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mago_ | hello! im trying to understand if there is a relationship between OpenEmbedded and the Yocto project. Is there one, or is the only common denominator that they both use Bitbake to build stuff? | 07:51 |
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tlwoerner | mago_: maybe this will help? http://openembedded.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded-Core | 07:54 |
mago_ | ah, great. thank you! so poky is bitbake+recipes for real devices while OE (core) is bitbake+recipes for virtual devices? | 07:57 |
tlwoerner | mago_: maybe my understanding isn't 100% perfect, but i like to think of OE as being "raw materials" and poky is an example of creating a distribution using those materials | 08:01 |
tlwoerner | and yes, as such poky does target a couple real devices | 08:02 |
mago_ | and what is the relationship between poky and yocto? i thought yocto used poky as its "buildsystem"? .. but the yoctoproject is also a tool to "create linux distributions", so does that mean it customizes the "poky example"? | 08:03 |
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mckoan | good morning | 08:16 |
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bluelightning | morning all | 10:13 |
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Net147 | moin | 10:13 |
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RP | morning | 11:15 |
Saur | Hmm, anyone knows why /usr/share/glib-2.0/gettext/po/Makefile.in.in ends up in the libglib-2.0-utils RPM? To me it looks like something that should be in a -dev RPM... | 11:20 |
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RP | Saur: it does sound more like a -dev thing | 11:51 |
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kab0naresuzu | looks like a task failed | 12:24 |
kab0naresuzu | webkit-gtk_svn.bb failed | 12:24 |
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Saur | RP: Hmm, apparently it is something for glib-gettextize (see 66aed14ca in poky). OTOH, a number of the utils (including glib-gettextize) in libglib-2.0-utils are only needed for development... | 12:30 |
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kab0naresuzu | Saur: I was on the wrong version of Poky | 12:34 |
kab0naresuzu | I was on Danny | 12:34 |
kab0naresuzu | **Denzil | 12:34 |
kab0naresuzu | I was supposed to be on Danny | 12:34 |
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kab0naresuzu | recompiling | 12:34 |
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RP | Saur: isn't the library split out separately do it shouldn't be a big issue? | 12:37 |
Crofton|work | RP, what TZ are you in now? | 12:39 |
Saur | RP: Well, I need gdbus which is in libglib-2.0-utils. However, I do not need the development utilities that end up in the same package... | 12:39 |
Crofton|work | http://www.ka-news.de/region/karlsruhe/kombiloesung./Bombenfund-in-Karlsruher-City-8-000-Menschen-muessen-Haeuser-verlassen;art6066,1351234,B?bn=1172749 | 12:39 |
Crofton|work | I psent last week just outside the evacuation zone | 12:39 |
RP | Saur: it does sound like the packages could do with reorganising | 12:41 |
RP | rburton: any thoughts^^^ ? | 12:41 |
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RP | Crofton|work: are you saying you had something to do with this? ;-) | 12:42 |
Crofton|work | Well, I am not sure if it is British or American | 12:43 |
RP | Crofton|work: I'm in the UK btw | 12:43 |
Crofton|work | I've apologized to my freind that is getting evacuated | 12:43 |
Crofton|work | figured :) | 12:43 |
Crofton|work | I am home now | 12:43 |
Crofton|work | I wlaked through the evac zone at least once | 12:44 |
xerent | here's another bombshell: something in my yocto build isn't working ;) | 12:46 |
xerent | I added an application (source, makefile) and a recipe into my existing layer | 12:46 |
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xerent | bitbake builds it fine, but rootfs task fails because it can't find the package. | 12:46 |
xerent | what did I likely miss? | 12:46 |
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otavio | Is there any doc about the [][] operator? | 13:07 |
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tlwoerner | Crofton|work: glad to hear you're home okay | 13:31 |
Crofton|work | thanks | 13:32 |
Crofton|work | they cancelled some flights after I got home | 13:32 |
bluelightning | otavio: er, where do you see that? | 13:36 |
otavio | bluelightning: RP explained to me already | 13:37 |
otavio | bluelightning: python trick :D | 13:37 |
bluelightning | otavio: ok, np | 13:37 |
bluelightning | xerent: usually it means the package was claimed to be produced by a recipe but ended up empty and thus wasn't produced | 13:37 |
bluelightning | xerent: in that case usually the fix is to check that FILES (and possibly PACKAGES) is set as expected | 13:40 |
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xerent | bluelightning: OK, I'll investigate. thanks | 13:47 |
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xerent | I think I got it working :) | 14:21 |
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CrankDeric | Can someone explain to me how I force my build to use Bluez5 instead of Bluez4? | 15:02 |
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CrankDeric | Does anyone have a link? I've found lots of info on the bluez4 / bluez5 conflict, but I can't see any method of specifying I want bluez5 in my build | 15:31 |
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bluelightning | CrankDeric: near as I can tell (not being something I've dealt with directly) there is no master switch at the moment, since individual recipes depend on specific versions of bluez (currently bluez4 mostly) | 15:36 |
