| khem | did prelink git repo got rebased on yp org ? | 00:23 |
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| khem | whatever SHA is locked in for dora branch is no more fetchable | 00:24 |
| khem | and I dont see that in the git repo anymore whats up here ? | 00:24 |
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| T0mW | I have a makefile based 32bit app that I'm trying to put under a recipe. The issue that I'm having is that the build keeps trying to link it to the X86_64 bit libs (the native sysroot as the host is 64bit). The libs in question is ncurses, any suggestions? | 17:37 |
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| nerdboy | not sure what you mean.. are you building for an x86 machine? | 17:47 |
| nerdboy | is it trying to build a native package? | 17:47 |
| T0mW | no, target system is 32bit. | 17:47 |
| nerdboy | then it shouldn't matter if the host is 64bit or not | 17:47 |
| T0mW | build for the target. The build does compile the objects into 32bit, but then trys to link to 64bit libraries. | 17:48 |
| nerdboy | ie, if MACHINE is something like qemux86 it should build a 32bit x86 binary | 17:48 |
| nerdboy | wrong sysroot? | 17:49 |
| T0mW | MACHINE is not qemu, it is a real device. | 17:49 |
| T0mW | heh | 17:49 |
| nerdboy | you could try forcing it i suppose | 17:49 |
| T0mW | the run.do_configure is pointing to correct sysroot PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR="/home/tom/Projects/CPU8/Dora/cpu8/tmp/sysroots/cpu8" | 17:50 |
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| T0mW | LD="i586-poky-linux-ld --sysroot=/home/tom/Projects/CPU8/Dora/cpu8/tmp/sysro | 17:50 |
| T0mW | ots/cpu8 " | 17:50 |
| T0mW | so the configure is correct. | 17:51 |
| T0mW | that is where the 32bit target libs are. | 17:51 |
| T0mW | I dunno, I'll just keep banging away at it. This app is different as it is linking against ncurses. | 17:52 |
| nerdboy | there should be a -L in there somewhere if it's finding the wrong ones | 17:53 |
| nerdboy | are you getting the "unsafe for cross compile" error, or is it finding the native sysroot? | 17:54 |
| T0mW | no unsafe, it appears to be looking into the native sysroot. I turned on the -v of gcc and am going through that now. I think the thing to do is go into devshell, edit the run.do_compile and get it "corrected". That may give me more info as to what is going on. | 17:57 |
| T0mW | I can build this app on the target system (have gcc + the libs there), so I know the makefile does work. | 17:57 |
| T0mW | problem is the cross build under bitbake. | 17:58 |
| T0mW | I keep coming up with linking errors: undefined reference to `werase' | 17:58 |
| T0mW | just when you think that you understand how to use bitbake, it smacks you upside the head... | 17:59 |
| T0mW | I've been doing this stuff (oe) for nearly 4 years, it still gets nasty at times. | 18:00 |
| nerdboy | is the x86 ncurses built correctly? | 18:00 |
| nerdboy | ie, does the wide lib exist? | 18:01 |
| nerdboy | and does your make file define/use the SYSROOT and other vars in it? | 18:02 |
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| T0mW | No, my makefile does not define sysroot, removed competing defines such as "CC=$(CROSS)gcc" from it as well. The makefile is very simple, one source file, one header file, and 14 lines in the make. | 18:07 |
| T0mW | including blanks. | 18:07 |
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| T0mW | I think my best bet is to edit the run.do_compile. | 18:07 |
| nerdboy | you could try adding a few back... | 18:08 |
| nerdboy | CROSS=TARGET_PREFIX stuff like that | 18:08 |
| T0mW | hmm, yeah, I have another simple app that bitbake builds just fine. But, that one only uses libc to link against. | 18:08 |
| nerdboy | you can test the makefile by hand with those things defined on the commandline | 18:09 |
| T0mW | I'm assuming the ncurses lib is present (I see it under the correct sysroot) and is 32bit as it does get loaded into the target image. | 18:09 |
| nerdboy | ie, test building cross by hand, without those it should build native | 18:10 |
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| nerdboy | does the recipe use oe_runmake or just make? | 18:11 |
| T0mW | BUILD_CFLAGS and BUILD_LDFLAGS are both pointing into the native library areas instead of into the 32bit lib sysroot'ed area. | 18:27 |
| T0mW | change that and it builds. So, it appears that bitbake does not know / recognize that the app is NOT a native app, but one that is for the target system. | 18:28 |
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| T0mW | This is true also for my other application (that does not link against anything else), the same issue is there, wrong sysroot. | 18:28 |
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| T0mW | the correct compiler and linker are used, but the -L and -I parameters are totally wrong. | 18:29 |
| T0mW | again, they point into the native area. | 18:29 |
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| T0mW | I don't think this is a recipe problem, per se. I think that there must be something in the meta/conf/machine/ file that needs to be there to tell bitbake that the target is a 32bit. apparently, bitbake thinks the target is 64bit. | 18:34 |
