
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kergothblloyd: poky is an integration of oe-core, meta-yocto, and a couple other things. generally you push directly to the upstream. so if its a change in poky/meta/, it goes to oe-core's list15:35
kergothblloyd: changes meant for meta-yocto & co should go the poky or yocto list, presumably15:36
kergothcheck the layer readmes for details15:36
jackmitch|homeeveryone who is going to be at ELEC, I will see you all tomorrow/thursday!15:37
* jackmitch|home heads off for train15:37
blloydok, thanks.15:37
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blloydpointing to the README files did it.  I knew I had seen it somehere!  Thanks15:38
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blloydbetween the README and the wiki, I am set.  Now off to the office for a while.  I'll start getting the pieces submitted when I get back to this machine this afternoon.15:42
kergothblloyd: glad to hear it, np15:42
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blloydI knew I was overlooking it somewhere obvious....15:45
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kergothheh, to be fair, some sort of contribution guide on the site should likely be better covered, or at least point folks to the readmes :)15:46
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draskohow to pass STAGING_INCDIR to kernel module Makefile?15:58
draskoI have noticed that kernel module CFLAGS can be manipulated only from ccflags-y in module Makefile15:59
draskoHow can I pass information there from .bb file?15:59
kergothshouldn't be necessary, afaik, we already pass --sysroot= in CC16:03
draskoI am missing STAGING_INCDIR16:03
draskoand especially STAGING_INCDIR/myheaders16:04
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kergothnot sure why you'd need that, given a kernel build shouldn't ever be using userland headers16:05
kergothbut you could try KERNEL_CC += "${TOOLCHAIN_OPTIONS}"16:06
draskoTried it - does not work16:07
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draskokergoth, maybe I badly compiled my library? I want to use it form linking with kernel module...16:08
beuhhi, I have need a recipe wiich need to be link with a lib in STAGING_DIR_TARGET/lib instead of STAGING_LIBDIR but when i add  -L${STAGING_DIR_TARGET}/lib -lmylib, Ihave a qa error bad RPATH16:10
beuhsomeone know how ti fix this?16:11
draskoI'd like to add STAGING_INCDIR/myheaders in my keenel module compilation. However, STAGING_INCDIR is not propagated from Bitbake to kernel module Makefile, so ccflags-y += -I${STAGING_INCDIR}/myheaders will not work. Is there any other ay how I can instruct kernel module makefile to change CFLAGS and LDFLAGS?16:13
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j8i want to add a symbolic link to my kernel-image package16:20
j8i've create a kernel_do_install_append which installs it into package/, but i can't figure out how to get it into packages-split16:21
j8FILES_kernel-image +=, FILES_kernel-image_append, FILES_kernel-image-${KERNEL_VERSION}_append & += have not worked16:22
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kergothit's FILES_kernel-image. but you also have to remember that packages are created in the order of their listing in PACKAGES, and the first package to grab a given path will get it16:24
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j8i don't think it's getting picked up at all because of the QA Issue... installed but not shipped16:27
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kergothout of curiosity, what link are you looking to create?16:30
j8a link for grub /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.11-yocto-standard to bzImage-3.8.11-yocto-standard16:31
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j8great, your tip helped and it just worked... i switched the line in my bbappend to FILES_kernel-image =+ " ${KERNEL_IMAGEDEST}/vmlinuz-${KERNEL_VERSION}"16:34
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ddompehi, quick help, I'm using 1.5 "Dora" release and baking the recipe eglibc-locale panics with:16:49
ddompeERROR: QA Issue: eglibc-locale: Files/directories were installed but not shipped   /usr/lib/locale16:49
ddompe(this was while doing a meta-toolchain, and I have multiarch enable)16:50
beuhddompe, propably  FILE_${PN} missing in your .bb16:51
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ddompebeuh: yeah, I can probably just add that one, but this is an standard recipe from meta, wondering what could be happening that only I  see it16:52
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ddompein theory the usr/lib/local should be gone from the eglibc_package_preprocess on meta/recipes-core/eglibc/eglibc-package.inc16:53
ddompewhy the QA is capturing it? I'm missing something16:53
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waltershm, was there just a push to http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto-dev/log/ from 3.10.0 to 3.12-rc3?16:55
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waltersah i see, was tracking standard/base branch17:01
