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| paulbarker | I'm getting the dreaded "Package version for package X went backwards..." QA error when I change MACHINE | 13:54 |
| paulbarker | If a dependency of X has PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}" set, should X itself also have that set? | 13:54 |
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| diego_r | Hi. Does anybody know why this channel logs stop at end of 2015? https://www.yoctoproject.org/irc/ | 14:28 |
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| CTtpollard | diego_r: I've raised that before, would be good to get it fixed! | 14:29 |
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| diego_r | CTtpollard: I see, thanks | 14:31 |
| paulbarker | diego_r: You can use http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/ | 14:31 |
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| diego_r | paulbarker: thanks | 14:34 |
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| diego_r | Hi rburton. I'm confused about 'meta package' and package group, with respect to what we discussed here: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/yocto/yocto.20160212.txt (search for 'not a packagegroup, but maybe a metapackage') | 14:36 |
| diego_r | in another reply you say that 'a meta packages whose sole purpose is to bring in dependencies is a packagegroup' https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2014-March/018610.html | 14:38 |
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| rburton | diego_r: a packagegroup is a specific type of meta package | 15:01 |
| rburton | a meta package is a generic name for a package that has no content itself, just dependencies | 15:01 |
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| rburton | a packagegroup is something that is produced by a recipe inheriting packagegroup | 15:01 |
| rburton | whereas gstreamer-plugins-good is a metapackage that depends on all the individual gstreaer plugin packages but contains nothing itself | 15:02 |
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| diego_r | rburton: thanks, should be clearer now | 15:03 |
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| rburton | zeddii_home: do you understand the perf build system? | 15:50 |
| kageja | Hi Guys, | 15:50 |
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| kageja | i am newbie yocto | 15:50 |
| kageja | i use yocto fido | 15:50 |
| zeddii_home | rburton: I do. and then it changes. I was hunting a bug about two weeks ago and was seriously confused/pissed off at it. | 15:50 |
| kageja | i have variscite kit whis is VAR_STK_6_UL based on imx6 | 15:50 |
| rburton | zeddii_home: http://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Details/38137/ | 15:51 |
| kageja | anybody know usefull package manager ? Anybody can answer me ? | 15:51 |
| zeddii_home | rburton: looking. | 15:51 |
| rburton | zeddii_home: presumably a race as it appears to be compiling that file twice | 15:52 |
| rburton | zeddii_home: thought you might be able to fix it quicker than i can :) | 15:52 |
| rburton | (failed twice on the ab over the weekend) | 15:52 |
| kageja | Hi Guys, i am newbie yocto, i use yocto fido, i have variscite kit whis is VAR_STK_6_UL based on imx6 anybody know usefull package manager ? Anybody can answer me ?, | 15:53 |
| zeddii_home | rburton: yah. there is something racing in that area. I swear I’ve seen that as well. Looking at the Makefiles to remember where I was. | 15:53 |
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| zeddii_home | rburton: the truncated file is intereseting. something copying to work-shared while the build starts ? hmm. | 15:55 |
| rburton | zeddii_home: also its doing a lot of compilation in do_install. is that rebuilding or just not doing any building in compile? | 15:55 |
| rburton | zeddii_home: my guess would be one gcc has truncated the file to write to it whilst another is linking with it | 15:55 |
| rburton | there are two CC lines for that plugin | 15:55 |
| zeddii_home | if we serialize the build for perf, I wonder … | 15:56 |
| rburton | that's horrible! | 15:57 |
| zeddii_home | but yah, the building in the install phase should be minimal. but de-tangling the perf makefiles (with all the shared tools junk) is the trick. | 15:58 |
| rburton | zeddii_home: so it doesn't get lost i just filed #9182 | 15:58 |
| kageja | Hi Guys, i am newbie yocto, i use yocto fido, i have variscite kit whis is VAR_STK_6_UL based on imx6 anybody know usefull package manager ? Anybody can answer me ?, | 16:00 |
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| kageja | how can i install gcc on this board ? | 16:01 |
| rburton | kageja: depending on how they're using yocto you could have smart or opkg installed | 16:01 |
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| kageja | <rburton> No opkg was not installed | 16:03 |
