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| otavio | rburton: starting the tests of u-boot class change | 12:03 |
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| texel | So, attempting to build Yocto for the Intel Edison board, and I seem to be stuck on a weird issue popping up from quilt. | 17:51 |
| texel | When I issue 'bitbake core-image-minimal', quilt's configure script bails out claiming that 'cp -l' doesn't support hardlinks. | 17:52 |
| texel | Where the heck can I look to see what the heck it actually tried to run? | 17:52 |
| * texel sighs | 17:53 | |
| texel | Just found the exact command in the configure script. | 17:53 |
| texel | Still doesn't really help -- no idea which cp it's attempting to use. | 17:53 |
| texel | Ah, sorry, this is in quilt-native_0.48.bb | 17:54 |
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| texel | Aha. Apparently it needs to build "pseudo" first. | 18:00 |
| texel | Thing is, I've already built this and it's on /usr/local in my host system. How can I tell poky about it? | 18:00 |
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| kergoth | its unlikely you have the exact version poky needs (read: the absolute latest) | 18:10 |
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| texel | Aha. I see what happened now. | 18:12 |
| texel | It's due to weird filesystem semantics on my end. | 18:12 |
| texel | Ugh. | 18:12 |
| texel | The extra bit of info here is that I'm running this on Ubuntu somethsomething inside of Parallels Desktop on a MacBook Pro. =op | 18:12 |
| texel | The source tree is in my "shared folders" mount, which apparently can't create hardlinks. | 18:13 |
| * texel sighs | 18:13 | |
| * texel really doesn't understand why people make filesystems and then don't support basic semantics like this... | 18:13 | |
| texel | My only other question is, what does quilt do that actually needs hardlinks? =op | 18:20 |
| bluelightning | the build system makes quite a lot of use of hardlinks in order to save space | 18:21 |
| texel | Ah. That's good to know. | 18:22 |
| texel | Also, that's awesome -- wish more build systems did that. =o) | 18:22 |
| texel | *cough*android*cough* | 18:22 |
| texel | Yeah, moving the build off the weird Parallels fs fixed the issue. | 18:23 |
| texel | Woot! Now I get build errors relating to tar. ;_; | 18:24 |
| texel | "tar: --same-order option cannot be used with -c" | 18:25 |
| bluelightning | there is a fix for that, one moment | 18:29 |
| bluelightning | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/patch/?id=bf19a8617d05f17506dcb7154e19e2aa2b61838b | 18:30 |
| bluelightning | and | 18:30 |
| bluelightning | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/patch/?id=d3846f06d1e3faedcbc3c28e22c427bb0088683d | 18:30 |
| texel | Ah. These are on mainline, I take it? | 18:30 |
| texel | Or rather, in the master branch? | 18:30 |
| texel | Also, thanks for digging those up. =o) | 18:31 |
| bluelightning | well, a newer stable branch | 18:32 |
| texel | Aha. That explains why it wasn't in edison. | 18:34 |
| texel | Whoa. The year on that is 2013. | 18:39 |
| texel | Wow. Okay, so what build of Ubuntu is used generally to develop on Poky? | 18:42 |
| texel | I just got an error for gets from the host glibc install. | 18:42 |
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| bluelightning | texel: what is the error? | 18:52 |
| otavio | texel: the reference manual has the list of the supported versions | 18:52 |
| otavio | texel: mainly LTS supported ones work | 18:52 |
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| texel | bluelightning: "#error gets is a security risk" or something similar. | 18:58 |
| texel | It's from that recent change that went into glibc that broke the world. =o/ | 18:58 |
| texel | I've given up trying to build yocto directly and instead am using the BSP from Intel directly. Hopefully that will have better results. | 18:59 |
| texel | otavio: I'm on Ubuntu 14 LTS | 18:59 |
| texel | 14.04.1 LTS, to be precise. | 18:59 |
| bluelightning | texel: I'm confused now - I thought you were building the BSP as supplied before... | 19:00 |
| texel | I'm not sure what "as supplied" really is when it comes to the Edison. The docs are all over the place. =op | 19:00 |
| texel | So first I tried building the BSP from source by cloning the yocto core git repo and then pulling down meta-intel on top of that. | 19:01 |
| texel | Had to setup my bblayers.conf and local.conf to reference the right machine and all that. | 19:01 |
| texel | Now I've downloaded a "source tarball" directly from Intel which seems to include a source tree for Yocto that seems to build (so far) | 19:01 |
| bluelightning | just checking - you didn't at any point check out the "edison" branch... right? | 19:02 |
| texel | Yes, I did. | 19:02 |
| texel | In both repos. | 19:02 |
| bluelightning | ok, so our "edison" branch bears no relation to the Intel Edison... one of our previous releases was coincidentally named edison | 19:02 |
| texel | Oh, geeze. | 19:02 |
| bluelightning | hence the already solved build failures you had to work around... | 19:03 |
| texel | Okay, that makes much more sense now. | 19:03 |
| texel | Yeah. | 19:03 |
| texel | So then if I wanted to build an image for the Edison, I'd stay on the master branch and just use the appropriate machine targets, then? | 19:03 |
| bluelightning | for the moment, I'd recommend sticking with the Edison BSP build instructions | 19:04 |
