| kergoth | and a fresh do_configure copies the files fine, i suspect a race | 00:05 |
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| * kergoth tries again | 00:05 | |
| kergoth | sometimes i wish bitbake handled REPLACES, for cases where one recipe is a superset of another, but i can see that causing possible problems with the sysroot content changing under something that depends on the files | 00:08 |
| kergoth | hmm | 00:08 |
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| xulfer | kergoth: So I should just throw AUTOREV into PV as well? | 00:17 |
| kergoth | no, as i said, SRCPV goes there | 00:17 |
| kergoth | it's SRCREV-based, which already includes autorev as appropriate | 00:17 |
| kergoth | e.g. PV .= "+git${SRCPV}" | 00:18 |
| kergoth | see the metadata, there are lots of examples | 00:18 |
| xulfer | ah okay. thanks again. | 00:18 |
| kergoth | np | 00:18 |
| kergoth | aha, and shadow failed again. if i bitbake -c configure shadow, it works, but a bitbake core-image-minimal fails in do_configure for shadow | 00:20 |
| kergoth | something must be mucking around with the manifests, because configuredeps is correct in the failed case, and bitbake -c configure shadow after the failure continues to fail | 00:21 |
| kergoth | er, check that, it just worked running configure explicitly after hte failure, bah | 00:21 |
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| kergoth | aha, got it | 00:31 |
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| kergoth | in the non-gplv3 case, target gettext's macros aren't available, since we don't want the old gplv2 gettext macros cluttering up things. the problem with that is, aclocal_copy_aclocals only picks up direct native deps of target recipes, and gettext-native doesn't provide the macros, gettext-minimal-native does, which is depended on by gettext-native. | 00:32 |
| kergoth | adding gettext-minimal-native to DEPENDS_GETTEXT, so it gets included explicitly and directly, resolves the issue | 00:33 |
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| Marex | khem: thanks for the nios2 review ;-) | 02:39 |
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| kergoth | ugh, what the hell | 02:55 |
| kergoth | we remove incompatible licenses from the manifest | 02:55 |
| kergoth | this is a *terrible* idea | 02:55 |
| kergoth | if i set gplv3 as not allowed, and a gplv3 package somehow gets into the image, the last thing i want the code to do is *lie* to me about it, hiding the incompatible licenses from the manifest | 02:56 |
| kergoth | no, the opposite, i want the build to stop if something i say isn't allowed ends up in my filesystem | 02:56 |
| * kergoth adds a plan of attack to fix this properly | 02:57 | |
| * kergoth adds todo to open a bug tomorrow | 02:57 | |
| kergoth | This boggles my mind, that we'd do this. it's a licensing-related lawsuit waiting to happen | 02:58 |
| * kergoth rolls eyes | 02:58 | |
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| kanupatar | hi guys | 05:05 |
| kanupatar | How can I get my yocto version. I have the complete yocto zip. | 05:05 |
| kanupatar | bitbake -v tells its is 1.22.0 | 05:06 |
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| kanupatar | hello | 05:14 |
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| Marex | uh, zip ? | 05:29 |
| Marex | did you check for example meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf for DISTRO_VERSION ? | 05:30 |
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| drou | hi guys | 06:47 |
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| gunnarx | I'm preparing an example, maybe bug-report, for a funky behavior. What do you propose I base it on? current tip of master, tip of some other branch, or some tag? | 08:24 |
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| gunnarx | I'll just choose current tip of fido then... | 08:29 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 08:31 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #497 of nightly-multilib is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-multilib/builds/497 | 09:54 | |
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| [Sno] | otavio: I figured out why java crashes - https://jerboaa.fedorapeople.org/presentations/OpenJDK_Zero_FOSDEM_2015-02-01.pdf - it was the MCJIT limitation which compiles modules and not functions and can't recompile | 11:14 |
| [Sno] | so first function is compiled fine and all following "get_function_address" calls result in null pointers | 11:15 |
| [Sno] | I have to add a new module for each java function to be compiled ... | 11:16 |
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| kergoth | bluelightning: any thoughts on https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/compare/openembedded:master...kergoth:scriptutils-log-improvements ? i could see 'oe.scriptutils: also send WARNING to stderr' being potentially objectionable just due to it being different than bitbake proper | 15:16 |
