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| mago__ | what kind of modifications do the yocto kernel carry compared to the mainline kernel? i'm trying to look at the git repo, but there are _alot_ of branches. I assume the ones prefixed with "standard/" are yocto specific branches? and perhaps also the "meta" branch, which seems to contain this fragmented cfg stuff | 06:15 |
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| jeso | hello, please one quick question - how do I force RPM4 instead of RPM5? TY | 08:44 |
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| bluelightning | jeso: we don't support rpm4 at this time | 08:58 |
| bluelightning | morning all | 08:58 |
| jeso | bluelightning: so the smart package manager is useless on fedora, is that right? | 08:58 |
| bluelightning | jeso: not that I know of, why would you suspect that? | 08:59 |
| bluelightning | our use of rpm is not dependent on the host system's rpm | 08:59 |
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| jeso | bluelightning: but can I use it on target system? | 09:01 |
| bluelightning | jeso: yes | 09:01 |
| jeso | bluelightning: how? what repo to use? | 09:02 |
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| bluelightning | jeso: the idea is you're building your own distribution, so you would normally use your own repository | 09:02 |
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| bluelightning | we do provide some test repositories but there is no guarantee their contents will be maintained in a manner that allows them to be used continuously from a target | 09:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | howdy! is there some means to get sources out of a svn repository with username/password *without* having to hardcode them in the recipes? | 09:05 |
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| pev | Morning! | 10:33 |
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| pev | Just about to start designing a firmware update mechanism for my Yocto project and was just wondering if anything pre-existing in Yocto-land is worth looking at to build on before I re-invent the wheel for the Nth time... | 10:35 |
| bluelightning | there was one posted some months ago, let me grab the link | 10:39 |
| bluelightning | pev: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.eldk/2397 | 10:39 |
| bluelightning | would be great to hear how you get on with it, I've not tried it yet myself | 10:40 |
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| pev | bluelightning: Thanks - that looks very interesting indeed. It certainly sounds like it manages to tick off a lot of features...! | 10:44 |
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| vicky | Hi yocto. I am facing a problem with conflicting two packages (libiconv and eglibc). Anyway to prefer a specific package only? | 12:12 |
| mago_ | in what way are the conflicting? | 12:15 |
| mago_ | if multiple recipes provide the same package, you can set a preferred provider among those recipes | 12:15 |
| vicky | not in multiple recipes. | 12:19 |
| vicky | error: file /usr/bin/iconv conflicts between attempted installs of libiconv-1.14-r1.cortexa9_vfp_neon and eglibc-utils-2.18-r1.cortexa9_vfp_neon | 12:19 |
| bluelightning | vicky: you shouldn't be building the libiconv recipe at all with eglibc | 12:21 |
| vicky | libiconv is a RDEPENDS needed for another package | 12:24 |
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| bluelightning | vicky: yes, but eglibc provides its own libiconv - there is no need to build an additional one | 12:30 |
| bluelightning | vicky: is that an explicit RDEPENDS? if so, why? | 12:32 |
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| LetoThe2nd | howdy! is there some means to get sources out of a svn repository with username/password *without* having to hardcode them in the recipes? | 12:48 |
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| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: I saw your question earlier, I don't have a definitive answer - sorry | 12:52 |
| bluelightning | but I suspect the answer is no | 12:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: guessed so. just thought after a bunch of hours one repost is acceptable | 12:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: will have to find another way then :/ | 12:53 |
| bluelightning | I mean you could use variables in the recipe such that the recipe doesn't have the variables for username/password defined, and then set the vars in your config | 12:53 |
| bluelightning | not sure if that helps... | 12:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: its not abad thought indeed, thanks. | 12:55 |
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| mago_ | bluelightning, if a task fails due to a shell command exiting with code 1, how can i determine what shell command it was? the task is huge (due to inheritance) and I don't really know where to begin looking. the logs only state that there was an error in a shell command | 13:02 |
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| pev | LetoThe2nd: Have a look at : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2599281/cant-make-svn-store-password-even-though-the-configuration-is-set-to-allow-it | 13:06 |
| ndec | LetoThe2nd: for SVN with username/passwd, can't you use the SVN credentials in $HOME/.svn? | 13:06 |
| ndec | well... what pev said ;-) | 13:07 |
| ndec | that's what i am doing for some private repo in svn | 13:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | pev: ndec: i'm so totally no svn man, so i don't even know where to look... so thanks! | 13:07 |
| ndec | well, the idea is to store the credentials in $HOME, and in the recipe you don't put the information about user/passwd | 13:08 |
| pev | :-D I remember when SVN was new and shiny and an exciting step forward from CVS/RCS :-D | 13:08 |
| pev | Everyones all git-this, git-that these days ;-) | 13:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: yeah thats about what i need. | 13:08 |
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| * LetoThe2nd hands pev an "old man" badge ;) | 13:08 | |
| pev | :-P | 13:08 |
| pev | Mate, I may be nearly 40 but I'm still out having more fun than most in their 20's... | 13:09 |
| bluelightning | pev: LetoThe2nd: it may be that we tell svn not to read that file, I'm not sure | 13:09 |
| bluelightning | (to avoid conflicts with user configuration) | 13:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | pev: no offense meant! | 13:09 |
