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| Guest88924 | Did anyone performance tests of running a program using a custom kernel created by yocto vs running over an unmodified ffos ? | 03:44 |
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| Guest88924 | The thing is that I would like to see if yocto is useful to create images that performs better | 03:45 |
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| Snert | seems like the results of such performance testing would be so highly specific to your task at hand. | 03:48 |
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| Snert | meaning you'll have to do that yerself to get meaningful results. | 03:48 |
| jaberme | (Sorry I accidentally left) Did anyone performance tests of running a program using a custom kernel created by yocto vs running over an unmodified ffos ? The thing is that I would like to see if yocto is useful to create images that performs better | 03:49 |
| Snert | seems like the results of such performance testing would be so highly specific to your task at hand. | 03:49 |
| Snert | meaning you'll have to do that yerself to get meaningful results. | 03:49 |
| kergoth | yocto is a build tool, not magic. but yes, you'd have to do your own performance testing for whatever your needs are | 03:51 |
| jaberme | Ahm. But then, Yocto can be (for example) to optimize a run. I mean, if I have a program running on a embedded device, using a typical kernel, may Yocto help me to reduce (editing some layers) to reduce the imagen size and performance? Or Yocto simply helps you to port OS to different devices? (thanks for your previous responses Snert | 03:51 |
| jaberme | thx kergoth | 03:52 |
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| bluelightning | morning all] | 08:30 |
| soderstrom | bluelightning: morning :) | 08:38 |
| bluelightning | hi soderstrom | 08:40 |
| soderstrom | bluelightning: how are you this morning? :) | 08:41 |
| bluelightning | ok thanks, how about you? | 08:41 |
| soderstrom | I'm perfectly fine afaik ^^ | 08:43 |
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| Ulfalizer | what's the point of the packaging step? does the installation step make use of binary packages? is the target system expected to have a package manager installed and support dynamic updates that way? | 09:18 |
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| Ulfalizer | as in, what use is having e.g. a bunch of RPMs for the packages? | 09:19 |
| neverpanic | The latter | 09:20 |
| Ulfalizer | okay, thanks | 09:20 |
| neverpanic | You can have $pkg installed and can install the debug symbols on demand, for example. | 09:20 |
| Ulfalizer | ok, makes sense | 09:20 |
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| neverpanic | Ulfalizer: Great, looking forward to see you next week then :) | 09:32 |
| Ulfalizer | neverpanic: ah, didn't realize it was you :P | 09:33 |
| Ulfalizer | same :) | 09:33 |
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| rburton | Ulfalizer: and the former, the images are built from packages | 09:39 |
| Ulfalizer | rburton: are those in e.g. RPM format though? i assumed it just fetched stuff directly from the working directory. | 09:42 |
| Ulfalizer | or WORKDIR or whatever it's called :) | 09:43 |
| rburton | no, it uses the packages | 09:45 |
| rburton | rpm or deb or opk | 09:45 |
| Ulfalizer | kk | 09:45 |
| rburton | because the packages are where the metadata and postinst scripts and so on are | 09:45 |
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| Ulfalizer | 5.3.12. in the manual makes it sound like it's copying stuff directly out of the workdir, but maybe i'm missing something re. what do_install does | 09:49 |
| neverpanic | do_install runs make install (or equiv) and puts files into a destdir, that will later be split into packages in do_package | 09:54 |
| neverpanic | when building images, meta/classes/image.bbclass defines a task do_rootfs that uses the packages to build an image | 09:54 |
| Ulfalizer | ah, okay, i think i'm following then | 09:55 |
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| raykinsella78 | hi folks - how do I override default configuration files that ship with Yocto - like /etc/network/interfaces | 11:02 |
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| raykinsella78 | I can do a bbappend, with my own version - but what will happen when it tries to copy over with it baulk? | 11:02 |
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| Crofton|work | raykinsella78, Like this: https://github.com/EttusResearch/meta-ettus/commit/da86e76d116798e386d073a18453aabb6179a09a | 11:14 |
