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| Net147 | what would be the best way to add files to an image that isn't tracked by package management? | 00:28 |
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| Net147 | worked it out. I just created a new function that copies files into ${IMAGE_ROOTFS} and then add the function to ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND. | 01:48 |
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| khem | Net147: you have to regenerate the image and add the needed bits to IMAGE_INSTALL in that image recipe | 01:52 |
| Net147 | khem: IMAGE_INSTALL is tracked by package management though isn't it? | 01:56 |
| Net147 | khem: I don't want it to be in the package database on the target. | 01:59 |
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| khem | Net147: so you have an image which has Online Package Management ? | 02:56 |
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| Net147 | khem: yes | 03:07 |
| Net147 | khem: I already worked it out while you were disconnected. I just created a new function that copies files into ${IMAGE_ROOTFS} and then add the function to ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND. | 03:09 |
| khem | it seems you need to setup online feeds | 03:17 |
| Net147 | khem: I have a feed | 03:18 |
| Net147 | khem: but how does that help? | 03:19 |
| khem | when you have an image with O_P_M then you cant avoid changing the package metadata | 03:21 |
| khem | you can tweak some files with ROOTFS_POSTPROCES_COMMAND but make it an exception not norm | 03:22 |
| Net147 | khem: yes it's just this special case | 03:24 |
| khem | k | 03:24 |
| Net147 | another alternative would be to modify the image after it is built. but that's not as elegant. | 03:25 |
| khem | yes | 03:31 |
| mranostay | morning | 03:35 |
| mranostay | howdy khem | 03:36 |
| khem | mranostay: hey | 03:36 |
| khem | I was absconding for some time :) | 03:37 |
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| mranostay | khem: planning on ELC? | 03:42 |
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| khem | mranostay: yes I think I will there | 03:50 |
| khem | be there | 03:50 |
| khem | hopefully all water in California wont dry up by then | 03:50 |
| mranostay | khem: droughts? | 03:52 |
| khem | yep our governor has declared drought too ? | 03:54 |
| khem | I think | 03:54 |
| khem | let me see some newspapers | 03:54 |
| khem | but no rains here | 03:54 |
| mranostay | khem: pdx certainly rarely has that problem | 03:55 |
| khem | I am sure heh :) | 04:00 |
| mranostay | khem: any forest fires yet? | 04:04 |
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| khem | not yet | 04:06 |
| khem | but drought would mean more likely chances of fires | 04:06 |
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| nerdboy | oops, found some error junk in a recipe after pulling on master | 05:15 |
| nerdboy | webkit-gtk-1.8.3 | 05:15 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 09:11 |
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| rburton | JaMa: 10 day job on jenkins? what on earth are you building?! :) | 09:27 |
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| lpapp | hmm, Yocto does not yet have a process monitor software integrated yet? | 09:58 |
| lpapp | (e.g. daemontools, supervisord, launchd, runit, etc?) | 09:58 |
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| bluelightning | surely systemd? (ducks) | 10:00 |
| lpapp | no, we use SysV. | 10:01 |
| lpapp | and I am not sure if systemd can do the same. | 10:01 |
| lpapp | i.e. relaunching daemons if they are stopped, quiting daemons for certain conditions, etc. | 10:01 |
| hasselmm | lpapp: that's the entire purpose of systemd | 10:01 |
| hasselmm | reliably launching services when needed, keeping them alive, losing no network connection | 10:02 |
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| hasselmm | lpapp: after all it's done by the company making billions with some enterprise linux ;-) | 10:02 |
| hasselmm | still not sure if systemd integration in yocto is good enough already | 10:03 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 10:03 |
| linu1 | hi all i have weighngscal bluetooth device i would like to pair that with arm target and need to use bluetooth spp to get data from weighing scale machine.i googled but i could not get enough idea,can you please help me | 10:03 |
| lpapp | so how can I tell systemd to run 50-100 different services? | 10:03 |
| lpapp | and take care of relaunching some of them at certain points? | 10:03 |
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| lpapp | or stopping 5-15 of them for a certain condition based on the run of one service? | 10:04 |
| lpapp | (anyway, we use SysV, so it is kinda moot) | 10:04 |
| lpapp | (not to mention systemd has other problems) | 10:04 |
| lpapp | (not just that it is bloated) | 10:04 |
| bluelightning | lpapp: if you want those other tools for sysv you'll need to write the recipes yourself I guess | 10:04 |
| lpapp | of course, I was just surprised. | 10:05 |
