| maxtothemax | so ${sysconfdir} is usually just /etc, and you prepend ${D} to get the proper path in your recipes | 00:02 |
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| maxtothemax | but with -native recipes, ${sysconfdir} is actually a complete path, and ${D}${sysconfdir} is invalid | 00:02 |
| maxtothemax | what's up with that? | 00:02 |
| maxtothemax | frankly, it doesn't matter, because the files in /etc/ will be ignored in the -native version, I can just suppress them from being installed | 00:04 |
| maxtothemax | but I don't want to add extra code for it to my recipe if I don't have to | 00:04 |
| kergoth | it's not invalid | 00:05 |
| kergoth | it'll be a crazy deep path, but it doesn't matter, the code which installs it into the sysroot should be compensating | 00:05 |
| kergoth | (and does) | 00:05 |
| maxtothemax | I'm getting sysconfdir = "/home/maxtothemax/poky-bootchart2/build/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/etc" for -native | 00:06 |
| maxtothemax | instead of just /etc | 00:06 |
| maxtothemax | so ${D}${sysconfdir} is /home/maxtothemax/poky-bootchart2/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/bootchart2-native/0.14.6+gitAUTOINC+f1bd345036-r0/image/home/maxtothemax/poky-bootchart2/build/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/etc | 00:07 |
| maxtothemax | seems a little odd to me? | 00:07 |
| kergoth | that's fine, and expected | 00:10 |
| kergoth | prefix is set to the sysroot for native recipes to avoid issues with relocation | 00:10 |
| maxtothemax | I figured out the problem | 00:10 |
| maxtothemax | I was calling update-rc.d ${D} | 00:10 |
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| maxtothemax | which I don't need to do anyway for -native | 00:11 |
| kergoth | you should be inheriting the bbclass, not calling it directly, which will work fine for native or non-native | 00:11 |
| kergoth | as its called in the postinst, which isn't run for native | 00:12 |
| maxtothemax | will look into that thanks | 00:12 |
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| Marex | uh meh, Yocto 1.6.1 meta-toolchain-qte is somewhat strange | 00:22 |
| Marex | I built this one, then I tried to do a debug build of a simple Qt application and for some reason, even during debug build, the Qt application uses optimization flags contained in regular CFLAGS | 00:23 |
| Marex | and also, during 'release' build, the result is still containing debugging symbols | 00:24 |
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| Marex | ah ... so the environment-setup-armv5te-linux-gnueabi script puts $CFLAGS into OE_QMAKE_CFLAGS and therefore they are included in both release and debug builds of the Qt project | 00:26 |
| Marex | but as CFLAGS contains both -g and -O2 , those also leak into both release and debug build, so I always have debug symbols in the resulting binary | 00:26 |
| Marex | urmmmmm | 00:27 |
| Marex | aha ... looks like the meta/recipes-qt/meta/meta-toolchain-qt.inc will need to do some preprocessing by stripping the -Ox and -g flags from CFLAGS and LDFLAGS and leave that to the Qmake to configure those | 00:30 |
| Marex | is that right ? | 00:39 |
| Marex | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2013-June/014502.html someone actually complained about this before, hm | 00:44 |
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| khem | Marex: from OEs POV its ok since debug info will be stripped out into packages of its own | 01:10 |
| khem | it doesnt rely on components ( qt here ) buildsystem to do that | 01:11 |
| khem | darknighte: you got through the problem or still muddling ? | 01:11 |
| Marex | khem: I am just looking into it | 01:15 |
| Marex | khem: the problem is noticable when you build the SDK (the meta-toolchain-qte) and use it outside of yocto | 01:15 |
| Marex | khem: even in debug build, the -O2 optimization is enabled , which probably is not something you want in a debug build | 01:16 |
| Marex | khem: if I were to remove SELECTED_OPTIMIZATION from the SDK OE_QMAKE_CFLAGS and OE_QMAKE_CXXFLAGS, then that'd probably solve part of the problem ... LDFLAGS would still be troublesome | 01:16 |
| Marex | still ... it's not like I am confident in what I am talking about , sorry | 01:17 |
| Marex | btw this changed between Denzil and Danny , in Denzil (7.0) the env setup script still worked correctly, but in Danny (8.0) I am getting this leaking of flags | 01:20 |
| khem | one should debug the final code | 01:22 |
| khem | using different O level | 01:22 |
| khem | is a wrong preset | 01:22 |
| khem | you test and debug the code that you wont ship | 01:23 |
| Marex | khem: during debug, I don't want my code to be optimized so I can inspect it proper | 01:24 |
