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| pev | Hm, is there an easy way to make the preferred version of one recipe be governed by another? i.e. in my case I have two kernel versions I'm supporting concurrently and two standalone module builds for it...? | 00:32 |
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| LetoThe2nd | after doing some toaster poking, i'm always unable to get it working, only thing i see in the browser is a 501 error. any pointers? | 07:23 |
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| TuTizz | morning all, did someone got a yocto recipe for sdl_mixer v2? | 07:58 |
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| auke- | Hi! I'm trying to build QT5 (5.3.2) from meta-qt5 without X11 or Wayland and it fails due to the following error: eglvivante.h:222:22: fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory | 09:05 |
| auke- | I think this error occurs because EGL_API_FB isn't defined, but i have no idea what should define this. | 09:07 |
| bluelightning | morning all | 09:08 |
| auke- | good morning! | 09:09 |
| bluelightning | hi auke- | 09:09 |
| volker_123456 | Has someone experience with the meta-intel layer? I'm very confused about the state of support regarding GPU/QuickSync etc. with ATOM E3845 Baytrail CPUs. One the one there seems to be an EMGD driver on the other there is a valleyisland layer mentioned, but that does not seem to be part of the meta-intel daisy branch. In the meta-intel layer README they say for Baytrail SOCs one should use the intel-corei7-64 config, but | 09:10 |
| volker_123456 | this config does not use the EMGD driver. | 09:10 |
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| bluelightning | volker_123456: I'm pretty sure we don't use EMGD on baytrail-based systems | 09:12 |
| bluelightning | it's not my area of expertise though; if you don't get an answer here I would strongly recommend emailing the meta-intel list | 09:13 |
| volker_123456 | bluelightning: thx: ok, I'm just wondering what that means for hardware acceleration support. Intel itself seems to mention EMGD for the E3800 family: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/embedded/software/emgd/atom-e3800-and-celeron-n2807-n2930-j1900.html | 09:14 |
| volker_123456 | but I also saw that there was some comment on the meta-intel mailing list, that EMGD is retired (whatever that means and what's the reason for that) | 09:15 |
| bluelightning | I think the answer there is that EMGD is binary-only and is tied to the particular kernel version it was built against | 09:17 |
| bluelightning | within meta-intel at least we prefer to use the open source drivers which do not have that limitation | 09:17 |
| bluelightning | but the best way to get a definitive answer on any of these kinds of questions is to email the meta-intel list | 09:19 |
| pev | Hm. So I have a build that has three layers meta-myhardware, meta-mymiddleware and meta-myapplication. Now, it so happens that I pull the conf from the "myapplication" layer via TEMPLATECONF with oe-init-build-env. However, I'd really like to have a bit of local.conf that sets up certain vars for the mymiddleware as well. Is there a way you can build / inherit things or do I just have to bodge it into the other layers local.conf.sample instead? | 09:24 |
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| condo43 | Hello all; I need help, I need to write some recipe which need to build an image (like initram) to include it in a binary, and, to make a final package. | 09:32 |
| condo43 | at this moment, I have a "bad" solution, witch consiste to have a package witch depend to an image, and make all thing, but, i think it's not the best way to do... | 09:33 |
| condo43 | the question is, how to generate in a do_compile for exemple, a rootfs or an image ? | 09:34 |
| bluelightning | pev: you really should have a distro layer to contain such policy configuration | 09:39 |
| bluelightning | condo43: any recipe that produces an image should simply "inherit image" which will allow it to produce an image during do_rootfs | 09:40 |
| bluelightning | (or core-image) | 09:40 |
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| pev | bluelightning: OK, I'd looked at this before but the documentation is a bit thin - can you reccommend any documentation / good examples? | 09:47 |
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| bluelightning | pev: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#creating-your-own-distribution | 09:48 |
| condo43 | bluelightning: Yes, I success to build an image, my problem is to include this image in a package | 09:48 |
| bluelightning | (I'm happy to help if that doesn't cover things adequately) | 09:48 |
| bluelightning | condo43: I don't follow - why would you include the image in a package? the image is composed of packages itself... | 09:48 |
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| LetoThe2nd | toaster people, heads up? i'm trying to follow on the quick start instructions, but my interface only gives me a 501 page | 10:07 |
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| condo43 | bluelightning: In fact, we build an uboot with an embedded minimal kernel+initrd for rescue | 10:19 |
| condo43 | the process is to build a busybox minimal, a kernel, different filesystem part... generate u-boot elf, and make a file with uboot elf, and the kernel + initrd, and store it into RPM u-boot installed on the system | 10:20 |
| bluelightning | condo43: ok, well, if the recipe producing that binary (u-boot itself?) has a task dependency on do_rootfs for the initramfs image, that would be the way to implement that | 10:21 |
| condo43 | ok, i will try this solution... I'll back later if I fail... | 10:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | hm. is there current breakage on master? current checkout breaks core-image-minimal with: Nothing PROVIDES 'gzip-native' | 10:28 |
