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lpappJaMa: hi, would you accept a capnproto recipe in meta-oe?07:17
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #65 of nightly-multilib is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-multilib/builds/6509:14
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bluelightningmorning all09:35
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Saurrburton, RP: I would suggest reverting f363c361 (introducing the use of ln -r). Even though ln -r was introduced almost two years ago in coreutils 8.16, the latest stable Debian release (Wheezy) is still at coreutils 8.13...09:36
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #67 of nightly-x86-lsb is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-x86-lsb/builds/6709:48
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #65 of poky-tiny is complete: Failure [failed RunPreamble GetDistroVersion CreateAutoConf Create BBLayers Configuration BuildImages Publishing Artifacts] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/poky-tiny/builds/6509:48
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pranavi want to install yocto linux in my Digi board. where should i look for documentation ?11:10
jackmitchellpranav: https://www.yoctoproject.org/documentation11:12
pranavthanks, i am a ubuntu user.. how similar it is to it ?11:13
jackmitchellpranav: doesn't really matter what Linux distro you use, it's documentation for using the Yocto Project tool collection, not a distro11:13
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pranavso, that means i can choose my tools/drivers as per my need ?11:15
pranavis there an IDE to devoted for developing programs for it ?11:17
LetoThe2ndyou do not "develop for yocto"11:17
jackmitchellpranav: you just a get a Linux system at the end, so you can use whatever IDE you like11:17
LetoThe2ndpranav: maybe you should read up first what yocto is... and more impotantly, not is11:18
pranavok, thanks11:18
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lpappbluelightning: hi11:51
lpappwhat are you planning to do about 5702 ?11:52
lpapp!bug 570211:52
yoctiBug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5702 normal, Medium, 1.6, chong.lu, ACCEPTED , Dependency on dbus-ptest-ptest increases image size significantly11:52
lpappbluelightning: also, can the hwdb be added to the bad recommendations or so for core-image-minimal? That is also huge.11:52
bluelightninglpapp: the bug is assigned to Chong Lu...11:53
lpappbluelightning: yes, but nothing is happening, at least publically.11:54
bluelightningnothing is happening privately either11:54
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lpappok, but imho it is bad because it is crucial for small embedded systems to consider systemd.11:54
bluelightningI agree, I'm not the person to talk to though11:55
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lpappbluelightning: do you have any comment on the solution proposals?11:56
bluelightningI already proposed a solution, I don't understand why that isn't enough...11:56
lpappbluelightning: ask chong?11:57
bluelightningI'm dealing with other problems right now11:58
lpappbluelightning: and what about the hwdb issue?11:58
bluelightningdon't know11:58
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tasslehoffshould I use zImage or uImage for a beagleboard these days? I'm on dora.12:47
lpapptasslehoff: AFAIK, zImage is created by default, and you can use bootz.12:48
lpappI would personally use whatever the default is in Yocto unless there are issues with that.12:49
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tasslehofflpapp: the issue is a mismatch. beagleboard.conf says zImage, but u-boot is built to boot a uImage (afaikt)12:57
lpapptasslehoff: cannot u-boot boot both with boot and bootz?12:58
tasslehoffnice sentence :)12:58
tasslehoffI don't know. I see bootz is defined, but for me it runs the env-commands that look for a uImage.12:59
lpapphmm, I do not even have bootz.13:00
lpappversion13:01
lpappU-Boot 2013.0713:01
lpappwe should switch to v2014.0113:02
lpappseems the one in oe-core also needs an update.13:03
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tasslehoffyeah. I'll try going with uImage atm, since I'm trying to get started with poky.13:05
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LetoThe2ndhowdy! is ncurses do_install currently broken, maybe?14:01
rburtonLetoThe2nd: yes, if you have old coreutils.  revert the commit to ncurses.inc.14:02
rburtonf363c361fb0f3b7eaa82a4d6f125be5cdc0375fe if poky14:03
LetoThe2ndrburton: if i have "old coreutils" as in "plain ubuntu 12.04"?14:03
Crofton|workstop blaming old people14:04
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rburtonyeah, 12.04 is ancient ;)14:11
rburtonwe'll fix don't worry14:11
LetoThe2ndhehe14:11
rburtonmy metric of "if debian stable has it, everyone does" obviously failed14:11
LetoThe2ndits ok, but if its known i don't spend any more time diagnosing it14:11
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Saurrburton: Hmm, which version of Debian did you use if it had coreutils 8.16 or later? We use Debian Wheezy (7.4) (which I believe is the latest stable release) and it has coreutils 8.13...14:49
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rburtonlets see14:56
rburtonoh!14:56
rburtonmy what i thought was stable machine had sneaked a few packages from unstable14:57
rburtonwhoops14:57
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Saurrburton: Well, apart for the problem with these not-so-up-to-date distributions, ln -r seems like a nice feature. I guess we just need to wait a few more years for them to catch up before we can use it. ;) Or build coreutils-native...15:08
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uRandomMMHas anyone gotten a working Xorg server using the master branch with kernel linux-boundary-3.10.17 and systemd? I am getting a segmentation fault when I used systemd but Xorg works fine when I use systemV.  Xorg.0.log systemd: http://pastebin.com/GKRZ1zLC systemv: http://pastebin.com/Yx0Lpa9415:33
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bluelightninguRandomMM: what's  linux-boundary ?15:36