| texel | Right. | 19:04 |
| bluelightning | hopefully there will be a better answer than that soon | 19:04 |
| texel | I hope so -- the instructions available are a bit crazy. | 19:05 |
| texel | Not that I think the yocto project should be responsible for Intels docs, mind you. =op | 19:05 |
| bluelightning | (FWIW, I work for Intel, but in a different part than the group that produces the Edison) | 19:06 |
| texel | Oh, cool. | 19:07 |
| texel | Glad to see Intel folks out in the OSS world. =o) | 19:08 |
| texel | Ultimately my goal for this little mote is to run a copy of SBCL and build a wearable system out of it. | 19:11 |
| texel | I'd like to do that with as little extra junk as possible (ie: get rid of Node.js, etc.) -- hence the point of building a whole new image. | 19:12 |
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| texel | Ugh. Doesn't look like this is going to work, either. Now I'm getting errors in the gcc toolchain build relating to -Wformat-security "format not a string literal and no format arguments" | 19:22 |
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| texel | Hm. Nevermind. VM config error. | 19:40 |
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| r23s | Hi all, I have a question about DISTRO_FEATURES and VIRTUAL-RUNTIME. Is it possible to set these in an image recipe? I want to configure them in a more permanent/cohesive location than conf/local.conf | 21:09 |
| r23s | I tried putting them there of course, but the options didn't stick. | 21:10 |
| paulg | $ git grep -l DISTRO_FEATURES|grep image | 21:12 |
| paulg | meta/classes/image.bbclass | 21:12 |
| paulg | meta/classes/testimage.bbclass | 21:12 |
| paulg | meta/recipes-extended/images/core-image-lsb.bb | 21:12 |
| paulg | meta/recipes-graphics/images/core-image-directfb.bb | 21:12 |
| paulg | meta/recipes-graphics/images/core-image-weston.bb | 21:12 |
| paulg | meta/recipes-graphics/images/core-image-x11.bb | 21:12 |
| paulg | ...so, it looks like it. | 21:12 |
| kergoth | setting DISTRO_FEATURES in a recipe would have no meaning, the whole point of it is to affect how things build | 21:13 |
| kergoth | one recipe can't affect others | 21:13 |
| kergoth | virtual-runtime, yes, it's used in the image | 21:13 |
| r23s | Is inheriting distro_features_check in the recipe required as well? As paulg indicates, they are set in some of the default image recipes. My image inherits core-image, but not distro_features_check yet. | 21:17 |
| kergoth | distro_features_check is used to make the recipe not buildable when its required distro features are not set, that's all | 21:18 |
| kergoth | you'd only inherit if it that's what you need | 21:18 |
| r23s | ok, interesting | 21:20 |
| r23s | Where would you recommend I set DISTRO_FEATURES then? Is conf/local.conf the most appropriate place? | 21:22 |
| kergoth | distro features are generally set by the distro | 21:23 |
| kergoth | if you need to build on that, then yes, local.conf | 21:23 |
| r23s | Hmm. I forked poky and am using that as the basis for a largely custom distro. If I wanted to make a systemic change my distro settings where would I do it? | 21:25 |
| kergoth | in your distro .conf, as i just said | 21:26 |
| r23s | I'm looking to replace sysvinit with systemd, by the way. I just want it to be tied in with the rest of the feature set, not local settings. | 21:26 |
| kergoth | yes, again, put it in your distro | 21:28 |
| r23s | OK, where is that set? o set | 21:29 |
| r23s | whoops | 21:29 |
| r23s | Is there a file for distro configuration? Maybe I'm having trouble with terminology. Is that distinct from image .bb recipes and .conf files? | 21:30 |
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| r23s | I appreciate your patience with my scattered questions | 21:33 |
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| kergoth | first of all, you really shouldnt' be forking poky, just create your own layer with your own distro and do what you like there | 21:35 |
| kergoth | you can have the new distro include poky.conf, to use poky as a starting point | 21:35 |
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| r23s | kergoth, I misspoke earlier. We cloned oe-core, not poky. Apparently oe-core is distroless, hence no [poky/distro].conf. | 21:56 |
| r23s | I need to read up on the differences. | 21:56 |
| kergoth | still a bad idea that isn't really in line with how things are done nowadays, but if there's no other option, okay | 21:59 |
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| kergoth | r23s: at any rate, your best bet would be to create a distro in a new layer. conf/distro/<your distro>.conf and adjust policy there. see poky.conf in meta-yocto as an example, or just include it in yours as a baseline | 22:14 |
| r23s | kergoth: I'm reading up on the differences now and think that's exactly what I need to do. Thanks for your patience and for helping me out! | 22:16 |
| kergoth | np | 22:17 |
| kergoth | there's a lot to get your head around | 22:17 |
| kergoth | high complexity, but also high flexibility | 22:17 |
| r23s | Indeed. I'm excited to get my head around all of these capabilities. It's already been immensely helpful, even with my primitive understanding of it. | 22:20 |
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| texel | Welp, everything built. I'mma happy camper now. | 23:33 |
| texel | Thanks bluelightning. =o) | 23:33 |
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