| jmesmon | Is there a way to disable generation of the sstate-cache? I've got one automated builder that exists to test full rebuilds without sstate, and I'd like to avoid some of the disk space hit the sstate-cache takes. | 15:16 |
| aj_c | I sent a patch to core-oe but someone made me a correction, actually the correction it makes sense so I'm rewritten the patches. should I uploaded the patch again or just reply to the same subject? | 15:17 |
| aj_c | jmesmon: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Enable_sstate_cache | 15:18 |
| jmesmon | aj_c: I don't see any note about _disable_ing in that page. Is there some keywork I'm missing? | 15:19 |
| jmesmon | s/keywork/keyword/ | 15:19 |
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| kergoth | aj_c: re-submit the series with 'PATCHv2' instead of 'PATCH', generally. there's a commandline argument for it. ideally also list the changes in v2 in the 0/N email. | 15:20 |
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| JaMa | jmesmon: I've sent patch to oe-core to allow this, but it wasn't ever merged | 15:22 |
| JaMa | jmesmon: http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/17039/ | 15:22 |
| bluelightning | kergoth: doesn't bitbake output errors on stderr these days? | 15:23 |
| kergoth | bluelightning: yes, but recipetool & friends don't :) | 15:24 |
| kergoth | hence the patches | 15:24 |
| jmesmon | :( so far I've avoided using a patched up oe-core. | 15:24 |
| kergoth | JaMa, jmesmon: hmm, wonder if overriding SSTATETASKS would work | 15:24 |
| bluelightning | kergoth: ah right, I see... sorry my brain's a bit fried today :( | 15:24 |
| kergoth | no worries, it's friday :) | 15:24 |
| kergoth | i might submit an RFC to send WARNING to stderr for bitbake, its debatable. i do think it makes sense, though, less for scripts to grep out | 15:25 |
| kergoth | i ran into this with newappend, as i wanted it highly scriptable, so you could grab the new append from its stdout without having to grep out the log warnings and crap | 15:25 |
| kergoth | in this case the logs aren't the primary output for the user, they really do belong out of band | 15:26 |
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| jmesmon | kergoth: ah, somehow just force it to be empty? what would be the best way to do that? I suppose just setting it with `SSTATETASKS=""` in local.conf won't be sufficient because bbclasses will later append to it. | 15:28 |
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| kergoth | I *think* the series is probably worth submitting to the list, possibly without the warnings commit, though, and send that as an RFC | 15:28 |
| kergoth | jmesmon: indeed. could try SSTATETASKS_forcevariable = "". no idea if it'll work, but might be worth trying | 15:28 |
| kergoth | that is, the forcevariablew ill work, but whether emptying SSTATETASKS will have hte desired effect, that i don't know | 15:29 |
| kergoth | in theory it should | 15:29 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | hi, I need to make a recipe of a tool that has a custom Makefile. do you have any bbclass helper to just set the CC includes and cross stuff and call $(MAKE) clean/install and so on? | 15:29 |
| * LocutusOfBorg1 usually writes a cmake script prior to write a recipe | 15:30 | |
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| kergoth | LocutusOfBorg1: that's already done where it's possible to do so. we export env vars for CFLAGS, CC, etc, and then run make -e, which lets the env vars override the makefiles. not pretty, but *usually* works. even better than that would be to read the makefiles in question and hand craft an EXTRA_OEMAKE to pass just the variables in that it obeys, rather than forcing the env vars to flow in with -e | 15:31 |
| kergoth | LocutusOfBorg1: make install isn't run by default, because without autotools or similar, there's no standard in regular makefiles for how to make it install into an alternate root | 15:31 |
| kergoth | with automake, it's DESTDIR | 15:32 |
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| kergoth | but not all hand-crafted buildsystems use that | 15:32 |
| kergoth | so you'll need to write a do_install | 15:32 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | actually I just discovered that the makefile seems to be not using $(CC) | 15:32 |
| kergoth | you'll want to read through its makefiles regardless, to see what vars it obeys, make sure it's not doing anything crazy, make sure it has vars for the target paths that we can override (e.g. prefix/bindir/mandir/etc), and make sure it has an eequivalent to DESTDIR | 15:32 |
| kergoth | heh, tahts even worse :) | 15:32 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | kergoth, sure, I know that, the problem actually was the build, for the install I don't care too much :) | 15:32 |
| kergoth | sounds like you'll need to patch it up | 15:32 |
| * kergoth nods | 15:33 | |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | yes, thanks | 15:33 |