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bluelightning | we were hoping to enable bluez5 completely for the 1.6 release but unfortunately the latest PulseAudio still doesn't completely support it | 15:37 |
diego_r | khem: otavio: I've backported this commit: https://github.com/OSSystems/meta-browser/commit/256f77109df1d8d07130e76d27812e1cd25d1ec7 to dora which is missing that compile fix. Do I need to resend the patch with [for-dora]? | 15:38 |
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kergoth | huh, interesting, https://code.google.com/p/python-subprocess32/ | 16:15 |
kergoth | cool, didn't know 3.2 added a param to address the sigpipe ignoring, http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/768722b2ae0a/#l1.51 | 16:15 |
kergoth | learn something new every day.. | 16:15 |
otavio | diego_r: just this one or did you backport the atk one? | 16:19 |
diego_r | otavio: Hi. I've backported just that one, 'cause I'm building on Ubuntu 12.04, but I can blindly backport the atk one too if you want | 16:21 |
diego_r | (chromium dora build for me without the atk patch, but not without the nss one | 16:22 |
otavio | diego_r: ok; doing as you did | 16:23 |
otavio | diego_r: merged. Please confirm it works for you | 16:24 |
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diego_r | otavio: it's identical to my backport, but i'm "-c cleansstate" and building again to be sure | 16:40 |
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otavio | diego_r: thx | 16:41 |
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diego_r | otavio: built successfully! | 17:47 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: hi, are you still about | 17:51 |
bluelightning | yep | 17:51 |
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CrankDeric | bluelightning: Okay, is there a hacky way of doing it? I'd rather be using the latest bluetooth stack for my setup, a lot of the API documentation i'm coming across references the Bluez5 stack and they broke backwards compatibility so I can't build stuff for 4 and switch to 5 after. | 17:52 |
lpapp | bluelightning: ok, so if I use ntpd from busybox, it would be good to ship an init.d file along with .bbappend in our layer, right? | 17:52 |
lpapp | and enable/start or disable/stop it as desired. | 17:52 |
kergoth | CrankDeric: we're using bluez5 by default at mentor now | 17:52 |
kergoth | via a combination of a virtual/libbluetooth provide (the lib is compatible, the dbus api isn't), and a virtual-runtime to adjust hte packagegorups | 17:53 |
bluelightning | lpapp: I guess so yeah | 17:53 |
kergoth | the bits for it are in our meta-mel layer if you want to examine it | 17:53 |
kergoth | https://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-mentor/blob/master/meta-mel/conf/blocks/bluetooth.conf has the configuration, but there are bbappends to use those bits | 17:53 |
lpapp | bluelightning: thanks. | 17:53 |
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CrankDeric | kergoth: thanks! | 17:54 |
kergoth | admittedly not perfect, but i suspest something along those lines will be upstream eventually (post-1.6) | 17:54 |
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CrankDeric | kergoth: Being a relative newcomer to Yocto, how would I incorporate something like this into a stock Dora build for instance? | 17:59 |
lpapp | bluelightning: and following the consistency if I see it correctly, it would go on its own into a busybox-ntp package, right? | 17:59 |
bluelightning | lpapp: possibly yes, not sure | 18:00 |
kergoth | CrankDeric: you could create a custom layer with just the subset of bits from this one, or you could try using this as is, it depends on your needs and requirements | 18:00 |
CrankDeric | kergoth: I'll play around with dropping it into my build, I'm just not sure how to tell my build to grab it, but I'll poke around. Thanks again. | 18:01 |
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kergoth | CrankDeric: build/conf/bblayers.conf lists the layers to be included in BBLAYERS. | 18:03 |
CrankDeric | kergoth: perfect. | 18:03 |
CrankDeric | kergoth: thanks again! | 18:03 |
lpapp | oh, wow, there is a do_install_append. | 18:03 |
kergoth | np, good luck with it | 18:03 |
kergoth | CrankDeric: regarding your backwards compatibility comments, its my understanding the libbluetooth lib is compatible, just the dbus api isn't, is that not correct? | 18:04 |
kergoth | or is it the dbus api you're using :) | 18:04 |
CrankDeric | kergoth: that's what I've read | 18:04 |
kergoth | that'd make sense, was just curious | 18:04 |
kergoth | k | 18:04 |
kergoth | just making sure my understanding was accurate :) | 18:05 |
CrankDeric | kergoth: I'm just starting to experiment with it, I need to pair up with a phone and make a phone-call | 18:05 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: I wonder if it was making more sense in the long run to extend the busybox.inc to provide a package for ntpd? | 18:17 |
lpapp | I think it is at least as important as the existing hwclock package, but I might be too biased. I think ntp is common enough to have a convenience package for the init script. | 18:18 |
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lpapp | bluelightning: I will submit a working patch if I get there, and then the maintainers can consider it. | 18:42 |
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mr_science | okay, need to fix libxfce4ui again, since autoconf breaks again on the non-4.10.0 commit | 20:17 |
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