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| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: I have to say I don't see that error... | 10:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: hmhmhm. | 10:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | let me retry, maybe i managed to whack my builddir | 10:30 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: it would be metadata or configuration triggering that though | 10:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: metadata is totally unchanged poky | 10:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | no additional layers, just tring to cook up a super minimal functional toaster testing case | 10:33 |
| bluelightning | right... I guess what I was hinting at was if you were thinking of trying to delete tmpdir or something like that in order to fix it, it's unlikely to have an effect | 10:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | e.g. checkout, source env, set downloads and sstate, source toaster start, kick build | 10:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | i interrupted it on my first try though, so recreadting builddir seems to have fixed it | 10:37 |
| bluelightning | that is worrying... | 10:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | yeah. | 10:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | i actually just did ctrl-c during a running bake | 10:38 |
| bluelightning | during the parsing I guess? | 10:38 |
| bluelightning | or later? | 10:39 |
| LetoThe2nd | don't know actually. think it was later, though | 10:42 |
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| ddalex | LetoThe2nd: hi - heard you encoutered Toaster issues | 10:56 |
| ddalex | LetoThe2nd: anything I can help with ? | 10:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | ddalex: maybe! thanks for stepping up.. basically see for yourself at http://54.77.181.136:8200/ | 10:58 |
| ddalex | LetoThe2nd: are you running the out-of-box configuration ? if so, please open up the browser to port 8000, not 8200 | 10:59 |
| ddalex | the startup message is quite confusing | 10:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | ddalex: totally out of the box :) | 10:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok, let me check | 10:59 |
| ddalex | LetoThe2nd: the web server runs on port 8000, the bitbake server is on port 8200 | 11:00 |
| ddalex | LetoThe2nd: bitbake protocol is HTTP-based, so a browser will connect to it, but can't do anything useful | 11:00 |
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| LetoThe2nd | GAAAH gotcha | 11:02 |
| LetoThe2nd | i'd really, REALLY encourage anybody to change that startup message! | 11:02 |
| ddalex | ddalex: on my todo list, thanks | 11:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | ddalex: i've poking this now for about 6hrs, feel free to drop dead laughing :-( | 11:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | *been | 11:04 |
| ddalex | LetoThe2nd: sorry about the mess | 11:10 |
| ddalex | LetoThe2nd: we debated about automatically starting a browser, it might have been helpful | 11:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | ddalex: i just re-read the startup message, which really is like "starting webserver - interface 0.0.0.0 - successful start" | 11:12 |
| volker_123456 | bluelightning: I tried cherry picking the mesa-demos 8.2.0 from master (to daisy) to get them compiled without glew/x11. But it still requires libglu and this seem to depend on libGL and that seems to be not compiled by the mesa package if you don't specify X11. At least libglu fails during linking with "cannot find -lGL" | 11:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | the automagic browser wouldn't have helped, it's a non-X ec2 instance | 11:12 |
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| ddalex | LetoThe2nd: ok, then changing the startup messsages will be done on the next merge request | 11:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | ddalex: if possible, i personally would just add a final line saying something like "find your webinterface on 127.0.0.1:8000" or something similar | 11:14 |
| LetoThe2nd | ddalex: </$.02> | 11:14 |
| LetoThe2nd | ddalex: thanks! | 11:14 |
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| bluelightning | volker_123456: I just passed that on, I don't have the details; but libglu shouldn't be being built since AIUI libGL cannot work without X11, so the dependency on libglu is where the problem lies | 11:16 |
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| ddalex | LetoThe2nd: sure; feel free to ping me again for any issues | 11:17 |
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| volker_123456 | thanks, that hint maybe gave me the solution: in the mesa-demos_8.2.0.bb file there is the following line: PACKAGECONFIG ?= "drm osmesa freetype2 gbm egl gles1 gles2 glu ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'x11', 'x11 glew', '', d)}" but I guess it has to be: PACKAGECONFIG ?= "drm osmesa freetype2 gbm egl gles1 gles2 \ | 11:20 |
| volker_123456 | ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'x11', 'x11 glew glu', '', d)}" at least it now compiles correctly..... I will check if it also results in a correct packaging on the final image | 11:20 |
| rburton | volker_123456: that sounds like a reasonable fix | 11:20 |
| bluelightning | I think it's fair to say we need more testing of x11 not in DISTRO_FEATURES | 11:21 |
| bluelightning | (on the autobuilder, I mean) | 11:21 |
| bluelightning | I might file a bug | 11:22 |
| rburton | bluelightning: yes, certainly | 11:24 |
| rburton | the weston-no-x11 image should be a good test, as it builds gtk and clutter too | 11:24 |
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| rburton | (more accurate, core-image-weston without the x11 distro feature set) | 11:25 |
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| Net147 | any tips on how to resolve "requires libGLESv2.so, but no providers in its RDEPENDS" QA issues? | 11:39 |
| Net147 | just add virtual/libgles2 to RDEPENDS? | 11:42 |