| kergoth | sometimes we practically have to rewrite the things | 15:33 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | I was looking at the run.do_compile and I discovered it was "correct" | 15:33 |
| kergoth | sometimes devs don't make the best build engineers :) | 15:33 |
| kergoth | lots of blind copying and pasting around of things | 15:33 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | trust me as a debian developer I know this so well :) | 15:33 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | usually I write a build system and push it upstream | 15:33 |
| kergoth | ahh yes, desktop distros have the same issues with getting their vars obeyed | 15:34 |
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| kergoth | particularly optimizations and whatnot | 15:34 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | but for $dailyjob doing this stuff is costly | 15:34 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | but meh, needed :) | 15:34 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | btw I did create an alias called "rebuild" that does bitbake -ccleanall $1 && bitbake $1, do you have any bitbake tool that does already this? | 15:35 |
| kergoth | remember that that won't necessarily rebuild from scratch, if sstate is around it'll use it | 15:35 |
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| LocutusOfBorg1 | trus story | 15:35 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | true :) | 15:35 |
| kergoth | if you just want to force it to build from scratch and don't care about possible remnants from the previous build, you can force it to build without cleaning by doing e.g. bitbake -C configure $1 | 15:36 |
| kergoth | but if you do worry about remnants, you can force a build from scratch by keeping your cleanall and then doing the -C | 15:36 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | the latter :) | 15:36 |
| kergoth | -C flags configure as 'tainted', forcing it to run the task even if it thinks it doesn't need to | 15:36 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | I use -C when I play with custom Makefiles :) | 15:36 |
| kergoth | ah :) | 15:36 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | yes sure | 15:36 |
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| kergoth | yeah, there's no better way to clean and rebuild still | 15:36 |
| kergoth | bitbake has new syntax other than -c btw, which is pretty cool | 15:37 |
| kergoth | recipe:task | 15:37 |
| kergoth | bitbake foo:do_clean bar:do_configure | 15:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | usually yes, specially when I move kernel modules to builtin | 15:37 |
| kergoth | so i've been thining about writing a custom bitbake scheduler which forces do_clean* to run first | 15:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | oh... something new | 15:37 |
| kergoth | then you could bitbake foo:do_clean foo | 15:37 |
| kergoth | and it'd do what you'd expect | 15:37 |
| kergoth | currently it wont.. | 15:37 |
| kergoth | order would be undefined | 15:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | actually I do this when I want to clean things https://paste.debian.net/312344/ | 15:38 |
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| kergoth | denix: what's the status of 4.1 kernel in meta-ti, is it fully supported? | 15:52 |
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| kergoth | Has anyone else tried doing a non-gplv3 build recently? | 16:40 |
| kergoth | I'm wondering if the gettext failure is something specific to my environment | 16:41 |
| * kergoth tries a build without any layers but oe-core | 16:41 | |
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| kergoth | RP: https://github.com/kergoth/meta-mentor/commit/0d6ebec - thoughts? | 16:42 |
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| RP | kergoth: We do run a limited gplv3 build on the AB | 16:53 |
| RP | kergoth: that would seem to make sense FWIW | 16:53 |
| kergoth | k. i'll do some checks without local changes to check sanity, and if i keep hitting the shadow build failures without this, will see about submitting upstream | 16:53 |
| kergoth | thanks | 16:54 |
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| * kergoth ponders | 16:57 | |
| * kergoth checks the AB | 16:58 | |
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| * kergoth wonders why it's succeeding there, if his logic about shadow and gettext is accurate, must be missing something, digging further | 17:01 | |
| RP | kergoth: I did mean to go and look at one of my patches after your feedback btw, only to realise it slipped into master before I altered it :( | 17:03 |
| RP | kergoth: I did adjust the other one, just wanted to mention I'd not intentionally ignored the feedback, just screwed up at patch juggling :/ | 17:03 |
| kergoth | no worries, i just figured you might have decided against use of re for performance reasons | 17:07 |
| * kergoth didn't actually test that anyway, just threw it out as a possibilit | 17:07 | |
| * kergoth goes to get food | 17:08 | |
