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* nerdboy got lost in the python clips for a while...00:29
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #89 of nightly-ppc is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-ppc/builds/8906:19
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mckoangood morning07:00
mckoanvolker: hi07:00
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akSCould I lowercase a variable inside a bb recipe?07:19
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mckoanakS: AFAIK lower()08:20
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syncbqhi guys, I was wondering how you compile an old yocto on a newer hw (with a newer linux distro that is not supported)08:22
syncbqis it possible to not use  virtual machine and create some chroot jail?08:31
erbosyncbq: do you run into some problem building, or are you only worried about the warning?08:32
syncbqfedora 20 will fail to compile yocto1.208:32
syncbqit is not in the supported distro08:33
syncbqbut on newer hw I can't run old distros08:33
syncbqmaybe ubuntu 12.04 LTS but it has some problems too with newer laptops08:34
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bluelightningmorning all08:35
erbosyncbq: if the build issue you're seeing is due to newer GCC maybe you can just install and use an older version of that. Otherwise I guess a VM or to chroot into an older version will work.08:35
syncbqaha so chroot is an option08:35
syncbqI am trying to avoid VM08:36
erboI think, I have never tried it. But can't really think of a reason why it wouldn't work :)08:36
syncbqI am trying to avoid VM due to time wasted08:36
syncbqthanks erbo08:37
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darknightesgw_: sjolley: will there be any other changes in 1.4.4?15:07
sjolleyNo features or upgrades beyond patches open against 1.4.x15:08
RPdarknighte: that machine file is like something out the dark ages, you can kill GLIBC_ADDONS = "nptl" ;-)15:12
darknighteRP: there are a *lot* of rough edges.15:12
darknightehalstead: I just noticed that there don't appear to be any messages in the archive for meta-amd15:13
darknightewould you take a look? there should be the initial announcment at least.15:14
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halsteaddarknighte, https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-amd/2014-May/000000.html is the only one I see.15:16
darknightehalstead: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-amd/ doesn't show that message15:18
darknighteRP: I just opened in internal issue to address it though.15:18
halsteaddarknighte, It does show in my browser. Are you behind a caching proxy perhaps?15:20
darknightenot that I know of....15:21
darknighteI wonder if my provider is doing somthing shady15:21
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darknighteweird.  I think it may be a chrome thing.15:22
darknighteI just forced a reload and there it is.15:22
PiziwateHello, Is there a simple way to create a receipe to add a custom device tree (dts file) in the linux-yocto (3.14, Daisy version) ? I'm working on beaglebone machine. I want to have the devicetree-uImage-am335x-boneblack.dtb + devicetree-uImage-am335x-custom.dtb.15:23
halsteaddarknighte, Sounds like all is well now.15:23
darknightehalstead: for the most part, except that I *know* I refreshed that page a few times without seeing the message.15:24
darknightenow, I'm going to develop a nervous tic of reloading pages.  ;)15:24
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halsteaddarknighte, I can force a shorter expires header for the list archives. I think it's five minutes at the moment.15:26
darknightehalstead: nah.  sounds like a local issue for me.15:27
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Crofton|workdarknighte, people that do BSP's need to recall that we may build with multiple BSP's in our layer stack16:24
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darknighteCrofton|work: any specific suggestions of things to fix?16:43
kergothCrofton|work: at mentor, we use setup scripts which accept the machine as an argument, and pull in just hte layers needed for that machine, but we realize that most don't do that, most just include all, so in general we do try to make sure our layers are well behaved, but it's easy to miss something since we aren't always set up that way16:43
kergothdarknighte: https://github.com/kergoth/oe-test-scripts/blob/master/leaky-layer-tests may be of interest, though it won't help with the machine .conf badness16:44
Crofton|workI suspect you need to watch for setting preferred versions of things that are not machine specific16:44
kergoththis at least makes sure that all the bbappends use overrides properly to avoid breaking things when you aren't configuring for that machine16:44
darknightekergoth: thx for the link.  I'll take a look.16:44
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darknighteCrofton|work: RP pointed out something similar and it's on the todo soon list16:45
kergothit takes a build without that layer, takes a list of the appends in the layer, then uses bitbake -S to emit the information about those recipes, then it adds that layer to the build and uses bitbake-whatchanged (or, in the future, bitbake -S printdiff) to compare before and after and watch for changes that occurred solely as a result of including the layer, without opt-ing in to its machines16:46
Crofton|workI would comment where you have specific version deps so distro people have good guidance and others can set locl.conf16:46
RPkergoth: We should make that part of YP Compatible16:46
kergothThat's a good idea, particularly for BSP layers16:46
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frayRP I agree..16:50
frayBSP layers should be careful to only affect the BSP..16:50
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Crofton|workI think koen screams anytime he notices a bsp with issues, but I'd like to not use that as the primary QC test :)16:51
* kergoth wonders if bitbake -S printdiff or bitbake-whatchanged spots changes to file-checksums, or to selection of override-specific file:// files16:52
kergothCrofton|work: hehe16:52
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RPkergoth: the file checksums are included so it should16:59
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darknighteRP: kergoth: that check sounds like a good idea to add to YP compatible17:05
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kergothseebs: I'm seeing inexplicably changing ownership on some files in the rootfs. Any suggestions on how I'd determine if pseudo is to blame, or if something else is going on?17:57
kergothseebs: changing from one b uild to the next, that is17:57
seebsWell, that's quite *likely* a pseudo thing.17:57