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| blotunga | hi | 11:24 |
| blotunga | I'm trying to build an archive using the instructions from here: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Building_your_own_recipes_from_first_principles#Build_an_example_package_based_on_a_local_source_archive | 11:24 |
| blotunga | but I get: linux-yocto-custom.bb: Failure expanding variable do_patch: ExpansionError: Failure expanding variable SRCPV, expression was ${@bb.fetch2.get_srcrev(d)} which triggered exception FetchError: Fetcher failure: SRCREV was used yet no valid SCM was found in SRC_URI | 11:25 |
| blotunga | the bb file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/56RLR20j | 11:26 |
| blotunga | don't mind the hardcoded paths right now, i just want to see it run | 11:26 |
| blotunga | any ideas why it fails? | 11:26 |
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| bluelightning | blotunga: because you are not using git you need to set PV to a value that does not include SRCPV | 12:25 |
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| bluelightning | or rather, does not include ${SRCPV} | 12:25 |
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| blotunga | bluelightning: since I'm a complete beginner, can you show an example? | 12:25 |
| bluelightning | blotunga: the value you are setting in that recipe for PV is "${LINUX_VERSION}+git${SRCPV}" | 12:26 |
| blotunga | ah | 12:26 |
| blotunga | from the .inc file | 12:26 |
| bluelightning | the fact that you have ${SRCPV} in there is what's causing the error | 12:26 |
| bluelightning | no, it's in the recipe itself - i.e. what you put in pastebin | 12:26 |
| blotunga | ah yes | 12:27 |
| blotunga | because I was using it with git before | 12:27 |
| blotunga | damn | 12:27 |
| blotunga | and what should SRCREV be? | 12:28 |
| _4urele_ | Hi everyone, | 12:30 |
| _4urele_ | I'm using gstreamer, with libgstrtp, but i can't find symbols for libgstrtp... | 12:30 |
| _4urele_ | I can't find any libgstrtp-dbg | 12:31 |
| blotunga | bluelightning: thanks, it seems to work | 12:36 |
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| raykinsella78 | bluelightning: if a recipe has an existing do_install, how do I run something after it in bbappend ... I need to append another action. | 12:42 |
| raykinsella78 | do_install_append() ? | 12:43 |
| bluelightning | blotunga: SRCREV doesn't need to be set unless you're fetching from a version control system such as git | 12:43 |
| bluelightning | blotunga: great | 12:43 |
| blotunga | ah ok | 12:43 |
| bluelightning | raykinsella78: yes | 12:43 |
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| blotunga | i wonder where the sandbox/dev comes from when building: meta-sigma-arm = "sandbox/dev:f8768497fcba507a23996f7833a5ed4a93a33f3f", is there some trace from the original git version someweher? | 12:50 |
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| raykinsella78 | Currently 3 running tasks (708 of 2624): | 13:05 |
| raykinsella78 | god its taking an age | 13:05 |
| raykinsella78 | bluelightning: if I had SRC_URI reference to aproject/afile in a recipe and then the same file in a bbappend, will the original get ignored. | 13:11 |
| bboozzoo | any ideas where updateme that appears in kernel-yocto.bbclass comes from and what it does? | 13:11 |
| bboozzoo | s/updateme/configme/ | 13:13 |
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| bboozzoo | or is it just a bitbake task name being called explicitly? | 13:13 |
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| maxin | bboozzoo: configme comes from yocto-kernel-tools .. | 13:16 |
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| maxin | bboozzoo: Please have a look here: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/yocto-kernel-tools/tree/tools/configme | 13:18 |
| bboozzoo | looking right now | 13:18 |
| bboozzoo | so this is the place where config fragments get applied? | 13:19 |
| maxin | bboozzoo: yes, this handles the kernel configuration part | 13:20 |
| bboozzoo | hm, I'm trying to recreate something similar for linux-wandboard, came up with some inline python and simple cat $cfg >> defconfig loop, but it looks like configme does a lot more | 13:22 |
| raykinsella78 | folks is there anyway to show what receipes have a dependency on a specific package. | 13:22 |
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| maxin | raykinsella78: "bitbake -u depexp -g package-name" ? | 13:25 |
| raykinsella78 | maxim: does that not tell me the dependences of a given reciepe, | 13:26 |
| raykinsella78 | maxim: I want the reverse, a list of packages that depend upon it. | 13:26 |