kergothprobably something for a boundary devices board, i'm guessing15:37
* kergoth shrugs, y awns15:37
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uRandomMMYes it is. I am running the sabrelite board which has an imx6q chip. If there is a better place for me to be asking this I would much appreciate some direction.15:39
uRandomMMlinux-boundary is the branch name of the kernel for the board15:39
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Crofton|workDon't forget aobut: http://openembedded.org/wiki/OEDAM16:14
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misza222Hi folks, I'm going throught yocto documentation and there are many references to sato, sato image. What does sato stand for or what is it?20:08
rburtonmisza222: doesn't stand for anything, its a reference graphical image20:11
rburtonmisza222: has a basic desktop, launcher, panel etc20:11
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misza222rburton: gotya20:12
misza222rburton: thanks20:12
Crofton|workbut what is sato? WhAT DOES IT MEAN!20:13
uRandomMMwgao:20:14
uRandomMMsorry wrong window.... :/20:15
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rburtonCrofton: it's a bad transliteration of a japanese word  :)20:18
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misza222I would like to add ruby to this layer http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-intel-iot-devkit/tree/  - where should i start?20:20
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rburtonmisza222: get meta-ruby from meta-oe, and add it to your bblayers.conf20:21
rburtonCrofton|work: many codenames from that era are bad transliterations of japanese, that's the mallum influence for you20:21
rburtonsato, taku, koto, etc.20:22
misza222rburton: I will try that, thanks20:24
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regorianerdo you all use vi or other text edit apps to create and edit files or is there any existing sdk? i read about some eclipse ote plugin but it is "out-of-date"20:51
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misza222rburton, I had to add IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " ruby" to my local.conf, and after resolving libyaml dependency it is compiling :)20:55
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d_s_eHow can I build an image with kernel 3.10? I always get an image with 3.0.35, bo matter what I try.22:22
kergothits up to the machine/bsp to make kernels available. its' not a single monolithic kernel for all hardware22:23
kergothso we can't tell you anything without knowing what machine you're building for22:23
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d_s_eit's for a wandboard quad.22:26
kergoththat's supported by freescale, their linux-wandboard 3.0.35 kernel recipe in meta-fsl-arm-extra. i'd say contact them about it22:28
kergothsee the readme in meta-fsl-arm-extra22:29
Crofton|workkergoth, I wanted to make sure you saw this : http://openembedded.org/wiki/OEDAM22:29
kergothcool, i still need to get approval for ELC, will add myself when I do22:30
Crofton|workthanks22:30
Crofton|workI figure many people are22:30
Crofton|worksome people need to give presentations22:31
Crofton|workI should just arrange a schedule that shows them presenting at OEdAM :)22:31
regorianerso, nobody has an answer to my question? you all create your files using vi or other text editing tools?22:31
Crofton|workyes22:32
regorianerdamn22:32
Crofton|worknote sure about eclipse plugin22:33
regorianerote, but its out of date22:33
* kergoth uses vim22:33
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misza222rburton, ruby compiled, booted from the new image, but ruby is not on the image. anything else that I need to do?22:39
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bluelightning_regorianer: what is ote?22:48
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bluelightningregorianer: oh, you mean OpenEmbedded Tools for Eclipse22:52
bluelightningregorianer: that is ages old; see the Yocto Project Eclipse plugin for a replacement22:52
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regorianerbluelightning: yeah, thats the reason i ask for a better solution22:54
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bluelightningregorianer: see http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/adt-manual/adt-manual.html22:55
regorianerbluelightning: yeah already read about it, just wanted to know if there is a better solution than using a plguin for eclipse22:56
kergothI don't understand what you're looking for22:58
kergothif you don't want an editor,a nd don't want to use eclipse, what exactly do you want?22:58
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regorianersimply i want an ide23:01
regorianerfor creating everything maybe with some syntax highlighting and code completion23:02
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regorianerit's a bit ... lemme say unproductive to go through all directories to search for some keywords (e.g. if i specify a MACHINE="rasperrbypi", i need to know that i have a target machine and if there a various targets i forget about what i have)23:05
regorianersure i can grep, wow23:06
regorianerhow do you write your bb files for your bb files? all manually?23:07
Crofton|workpretty much, for the most part they are pretty simple23:10
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kergothwe have highlighting support for the text editors, and everything else is trivial at a shell. such an ide would just slow me down and force me to take my hands off the home row and use the mouse, personally23:11
kergothand if you want an ide, go try the yocto eclipse plugin already23:11
* kergoth rolls eyes23:11
regorianerwell, fine, it was just a question ;)23:11
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kergothI don't see the point in asking for a better solution than a plugin you haven't tried. try it, if it doesn't meet your needs, go from there23:14
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kergothhmm23:19
regorianergit it23:27
regorianergot it23:27
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