| LetoThe2nd | by the way, whats the overall state concerning the eclipse plugin? $COWORKER just told me the last commit has been like 14 months ago.. | 12:03 |
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| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: strange, now bitbake doesn't seem to realize there have been changes to local.conf | 12:10 |
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| LetoThe2nd | could that be a sideeffect of the toaster instance running? | 12:12 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: yes it does stay memory resident | 12:13 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: unfortunately there are a few things like that with the memory resident functionality that don't work as well as they should | 12:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: hm is that a local-sqlite-toaster effect only? or is it always like, stop toaster-change-start toaster again? | 12:14 |
| bluelightning | Net147: that should do it... | 12:14 |
| bluelightning | Net147: FYI: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.7/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#qa-issue-file-rdeps | 12:14 |
| bluelightning | (just added yesterday) | 12:14 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: it's unfortunately a known issue with the bitbake memory resident functionality which toaster requires | 12:16 |
| bluelightning | something we will hopefully address in the upcoming dev cycle | 12:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok, i see | 12:16 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: re the eclipse plugin, we're still looking for help with that basically | 12:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: has j.zh. been reassigned, or something like that? | 12:17 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: she's the manager of our team now | 12:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: uh-huh | 12:18 |
| bluelightning | it looks like we still have a job opening for that so if you know anyone who would like to work on Eclipse, let us know | 12:21 |
| bluelightning | (we being Intel in this instance, just in case that's not clear) | 12:22 |
| Net147 | bluelightning: I noticed a few weeks ago in poky master that if I have file://somedir specified in a recipe, it didn't rebuild if a file inside somedir changed. is that normal? | 12:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: duly noted ;) | 12:22 |
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| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: actually my eclipsing coworker is just sitting on the other side of the table and trying to dig into the plugin ;) | 12:23 |
| bluelightning | Net147: I don't think that is expected no | 12:23 |
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| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: ok, cool... FWIW I think we'd also be keen to have (tested) patches as well ;) | 12:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: i can understand that desire.. if he comes up with something i shall have it forwarded, but given our r&d team size and workload, don't expect much | 12:25 |
| bluelightning | LetoThe2nd: no worries, just putting it out there :) | 12:25 |
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| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: :) | 12:26 |
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| LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: i just fear your offer tempted him too much.. seeing him leave would be a huge blow | 12:33 |
| * LetoThe2nd continues pointless mumblings | 12:34 | |
| bluelightning | I would certainly hope not to have anyone join us at the expense of leaving a big gap somewhere else; but then, that's always hard | 12:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | yeah don't take my mumblings too seriously, i'm just trying to do some yoctos tinkering during the train ride home from elce | 12:38 |
| LetoThe2nd | net result: some more understanding of toasters pitfalls | 12:39 |
| Kirill | Hi everybody, can someone suggest where I can find examples of using python code in recipes? I have read documentation, but not sure if I understand everything | 12:43 |
| rburton | speaking of ELCE did they announce where it is next year yet? | 12:57 |
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| ndec | rburton: not that i know | 12:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: same here | 12:59 |
| rburton | how am i meant to plan next years holiday without knowing where elce is! | 12:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: seems like we successfully managed to run away from each other all week | 12:59 |
| ndec | LetoThe2nd: yeah. i tried hard, and it seemed to work ;_) | 13:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: hooray | 13:00 |
| ndec | well, i am still here, you too? | 13:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | ndec: nah i'm riding the mystery train | 13:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | little sandworm is waiting for me | 13:01 |
| ndec | ;-) | 13:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | i also missed woglinde.. so maybe next time | 13:02 |
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| pev | bluelightning: Thanks - I've had a read through that and giving it a shot. Is there any convention for how / where you keep multiple configurations? I'm assuming you probably would want to keep in your distro layer somewhere and then point at with TEMPLATECONF when you set up the build environment? | 14:24 |
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| bluelightning | pev: well TEMPLATECONF could point to a dir containing template config files which added the distro layer and set DISTRO to point to the distro config within that layer, yes | 14:40 |
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| pev | bluelightning: Grand, thanks. Just trying to figure out what the way thats "normal" is - I'm sure I can't be the only person with five or six standard configurations to support in that kind of way?! | 14:43 |