| maxin | raykinsella78: It has a "Reverse Depends" section as well.. | 13:27 |
| otavio | rburton: http://ci.ossystems.com.br/job/fsl-community-bsp-master-next_x11-imx28evk/837/console | 13:27 |
| raykinsella78 | maxin: ok thanks I will take a look again | 13:27 |
| otavio | rburton: my builde reproduced the error | 13:28 |
| bluelightning | raykinsella78: sorry, could you explain what you meant re SRC_URI ? | 13:29 |
| raykinsella78 | bluelightning: say a given recipe has in its SRC_URI - recipe/files/afile | 13:31 |
| raykinsella78 | bluelightning: I then create another layer also with recipe/files/afile | 13:31 |
| raykinsella78 | bluelightning: with the afile from the second layer automagically override the first. | 13:32 |
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| bluelightning | raykinsella78: only if you have a bbappend for the recipe in that second layer containing FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend := "${THISDIR}/files:" in the directory next to the files dir | 13:36 |
| raykinsella78 | bluelightning: perfects, thanks for the tip | 13:37 |
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| bluelightning | you'll see that more-or-less boilerplate line in a lot of bbappends | 13:40 |
| raykinsella78 | bluelightning: had it already, just didn't make the connection ... | 13:41 |
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| bluelightning | ah ok, fair enough | 13:41 |
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| NewbNeedsHelp | yocto is officially making me feel stupid. I can't mount a thumb drive and I need to get files onto my wandboard. | 15:10 |
| NewbNeedsHelp | I set up a tftp server and I am trying to connect to it from yocto. When I run tftp on yocto I am told "Usage: tftp [OPTIONS] HOST [PORT]" but I can't get it to connect to the server (which is pingable from yocto) | 15:11 |
| NewbNeedsHelp | what is the syntax to connect to the tftp server from yocto? man tftp does not work | 15:11 |
| kergoth | "can't get it to connect" is not useful information. if you're getting an error, than give us the error. that said, you aren't 'on yocto'. yocto is an umbrella project that includes many things, including poky, the linux distribution you're likely running on your board | 15:13 |
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| NewbNeedsHelp | so should I ask for help on #poky? | 15:24 |
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| NewbNeedsHelp | I'm sorry if I am dumb and asking the wrong question | 15:25 |
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| NewbNeedsHelp | I am not getting an error. If I run "tftp 10.10.1.90:69" it merely tells me the usage. I've tried just about every combination of commands that I can think of. Unfortunately I don't know what the "OPTIONS" are | 15:27 |
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| NewbNeedsHelp | That worked. Thank you for the help. | 15:30 |
| NewbNeedsHelp | I think I'm good now. You all are life savers. | 15:30 |
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| Ulfalizer | how can i get the DESCRIPTION text of a recipe via the bitbake tool? | 16:04 |
| JaMa | bitbake -e recipe | grep ^DESCRIPTION= | 16:04 |
| rburton | Ulfalizer: low-fi way is bitbake -e [recipe] | grep -e ^DESCRIPTION= | 16:04 |
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| JaMa | rburton: still working on v2 for ${B} issue? | 16:05 |
| rburton | JaMa: yeah | 16:05 |
| rburton | JaMa: there's a new race with do_populate_lic_setscene | 16:06 |
| JaMa | k, just wanted to refresh it before starting new world build | 16:06 |
| Ulfalize1 | what's the last thing i wrote? | 16:07 |
| rburton | urgh, enters task with a [dirs] set, minute later it does os.getcwd() and that throws file not found | 16:07 |
| rburton | Ulfalize1: "how can i get the DESCRIPTION text of a recipe via the bitbake tool?" | 16:08 |
| Ulfalize1 | < Ulfalizer> maybe there isn't a one-to-one correspondence between the name you give to bitbake and .bb files, but work with me as i'm a noob :P | 16:08 |
| Ulfalize1 | i'll add that then. thanks. :) | 16:08 |
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| raykinsella781 | folks how do I specify a particular version of a recipe when more than one is available in my image file or at the command line? | 16:18 |
| rburton | raykinsella781: set PREFERRED_VERSION in your distro or layer config | 16:18 |
| raykinsella781 | rburton: thanks keep forgetting that ... | 16:19 |
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| raykinsella781 | Exception: NameError: global name 'imagetypes_getdepends' is not defined | 16:25 |
