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| Marex_ | hey guys ... are we getting the heartbleed fix for yocto 1.5 by any chance ? | 10:00 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: it's being worked on as we speak | 10:02 |
| bluelightning | Marex_: thanks for the reminder though :) | 10:02 |
| bluelightning | (for master first, then we can do a backport for 1.5) | 10:02 |
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| Marex_ | bluelightning: I expected no less :) | 10:05 |
| Marex_ | bluelightning: thanks | 10:06 |
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| dany1 | heartbleed ? | 10:14 |
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| _valle_ | bluelightning: Thank you for the alsa tip yesterday | 10:46 |
| bluelightning | _valle_: np | 10:47 |
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| _valle_ | Next problem... If I add qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins to IMAGE_INSTALL I get --> ERROR: qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins not found in the base feeds | 10:55 |
| bluelightning | that means that package was never produced | 10:56 |
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| kroon | _valle_, I do have "qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins" and "qtdeclarative-qmlplugins" in my IMAGE_INSTALL, together with "qtbase-plugins" | 10:57 |
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| _valle_ | kroon: I got the "qtbase-plugins" and "qtdeclarative-qmlplugins" and that works. But when I add the "qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins" it fails | 11:12 |
| kroon | _valle_, ah yes.. you might need a PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-qtbase = " accessibility" in your distro conf, otherwise the quickcontrols package wont be built IIRC | 11:14 |
| kroon | yes, see comment in qtbase.inc | 11:15 |
| kroon | not very straightforward this, unfortunately.. | 11:16 |
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| Marex_ | dany1: http://heartbleed.com/ read this :) | 11:30 |
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| _valle_ | kroon: Thank you, solved the problem! | 12:01 |
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| rbuchmann | Hi. I bbappended the following to a recipe : do_configure_virtclass-nativesdk[noexec] = "1" // but bitbake still execute a task "configure" and fails in addition. Do you know why ? | 13:08 |
| rbuchmann | bitbake -e tells me that the do_configure[noexec] is properly expanded ;) | 13:09 |
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| kroon | _valle_, glad I could help | 14:08 |
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| scottrif | halstead: ping | 14:14 |
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| halstead | scotrif pong | 14:19 |
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| rbuchmann | do_pingpong[noexec] = "1" | 14:23 |
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| scottrif | halstead: ignore ping - was having key lock problems but I figures them out. | 14:23 |
| halstead | No problem. | 14:24 |
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| kergoth | rbuchmann: flags aren't propagated across overrides, at least they haven't in the past. that wouldn't result in do_configure[noexec] = "1". It'd stay on the _virtclass-nativesdk variable | 14:31 |
| * kergoth yawns | 14:31 | |
| rbuchmann | thx Kergoth | 14:33 |
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| denix | YPTM: Denys is here | 15:01 |
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| RP | YPTM: Richard is here | 15:02 |
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| dvhart | YPTM: Darren is on | 15:02 |
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| sgw_ | YPTM: Saul is on | 15:02 |
| ddalex_ | Alex d here | 15:02 |
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| bluelightning | YPTM: Paul Eggleton is on | 15:03 |
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| nitink | YPTM: Nitin is on | 15:03 |
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| fray | meta-cgl | 15:04 |
| bluelightning | CGL = Carrier Grade Linux (I'm assuming) | 15:04 |
| dvhart | that would make more sense :-) | 15:04 |
| dvhart | I was just trying to quickly expand it to *something* | 15:04 |
| dvhart | :-) | 15:04 |
| dvhart | thanks bluelightning | 15:04 |
| fray | AFAIK there isn't a meta-cgl anywhere... | 15:04 |
| AlexG2 | YPTM: current 1.6_M5.rc2 Status: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/1.6_QA_Status | 15:05 |
| fray | but ya.. Carrier Grade... | 15:05 |
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| halstead | YPTM Michael on | 15:05 |
| michael_e_brown | YPTM: hi all | 15:05 |
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| darknighte | YPTM: Sean Hudson from Mentor joined the YPTM | 15:06 |
| darknighte | hmm, is it me or did his voice go away? | 15:09 |
| fray | did for a sec.. but came back | 15:09 |
| fray | cut out again.. | 15:09 |
| * darknighte nods | 15:09 | |
| darknighte | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEDAM | 15:12 |
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| Jefro | Thanks, Sean - it is important to note also that OEDAM is NOT training. It is a meeting for OE and YP developers to solve some specific issues and plan for future releases. Just want to make sure everyone understands the purpose. | 15:14 |