| nerdboy | can you paste the makefile? | 18:34 |
| T0mW | TESTBUS=testBus | 18:34 |
| T0mW | TESTBUSRC=busTest.c | 18:34 |
| T0mW | TESTBUSOBJS=$(subst .c,.o,$(TESTBUSRC)) | 18:34 |
| T0mW | all: $(TESTBUS) | 18:34 |
| T0mW | $(TESTBUS): $(TESTBUSOBJS) | 18:34 |
| T0mW | @$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -v $(TESTBUSOBJS) -o $(TESTBUS) -lncurses | 18:34 |
| T0mW | clean: | 18:34 |
| T0mW | @rm -f *~ *.P | 18:34 |
| T0mW | @rm -f $(TESTBUS) $(TESTBUSOBJS) | 18:34 |
| nerdboy | i meant psatebin... | 18:35 |
| T0mW | ok | 18:35 |
| T0mW | http://pastebin.com/rRcKFFu2 | 18:35 |
| nerdboy | i would avoid setting things like CFLAGS/LDFLAGS and similar | 18:36 |
| nerdboy | use MY_CFLAGS instead in your makefile | 18:36 |
| nerdboy | otherwise you're overriding the bitbake env stuff | 18:37 |
| T0mW | I can take that out but don't think it makes any difference. I'm not overriding / adding to CFLAGS | 18:37 |
| T0mW | that's it. | 18:40 |
| T0mW | Why is the mention of CFLAGS doing this? | 18:40 |
| T0mW | that is weird. | 18:42 |
| T0mW | nerdboy: thank you! | 18:42 |
| nerdboy | works now? | 18:43 |
| T0mW | builds anyway, I'll load up this board with the new image and try it out. It should work, now that I'm past the linker. | 18:48 |
| T0mW | This is odd, CFLAGS does not have a mention of a sysroot, while BUILD_CFLAGS does. It seems that using CFLAGS on the compile line is overriding the values in BUILD_CFLAGS | 18:51 |
| T0mW | Not sure, will have to drill a bit deeper. | 18:51 |
| T0mW | btw, BUILD_CFLAGS does have the correct sysroot in it. | 18:51 |
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| jyan | Are Yocto or Poky suitable if all I need is to build tools for cross-development? I don't need to compile a kernel or mount a filesystem, just userspace code. Specifically I'm looking to work on beaglebone | 20:19 |
| nerdboy | yeah, you can built sdk/adt/other tools | 20:22 |
| nerdboy | they have bitbake targets too | 20:23 |
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| jyan | Okay that is what I thought, I'm working through the documentation here for building the adt, but i'm running into an error. It's just saying that the DISTRO angstrom-v2013.12 is not found. Do I need to build angstrom before it can build the cross development tools? | 20:26 |
| nerdboy | no | 20:27 |
| jyan | Same error for bitbake adt-installer, and bitbake meta-toolchain | 20:27 |
| nerdboy | the DISTRO setting seems off | 20:27 |
| nerdboy | what repos did you clone for core stuff? | 20:28 |
| nerdboy | poky? oe-core? | 20:28 |
| jyan | I'm using poky | 20:28 |
| nerdboy | did you use the angstrom setup script? | 20:28 |
| jyan | I sourced the oe-init-build-env script | 20:29 |
| nerdboy | then it should default to poky-version-blah | 20:29 |
| nerdboy | in local.conf | 20:29 |
| nerdboy | did you set angstrom somewhere? | 20:29 |
| jyan | I set machine to beaglebone | 20:29 |
| nerdboy | grep for that distro string | 20:29 |
| jyan | and the DISTRO variable is set to poky | 20:30 |
| nerdboy | grep for that angstrom distro string | 20:30 |
| jyan | in local.conf? | 20:31 |
| nerdboy | what layers are you using besides poky? | 20:31 |
| jyan | I've only been looking into this stuff for a few hours, i'm honestly not sure | 20:31 |
| jyan | just trying to follow the documentation under "Using the ADT installer" | 20:32 |
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| jyan | In bblayers.conf is listed poky/meta, poky/meta-yocto, poky/meta-yocto-bsp | 20:33 |
| nerdboy | well, the first time you source that script, it creates a build tree with a conf dir, you need to edit local.conf and bblayers.conf | 20:33 |
| nerdboy | you need some other layers | 20:33 |
| nerdboy | clone meta-ti and look at the layer deps in the readme | 20:33 |
| nerdboy | probably meta-openembbed and meta-ti would do it | 20:34 |
| * nerdboy never tried to build anything with just poky before... | 20:37 | |
| jyan | Is that not an advisable approach? | 20:38 |
| T0mW | I build some apps outside of poky using the compiler + libs from poky. | 20:40 |
| T0mW | devshell is not the best solution for software cross-dev. | 20:41 |
| T0mW | just sysroot your makefile | 20:41 |
| jyan | What does that mean? | 20:42 |
| T0mW | jyan, as an example, look at the gcc doc (e.g. man gcc) and search for --sysroot | 20:43 |
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| T0mW | jyan: but, if all you need is the binutils, gcc stuff, then a simple path statement would do. | 20:47 |
| T0mW | sysroot if you want to link into the libraries created by poky for the target arch (e.g. libc, libncurses, etc.) | 20:47 |
| jyan | Yeah i just read the sysroot option. Don't I still need to build a suitable compiler though? | 20:48 |
| T0mW | jyan: yes | 20:49 |
| T0mW | jyan: what is your target processor? | 20:49 |
| jyan | I'm just trying to cross-compile for beaglebone, so ARM | 20:49 |
