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KostaZHi guys. I'd like to work with Kontron COMe board under Yocto. So, I'm looking for BSP meta layer (I guess). Can you please point me to the right direction? 10x.05:56
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KostaZHi guys. I'd like to work with Kontron COMe board under Yocto. So, I'm looking for BSP meta layer (I guess). Can you please point me to the right direction? 10x.06:08
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CroftonKostaZ, have you looked at layers.openembedded.org06:41
KostaZLooking now... Thanks.06:41
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KostaZAt layers.openembedded.org I see "meta-fri2" BSP layer which is for Kontron "Fish River Island 2" BSP.06:46
KostaZCrofton, would you suggest to start with meta-fri2 BSP layer and modify it for the Kontron COMe board?06:47
LetoThe2ndKostaZ: if the boards share some significant relationship, yes.06:48
KostaZLetoThe2nd, not sure about the relationship **at all**. Can you please suggest more relevant BSP layer?06:50
LetoThe2ndKostaZ: i cannot, as i'm not familiar with neither of the boards. what i mean is, its rather pointless to base your support off some x86 target if yours is ARM, for example06:50
LetoThe2ndKostaZ: usually its a good technique to base your own bsp off the generic one for the SoC/platform in use.06:51
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LetoThe2ndKostaZ: a short googling shows that the COMe stuff seems to be x86... so iron out the cpu etc. maybe the minnowboard stuff can be interesting for you.06:55
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KostaZLetoThe2nd: I'm looking at minnowboard now... But do you mean that **any** x86 board will do?07:25
KostaZLetoThe2nd: Does "meta-intel" looks like a generic x86 BSP layer?07:33
LetoThe2ndKostaZ: No idea if any x86 board will do, but if you're going down to a very generic x86 setup, it will hopefully at least boot very quick. probably it will even be enough to just use the generic x86 support in poky and just tweak the tune.07:35
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bluelightningmorning all08:12
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topikhas anyone ever included glib-2.0 python bindings in the image?08:24
topikapparently adding glib-2.0 only isn't sufficient08:24
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alexlarssonAre there any discussion about some kind of long term support for a recent yocto release?08:42
alexlarssonI'm interested in that since we're using yocto as the base for xdg-app runtimes.08:42
mcfrisktopik: afaik those bindings are disabled in current glib-2.008:43
mcfriskalexlarsson: has any yocto release seen support? afaik, no.08:45
bluelightningalexlarsson: we really only support the last two major releases as stable branches08:45
bluelightningmcfrisk: what's that supposed to mean?08:45
alexlarssonbluelightning: and there is no interest in some joint collaboration on a longer term supported base?08:45
mcfriskbluelightning: are the packages in dizzy/fido maintained after release with security updates?08:46
mcfriskafaik, no.08:46
bluelightningmcfrisk: we've merged a number of CVE-fixing patches into those branches, so yes08:47
bluelightningdo we patch every single one ? no08:47
mcfriskbluelightning: exactly, there are some packages supported but most not.08:47
bluelightningwe do the best we can with the resources we have08:47
mcfriskI know. I'm just trying to be honest here.08:48
alexlarssonIs there some defined "core" which gets security updates?08:48
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bluelightningalexlarsson: I think there would be interest yes, we've always said that beyond that the community is welcome to step up and continue maintenance08:48
bluelightningmcfrisk: implying that there's "no support" isn't being honest though08:49
alexlarssonI mean, i completely understand not wanting to support *all* the stuff in oe08:49
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Croftonmcfrisk, for long term support, you either find a group of people with a common interest or talk to one off the commercial vendors08:51
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bluelightningpretty much everything in OE-Core *ought* to be getting security updates back to the last two stable releases, so that's what we aim for08:51
Croftonor go it alone08:51
mcfriskI've talked with commercial vendors, I see what they do, and mostly don't. And we have one.08:51
* Crofton is being polite :)08:52
CroftonAnd I need to run, cleaning up at camp08:52
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joshuaglwe certainly try to maintain the stable branches, fido has merged >200 patches since it was released - but it's largely a one-man spare time job08:54
bboozzootopik: what do you mean by glib-2.0 python bindings? pygtk or gobject introspection ones?09:07
topiki think it's the pygtk09:15
topikimport glib09:15
topikah, actually it's pygobject09:16
topikbut i'm using the misc functions from the glib module09:16
bboozzootopik: you can just just python09:21
bboozzooit seems like some of the misc functions are directly avaible in glib module09:22
topikbut the module is not a python default module09:24
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topikfor the record: adding python-pygobject to the core_image_extra_install also installs the glib module09:54
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lpapphi, hmm, it seems that opkg list-installed cannot be run as non-root?10:51
lpappopkg list-installed10:51
lpappCollected errors: * opkg_conf_load: Could not create lock file /var/lib/opkg/lock: Permission denied.10:51
lpappAs it seems, /var/lib is not writeable by anyone else than root.10:52
lpappis there a simple way around to this? Otherwise, I will create a setuid binary, but it would be a pity.10:52
lpappI think getting information ought to be possible as simple users, no?10:52
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lpappon my desktop at least, I can query information from my package manager about packages.10:57
rburtonyeah that's always annoyed me10:58
rburtonshould be a fairly simple patch10:58
rburtonno need to lock the database for that10:59
lpappyeah, I was thinking about the same solution.10:59
