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tubes4branes | hi, I'm trying to build Yocto for Galileo, and I'm getting a failure on building python-numpy, looks like problem in the ld linking process, with a undefined reference, any way I can run yocto bitbake to build only python-numpy so I can debug it? | 06:54 |
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tubes4branes | I'm just wondering if I'm missing some dependency, or some path is incorrect. | 06:57 |
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* tubes4branes I figured it out, thanks to this wonderful distilled presentation: | 08:29 | |
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tubes4branes | http://www.slideshare.net/alexgonzalezgarcia/introduction-to-yocto | 08:30 |
tubes4branes | turned out numpy was trying to use build paths from my 64bit linux installation on my workstation, once I removed the libraries and the packages on my local workstation the build worked, would have been nice to know how and what to edit to tell bitbake to tell numpy not to use my system directories. | 08:32 |
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melonipoika | hello | 09:26 |
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melonipoika | i am trying to modify a machine config in my own layer | 09:27 |
melonipoika | i want to change the value of the alst arguement in this variable: MKUBIFS_ARGS = "-F -m 2048 -e 126976 -c 857" | 09:28 |
ndec | melonipoika: modify, because the 'original' machine conf exist in another layer? | 09:28 |
melonipoika | ndec, thats right. This is defined in a .conf file, in a layer | 09:28 |
melonipoika | can i just create a bbappend in my own layer? | 09:29 |
ndec | nope. bbappend are for bb files ;-) | 09:29 |
melonipoika | :-( | 09:29 |
melonipoika | i thought so | 09:29 |
melonipoika | i tired creating my own machine | 09:29 |
melonipoika | but then some recipes don't build because of course my new machine is not listed in their compatible machines | 09:29 |
ndec | that's one (expensive) way of doing it.. do you have your own distro? | 09:29 |
ndec | or your own image? | 09:30 |
melonipoika | yes, i have my own distro | 09:30 |
melonipoika | and own image | 09:30 |
ndec | ok, then you can set it there. | 09:30 |
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melonipoika | ok, great! | 09:30 |
ndec | i am sure someone will say it's ugly... | 09:30 |
ndec | but i don't know how to do it differently. | 09:31 |
ndec | and I , too, would like to be able to bbappend machine conf files ;-) | 09:31 |
melonipoika | well, i believe that modifying the original machine config is even uglier :-) | 09:31 |
ndec | right. | 09:31 |
ndec | if you support several machines you can do MKUBIFS_ARGS_<machine> | 09:31 |
ndec | so that the change is only used for your machine. | 09:32 |
melonipoika | ok, many thakns for the tip | 09:32 |
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melonipoika | my distro supports just one machine | 09:32 |
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ndec | well, technically speaking distro can support any machine ;-) | 09:32 |
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melonipoika | ok :-) we only support one machine :D | 09:32 |
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lpapp | danielki: interesting that some main distros still do not have icecc packages. | 09:44 |
rburton | tubes4branes: the numpy host problem should be fixed in poky/oe-core from git master | 09:46 |
rburton | numpy's configure script is … special. | 09:47 |
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tubes4branes | I need to reboot, I have a stuck process that I can't seem to KILL −9 on my laptop. | 09:52 |
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bluelightning | morning all | 09:53 |
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fp | #toaster | 10:52 |
fp | is there a separate channel specific to toaster? | 10:52 |
Crofton | probably not | 10:54 |
Crofton | belen, might know | 10:54 |
belen | fp: no, there isn't. We have a mailing list, if that helps | 10:55 |
belen | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/toaster | 10:55 |
belen | the toaster crowd hangs here, so feel free to ask questions :) | 10:55 |
fp | Crofton, belen, thx, I am on the list | 10:56 |