| Marex | khem: during release, I want for the code to be optimized | 01:24 |
| Marex | khem: btw. that's how it worked in 7.0 , in 8.0 the behavior changed so the flags are now leaking into both builds | 01:24 |
| khem | believe me you dont want that | 01:25 |
| khem | besides that | 01:25 |
| Marex | ok, so I do want to debug code which is optimized ... where symbols are "(optimized out)", so it's impossible to tell etc. | 01:25 |
| khem | usually -g -O2 | 01:25 |
| khem | is most common development option | 01:26 |
| Marex | ok, so when I do "qmake CONFIG += release ", I should expect the resulting build to contain debugging symbols ? | 01:27 |
| khem | it should not | 01:28 |
| Marex | it does | 01:28 |
| Marex | because the CFLAGS , which contain -O2 and -g do go also into QE_QMAKE_CFLAGS , which in turn get included no matter what in the build flags of this Qt project | 01:28 |
| khem | it could but image will not | 01:29 |
| Marex | I am talking about using the SDK, outside of the yocto | 01:29 |
| khem | unless you include debug packages | 01:29 |
| Marex | khem: I do ". /opt/poky.../environment-setup...." , then qmake CONFIG+=release , then "make" | 01:30 |
| khem | generally SDKs are used for development and then you include your app in OE/yocto proper | 01:30 |
| Marex | khem: is that the reason why the behavior changed between 7.0 and 8.0 then ? | 01:30 |
| khem | are you planning to ship your app built outside yocto too ? | 01:31 |
| Marex | khem: no, I'd like to understand why the behavior changed | 01:31 |
| Marex | khem: I'd actually like to test both debug and release builds with the toolchain though | 01:31 |
| khem | I dont think thats the reason it might be a indesired chnage | 01:31 |
| Marex | khem: I think that's pretty much it, a sideeffect of some plumbing in bitbake.conf | 01:32 |
| Marex | khem: but you do agree that I should be able to do debug and release build of a Qt application, outside of yocto with just the SDK and avoid having debugging symbols in the "release" build, right ? | 01:33 |
| Marex | (that's the old behavior from 7.0) | 01:33 |
| khem | its nice to have but I dont think its a must | 01:33 |
| Marex | khem: my understanding is that this is exactly how it's supposed to work -- have debug symbols in the debug build only | 01:34 |
| Marex | khem: esp. since the qmake adds those -g flags on it's own accord from those g++-unix.conf files | 01:34 |
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| khem | I would think for a QT developer's POV its fine to have I guess | 01:36 |
| Marex | khem: I think I found the culprit for this | 01:38 |
| Marex | khem: if you compare denzil-7.0:meta/classes/toolchain-scripts.bbclass and danny-8.0:meta/classes/toolchain-scripts.bbclass , you will see the assignment of CFLAGS changed | 01:39 |
| Marex | khem: so even the toolchains' CFLAGS were different in 7.0 and 8.0 ... | 01:40 |
| khem | sure it does change | 01:40 |
| khem | but I would suggest you to see if daisy or master has same issue too | 01:41 |
| Marex | khem: I see it in 1.6 still | 01:41 |
| khem | ok | 01:41 |
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| khem | file a bug that way it doesnt get lost | 01:42 |
| Marex | khem: I will experiment a little more so I understand what's wrong, then I will file a bug | 01:42 |
| Marex | khem: I also have a patch for the Qt here so that the CFLAGS do not contain uselessly duplicated flags | 01:43 |
| Marex | (that was a simple removal of assignments from the g++-unix.conf shipped with yocto, there were remaining flags which in the meantime moved elsewhere so a duplication happened) | 01:43 |
| Marex | khem: is there anyone digging in the QtE I can poke here maybe ? | 01:44 |
| khem | lot of folks do with QT5 | 01:44 |
| khem | QT4 not so many | 01:44 |
| Marex | I can imagine | 01:45 |
| Marex | khem: thanks, I will file those two this week | 01:47 |
| khem | np | 01:47 |
| nerdboy | http://cacm.acm.org/ <= "killer" quake app | 01:58 |
| Marex | khem: oh wait, but do I actually want the toolchain I generated to contain any predefined optimization flags in CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/LDFLAGS ? | 02:02 |
| Marex | khem: or do I want to control those myself ? | 02:02 |
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| khem | Marex: usually its best to use whatever yocto selects as defaults | 02:11 |
| khem | for SDK | 02:11 |
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| Marex | khem: uh, so I should actually be OK with Yocto preconfiguring random optimization flags _for_ me ? | 02:19 |
| Marex | that's a little strange, isn't it ? | 02:19 |
| Marex | I'd expect for the projects I compile with the toolchain to configure their CFLAGS themselves instead | 02:20 |
