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| bluelightning | morning all | 08:01 |
| AlexVaduva | morning | 08:14 |
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| mckoan | good morning bluelightning, AlexVaduva, all | 08:27 |
| AlexVaduva | morning | 08:33 |
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| joshuagl | the best thing about Hob being put out to pasture is that I will no longer have to read people type it as HOB | 08:47 |
| bluelightning | joshuagl: word | 08:53 |
| AlexVaduva | :)) | 08:54 |
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| mckoan | joshuagl: I completely missed the Build Appliance news | 10:24 |
| mckoan | does exist any useful link showing how does it work without necessarily install it? | 10:24 |
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| joshuagl | mckoan: https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/projects/build-appliance ? | 10:28 |
| joshuagl | not sure how useful it is, but that's *a* link | 10:28 |
| joshuagl | there are docs and everything | 10:28 |
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| cart_man | Hey | 11:20 |
| cart_man | What should I do when I cant build an image cause of this error? | 11:21 |
| cart_man | ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'syslinux' | 11:21 |
| abdurr | can two recipes have the same name? I need to include two layers, both have a recipe with the same name, will this work? | 11:21 |
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| rburton | abdurr: yes | 11:35 |
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| cart_man | rburton: Do you know what I should do with my ERROR maybe? | 11:37 |
| rburton | cart_man: find out why it can't find the syslinux recipe i guess. what machine are you using? | 11:39 |
| cart_man | Im using Ubuntu x64 and im trying to compile for beaglebone | 11:43 |
| cart_man | Ubuntu 14 | 11:43 |
| cart_man | rburton: ^ | 11:43 |
| rburton | cart_man: the syslinux recipe will only build for x86… | 11:44 |
| rburton | so either stop trying to use syslinux if you're explicitly trying, or don't build an image that needs syslinux. are you trying to build a live image for beaglebone? | 11:45 |
| rburton | the images that need syslinux shouldn't be attempting to use it on non-x86 | 11:47 |
| cart_man | Well a live image would be nice and helpfull although I could not even get the Beaglebone to boot a normal SD card version. So no im not trying to build a live version | 11:47 |
| cart_man | I used HOB | 11:47 |
| cart_man | after using HOB it seems to have this problem\ | 11:47 |
| cart_man | Is there live bootable version of Yocto for beaglebone? | 11:48 |
| rburton | personally, i recommend not using hob - it does odd things. it probably enabled live images for you. | 11:48 |
| cart_man | rburton: Im starting to think the same thing...Problem though is I am not really familier with getting my custom package totally right. theres always something wrong and it crashes... No ive kind of given up on the idea. I first thought that adding packaages is as easy as adding them to the list on the local.conf file | 11:49 |
| rburton | well, an image with the "live" type won't work with non-x86 | 11:49 |
| cart_man | but it kept on crashing when I build it | 11:50 |
| rburton | it is that easy - CORE_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL_append = " my-recipe" | 11:50 |
| rburton | for the "quickly add a recipe" situation | 11:50 |
| cart_man | So one literrally just add your packages to that list? | 11:51 |
| cart_man | whow ok | 11:51 |
| rburton | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.8/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#usingpoky-extend-customimage | 11:52 |
| cart_man | rburton: and what about the " EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES " in the local.conf ? because the mostly the things I want on the Image | 11:54 |
| cart_man | Ohh nevermind I guess you just add them there | 11:54 |
| rburton | features != recipes | 11:54 |
| rburton | features map to package groups | 11:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | out of interest, is hob gaining additional traction (again)? i always thought it was going to be superseded by toaster. | 11:56 |
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| cart_man | LetoThe2nd: So should one rather use Toaster? | 12:06 |
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| LetoThe2nd | cart_man: at least at this very moment, one should probably not listen to me specifically in this respect - i'm all in for the cli anyways | 12:07 |
| joshuagl | I don't know which is the more usable option right now, but certainly Toaster is receiving the bulk of engineering effort | 12:11 |
| Crofton|work | I hear the LF training course is still teaching hob | 12:12 |
| Crofton|work | weird | 12:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | well, i personally am using some script magic to setup layers and config, and build on jenkins - so i'm probably not the blueprint | 12:13 |
| * Crofton|work uses a script to build images and run wic | 12:14 | |
| LetoThe2nd | for reference, this is what i'm using: https://github.com/LetoThe2nd/blubber | 12:18 |
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| cart_man | rburton: In which file do I switch off the "Live" function? | 12:39 |
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| rburton | cart_man: it would have been a modification to your local.conf | 12:59 |