fp | belen, ok, I was just trying to find out if there is a road map of some kind that might being followed (roughly) | 10:58 |
fp | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/File:Toaster_1.6_content_structure.pdf, this one looks pretty different from how the toaster looks like now | 10:58 |
fp | I wanted to see which part of it I can probably start contributing to | 10:59 |
belen | fp: we do have a plan ;) If you are interested in long term plans, this document might give you a good idea | 11:00 |
belen | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/images/b/bc/WH_roadmap.pdf | 11:00 |
belen | if you are interested in short term plans, looking at | 11:00 |
belen | www.yoctoproject.org/toaster | 11:00 |
belen | will show you what we working on for the YP 1.6 release | 11:00 |
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fp | belen, great, I am interested in both | 11:05 |
belen | fp: this how to contribute wiki page might also be of interest | 11:08 |
belen | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Contribute_to_Toaster | 11:08 |
fp | belen, yes, I have read through this one | 11:09 |
-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #25 of nightly-qa-systemd is complete: Failure [failed Running Sanity Tests Running Sanity Tests_2] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-qa-systemd/builds/25 | 11:09 | |
fp | guessing poky-contrib will give me the current status | 11:10 |
fp | to see how far along we are with the page displayed at toaster | 11:11 |
belen | fp: yes, you can look at toaster/master | 11:11 |
fp | belen, waiting for my ssh key to get added | 11:12 |
fp | already sent to Richard Purdie | 11:13 |
fp | Belen, thanks! | 11:13 |
belen | fp: sounds good, but I think you should be sending the ssh key to Michael Haldstead | 11:14 |
fp | belen, I was planning on doing that :) | 11:15 |
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fp | belen, sent. | 11:25 |
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* fp had read, probably on another page somewhere that it could be sent to Richard Purdie as well | 11:27 | |
belen | fp: welcome to the toaster crowd :) | 11:27 |
belen | fp: this bugzilla query has the list of UI related features | 11:28 |
belen | http://goo.gl/OqA229 | 11:28 |
fp | belen, Thanks :) | 11:28 |
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RP | fp: I forwarded it on fwiw. Michael is travelling atm though | 12:04 |
zeeblex | @x1g3nMS | 12:05 |
zeeblex | scratch that :)) | 12:05 |
lpapp | what is the best way of making sure the native toolchain built by yocto is not rebuilt everytime? | 12:06 |
lpapp | i.e. it would slow the CI build down significantly even with icecc. | 12:06 |
danielki | it isn't rebuilt every time for me | 12:11 |
fp | RP, thx! | 12:12 |
lpapp | danielki: the point of CI is to do a clean build. | 12:13 |
lpapp | in which case, it is inherently rebuilt. | 12:13 |
lpapp | but if it is possible to specify not to rebuild native tools, that is fine. I do not know if there is such an option. | 12:14 |
danielki | ah | 12:14 |
bluelightning | lpapp: just use a pre-populated sstate cache | 12:14 |
danielki | well, you could always selectively delete sstate and work of all packages not ending in -native | 12:14 |
danielki | or that | 12:14 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: I am using that, but sstate-cache would also keep the binaries built around? | 12:45 |
lpapp | danielki: is there some other media for icecc than google groups? I do not have a gmail.com address. | 12:45 |
danielki | lpapp: no idea, I didn't need to fiddle with it yet | 12:46 |
lpapp | danielki: also, it is sad that they moved away from the KDE infratructure. IMHO, github is bad. | 12:47 |
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danielki | I know nothing about it | 12:47 |
lpapp | danielki: btw, for my other question the other day, yes, it is possible to play doom, and not allowing icecc to use your machine. | 12:48 |
lpapp | danielki: AFAIK, that is the main advantage of icecc over distcc | 12:48 |
lpapp | (the rest is "cosmethical") | 12:48 |
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lpapp | danielki: so if I understand correctly, you just run the daemon on every machine, including the server, and the scheduler on the server, only, and then you set a few ICECC variables in your local conf? | 12:56 |