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waltersrburton: hey can i bug you for a sec to help me understand linux-yocto-dev.bb?  In my case PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel == linux-yocto-dev, does that mean i've been tracking the standard/base git branch of linux-yocto-dev?  If so...at what point does bitbake "resolve" that branch to a commit?  During the first fetch?17:13
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evanpwalters: I'd think yes, during fetch--only way it would know of a new git version is by calling into the fetch2 module, which it won't do again once do_fetch succeeds (unless you do_clean)...18:32
kergothno, by default bitbake does the map between ref and commit at parse time for autorev or equivalent recipes18:36
kergothnot at do_fetch time18:36
evanpkergoth: at parse time? does that mean it accesses the network (via fetch2) at parse time?18:38
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kergothwhen using the default fetch cache policy and when you have autorev recipes, yes18:40
kergothit calls git ls-remote to look up the refs18:40
waltershmm, ok18:46
kergothit all depends on what SRCREV is set to18:46
walterswell regardless they're equivalent for me since i have a higher level build system that drives bitbake, and it's only run if the revision of the toplevel module changes18:46
kergothif it's set to a commit, it doesn't contact the network at parse time18:47
kergothif its set to a branch or autorev, it'll resovle at parse time and therefore rebuild if necessary (assuming SRCPV is in use) when the branch changes18:47
waltersso i'm looking to derive from linux-yocto-dev since i want 3.10, but i don't want to autorev18:47
kergothsounds reasonable, set SRCREV to the commit you want18:47
waltersyeah, have been testing a commit to do that, but re-cloning is...very slow18:48
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kergothahh yes18:49
waltersis there a way to wedge --depth=1 into the fetch?18:49
kergothsadly no. it would be nice, but it'd also limit what we can do, since you can't shallow clone an arbitrary commit, only teh tip of a branch (afaik)18:50
kergothwould be nice to have an as option18:50
kergothi like to keep around an _git recipe that's autorev, but has a negative DEFAULT_PREFERENCE, then a locked down default recipe using an exported archive, rather than git18:51
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waltersmy higher level build system (gnome-continuous) has a clean separation between a git mirroring layer and the build metadata18:56
waltersthe nice thing about this is if you're say building both gtk3 and gtk2, you only fetch one git repo, and they share storage18:57
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kergothgoddamnit bitbake19:21
kergothbitbake-whatchanged reports squat for differences between these two builds, but it's rebuliding everything anyway, 6008 tasks19:21
kergothsstate is so freaking brittle and random at times19:21
kergothmakes no sense19:21
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kergothrebuliding ncurses, and whatcahnged on ncurses says not one single thing has changed19:23
* kergoth sighs19:23
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GusBrickerMorning all, can someone explain to me what inherit core-image does in a lot of the recipes?21:21
kergothread poky/meta/classes/core-image.bbclass21:29
GusBrickerThanks kergoth, i had read that, more specifically, im trying to determine the difference between: require/include/inherit21:31
kergothinherit foo is equivalent to 'require classes/foo.bblass', except it avoids re-inheriting already inherited classes21:35
kergothi explained the difference between require and include yesterday :)21:35
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GusBrickerok thanks, ill go thru the logs21:36
kergoththe word alone implies what it does21:37
kergothit includes the file, and fails if it doesnt exist21:37
kergothinclude doens't fail if the file doesn't exist21:37
kergoththey're equivalent to 'include' and '-include' in a makefile, respectively21:37
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GusBrickeryeah its not easy to figure it out tho from a newbies point of view, lots of keywords thrown around. think i get it now though. thanks for the help kergoth21:42
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kergothinherit is for inheritence. it facilitates sharing common bits of functionality between recipes21:46
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seebsIt took me an unusually long time to figure out that "README.md" => Markdown23:08
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kergothdamnit, buildtools-tarball's git binary is screwed up again23:42
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tidahello :) don't know if it's dora or launching it using qemu, but poky now ask me for a root password... what is the default or pb ?23:51
tidaroot entry in shadow is still blank, so its because of qemu/vnc what is the good way to be able to log in when using qemu/vnc ?23:54
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