| nerdboy | clone meta-ti, as it's more uptodate than meta-beaglebaord | 20:52 |
| jyan | Okay, I'm cloning meta-ti and openembedded-core | 20:54 |
| jyan | these are referred to as layers? | 20:54 |
| T0mW | The trick that I use to sysroot into poky so i can build outside of poky, is that I take one of the run.do_compile that were built under tmp/work, modify it, then include it into my Makefile. | 20:54 |
| T0mW | heh, like onions? | 20:55 |
| jyan | What is the reason to want to build outside of poky? | 20:56 |
| T0mW | jyan, every try to develop an app while building INSIDE poky? | 20:57 |
| T0mW | clumsy | 20:57 |
| jyan | I almost no development experience in embedded i'm a student | 20:57 |
| jyan | I've done some work with the STM discovery, but I just used their IDE | 20:58 |
| T0mW | building outside poky allows me to use a git repo redirectly, rather than wrestling with git-indirection. | 20:58 |
| T0mW | that would be the other thing, if you are using eclipse (i don't) it is easier to do. Devshell is okay for resolving recipe issues with something already written, but if you try to write something from scratch, devshell can get in your way really quickly. | 21:00 |
| jyan | I'm trying to avoid using IDEs like eclipse, I learn a lot more doing it like this | 21:00 |
| T0mW | For me, just forget to update the repo and go for a full build by eraseing the tmp/ tree. Then your source changes disappear. too dangerous. | 21:01 |
| jyan | I see | 21:01 |
| T0mW | jyan: that's fine. I'm a vi + makefile guy. | 21:01 |
| T0mW | I'd sooner write a make script than run up an ide. | 21:01 |
| jyan | Yeah | 21:02 |
| jyan | My understanding is that I can build a toolchain, and link it to the right libraries, then work outside of poky in my own git repo? | 21:03 |
| T0mW | absolutely. | 21:03 |
| jyan | but its necessary to build the toolchain and get the libraries in poky | 21:04 |
| T0mW | correct | 21:04 |
| jyan | alright | 21:04 |
| jyan | Now just trying to figure out how to get it to build | 21:04 |
| T0mW | I build on new iron, so I need to build the file system image to load into the target system(s). Then, once I have the basic system booting up, then I can build my specific applications for the device (target system). | 21:05 |
| jyan | I'm trying to avoid having to build the whole fs, the board is already running | 21:06 |
| T0mW | I do that via sysroot. Nothing different from what they are doing, at the basic level, in poky. It is the same approach, but, I do not build my value-added apps under the tmp/work tree. | 21:06 |
| T0mW | jyan, slow dev box? | 21:06 |
| jyan | I could build it, but I'm trying to tackle one thing at a time haha | 21:07 |
| nerdboy | just follow the meta-ti readme as if you were building it all | 21:14 |
| nerdboy | then start with the meta-toolchain build | 21:14 |
| nerdboy | you should get a build info listing once it parses everything | 21:15 |
| nerdboy | like this => https://github.com/sarnold/meta-alt-desktop-extras/wiki/Layer-Config | 21:16 |
| nerdboy | don't overcomplicate it... ;) | 21:16 |
| jyan | Alright I think I have something working, it is parsing recipes... | 21:24 |
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| kergoth | T0mW: by default, unless you inherit autotools, we have -e in EXTRA_OEMAKE, which says obey vars from the environment in preference to the vars in the file. it means it Just Works more often than not, but it can cause consequences where things you want to retain are lost. you can alter EXTRA_OEMAKE to explicitly pass the variables in, and in the makefile it should ideally distinguish between the options that are required and those which can be | 22:15 |
| kergoth | overridden. e.g. -W & the like belong separate from -O2 & the like. you can also use e.g. "override FOO += bar" to forcibly append bar to FOO even if FOO came from the environment and make was run with -e | 22:15 |
| kergoth | not sure if thats the issue you were hitting, i only skimmed the scrollback, but it's useful information regardless :) | 22:15 |
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| T0mW | kergoth: kind of figured that EXTRA_OEMAKE was / has to be involved. | 22:16 |
| kergoth | it was a terrible thing in retrospect, we should have forced people to be explicit when passing variables in, so it's more clear exactly what's happening | 22:17 |
| T0mW | kergoth: the app builds, cannot look too deeply into this, I have 10 days to get the unit ready for a show in Las Vegas. :( | 22:17 |
| * kergoth nods | 22:17 | |
| T0mW | kergoth: good info though, it means that I will look more closely into how run.do_compile behaves. | 22:18 |
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| jyan | has anyone ran into "ParseError ... unparsed line" before? | 22:50 |
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| nerdboy | missing quote mark maybe? | 23:25 |
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| jyan | Yeah I had actually just fat-fingered something >.> | 23:27 |
| * nerdboy has skinny fincgers | 23:42 | |
| nerdboy | doesn't help | 23:42 |
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