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| denix | kergoth: yes, 4.1 should be fully working now. we are about to make a release with it, but it's fido based. so if you have any issues, especially against master, please report | 17:15 |
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| kergoth | ah, cool, new processor sdk release coming soon? | 17:19 |
| kergoth | will do | 17:19 |
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| denix | kergoth: well, processor sdk is a public name :) I'm making an internal sdk release, which then becomes a processor sdk... everything should be in meta-ti/meta-arago, plus the standard oe-core/meta-oe and few other layers | 17:30 |
| kergoth | ah, right. cool | 17:30 |
| kergoth | clearly unfamiliar with the process :) | 17:30 |
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| dasabhi | hey guys i am getting the following error when i try to use bitbake to make an image | 18:40 |
| dasabhi | mv: target '3.8.7' is not a directory | 18:40 |
| dasabhi | | creation of pre-processed config data failed | 18:40 |
| dasabhi | | config of "standard/clanton" failed | 18:40 |
| dasabhi | any one know a fix for this? | 18:40 |
| seebs | RP, or possibly other people: Has anyone used meta-mingw with gcc 5.2 yet? I'm assuming "no" since the bbappends are still all numbered 4.9. | 18:41 |
| seebs | I've worked around the obvious-ish things, and now I'm getting mysterious failures which are actually not mysterious at all, in which host cc is not defining _WIN32, leading to #error directives. And I am wondering whether I have missed an obvious step that's supposed to set that up. | 18:42 |
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| bluelightning | dasabhi: this may help: https://communities.intel.com/thread/52891 | 18:51 |
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| dasabhi | hey so i used bitbake -c devshell linux-yocto-clanton | 19:10 |
| dasabhi | and i used make oldconfig in the new shell | 19:10 |
| dasabhi | and then just used make | 19:10 |
| dasabhi | it looks like it compiled succesfully | 19:10 |
| dasabhi | but i have no idea where this kernel image is | 19:10 |
| dasabhi | any one have any ideas? | 19:10 |
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| kergoth | just running make probably isn't going to accomplish what you want | 19:25 |
| kergoth | Hmm, how did the errno import end up missing from the fetch fix, i did test builds here.. | 19:25 |
| * kergoth scratches head | 19:25 | |
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| aehs29 | khem`: hey can I pm you? | 20:21 |
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| dasabhi | hey i just succuessfully used bitbake to compile a kernel.... | 20:50 |
| dasabhi | so...where in the file system is the kernel> | 20:50 |
| dasabhi | ? | 20:50 |
| dasabhi | kernel image** | 20:50 |
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| kergoth | dasabhi: see the yocto project documentation. it goes the same place the images go, under tmp/deploy/images | 21:14 |
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| dasabhi | kergoth: i ran the file command on these images and one of them said | 21:19 |
| dasabhi | kergoth: : x86 boot sector | 21:19 |
| dasabhi | kergoth: is that the kernel image? its called bzImage-clanton...something something | 21:19 |
| kergoth | yes, bzImage is a kernel image | 21:19 |
| dasabhi | kergoth: ty :) | 21:20 |
| dasabhi | kergoth: breh | 21:20 |
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| RP | seebs: I've not tried 5.2 with mingw, no | 21:28 |
| seebs | So, there were a few things that were pretty easy to fix, and apparently it's generally-known that libgomp may not work in mingw32 right now, so I could turn that off. | 21:35 |
| seebs | Then I ran into a bunch of warnings about how mingw headers could only be used with mingw32 targets. I note that it's just "gcc" being called to build these, and I think that's host gcc. Is that the problem, or is this something else? | 21:35 |
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| kergoth | sometimes I wonder if we should let recipetool default to the workspace layer, and auto-create it, instead of requiring the user specify the layer all the time | 21:41 |
| kergoth | just to give them somewhere local to do their work, then they can move it somewhere permanent | 21:41 |
| kergoth | i end up creating a meta-local with yocto-layer and adding it to my build with bitbake-layers and then run recipetool against that, when doing development | 21:42 |
| kergoth | really common pattern for me | 21:42 |
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| kergoth | oh, i see. it's target -> target -> native that gets halted, not target -> native -> native | 22:54 |
| kergoth | then why is this failing at times.. | 22:54 |
| bluelightning | kergoth: that's what devtool add is for though | 22:55 |
| kergoth | I'm not creating a new recipe, though, particularly not for external sources. 90% of the time i need to modify how something is building / fix a bug in an existing recipe | 22:56 |