| Marex | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2013-January/011588.html ... and the best defaults Yocto actually selects for me do break build of various things | 02:22 |
| Marex | (like U-Boot , kernel ... and this in turn makes the toolchain unusable for some usecases) | 02:23 |
| Marex | the -Wl,-O1 in LDFLAGS will likely break anything which doesn't link using gcc , but with plain LD | 02:23 |
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| darknighte | khem: gotten farther. I needed to make sure that the qtbase-plugins package was installed to the rootfs. | 02:47 |
| darknighte | khem: now I'm working to get the app to connect correctly to the x11 server | 02:48 |
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| * nerdboy thinks darknighte left the door open | 03:36 | |
| Marex | ... and everyone was sucked into the vast darkness of space ? | 03:41 |
| Marex | khem: it's 5ed19a40f407efa1e6a2043bd8e36d729968c446 in yocto which introduced the different behavior | 03:50 |
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| akS_ | morning all | 06:54 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:38 |
| bluelightning | morning all | 07:45 |
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| kbouhara | Hi all, Im getting stuck with the issue "opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package mypackage-dev" , how can I resolve this ? | 07:55 |
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| JaMa | darknighte: I do, but I have never tried cinematic experience | 08:25 |
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| TuTizz | morning all, what should I do to compress my kernel in lzo? | 09:05 |
| danielki | otavio: hi; what's the state of sdk support in meta-qt5? is it supposed to work now or still in progress? | 09:12 |
| mckoan | danielki: with daisy it works | 09:40 |
| mckoan | danielki: which problems have you? | 09:40 |
| danielki | mckoan: bitbake -c populate_sdk <image-name> completes, but the resulting tarball doesn't contain any qt libs (even though the corresponding image does) | 09:41 |
| danielki | is there some extra config needed to get packages into the sdk? | 09:42 |
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| danielki | mckoan: ok, we tried this too, but apparently the included makespecs are not rewritten at install time. I'm trying to recreate this build right now to give you more details, but I'm having problems due to failing qtwayland build... can I exclude this from the sdk somehow? | 11:32 |
| TuTizz | If I want to compress my kernel with lzo, should I do it manualy or is there a way to do that with yocto? | 12:05 |
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| mckoan | danielki: DISTRO_FEATURES_remove = "x11 wayland" | 13:17 |
| danielki | mckoan: thanks -- weird though that the image build worked | 13:17 |
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| AlexVaduva | YPTM: Alexandru Vaduva, would today be the technical meeting? | 14:56 |
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| rburton | AlexVaduva: next week, iirc | 14:57 |
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| AlexVaduva | ok | 14:57 |
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| AlexVaduva | becaus a mail with the technical meeting was sent today | 14:58 |
| rburton | hang around for another five minutes just in case I'm wrong ;) | 14:58 |
| AlexVaduva | and it was kind of confussing | 14:58 |
| AlexVaduva | also | 14:58 |
| AlexVaduva | when will the change took place | 14:58 |
| mcweigel | I thought there would be a meeting today, and this would be the new schedule | 14:58 |
| AlexVaduva | because in the last meeting the schedule changed | 14:59 |
| AlexVaduva | :D | 14:59 |
| mcweigel | Stephen's emailed agenda also said July 15, which I'm pretty sure is today. | 14:59 |
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| sjolley | YPTM: Ready-Access Number: 8007302996/9139049836 Access Code: 2705751 | 14:59 |
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| AlexVaduva | It is today | 14:59 |
| armpit | YPTM: armin is on | 14:59 |
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| zeddii | YPTM: Bruce is on the call. | 15:00 |
| * Jefro is on YPTM | 15:00 | |
| * armpit is easily confused at my age so waits | 15:00 | |
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| sjolley | YPTM: Stephen Joined | 15:00 |
| rburton | hm ok. my calendar is lying. | 15:00 |
| AlexVaduva | YPTM: Alexandru Vaduva is on | 15:00 |
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| Jefro | diggin the hold music | 15:00 |
| mcweigel | YPTM: Matthew is on the call | 15:00 |
| halstead | YPTM: Michael on. | 15:00 |