| Jefro | I'm only saying this because I have fielded many questions about training in particular. I guess we need to continue to provide DevDays at future events! But this isn't one. | 15:15 |
| darknighte | Jefro: I forgot to make that point. Thanks. For the interested, this is intended to be a hackfest | 15:15 |
| darknighte | I wonder if there is a way to poll for interest in a DevDay later this year... | 15:15 |
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| fray | yup.. people really like the DevDay.. but it's expensive.. | 15:16 |
| darknighte | fray: you're right on that point. | 15:16 |
| Jefro | We are planning for a DevDay event at ELCE in October | 15:17 |
| * darknighte should probably catch up on his yocto-advocacy ml reading... | 15:17 | |
| bluelightning | info on the updater I was referring to: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.embedded.yocto.general/17082 | 15:18 |
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| michael_e_brown | thanks! | 15:18 |
| bluelightning | some related bugs: | 15:19 |
| bluelightning | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5584 | 15:19 |
| yocti | Bug 5584: enhancement, Medium, 1.6, tom.zanussi, NEW , Evaluate adding Stefano's update software | 15:19 |
| bluelightning | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3429 | 15:19 |
| yocti | Bug 3429: enhancement, Medium+, Future, saul.wold, ACCEPTED , create infrastructure to support direct image upgarding | 15:19 |
| darknighte | fray: you mentioned making deployment a priority | 15:20 |
| bluelightning | (the latter mentions nitra / fenrus, but I don't think that avenue has ultimately lead anywhere) | 15:20 |
| darknighte | for 1.7. RP thoughts? | 15:20 |
| RP | DarkKnight: what about it? | 15:20 |
| fray | darknighte dunno about 'priority', but 'goal'.. | 15:20 |
| fray | IMHO the product has transitioned from "lets build a system" to "lets enable the developer", and one of the key points of that is deployment.. | 15:21 |
| fray | the 'wic' stuff is one of the first pieces of the deployment puzzle | 15:21 |
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| michael_e_brown | Thanks for the BZ references. I'm taking a look, very useful. | 15:26 |
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| fray | ya.. white paper vs code may be what is appropriate right now | 15:29 |
| dvhart | fray+1 | 15:31 |
| darknighte | fray: I like that idea. | 15:31 |
| fray | like I said 'goal'.. not priority.. priority for me is we have to devote resources (we already have).. goal (we want to do this, but I don't know if we can) | 15:31 |
| RP | fray: agreed | 15:32 |
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| sjolley | YPTM is done. | 15:33 |
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| darknighte | fray: that really does sum it up. I think that was what RP was saying as well. | 15:40 |
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| kergoth | Hmm, wonder if i should patch/sed site.py to disable USER_SITE in python-native, or use a sysroot wrapper | 17:31 |
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| codinho_ | guys, is there any patch for meta-qt5 to add qtmultimedia examples? | 18:06 |
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| scottrif | Looking for Stefan Stanacar here... not sure of handle. | 18:14 |
| kergoth | RP, bluelightning: does https://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-mentor/pull/127/files seem reasonable for oe-core, or should I alter Lib/site.py in a patch or do_patch postfunc instead of do_install? I figured since it shouldn't affect the python-native build process, might as well do it as far along in the tasks as possible | 18:17 |
| * kergoth gets food | 18:17 | |
| bluelightning | kergoth: I don't know enough about this particular area to comment I'm afraid | 18:17 |
| kergoth | no worries, maybe richard will have an opinion. just needed a second set of eyes to make sure i'm not entirely insane :) | 18:18 |
| * kergoth preps rfc patch for the list to discuss it there instead | 18:20 | |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #40 of eclipse-plugin-kepler is complete: Failure [failed Building Eclipse Plugin Publishing Artifacts] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/eclipse-plugin-kepler/builds/40 | 18:24 | |
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| volker- | now the world has another bigger bug (openssl) the question is: how do I deal with it with yocto? | 18:30 |
| kergoth | it's fixed in oe-core master | 18:30 |
| kergoth | not sure about the stable branches, haven't checked | 18:31 |
| kergoth | but just updated our layers at work and saw the fix come down | 18:31 |
| bluelightning | I just sent out a backport of the fix for dora | 18:31 |
| kergoth | ah, nice | 18:31 |
| bluelightning | I'm just build-testing for dylan | 18:31 |
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| bluelightning | Saul also sent out the workaround which just disables the functionality | 18:31 |
| bluelightning | volker-: so you have three choices: use the patch to upgrade to 1.0.1g, apply the patch to add the fix only (as I've done for dora and soon dylan), or apply the workaround | 18:32 |