| bluelightning | right, then devtool modify is your friend :) | 22:56 |
| kergoth | usually via metadata, not source modification | 22:56 |
| bluelightning | so how does recipetool come into it? | 22:56 |
| kergoth | all the many commands for appending / altering a recipe? | 22:57 |
| kergoth | thats what half of its subcommands are for | 22:57 |
| bluelightning | ok | 22:57 |
| bluelightning | FYI I'm preparing a patchset for devtool/recipetool/ext SDK; the WIP is on paule/extsdk-devtool-fixes | 22:57 |
| kergoth | i'm saying i have to create a layer for it to do its work in | 22:57 |
| kergoth | since i don't want to shove untested stuff into my main layers yet | 22:57 |
| bluelightning | hmm, I guess I see your point | 22:57 |
| kergoth | so my thought was what if recipetool defaulted to workspace the same as devtool, and had an option to specify a non-default layer to operate against | 22:58 |
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| kergoth | not sure if that'd be good or not, just a possibility to consider | 22:58 |
| kergoth | might be overloading the purpose of workspace | 22:58 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 22:58 | |
| bluelightning | it's all about what makes sense for the overall workflow(s) | 22:58 |
| kergoth | random idea from my long list of random oe/yocto ideas :P | 22:58 |
| kergoth | yeah, speaking of, do we have a list of use cases we're looking to cover? | 22:59 |
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| bluelightning | I'm not sure I wrote a list; Richard kind of wrote something in an RFC a while back which was the basis for my mental model of things | 23:00 |
| kergoth | anyway, had just noticed a common pattern in my workflows of: yocto-layer create local 1; bitbake-layers add-layer meta-local; <some command to mess with bbappends in meta-local> during development, then migrate the changes, if appropriate, to their final destinations | 23:00 |
| * kergoth nods | 23:00 | |
| kergoth | k | 23:00 |
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| kergoth | e.g. i got sick of my debugging prints in autotools_copy_aclocals changing all my signatures, when i only cared about shadow, so i used recipetool newappend to create an append for shadow and shoved autotools_copy_aclocals () override or autotools_copy_aclocals_append () there while i was debugging it | 23:01 |
| kergoth | (shadow is what was exhibiting my gettext failures with non-gplv3) | 23:02 |
| bluelightning | it sounds like we need a way to turn on those debug messsages through vars | 23:02 |
| kergoth | but i readily admit my workflow might be different than most | 23:02 |
| bluelightning | or maybe they should always be there and you just see them with -D or in the logs | 23:02 |
| bluelightning | I'd be interested in an outline of what you typically do if you have time to post something to the list :) | 23:03 |
| kergoth | I can't imagine the need is a common one, i hate to add overhead by sprinkling debugs for unusual cases | 23:03 |
| kergoth | but then, i don't want to leave commented out bb.warn's around, like we have in that function right now.. | 23:03 |
| kergoth | heh | 23:03 |
| * kergoth is a bit torn on that | 23:04 | |
| bluelightning | I've had similar issues myself... signatures changing just through adding debug messages is pretty annoying | 23:04 |
| bluelightning | though fortunately not something I hit too often | 23:04 |
| kergoth | yeah, i guess keeping the debug messages in would avoid that, but i kind of shy away from too many of those after our experiences with bitbake -D becoming almost completely useless due to the excessive number of messages about non-unusual events.. | 23:06 |
| bluelightning | right, yes... to be honest I almost never use -D due to that | 23:07 |
| bluelightning | it's improved, but still doesn't seem to print things I typically need to see | 23:07 |
| bluelightning | I don't think anyone who's looked at it is quite sure how to best improve it though, least of all me | 23:08 |
| kergoth | I'd like to focus on logging messages for unusual or unlikely events, and then only add debug informational messages to add context, with an eye toward what it'll be used for | 23:08 |
| kergoth | the parsing messages are clearly to answer the 'did my recipe / config file get parsed'? question, but that's better answered with other tools nowadays, particularly with variable history tracking and whatnot | 23:09 |
| kergoth | so those really don't serve much purpose anymore | 23:09 |
| * kergoth ponders | 23:09 | |
| bluelightning | yeah, that makes sense... at least we could increase the debug level required to make those show up | 23:09 |
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| kergoth | wtf. i just did bitbake -f shadow:do_configure | 23:12 |
| kergoth | and it's running shadow:do_compile after the configure | 23:12 |
| kergoth | that's not what i told you to do | 23:12 |
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| kergoth | damn, | 23:28 |
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