| tomz | YPTM: Tom Z on the call | 15:00 |
| denix | YPTM: Denys is here | 15:00 |
| zhenhua | Zhenhua is on the call | 15:00 |
| mcweigel | rburton: yes I did get calendar removal emails, so it isn't on my calendar any more | 15:01 |
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| belen | YPTM: Belen is on the call | 15:01 |
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| RP | YPTM: Richard is present | 15:01 |
| sgw_ | YPTM: Saul is on | 15:01 |
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| michael_e_brown_ | YPTM: hi all | 15:02 |
| rburton | YPTM: ross on | 15:02 |
| RP | sjolley: meta-cgl | 15:03 |
| Jefro | meta-cgl is carrier grade linux | 15:03 |
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| ddalex_ | alex d here | 15:03 |
| mcweigel | sjolley: new invites for the meeting? | 15:04 |
| * nitink is on the YPTM call | 15:04 | |
| mcweigel | YPTM: yes please | 15:08 |
| mcweigel | I got the meeting update, followed by a cancellation. | 15:08 |
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| otavio | danielki: I use it with some customers | 15:14 |
| halstead | https://www.yoctoproject.org/downloads | 15:15 |
| RP | halstead: The work you and Melissa have done on that is much appreciated, a vast improvement | 15:15 |
| AlexVaduva | halstead: thanks | 15:16 |
| halstead | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/charts/perf_milestone/performance_test.html | 15:16 |
| halstead | Thank you for your help RP. | 15:16 |
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| AlexVaduva | halstead: the performance tests are aplicable only from inside toaster or it can be done for other things to | 15:18 |
| sjolley | YPTM is done! | 15:19 |
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| danielki | otavio: hm ok. is it correct that populate_sdk is not expected to work? | 15:32 |
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| sgw_ | armpit: Hi There | 15:39 |
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| alimon | sgw_: hi | 15:49 |
| armpit | sgw_: hello | 15:51 |
| sgw_ | armpit: sorry for the churn on your patches! I will try to get an answer on the nettle issue, I might need to consult a higher power | 15:52 |
| sgw_ | alimon: Hi there | 15:53 |
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| armpit | sgw_: no worries. I want to make sure its done correctly | 15:54 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #163 of nightly-qa-logrotate is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-qa-logrotate/builds/163 | 18:11 | |
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| seebs | Okay, this may be a silly question, but... | 18:20 |
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| seebs | In casual testing, it appears that if I have both overrides and appends for a variable, the override applies first, and the append applies second. | 18:20 |
| seebs | Is that actually specified and/or reliable? | 18:20 |
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| seebs | ... So it turns out that OVERRIDES_append does not do what you might hope it does, because overrides are processed before appends. | 18:44 |
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| khem | seebs you want something like VAR_append_<override> | 21:34 |
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| seebs | Well, VAR_append_<override> does indeed appear to work, I just wasn't sure whether the order was fully specified. | 23:19 |
| seebs | What I did discover is that I can't make OVERRIDE_append = ":foo" work. And I'm pretty sure it just can't in the current setup. | 23:19 |
| seebs | Er, OVERRIDES_append. | 23:20 |
| kergoth | yeah, not too surprising. to support it, we'd have to like recursively process overrides/appends until there aren't any changes occurring anymore, or something :) | 23:24 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 23:24 | |
| ant_home | well, I better go to sleep.. | 23:32 |
| ant_home | sigh.. I fill /dev/null ... | 23:32 |
| ant_home | wtf? | 23:32 |
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| ant_home | root@c7x0:/mnt/.psplash# time cp rootfs.squashfs /dev/null | 23:33 |
| ant_home | cp: write error: No space left on device | 23:33 |
| ant_home | root@c7x0:/mnt/.psplash# ls -al /dev/null | 23:33 |
| ant_home | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 15 23:14 /dev/null | 23:33 |
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| ant_home | even recreating it won't help | 23:33 |
| ant_home | becomes a normal file... | 23:34 |
| ant_home | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29507584 Jul 15 22:58 /dev/zero | 23:35 |
| ant_home | same... | 23:35 |
| ant_home | busybox? | 23:35 |
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