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| bluelightning | pev: I would expect not, but it ought to be as simple as separate distro files for each configuration | 14:46 |
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| bluelightning | they can be as close as right next to eachother, even sharing common parts through inc files; or they could be in completely separate layers | 14:46 |
| bluelightning | all depends on what you're trying to do | 14:46 |
| pev | bluelightning: Well, I've created layer splits so individual layers for each custom board (where warranted) and then project specific software layers. Then theres also a general distro layer for all the common stuff and another layer for a particular bit of middleware thats always shared. | 14:50 |
| pev | so something like meta-pev (distro layer) // meta-pev-hw-boardN // meta-pev-sw-projectN // meta-pev-sw-middleware | 14:52 |
| bluelightning | so there are lots of different ways you could handle it; but at face value it's possible that you would need a distro config for each project so it might go into the project-specific software layer | 14:53 |
| pev | I was going to create dirs something like meta-pev/oeconf/proj-configN and put the local.conf.sample and bblayer.conf.sample under each | 14:53 |
| bluelightning | depends how different the projects are | 14:53 |
| bluelightning | well, one of the things the distro config is supposed to help with is avoiding putting too much into local.conf | 14:53 |
| pev | Ah, OK, I was thinking "distro" was something more broad, hadnt thought that it was so flexible. I guess I should read up a bit more about that... | 14:54 |
| bluelightning | local.conf is really supposed to be just selecting distro, machine, and specifying local paths | 14:54 |
| pev | Ah.... | 14:54 |
| pev | So effectively then the per-project element is the distro config then, gotcha | 14:54 |
| bluelightning | yep | 14:54 |
| pev | Right, I'll stick my nose back into the ref manual again then and experiment some more :-) | 14:55 |
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| pev | bluelightning: Am I better off duplicating poky.conf then modifying and trimming? Looks like I change / lose a lot just doing whats in the ref manual and starting with a bare conf | 15:46 |
| bluelightning | pev: you can certainly do that | 15:47 |
| kergoth | you can also just include/require poky.conf if you dont' mind a layer dependency on meta-yocto | 15:47 |
| * kergoth yawns | 15:47 | |
| bluelightning | and you don't care about your distro config changing to match anything new that gets added to poky.conf | 15:48 |
| bluelightning | (not that that happens often) | 15:48 |
| kergoth | indeed, good point | 15:48 |
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| pev | kergoth: Ah yes! I see that's what poky-tiny does... That's a good plan as it does a lot of handy stuff already | 15:51 |
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| pev | OK. Here's an unrelated question... In my world I have a few different kernel versions that get built, e.g. linux-imx-3.0.35 and linux-imx-3.10.17. These get built by different recipes selected by PREFERRED_VERSION in the distro files now. | 15:57 |
| pev | Now, take for example something like v4l-utils. In it's package it contains its own copy of various kernel headers such as videodev2.h. So when building different distros with different kernel versions the included videodev2.h will probably be wrong. | 15:57 |
| pev | the high-maintenance approach would be to create different v4l-util recipes to match the kernels | 15:58 |
| pev | but could you for example just have the one v4l-utils recipe that matches the version of yocto we're using and then add a bbappend to patch? | 15:58 |
| pev | (which is what I do at the mo) | 15:58 |
| pev | but how would you then with the two kernels via preferred_version select the different patch in the v4l-utils recipe? | 15:59 |
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| pev | or is there a simple and obvious solution I'm missing? :-D | 15:59 |
| pev | also, creating the new distro (just requiring poky.conf and setting DISTRO=) seems to now build a new gcc-cross and I guess much more rather than pulling from sstate-cache - is that expected? | 16:02 |
| kergoth | a distro change is pretty invasive | 16:03 |
| kergoth | even if none of the vars it sets change | 16:03 |
| pev | Ah, OK, I'll just have to suck it up then.... | 16:05 |
| pev | Maybe I'm better off supporting my multiple configurations just by using various local.conf.sample versions and TEMPLATECONF then. This could get pretty tedious if I have to build different full toolchains for each board type I'm using... ?! | 16:08 |
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| kergoth | i wouldn't recommend that. maintanance over the long term you're best off using a distro. local.conf is best for temporary or user changes | 16:14 |
| pev | Hm... | 16:17 |
| kergoth | but it does depend on the situation, of course. everyone has slightly different workflow :) | 16:18 |
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| pev | Hm, anyone seen : "ERROR: QA Issue: eglibc-locale: Files/directories were installed but not shipped" ? | 17:30 |
| pev | Changed to new distro conf which is basically a dupe of poky-tiny with a name change and I get that | 17:31 |
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| fishey2 | I'm writing a bitbake file for a package that needs build_dir = src_dir, is there an accepted way to do that? | 19:02 |
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| kergoth | B = "${S}" if not autotools, or change inherit autotools to inherit autotools-brokensep if autotools | 19:03 |
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| fishey2 | kergoth: thanks. | 19:09 |
| kergoth | np | 19:09 |
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