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| volker- | bluelightning: so it always ends in some manual work and delays? | 18:34 |
| bluelightning | volker-: if you have an alternative suggestion I'd love to hear it... | 18:34 |
| kroon | heh | 18:35 |
| volker- | bluelightning: no, just checking. yocto is a reference distribution, I don't know how stuff is managed there. Other distros (which are indeed NOT reference systems) have security advisories. So just curious how to deal with it with yocto :) | 18:35 |
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| kergoth | to clarify, yocto isn't a reference distribution, poky is :) | 18:36 |
| volker- | yeah, sorry, all a big blobb that looks from me from the outside like the same ;-) | 18:37 |
| kergoth | hehe. fair enough | 18:37 |
| volker- | bluelightning: ok, my suggestion, lets call it a dream, would be having security advisories for the core poky reference distro a lot of people seem to build there own code up on :) | 18:39 |
| bluelightning | volker-: if we had the resources for a dedicated security person, that would be the ideal situation yes | 18:41 |
| volker- | Does anyone here work on the yocto book or know where I can find the TOC? | 18:42 |
| bluelightning | volker-: the contents? surely it's at the top of the document? | 18:42 |
| bluelightning | volker-: which manual are you referring to? | 18:43 |
| volker- | bluelightning: http://www.packtpub.com/embedded-linux-development-with-yocto-project/book | 18:43 |
| bluelightning | oh, interesting... I wasn't aware that was out yet | 18:43 |
| bluelightning | otavio is one of the authors | 18:43 |
| volker- | bluelightning: it is not out yet, amazon says april 6th, but not available | 18:44 |
| volker- | amazon lists also another one for nov 5th | 18:44 |
| volker- | bluelightning: are there any available books out there? | 18:46 |
| bluelightning | I think this would probably be the most up-to-date one that I'm aware of | 18:51 |
| volker- | let's see if otavio response :) | 18:56 |
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| tlwoerner | volker: otavio and daiane are both attending the freescale tech forum (FTF) which just started today in Texas, so they're probably travelling/getting settled/at the conference | 19:00 |
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| volker- | kk :) | 19:03 |
| tlwoerner | volker-: otavio is on irc a lot, i don't know if daiane hangs out on irc, but they're both on the meta-fsl mailing list quite a bit too | 19:03 |
| tlwoerner | volker-: thanks for the link to the book, i wasn't aware of its existence :-) | 19:03 |
| volker- | tlwoerner: I would be happy if it would be on the market when I started ;-) | 19:04 |
| volker- | tlwoerner: so make the yocto page announce it ;-) | 19:04 |
| volker- | is there any basic ntp client available with the poky distro? | 19:05 |
| tlwoerner | volker-: try the metadata index: http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/ | 19:09 |
| rburton | volker: busybox can be configured to build ntp, or there's ntpd in meta-oe | 19:09 |
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| daren | Is there a document that covers all of the flags passed to the compiler for the target system (i.e. CC, CFLAGS, LDFLAGS etc)? The Reference Manual only mentions CFLAGS. | 19:11 |
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| volker- | rburton: thanks for the hint. I will modify busybox :) | 19:19 |
| volker- | how do you gusy use the openembedded layers when it comes to releases? | 19:20 |
| volker- | s/gusy/guys/ | 19:20 |
| rburton | volker-: you might want to expand that question | 19:21 |
| volker- | rburton: when you release, you want to have a repeatable procedure to re-create something 1:1. So one way is to copy the downloaded files and only use this folder on builds. | 19:22 |
| volker- | rburton: that's why you dont use git HEAD to build but a specific hash or even better use a tar.gz that doesn't change. | 19:22 |
| volker- | rburton: so I am curious how other people deal with using other layers like the ones found on openembedded.org | 19:22 |
| rburton | right, i tend to recommend people use git clones | 19:25 |
| rburton | and track the stable branches | 19:25 |
| rburton | and do mass-tagging when you make a release | 19:25 |
| rburton | use git submodules to track the layers, or repo, or something else | 19:25 |
| rburton | but fetch it all from git so you can replicate exactly, but still have an easy way to upgrade to a slightly newer stable release | 19:25 |
| volker- | hmmm | 19:27 |
| volker- | right now I think I will go with the poky tar for the release | 19:28 |
| volker- | but maybe the repo itself would be the better way | 19:28 |
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| volker- | busybox comes with its own defconfig. From my understanding this defconfig is only used because of do_prepare_config() in busybox.inc | 19:56 |
| volker- | what would be an slim way to just modify one line in the default defconfig without copying the entire file. | 19:56 |
| volker- | with the kernel you just seem to need to create another <file>.cfg | 19:56 |
| kergoth | you can use a .cfg in busybox too | 19:57 |
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| volker- | strange. If I watch the .config file and do a -c clean followed by a -c compile the variable I overwrite gets first added in do_configure, then removed and added with a time delay in do_compile | 20:05 |