| cart_man | rburton: Ok thanks allot | 13:00 |
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| ericbutters | hi.. i try to build qt5-base. i got wayland and opengles in my sysroot. but qtbase is configured for -opengl desktop | 13:05 |
| ericbutters | instead of -opengl es2 | 13:05 |
| ericbutters | if i modify to use es2 it works, but why it does not by itself? | 13:06 |
| ericbutters | i use meta-qt5 | 13:06 |
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| belen | Crofton|work: we should probably reach out to LF and ask them why … | 13:16 |
| Crofton|work | yeah | 13:17 |
| Crofton|work | I found out from a guy who had the class last week | 13:17 |
| Crofton|work | need to double check | 13:18 |
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| belen | Crofton|work: I've told jeffro about it. Let's see what he says | 13:20 |
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| pev | H, | 13:30 |
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| pev | Hm, I don't seem to be able to over-ride /etc/default/ssh via a bbappend as image.bbclass redirects into it in the read_only_rootfs_hook() .... :-/ I guess that means I have to modify image.bbclass ? | 13:32 |
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| bluelightning | pev: are you using read-only-rootfs in IMAGE_FEATURES? | 13:35 |
| pev | Yep | 13:36 |
| pev | bluelightning: It looks like it's half been thought about..! I need to move the key storage into the r/w mount which is easy to do via updating sshd_config / sshd_config_readonly but I can't also update the defaults to match... | 13:37 |
| pev | I suppose I could always mount-bind over the top instead but it's kludgey | 13:38 |
| pev | I would have thought generating the post-process hook in the openssh recipe would have been more appropriate? | 13:38 |
| bluelightning | pev: it is probably an oversight... you should probably email the list about it and CC the person who worked on that (Chen Qi <Qi.Chen@windriver.com>) | 13:39 |
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| pev | bluelightning: Yep, for sure - although I try to not get too involved in the list as I'm flat out and my builds are based on daisy which makes it trickier to submit changes... | 13:42 |
| pev | or can I submit against daisy and let them find their own way upstream? | 13:43 |
| pev | I've got a few things stacked up I should pass on I guess and quite a few read-only rootfs tweaks | 13:45 |
| bluelightning | pev: we do prefer things to be against master unfortunately | 13:46 |
| bluelightning | pev: the other alternative is you send them to the list clearly marked as being WIP and needing adaptation for master, and CC Qi asking him to take care of them | 13:47 |
| joshuagl | I was just about to suggest pushing a branch and asking whether anyone wants to own upstreaming them to master | 13:47 |
| bluelightning | at minimum it would be good to let Qi know of the issues | 13:47 |
| bluelightning | joshuagl: right, that would be an idea | 13:47 |
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| seezer | hi there. is there a way to populate headers from "non-standard" paths (/opt/foobar/include) into sysroot? | 14:17 |
| lpapp | isn't it up to the buildsystem of the software in question? | 14:18 |
| lpapp | or at worst, your own installation rules into the sysroot? | 14:19 |
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| lpapp | (i.e. do_install() { .. }) | 14:19 |
| seezer | lpapp: would you install into $some_sysroot_var there? | 14:20 |
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| lpapp | yes, there are special variables. | 14:20 |
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| seezer | i tried installing into ${D}${includedir}/... which works but that duplicates the files in my manually defined -dev package which then holds opt/ and usr/include with the same files | 14:21 |
| lpapp | ${sysconfdir}, ${bindir}, ${libdir}, etc. | 14:21 |
| lpapp | seezer: list the files in your package | 14:23 |
| lpapp | seezer: or use mv instead of copy :-) | 14:23 |
| lpapp | is it some proprietary software coming with preinstalled headers like that or why can you not specify it for the buildsystem, by the way? | 14:24 |
| seezer | actually i could. for the sake of "simplicity" for others depending on the framework, some argued putting all into /opt would be "easier". | 14:25 |
| lpapp | ok, that is not too linux-y, but it is possible. | 14:26 |
| seezer | yeah i know - it's currently mostly a POC, porting the framework to arm | 14:26 |
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| seezer | it's a cmake based receipt and therefore i use a CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX of /opt/foo | 14:26 |
| seezer | which fits for everything but the -dev package in sysroot. but i guess i'll just move it and be done with it. simple = sexy. | 14:27 |
| limotec-dev | hello, anyone has accomplished building gutenprint for yocto? | 14:27 |
| lpapp | seezer: sorry, I do not follow | 14:27 |
| limotec-dev | i'm trying to add ppd files to cups | 14:27 |
| lpapp | seezer: why cannot you use the right path to cmake if it already allows customisation? | 14:27 |
| lpapp | and your colleagues will use this /opt/foo for their own experiment. | 14:28 |
| lpapp | do you need to provide the headers at both places? If so, why not symlink? | 14:28 |