| hasselmm | lpapp: exactly, that's what systemd is doing. you define conditions under which services are provided. if all this preconditions are fullfilled, the service launches. if you take away one, the service stops | 10:05 |
| lpapp | these are very old tools, and sysv had been around for quite a while. | 10:05 |
| JaMa | rburton: actually nothing :) http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/bitbake-devel/2014-January/004317.html | 10:05 |
| hasselmm | also it has features like listening on network sockets for incoming traffic and only launching the service on demand | 10:06 |
| hasselmm | doesn't seem useful on its own | 10:06 |
| rburton | JaMa: blimey, i saw that but wasn't expecting the impact to be that tragic | 10:06 |
| hasselmm | but becomes handy when reconfiguring services. since it makes you lose not a single byte of incoming traffic during the service restart | 10:06 |
| lpapp | to be honest, I do not like systemd for other reasons. | 10:06 |
| rburton | can we not have another systemd war please? | 10:07 |
| lpapp | rburton: no, I would just forget systemd. ;-) | 10:07 |
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| lpapp | so which layer would daemontools fit in? | 10:09 |
| bluelightning | meta-oe ? | 10:10 |
| lpapp | not meta? | 10:10 |
| JaMa | rburton: neither did I, otherwise I wouldn't have started that job, but I'm still interested in how long it will actually take and the results in diff | 10:10 |
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| linu1 | bluelightning,i have used poky with meta-atmel , do you have any idea to connect weighing scale bluetooth spp to arm target.? | 10:26 |
| rburton | linu1: bluez is the bluetooth stack, so use the APIs that has | 10:27 |
| bluelightning | linu1: no, sorry, I don't | 10:27 |
| lpapp | hasselmm: is it difficult to configure systemd up? | 10:28 |
| linu1 | rburton, yes i have done bluetooth spp between 2 pc and also arm target with pc using rfcomm0 but i dont have any idea using weighing scale bluetooth device. | 10:30 |
| rburton | linu1: so you're asking how to program a very specific piece of hardware? I suggest you find the documentation for it. | 10:31 |
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| fabo | rburton: ffsb patch is still needed, just not config.guess/sub update inside | 11:34 |
| fabo | rburton: it becomes a one-liner to remove the hardcoded configure | 11:34 |
| fabo | rburton: anyway, posting v2 | 11:34 |
| rburton | fabo: sure, but we don't want to see a file added and then deleted | 11:34 |
| fabo | rburton: sounds good | 11:37 |
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| zqad | Hi all. So I have a question about DISTRO_FEATURES vs. IMAGE_FEATURES, in respect to x11. According to http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html, x11 is an IMAGE_FEATURE, which makes it complicated to use as a base for configuration decisions in other packages. However, most existing packages treat it as a DISTRO_FEATURE. Is this ok to do, or is x11 as a DISTRO_FEATURE being phased out? | 13:15 |
| rburton | zqad: it's both. ther'es an image feature you can chose to use. and the distro feature is a global on/off. | 13:22 |
| zqad | rburton: alright, thanks! | 13:22 |
| rburton | if you turn it off at the DISTRO level then you *cannot* build images with X. turn it on at the distro level and you can build images with or without X servers. | 13:23 |
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| zqad | seems fair :) | 13:23 |
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| vmeson | zqad, rburton: I found that removing opengl/ x11 as DFs didn't work. I should test that again... https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5321 | 17:09 |
| yocti | Bug 5321: enhancement, Medium, 1.6, randy.macleod, NEW , When DISTRO_FEATURES are removed, bitbake world should still work | 17:09 |
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| rburton | well, it works, just don't expect to build world. | 17:18 |
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| sjolley | /msg nickserv register jolleykirk stephen.k.jolley@intel.com | 22:49 |
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| newell | I added "emacs" to my IMAGE_INSTALL_append variable in local.conf and it installs emacs fine but when I go to use it via a serial console, it just freezes the whole thing. Any ideas or anyone here get emacs to work properly? | 22:55 |
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| mranostay | newell: yeah use vim | 22:56 |
| mranostay | :) | 22:56 |
| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #13 of nightly-mips is complete: Failure [failed Running Sanity Tests] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-mips/builds/13 | 22:58 | |
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| newell | mranostay, NO! | 23:00 |
| newell | lol | 23:01 |
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| mranostay | behanw: how it a'boot today? | 23:43 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #13 of nightly-arm is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-arm/builds/13 | 23:57 | |
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