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| regorianer | in what manner git repos work with yocto? if i have a git url with a specific branch and do a bitbake, later i commit a newer version to the git. what happens if i perform a new bitbake? the sources are cached, so the newer git version is not included in the new image or does the parsing recipes process check if the local git version is older than the git version of the repo??? | 20:58 |
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| kergoth | it depends on the recipe | 20:58 |
| kergoth | SRCREV defines the commit to check out. if you set it to ${AUTOREV}, it'll follow the tip of the specified branch, updating every time it parses | 20:59 |
| kergoth | updating the commit hash every time it parses, that is, not the sources, obviously :) | 20:59 |
| kergoth | (runs git ls-remote to examine the remote) | 20:59 |
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| regorianer | so, i got AUTOREV | 21:03 |
| regorianer | that means that the newer bitbake automatically merges all new commits … well rebuilds all the outdated sources? | 21:04 |
| kergoth | you also need to include SRCPV in PV, thereby ensuring that the recipe version changes increments when teh sources change | 21:07 |
| kergoth | s/increments// | 21:07 |
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| tastycactus | kergoth, thanks, that coincedentally answers my #oe question, I'm not setting SRCPV.. | 21:16 |
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| RP | kergoth: The only thing I tend to worry about is sed lines stopping applying in later versions | 21:21 |
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| RP | kergoth: Patches are much more deterministic in that regard, I know the python stuff is full of sed though | 21:22 |
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| kergoth | RP: true, that's a good point. I'll prep as a patch instead | 21:30 |
| RP | kergoth: we should probably document the preference of patches over sed somewhere as I'm seeing a lot of it and I don't think it may be a good thing | 21:35 |
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| daren | Is there a list of environment variables (e.g. CC, CFLAGS, LDFLAGS) that bitbake provides to a Makefile? | 22:02 |
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| dvhart | daren, erm... OEMAKE OEMAKE_EXTRA I think? See the reference manual | 22:10 |
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| bluelightning_ | EXTRA_OEMAKE is what you use to pass extra arguments on the make command line | 22:16 |
| bluelightning_ | which may be what you want | 22:16 |
| bluelightning_ | if you just want to see the full environment exported for a particular task (after running it), look at run.do_xyz in the temp directory under the work directory for the recipe | 22:17 |
| daren | bluelightning: run.do_xyz might be what I want | 22:18 |
| daren | dvhart: Didn't have much luck with the reference manual :) | 22:18 |
| dvhart | daren, I meant to dig more now that you had some variable names to look for. But, bluelightning's response is likely the better path. | 22:19 |
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| daren | bluelightning and dvhart, I think run.do_compile.### is what I wanted..... basically a list of what is exported (CC, PATH, AR, etc.) so I can use them in the Makefile | 22:27 |
| daren | I have a mess of a Makefile, I need to get rid of the hard-coding and let bitbake work it's magic | 22:27 |
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| maxtothemax | is beth here? | 22:35 |
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| Crofton | maxtothemax, doesn't look like it | 22:46 |
| maxtothemax | k | 22:46 |
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| volker- | the dev- and reference-manual do not talk about oe_runconf? | 23:20 |
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| volker- | oe_runconf seems to inject options that not every configure likes. How can I remove them without modifying all other builds? | 23:21 |
| kergoth | see autotools.bbclass | 23:23 |
| volker- | kergoth: is there somewhere some hidden documentation about autotools.bbclass? | 23:25 |
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| kergoth | volker-: possibly, no idea, i just read the classes, they're often not that complex, particularly in this case, it's largely just shell functions | 23:28 |
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| volker- | kergoth: thanks for the hint. I think I found what I need there | 23:32 |
| volker- | just need to find out how to remove only one line out of CONFIGUREOPTS | 23:33 |
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| kergoth | volker-: if you're using recent oe-core/poky, use _remove. CONFIGUREOPTS_remove = '--with-foo' | 23:40 |
| volker- | kergoth: cool. was looking to do something similar to that, didn't know it works there | 23:49 |
| volker- | what confsuses me is that CONFIGUREOPTS = "$CONFIGUREOPTS" doesn't work (that doesn't make sense itself, but is a good way to "test" it | 23:49 |
| volker- | ok, it seems like I can't use CONFIGUREOPTS_remove in the .bb file | 23:51 |
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