rburtoniirc you need to be root to run the compare-version logic too11:00
rburtonwhich is equally stupid, but moot as the compare-version option is broken anyway11:00
lpapp:-)11:05
lpappare you up for creating the patch then? ;-)11:05
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zwerchHello again. I have a recipe which adds a initscript via INITSCRIPT_NAME & _PARAMS. How can I bbappend this away? I tried INITSCRIPT_PARAMS = "", but this doesn't seem to work right.11:12
rburtonlpapp: i have a patch for the compare version logic but was just going to file a bug at some point for the root thing11:15
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bluelightningzwerch: it looks like you could set INHIBIT_UPDATERCD_BBCLASS = "1"11:26
lpapprburton: should that be done on the yocto bugtracker?11:27
rburtonyes11:27
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lpapprburton: 817411:32
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zwerchbluelightning: so INHIBIT_UPDATERCD_BBCLASS = "1" in the bbappend would prevent bitbake from using the update-rc.d class in the recipe?11:54
zwerchbluelightning: thanks!11:59
zwerchit worked11:59
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jkuI'm now seeing "The license listed MIT-X was not in the licenses collected for recipe xf86-input-vmmouse". What is it really trying to tell me? Reading license.bbclass isn't helping so far...12:20
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jkuI think that didn't happen when I was updating the recipe a while ago12:22
rburtondid you use wipe-sysroot?12:23
rburton(at some point in the past)12:23
jkusure12:23
rburtoni think i found a bug in it :)12:23
rburtonhm actually the license thing was in wipe-deploy, which isn't in git12:24
rburtonafaik its basically saying "the deploy directory should contains MIT-X but its not there, which shouldn't happen as it that should have been copied earlier int he build"12:25
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rburtonmy wipe deploy was deleting the files but not the stamps, so i see this occasionally and i fixed that last week - but nobody else has this script.12:25
jkuhmm, I usually avoid touching deploy (except for removing very old images once in a while)12:26
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CromFrHi all !13:05
CromFrI wonder if there is a simple way to include official debian packages built from source in yocto?13:06
CromFri mean using the debian source package to fetch source code, apply debian patches (eventually yocto patches too) and build it using yocto compiler & optimizations13:08
bluelightningCromFr: there's no automated way that I could recommend, no13:10
LetoThe2ndCromFr: inside the oe buildsystem its not that easy, it basically would mean create some very clever scripting. externally for one specific package, using a poky generated SDK.... not that hard, probably.13:11
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jkuLetoThe2nd, CromFr: there's at least one recipe in oe-core that actually does that (fetches a debian diff, applies it, then applies all debian patches that just appeared in debian/patches/). Really hacky if you ask me13:37
zwerchbluelightning: your suggestion didn't work :( I don't know what I'm doing wrong.13:38
lpappjku: after all you can override the patch task to customize it :)13:39
jkuon my list of "software packaging methods that guarantee no-one understands what's happening" this one is moderately high13:40
LetoThe2ndjku: certainly possible, yes. but nothing that deserves the term "maintainable" at the moment.13:40
jkuLetoThe2nd: that was aptly demonstrated last week by the discovery of several recipes that were apparently trying to do similar things but where the patches weren't actually ever applied ...13:42
* LetoThe2nd muses on pouring the generic mechanism into a bbclass... and then... (insanity starts about here.)13:43
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mcfriskjku: the official way to unpack and apply patches to a debian source package is "dpkg-source -x path_to_dsc", see https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules . There are a number of Debian source package formats which can handle patches to upstream sources in different ways.14:02
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bluelightningzwerch: oh, I thought  you said it did work above ?14:27
bluelightningzwerch: it won't stop your recipe actually installing the file to /etc/init.d though, that's something you need to take care of separately14:28
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zwerchbluelightning: yeah I thought so, but that was something else ^^ I figured something else out I think, but thanks anyway :)14:40
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ericbuttershi! i got a systemd service file (located in etc/systemd/system), i pulled this out of svn.. from a supplier -- how can i tell systemd to enable this service? i hope my issue is clear to you ;)16:06
rburtonericbutters: have a look at the systemd class16:07
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khemericbutters: its not clear if you are asking how to package it during build time so that its enabled by default when that image is booted ? or are you pulling it into a booted system16:22
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nerdboyyoohoo, otavio ...17:48
* nerdboy playing hard to get17:49
lpappnerdboy: hi17:52
nerdboyyo, how's it hangin'?17:54
nerdboysomeday i need to buy you a beer so i can say "here's your beer Lazlo..."17:54
nerdboyhopefully remembering that correctly...17:58
lpapp+s :)18:01
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nerdboyotavio: how are the imx28-evk builds tested?  in qemu?19:02
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nerdboydo they ever get booted on real hardware?  as in testing the mmc pinmux thing?19:03
lpappnerdboy: you alright?19:04
nerdboyabout to test my own kernel config19:05
nerdboyyocto defconfig doesn't work19:05
nerdboyor else it's a different problem19:06
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nerdboyvut i think i narrowed it down to kernel config, since the .dtb looks good afaict19:06
nerdboy*but19:06
nerdboyand it does boot off the right mmc slot with 2.6.3519:07
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