| raykinsella781 | odd | 16:25 |
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| raykinsella781 | how do I autoenable a systemd service when the image is being generated. | 18:09 |
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| kergoth | raykinsella781: see the SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE variable in systemd.bbclass. in master/2.0 it's enabled by default, not sure about your version, you can examine the class to see it. set to a value of "enable" to enable it | 18:19 |
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| raykinsella781 | kergoth: thanks got it! | 18:21 |
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| kergoth | RP: do you think we should move to using a stamp to indicate an out of date mirror tarball needs updating rather than removing it? I don't feel strongly either way. In theory it should only be removed if we successfully updated the clone in ud.clonedir.. i can see an argument that an out of date tarball is better than no tarball, but i can also see an argument that if you need a tarball for distribution, you should enable BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS=1 | 18:34 |
| kergoth | and make it a nonissue.. | 18:34 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 18:34 | |
| kergoth | and i forgot to cc bluelightning on a recipetool/devtool change again. i really need to get better about using Cc: headers in my commits | 18:35 |
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| RP | kergoth: BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS is set but we lost the tarball yesterday | 20:20 |
| RP | kergoth: turned out that repo was quite damaged and revisions went missing so I'm not surprised the fetcher had a fit :/ | 20:20 |
| RP | kergoth: but it did delete the old tarball and fail to create a new one since the fetch failed due to missing revisions | 20:21 |
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| kergoth | Huh, I wonder what codepath triggered its removal. Afaict the recently added one should only have hit on successfully updating clonedir. | 20:27 |
| kergoth | interesting | 20:27 |
| kergoth | We really need to sit down and start delineating more ideas on cases that need adding to the unit tests, perhaps a wiki page to start with | 20:27 |
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| RP | kergoth: yes. I wish I could sit down with this and figure out what happened but I'm in full fire fighting mode right now | 20:58 |
| RP | kergoth: I'd imagine force pushing a branch and then running a build against a removed commit and a new commit would do it | 20:59 |
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| RP | kergoth: <build rev A>; <force push B, replacing A>, <build rev B>, <build rev A> | 21:00 |
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| dasabhi | hey guys i compiled a kernel from scratch without bitbake | 21:11 |
| dasabhi | and its operational on the board | 21:11 |
| dasabhi | but i dont know how to ge the ethernet drivers working | 21:11 |
| dasabhi | as in i cannot ping google at all | 21:11 |
| dasabhi | and when i type ifconfig it doesnt even detect eth0 | 21:12 |
| dasabhi | any one know whats going on? | 21:13 |
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| Snert_ | if up eth0 | 21:15 |
| Snert_ | does nothing? | 21:15 |
| dasabhi | it did something | 21:15 |
| dasabhi | i see > | 21:15 |
| Snert_ | now do ifconfig | 21:15 |
| dasabhi | nothing | 21:15 |
| Snert_ | eth0 exists but it has no ip addy? | 21:15 |
| dasabhi | just returned > | 21:16 |
| Snert_ | hmmmm...okay beyond me. | 21:16 |
| dasabhi | no thats not possible, when i use a different kernel it connects to ethernet | 21:16 |
| xyzzy42 | ifconfig doesn't show interfaces that aren't up by default. ifconfig -a does them all, or specify an interface name to see it if it's up or not | 21:17 |
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| xyzzy42 | if eth0 really doesn't exist, problem is almost always driver not in kernel or device tree incorrect | 21:19 |
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| dasabhi | xyzzy42: yeah that is the issue, the kernel doesnt have the drivers | 21:20 |
| dasabhi | xyzzy42: thing is during cross compilation i don't know how to enable the right ethernet drivers | 21:20 |
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| malkauns | how do i add wireless-regdb to yocto? | 22:30 |
| malkauns | is it a kernel config setting or a image feature? | 22:30 |
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