danielki | I just installed the Ubuntu package and set the ICECC vars in my local conf :) | 12:56 |
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* danielki had the luxury of being able to tap into existing infrastructure already used by others and for other purposes | 12:57 | |
lpapp | danielki: you mean you did not need to announce that to the clients how to run the daemon because they were already using it, or something else? | 12:58 |
danielki | yes, we are using icecc extensively in our office | 12:58 |
lpapp | danielki: are you also using 12.04 LTS on the server? | 12:59 |
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lpapp | danielki: hmm, strictly speaking, if icecc is in the PATH, it does not even need any change in the local.conf apparently unless you need to blacklist/whitelist | 13:03 |
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danielki | lpapp: I just asked my colleagues and apparently the server is running some mutilated version of OpenSuSE, with ICECC quite likely compiled from source :) | 13:04 |
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lpapp | danielki: ah, ok, thanks. | 13:04 |
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lpapp | danielki: well, it would be nice to have some cli based monitor because I cannot run the qt stuff on the server over ssh. :-) | 13:21 |
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danielki | lpapp: icemon also works on a client machine | 13:23 |
lpapp | danielki: yes, but currently I have that cli, too. :) | 13:25 |
danielki | ah | 13:25 |
lpapp | danielki: the scheduler seems to have a telnet interface though. | 13:25 |
lpapp | danielki: do you set ICECC_ENV_EXEC as well as ICECC_PATH? | 13:28 |
lpapp | it seems that ICECC_PATH should not be needed as icecc is usually in the PATH if you install it from a distro package. | 13:28 |
lpapp | probably the default could be fine for the former, too? | 13:28 |
danielki | INHERIT += "icecc" | 13:28 |
danielki | ICECC_PARALLEL_MAKE = '-j 24' | 13:28 |
danielki | is all I have | 13:28 |
lpapp | danielki: strange because you said partial toolchain blacklisting the other day, too? | 13:29 |
danielki | that's in the default blacklists | 13:29 |
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lpapp | danielki: ah, you mean in /etc, not within Yocto? | 13:32 |
danielki | no, within yocto | 13:32 |
lpapp | what do you mean by default blacklisting within Yocto? | 13:33 |
danielki | see icecc.bbclass | 13:33 |
danielki | system_package_blacklist | 13:34 |
lpapp | btw, http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-ICECC_PATH -> ICECC_PARALLEL_MAKE is not documented, so I will open a ticket. | 13:34 |
danielki | oh, I found that one via google :) | 13:34 |
lpapp | danielki: right, thanks. | 13:34 |
lpapp | there is no ICECC_BB_NUMBER_THREADS though | 13:35 |
danielki | probably because there is no need for a distinction | 13:36 |
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lpapp | not sure why it would make sense for one, but not the other. | 13:38 |
danielki | because single recipes may or may not be in the icecc blacklist | 13:38 |
bluelightning | because bitbake doesn't actually run on the remote machines perhaps? | 13:38 |
danielki | whereas for the build as a whole, you know whether you enabled icecc | 13:38 |
lpapp | and BB_NUMBER_THREADS is for bb, indeed. | 13:39 |
lpapp | (it could run in remote, but that is not a discussion for today...) | 13:39 |
lpapp | on the remote* | 13:39 |
danielki | bluelightning: well, BB_NUMBER_THREADS does allow for compile parallelization of independent recipes | 13:40 |
lpapp | danielki: -j24 is hefty. :) | 13:41 |
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danielki | lpapp: well, at least half of all machines in our office run icecc, so... :) | 13:41 |
lpapp | danielki: oh, so it is not per local, but overall? | 13:42 |
danielki | and the developer boxes tend to be beefy, too | 13:42 |
danielki | yes | 13:42 |
lpapp | all the cores in the network.... ok, so this variable actually needs maintenance when daemons come and go... | 13:42 |
danielki | nah, not really, it's just a maximum | 13:42 |
lpapp | cannot it auto-detect post-dora anyway? | 13:42 |
lpapp | like the PARALLEL_MAKE variable? | 13:43 |
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danielki | what do you want it to autodetect? the number of cores available in the network? | 13:43 |