kergothseebs: we're seeing random files in the rootfs owned by xuser, and then possibly back to root the next time17:58
seebsFirst thing I'd look for would be non-zero-size pseudo.log files.17:58
kergoththe build before this i saw a bunch of files go g+s on the dirs, totally weird17:58
seebsThat's the sort of thing that happens if files escape.17:58
kergothokay, where are those located?17:58
kergothnever had a need to debug pseudo before :)17:58
seebs<pseudo_directory>/var/pseudo, next to the files.db files.17:58
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seebsI think every work dir gets its own.17:58
kergothgoing to also do some comparison between packages-split in pseudo context, ipk contents, and rootfs contents, to see if they're all the same as they should be17:59
kergoththanks for the pointer17:59
kergoththis is an annoying one :)17:59
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Crofton|workdamn it, missed th TSC meeting19:06
Crofton|workreading the log19:06
Crofton|workin between boat tasks19:06
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kergothseebs: hmm, seeing lots of path and inode mismatches. i'm guessing the path mismatch isn't harmful due to hard links, but the inode mismatch sounds slightly more concerning20:43
seebsIf it doesn't have a link count of 2 or higher, a path mismatch is also concerning.20:43
seebsAnd in general, an inode mismatch means that pseudo previously saw a file with some inode X, and is now seeing it with a different inode not-X, and this means that something shuffled files outside of pseudo, and can result in Weird Stuff.20:44
kergoththere's at least one 1 link path mismatch20:44
kergothI'm doing rm -rf tmp cache; bitbake —no-setscene core-image-base; in a loop, and watching the changes to buildhistory from build to build. so far i've seen busybox.suid go from non-setuid to setuid, a library go from 0644 to 0755, and the ownership on the opkg package feed change from my uid to root/root or back again20:46
seebsYeah, that is definitely Not Right.20:47
seebsThat worries me, because obviously this has been stable for a pretty long time, and while I've done some pseudo work recently, none of it's gone in-tree that I know of.20:47
kergothwill try a pure poky build without any mentor layers to see if its reproducible there as well, or if there's possibly something odd in our builds20:48
kergoththough what would do *this* i haven't the foggiest :)20:48
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volkerDoes someone uses external shell variables in Yocto? I tried BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE (which does not seem to be documented anymore) without success22:14
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kergothvolker: i do, what's the issue?22:31
volkerkergoth: how do you get the variables in?22:31
volkerkergoth: I try BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE = "$BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE BUILD_TAG BUILD_NUMBER BUILD_NAME BUILD_URL" in local.conf without success22:32
kergothadd the variable name to BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE. that will get it into the metadata (you can verify this with bitbake -e), but it won't automatically re-export them into child processes of the build, you'd have to add 'export FOO' for each var in the metadata for that22:32
kergoth"without success" is pretty useless. how did you verify it?22:32
kergothneed mor edetail than that22:32
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kergothalso, if you source the oe-init-build-env after you set BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE, the setup script will overwrite your value22:33
kergothit doesn't append to it22:33
kergothso you have to set that after sorucing22:33
volkerkergoth: If I run  export BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE="$BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE BUILD_TAG BUILD_NUMBER BUILD_NAME BUILD_URL" before the bitbake command it works22:33
kergothotherwise $BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE wont be what you think it is22:33
kergothright, so, problem solved22:33
volkerso I can't set it in local.conf?22:33
volkerkergoth: actually I don't need to do an extra export in the recipe22:34
kergothby the time local.conf is parsed, bitbake is long past the env filtering22:34
kergothand its already removed those things22:34
kergothso no, you can't22:34
kergothit has to be in the shell environment22:34
volkersomething else, is there a way to set the variable if it is not set? In the common shells this would be ${VARIABLE:-value_if_not_set}, but doesn't work in yocto22:35
kergoththat's what ?= is22:37
kergothit's used all over22:37
kergothsame as in a makefile22:37
volkerkergoth: it works in the recipe?22:37
kergothi don't understand theq uestion22:38
kergoth?= in bitbake metadata is set if not already set22:38
kergothit doesn't care where it happens to be22:38
kergothconfijg file or recipe or bbclass, irrelevent22:38
volkerkergoth: I want to overwrite the variable in the recipe if it is not set22:38
kergothI really don't know how many more times you want me to repeat this22:39
kergothFOO ?= "bar" sets FOO to bar if FOO wasn't already set22:39
volkerkergoth: sorry, was a response to you "don't understand the question"22:39
kergothi know, what confused me was where else you thought i was talking about other than in the recipe22:39
kergoth?= isn't valid shell syntax22:39
volkerlocal.conf etc.22:40
kergothso its obviously bitbake22:40
kergothrecipe file format is the config file format + other stuff22:40
kergothanything valid in a config file is valid in a recipe22:40
kergothjust not vice versa22:40
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volkerkk, thanks :)22:40
kergothseebs: FYI, in case you want to try to repro, I'm doing this: while true; do rm -rf tmp cache; bitbake --no-setscene core-image-base && buildhistory-diff | mail -s "Build completed: $(date)" kergoth@gmail.com; done22:43
kergoththen the deltas just keep showing up in the inbox22:43
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volkerthat's interesting. Never heared about buildhistory-diff :)22:48
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volkerkergoth: do you use some kind of scripts for your different builds? Or do you just throw the few commands into your build system?22:49
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kergothit depends on what i'm doing, and also which setup / which setup scripts i'm using. the mentor setup scripts accept a machine, and arguments for additional layers, which is more convenient than scripting edits to bblayers.conf, for example22:55
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