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| seezer | lpapp: yeah moving/linking are what i'm gonna do. i was just thinking i'm missing some knobs to "populate /opt". but that will work for me. thanks! | 14:29 |
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| fishey1 | When I enable -fsanitize=address for some programs in my yocto build I see this error https://gist.github.com/843a0e86725d6a6f53cc . The same program appears to work fine with libsanitizer when built for my local system | 14:41 |
| fishey1 | Anyone else run into that failure? Or have debugging suggestions? | 14:41 |
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| lpapp | limotec-dev: perhaps you can make your own .bbappend? | 14:44 |
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| limotec-dev | lpapp: i'm not that experienced in writing recipes my own | 14:45 |
| limotec-dev | lpapp: I found a recipe for gutenprint, but it's 5years old | 14:45 |
| lpapp | limotec-dev: hmm, that sounds like a good starting point then to customize, no? | 14:46 |
| limotec-dev | lpapp: yes, thats true | 14:47 |
| limotec-dev | lpapp: but I don't have any clue what cups needs | 14:48 |
| lpapp | where did you find the recipe? | 14:48 |
| limotec-dev | https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded/tree/master/recipes/gutenprint | 14:48 |
| lpapp | limotec-dev: so it no longer works? | 14:50 |
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| limotec-dev | lpapp: not for me, i'm getting quite a lot errors | 14:50 |
| limotec-dev | lpapp: like do_stage is deprecated | 14:51 |
| lpapp | it is possible that it could be migration to meta-openembedded with some fiddling. | 14:52 |
| lpapp | migrated* | 14:52 |
| bluelightning | limotec-dev: if you do want to migrate that, you may find this useful: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Migrating_metadata_to_OE-Core | 14:53 |
| limotec-dev | i'll look into that | 14:54 |
| limotec-dev | thanks bluelightning | 14:54 |
| bluelightning | np | 14:54 |
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| kergoth | morning | 15:06 |
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| ericbutters | kergoth: you once gave my some idea to find out which packages are missing from: "Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide" .. "This usually means one provides something the other doesn't and should" | 15:10 |
| ericbutters | what was that? | 15:10 |
| ericbutters | sry | 15:10 |
| kergoth | generally you should inspect both PACKAGES and PROVIDES for those cases, as it can be either a build time or runtime dependency pulling them in. bitbake -g may be of use here | 15:10 |
| ericbutters | ok | 15:11 |
| ericbutters | kergoth: PACKAGES what i am missed.. thanks! | 15:13 |
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| kergoth | np | 15:16 |
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| clopez | any idea of how can i define a PREFERRED_PROVIDER in the recipe of a package (.bb) (for any machine) ? | 15:43 |
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| bluelightning | clopez: you can't; PREFERRED_PROVIDER must be set at the configuration level | 15:44 |
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| clopez | :\ | 15:50 |
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| bluelightning | clopez: you can depend explicitly on the preferred provider that you would have selected, if that helps | 15:53 |
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| clopez | good idea, thanks :) | 15:58 |
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| ericbutters | kergoth: hmm.. that was not all.. how to remove mesa? all i need is provided by pre-built binaries that i copy. but i get the multiple provide errors. last time i managed to get all the packages that i should provide listed on the console.. but i can not remember.. | 16:10 |
| ericbutters | bluelightning: maybe you got some idea also? Pls see my recipe here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11208750/ | 16:14 |
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| DS__ | Hi, I'm having a problem trying to get initramfs/initrd to work. I'm never able to get yocto to generate an initramfs image (it always hangs on what appears to be an internal script), and if I try to load the rootfs separately through initrd, the kernel just hangs. It never boots. I have little idea of these things (I've been mostly following guides and what I can find in the Internet), so I can't even provide more information about this | 16:45 |
| DS__ | I'm trying to load everything through u-boot, if that helps. | 16:45 |
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| DS__ | This is the error that appears when trying to bundle everything for the initramfs: http://pastebin.com/J5fLms4x | 16:51 |
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| abc1234 | Hello Friends. I have a bitbake recipe with RDEPENDS+${PN} and name of few packages. When I install the ipk generated with this recipe, I get this error --> "satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for" | 18:39 |
| abc1234 | and list of packages listed in RDEPENDS_${PN} | 18:40 |
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| abc1234 | does this mean I have to install all the packages listed in RDEPENDS_${PN} | 18:40 |
| abc1234 | before installing this package: | 18:40 |
| abc1234 | ? | 18:40 |
| abc1234 | Is there a way to install all dependencies (dependent packages) as part of single installation? | 18:41 |