lpapp | danielki: no, if you overshoot, you do not utilize the cores the best way. | 13:43 |
lpapp | the best usage is around 2x or so. | 13:43 |
danielki | lpapp: icecc limits the processes on a per-client policy | 13:43 |
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lpapp | danielki: so if we have 4 cores per person, and about 10 people at max, we need -j80? | 13:44 |
danielki | lpapp: guess so | 13:44 |
lpapp | I still think auto-detection would make the life much nicer. | 13:45 |
lpapp | and this information could be accumulated over the socket. | 13:45 |
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lpapp | danielki: do you have some local policy on your client machine? | 13:51 |
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danielki | I think icecc will set a maximum equal to the number of cores by default | 13:51 |
lpapp | hmm. | 13:52 |
danielki | there seems to be a bug in the current ubuntu package though, which makes it not accept jobs despite the config settings | 13:53 |
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lpapp | danielki: current ubuntu package means? 12.04? | 13:56 |
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danielki | I'm on 13.10 -- we're moving into off-topic land now, though | 13:57 |
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lpapp | danielki: yes | 14:01 |
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Garibaldi|work | suppose that I have a package foo that has PACKAGECONIG with options A and B. How, as a user of the client, do I specify that I want foo with A enabled? | 15:13 |
Garibaldi|work | set a PACKAGECONIG = "A" somewhere, but would that affect all packages that have "A" as an option? | 15:14 |
Garibaldi|work | if there a way to say "I want foo with A" | 15:14 |
Garibaldi|work | ^if^is^ | 15:14 |
Garibaldi|work | I guess I could do a .bbappend for that package | 15:16 |
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Garibaldi|work | can I do something like PACKAGE | 15:19 |
Garibaldi|work | err, PACKAGECONIG_foo = "A" | 15:19 |
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bluelightning | Garibaldi|work: bbappend for the recipe or PACKAGECONFIG_pn-recipename = in your local/distro config | 15:22 |
Garibaldi|work | ah, thanks | 15:22 |
Garibaldi|work | so if the package is 'foo' and the recipe is 'foo', PACKAGECONIG_foo-foo = "A" | 15:23 |
Garibaldi|work | (forgive my missing Fs) | 15:23 |
lpapp | bluelightning: what do you mean by toolchain is not rebuilt if I push the sstate-cache? | 15:24 |
lpapp | sstate-cache contains the built binaries? | 15:24 |
bluelightning | lpapp: did you read the section on shared state that I pointed you to the other day? | 15:25 |
zqad | Garibaldi|work: no, _pn- is just "_pn-", no substitution | 15:25 |
bluelightning | Garibaldi|work: PACKAGECONFIG_pn-foo = "A" | 15:25 |
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Garibaldi|work | ahh, understood | 15:26 |
Garibaldi|work | thanks | 15:26 |
zqad | i also went into that trap the other day | 15:27 |
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Garibaldi|work | I have a recipe that uses mercurial-native to fetch the source. When I run it, I get "warning: vim.googlecode.com certificate with fingerprint FOO not verified. transaction abort!" | 16:03 |
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Garibaldi|work | Is there some way to express this fingerprint in the recipe? | 16:04 |
Garibaldi|work | seems I can add it to ~/.hgrc | 16:05 |
Garibaldi|work | but then everyone who uses my repo will need to do that | 16:05 |
ndec | Garibaldi|work: i am not familiar with the same problem, but something similar can happen with git over ssh, which i use. some of the trees we fetch are private/restricted, so you need to configure ~/.ssh/config so that the recipe can fetch properly. | 16:07 |
ndec | to me that looks 'okay'. i have seen other people do that. | 16:07 |
ndec | such that the recipe is 'generic' and works for every user that has done the right $HOME setup. | 16:08 |
Garibaldi|work | yeah, but then I have to have a rule that says "clone this repo, then set up this config file in your home directory for some tool that you may not use | 16:08 |
Garibaldi|work | " | 16:08 |
Garibaldi|work | it'll work, it just make using the repo less seamless | 16:09 |