| pev | LetoThe2nd: None taken :-D | 13:09 |
| ndec | bluelightning: no, that method is working fine | 13:09 |
| pev | LetoThe2nd: I'd consider scripting it via a variable though as it gives you more control in your build for the same reason as bluelightning says... | 13:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: great :) | 13:10 |
| pev | Having dependencies on user config isn't the best thing, but whinging when someone hasn't set it in local.conf is safer... | 13:10 |
| bluelightning | ndec: ok, it might have been another VCS or maybe my memory is just faulty ;) | 13:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | pev: yeah thats for sure. its just about "getting it to work first, polish later" | 13:10 |
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| pev | Sometimes its easier to do the right thing first time round than remember to 'fix' in the future mind :-D | 13:11 |
| pev | Not that my current codebase is littered with "// TODO : ..." or anything.... *ahem* | 13:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | need a pullmoll? | 13:12 |
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| Xz | hello there | 15:09 |
| bluelightning | hi Xz | 15:09 |
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| staylor | what is the correct way to tell my local.conf (or other config) to include a specific nativesdk-* package when doing a populate_sdk? It seems to figure out most things it needs automatically but misses the qt5 nativesdk files. | 15:33 |
| kergoth | take a look at th etop of the bbclass, the vars are there | 15:34 |
| kergoth | i never remember them off the top of my head, i just re-examine the class to get them | 15:34 |
| staylor | but you take one of those and stick it in your local.conf ? | 15:35 |
| kergoth | from populate_sdk_base.bbclass, TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK. so set TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK_append = " nativesdk-foo" | 15:35 |
| staylor | okay that's what I tried first since the docs seem to hint at this, but it errors out because it can't find a canadian cross build definition | 15:37 |
| kergoth | the qt5 sdk thing is a big one, many folks are asking about it, and some folks are working on it, see the mailing lists, there's probably info on it there somewhere. i don't really know the status, personally | 15:37 |
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| * kergoth mulls over the possibility of asking the UI to prompt for username/password, and adding a github fetcher that uses the API and supports 2-factor auth | 17:26 | |
| bluelightning | kergoth: it's possible, but then do we really want interactivity in bitbake's UI? | 17:31 |
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| kergoth | we already behave specially on interactive terminals than non, and i think it's better than git/svn hanging on an input prompt, or just being unable to fetch at all | 17:32 |
| kergoth | could cache the cookies for the auth | 17:32 |
| * kergoth shrug | 17:32 | |
| * nerdboy caches a muffin for later | 17:33 | |
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| bluelightning | kergoth: well clearly hanging on the prompt is a bug | 17:35 |
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| kergoth | requiring the user to either hardcode ssh into the recipe or use git url replacements to switch from https to ssh for github private repositories is not ideal either | 17:36 |
| Crofton|work | the hanging on the prompt is really annoying | 17:37 |
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| tastycactus | I'm writing a recipe for a python package out of pypi, is there an easy way to determine its RDEPENDS? | 17:41 |
| kergoth | read the pypi metadata or setup.py requires | 17:41 |
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| kergoth | Hmm, itd be cool if our fetchers could do mime type verification, with a heuristic default of expected mime type | 17:45 |
| kergoth | then if you're in a sitaution where a failure to resolve leads to an html doc being downloaded, we'd spot that explicitly, rather than just a checksum mismatch | 17:46 |
| tastycactus | kergoth, I mean more of the std library requires. It seems like the std library was split up into python-core, python-io, python-re, etc. So I'd need to analyze the imports and check them against the manifest.inc? | 17:47 |
| kergoth | ah, yes, indeed. we're hoping to automate that in the future | 17:48 |
| kergoth | i have a work-in-progress dependency scanner for python code, but it almost always requires manual checking for cases of complex imports, try/except chains, etc | 17:48 |
| kergoth | tastycactus: you could try running this against it manually: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kergoth/meta-package-auto-deps/master/scripts/pythondeps | 17:49 |
| tastycactus | Where can I find that? Maybe I can help progress it.. | 17:49 |
| tastycactus | Thanks | 17:49 |
| kergoth | https://github.com/kergoth/meta-package-auto-deps is the layer for it | 17:49 |
| kergoth | patches welcome. there's a todo, iirc. | 17:49 |
| kergoth | the problem is this manual review and/or excludes. i'm not convinced this should be automatic at package time, it might be better as an opt-in process, when you're developing the recipe | 17:50 |
| kergoth | I did it as a general framework for handling automatic deps/provides, with the intent that the framework could be used for pkgconfig, python, shlibs, and others | 17:50 |
| kergoth | haven't had time to work on it recently | 17:51 |
| kergoth | there's an open yocto issue for it, got postponed to the 1.7 timeframe | 17:51 |
| tastycactus | Yeah, I was thinking just a script that could grep for imports and find the packages in the manifest | 17:54 |
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| kergoth | Hmm, we should look at minimizing some patchsets where possible. e.g. for autoconf, autoreconf-exclude can likely go away in favor of translating the exclusions in autotools.bbclass to empty the env vars. e.g. GETTEXTIZE= | 18:15 |
| kergoth | for 1.7, that is | 18:15 |
| kergoth | xmkmf could be killed by an intercept, thoug that wouldn't help the x11 search paths part of that patch | 18:16 |
| kergoth | still, aligning more closely with upstream would be for the best, i think.. | 18:16 |
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| j8 | anyone know how to use layerversion in yocto-autobuilder? | 21:24 |
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