| kergoth | how exactly did you 'install the ipk generated with this recipe'? | 18:42 |
| kergoth | if you want to use opkg to install something and its dependencies, you need a package feed | 18:42 |
| kergoth | see the opkg documentation | 18:42 |
| abc1234 | opkg install package.ipk | 18:43 |
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| abc1234 | thanks for the direction | 18:48 |
| abc1234 | Is there a way to pack all these dependencies in one package? | 18:48 |
| abc1234 | so as part of one ipk, install the actual package + all its dependencies | 18:48 |
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| kergoth | noe | 18:50 |
| kergoth | nope | 18:50 |
| kergoth | either use a feed, or manually copy them and install them | 18:50 |
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| kergoth | hmm, devtool assumes SHELL is absolute when set, that's not guaranteed | 19:10 |
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| seebs | I would tend to consider a non-absolute $SHELL to be a Very Bad Idea. | 19:13 |
| seebs | I will take a stand against shellativism. | 19:14 |
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| kergoth | it seems some versions of zsh set SHELL=zsh | 19:15 |
| kergoth | fish doesn't set it at all | 19:15 |
| kergoth | hmm | 19:15 |
| seebs | Huh. That seems like a strange choice. I would not expect a shell to *set* $SHELL, which I always thought was supposed to be set to the shell field from passwd. | 19:16 |
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| kergoth | ah, no, it wasn't zsh setting it, was a lurking profile remnant. eep, that's no good | 19:17 |
| seebs | case $0 in | 19:18 |
| seebs | [...] | 19:18 |
| kergoth | interesting, "This variable shall represent a pathname of the user's preferred command language interpreter." .. doesn't indicate that it has to be absolute, however | 19:18 |
| seebs | *csh)SHELL=/bin/csh | 19:18 |
| seebs | # This should never happen; little do we know. | 19:18 |
| seebs | echo "What the \$SHELL?" >&2 | 19:18 |
| kergoth | as opposed to PWD, which is "This variable shall represent an absolute pathname of the current working directory." | 19:18 |
| seebs | I don't think that code ever executed. | 19:18 |
| seebs | Huh. I ... hmm. | 19:19 |
| seebs | Yeah, that's odd. Because "a pathname" is almost useless. | 19:19 |
| kergoth | there's no guarantee PATH is what it was when the shell was spawned.. | 19:19 |
| seebs | Yeah. | 19:19 |
| kergoth | so having to search to find it could find the wrong thing | 19:19 |
| kergoth | weird | 19:19 |
| seebs | Or $PWD, for a path with at least one slash but no leading slash. | 19:19 |
| seebs | Or consider insanity like | 19:20 |
| kergoth | i'm guessing most things make it absolute an yway, but it's strange that the standard doesn't see mto require it | 19:20 |
| seebs | ln -s /bin/sh /tmp/dummy; export SHELL=/tmp/dummy; rm /tmp/dummy | 19:20 |
| seebs | There you go. SHELL was sent to a value representing a pathname of the preferred command-line interpreter. | 19:20 |
| seebs | Heck, if I want to be dogmatic, I can point out that it doesn't say "a pathname on this host". | 19:21 |
| seebs | "/usr/xpg4/bin/sh", which is "a" pathname for the desired command interpreter. On Solaris. I think. | 19:21 |
| kergoth | huh ,yeah, it doesn't say it has to exist or anything | 19:21 |
| kergoth | basically its value is useless | 19:21 |
| seebs | Be careful when you stare into the POSIX spec, for the POSIX spec also stares into you. | 19:21 |
| kergoth | hahaha | 19:21 |
| kergoth | true | 19:21 |
| seebs | Standards interpretation is very vulnerable to overthinking. | 19:22 |
| kergoth | i was hoping/expecting it to be sane in this context... that was silly of me | 19:22 |
| kergoth | it's kind of scary what *isn't* defined/explicit in there | 19:22 |
| seebs | I play D&D-like-games, and I note that they have the exact same problem. | 19:22 |
| kergoth | and we just assume | 19:22 |
| seebs | And indeed, one of the major recentish releases was built around *dropping* a ton of specification and saying "look, the reason we have a person run the game is so they can make reasonable judgment calls". | 19:23 |
| seebs | Because the attempts at formal specifications just made even weirder debates about what was specified. | 19:23 |
| kergoth | hah, yeah, that makes sense. there'd be creative ways of working around the ambiguities anyway, might as well give them full lattitude | 19:23 |
| seebs | There were these insanely complicated arguments that would arise out of combinations of bits and pieces of wording. | 19:24 |
| seebs | There was one I found where it is *completely obvious* what the rule means. | 19:25 |
| seebs | And by that I mean, every gamer I know thinks that it is totally obvious. | 19:25 |
| seebs | And it's about a 50-50 split on which of two answers they think is "totally obvious". | 19:25 |
| kergoth | nice. | 19:25 |
| seebs | And that ambiguity has been in the rule system for probably 30 years. | 19:25 |
| seebs | And in all that time, it's never really been made completely clear, but everyone reads it a given way and finds it consistent. | 19:26 |
| kergoth | hmm, I wonder if devtool should get some functionality added to make it easier to override bits coming from outside the source tree, e.g. defconfig or other file:// bits | 19:29 |
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