Garibaldi|work | it would be nice if it could be a parameter to the hg:// URI | 16:10 |
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bluelightning | Garibaldi|work: can this be fixed with a command line option to hg? | 16:13 |
Garibaldi|work | bluelightning: I think so | 16:14 |
Garibaldi|work | --config hostfingerprints.vim.googlecode.com = FOO | 16:15 |
Garibaldi|work | if I'm reading the 'help' output correctly | 16:15 |
bluelightning | Garibaldi|work: do you have to know the fingerprint value? or can you just tell it to stop checking? | 16:15 |
Garibaldi|work | bluelightning: yeah, let me look. I've never actually used mecurial | 16:16 |
bluelightning | I'm not too familiar with it either, to be honest | 16:16 |
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Garibaldi|work | I'm trying to tweak the recipe to use http instead of https | 16:21 |
Garibaldi|work | that seems to have satisfied it | 16:23 |
Garibaldi|work | I'll bbappend the recipe to change the SRC_URI | 16:23 |
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Garibaldi|work | I'm not sure what failed; did the fact that the tool generated a warning cause the fetcher to think there was an error? | 16:24 |
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bluelightning | Garibaldi|work: it does say "transaction abort" which suggests it errored out | 16:29 |
Garibaldi|work | yeah, good point | 16:29 |
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lpapp | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5801 | 17:59 |
yocti | Bug 5801: normal, Undecided, ---, scott.m.rifenbark, NEW , Document the ICECC_PARALLEL_MAKE variable | 17:59 |
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kergoth | one of these years i really need to sit down and play around with doc generation packageconfigs and see how much work itd be to pull off | 18:13 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: yes, I read, but my understanding is that it does not store built binaries. | 18:17 |
lpapp | bluelightning: so, I am not sure how checking the sstate-cache folder into the repository would help avoiding the rebuild of the toolchain on the CI machine. | 18:18 |
lpapp | (it is doing a fresh clone currently) | 18:18 |
bluelightning | lpapp: of course it does... it stores the complete output of do_populate_sysroot for one | 18:18 |
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bluelightning | lpapp: because extracting the output from shared state is quicker than rebuilding it... | 18:19 |
lpapp | bluelightning: then, I have no idea why the CI machine would spend two hours with it. | 18:19 |
lpapp | it should spend a few seconds with a fully checked in sstate-cache based on that. | 18:19 |
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bluelightning | but only if it's the same distro as the machine you prepared the sstate-cache on | 18:19 |
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lpapp | (since nothing gets rebuilt which is clearly not the case based on the log) | 18:19 |
bluelightning | since the native parts are split per distro | 18:20 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: by distro, you mean the host distro or Yocto distro? | 18:25 |
-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #17 of nightly-non-gpl3 is complete: Failure [failed BuildImages] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-non-gpl3/builds/17 | 18:26 | |
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lpapp | bluelightning: because really, the CI goes through circa 2000 tasks each time. | 18:26 |
lpapp | and I have checked the downloads and sstate-cache in! | 18:27 |
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lpapp | does anyone know why logging as root does not work anymore with the password set after removing debug-tweaks? | 19:24 |
lpapp | I thought if I was setting a root password explicitly, debug-tweaks would not be necessary anymore for this? | 19:25 |
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b1gtuna | good morning everyone, has anyone set up a download cache server either locally or remotely? I am trying to back up my download directory and AWS is tempting but wanted to ask for some pointers | 19:38 |
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mranostay | howdy Jefro | 21:07 |
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