| kageja | rburton: you know another package manager ? | 16:04 |
| rburton | as i said, smart | 16:04 |
| rburton | but you're asking for help on something that i've never used | 16:04 |
| rburton | variscite has a support forum, you might get better answers there | 16:05 |
| kageja | ohoo sorry i mean smart is smart technology which is anything, ok i try immediatley | 16:05 |
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| kergoth | hmm, is there a way to force the creation of startup.nsh also for non-iso, or will i need to override that function from the class? | 16:17 |
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| tlwoerner | kergoth: for minnow i just tweaked the mkefidisk.sh script to do it | 16:55 |
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| kergoth | tlwoerner: yeah, that's what we've been doing, just wanted to use wic instead, and ran into problems with it :) | 17:05 |
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| cpo_ | Hi folks, I used openembedded alot in the past and now going to switch to poky/yocto. I have question regarding "coding style". Is it legit to use generig %.bbappend files in an overlay layer instead of fixed version.bbappend files? | 17:10 |
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| CTtpollard | cpo_: it is common practice to wildcard | 17:11 |
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| CTtpollard | if you know you want to append something against a moving recipe | 17:11 |
| cpo_ | ok, so a submitted patch would be welcome? | 17:12 |
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| kageja | hi everyone, i am trieng install apache on yocto fido, and i take an error which is configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH | 17:41 |
| kageja | , How can i fix this? how can i install gcc, meanwhile my board is var_stk_6_ul based on imx 6 ultralite, its varissciye product | 17:41 |
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| CTtpollard | kageja: you're trying to install apache on a built system? | 17:42 |
| CTtpollard | kageja: also your system might have gcc, but not set in path | 17:43 |
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| kageja | CTtpollard: yes i think as you, how can i added gcc to $PATH | 17:45 |
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| CTtpollard | kageja: PATH=$PATH:./usr/bin/gcc ? | 17:46 |
| CTtpollard | it would be odd though | 17:48 |
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| kageja | CTtpollard: that isn't work, ls -la /usr/bin | grep gcc return nothiing, and i tried your code after then ./configure that isnt work | 17:52 |
| CTtpollard | kageja: that would suggest gcc isn't in that location, which would usually mean it's not on your system | 17:53 |
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| kageja | CTtpollard: okey, what must i do for installing gcc on my system | 17:55 |
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| CTtpollard | kageja: can you do "gcc --version" or "which gcc" ? | 17:55 |
| kageja | its return nothing | 17:56 |
| kageja | CTtpollard: its return nothing | 17:56 |
| CTtpollard | kageja: I would suggest rebuilding your system then to include gcc | 17:56 |
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| kageja | its so hard, there must be another way, as like installing gcc | 17:57 |
| kageja | CTtpollard: its so hard, there must be another way, as like installing gcc | 17:57 |
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| CTtpollard | kageja: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/gcc.html ? :) | 17:58 |
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| CTtpollard | kageja: I would suggest it is easier to rebuild your roots with gcc in it | 17:59 |
| CTtpollard | *rootfs | 17:59 |
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| kageja | CTtpollard: so many thanks for your helping, but i think its so hard, there must be another wat like as smart install gcc | 18:07 |
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| fray | hey anyone around a C/python module expert? | 19:45 |
| fray | RPM between 5.4.14 and 5.4.16 updated to a newer version of the upstream rpm-python module.. | 19:46 |
| fray | this appears to have broken the file listing capabilities, but I don't see the problem.. | 19:46 |
| fray | but I'm in no way an expert on how python/C interface works.. | 19:46 |
| fray | the sympom is that python is getting a list (which is correct), in the old way it has many items.. in the new version it only has 1 item in the index | 19:46 |
| fray | (the first item) | 19:47 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 19:52 |
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| seebs_ | Hey, RP, any updates on 9112? I have thoughts about further refactoring of pseudo's startup to improve diagnostics, but I'm also wondering whether we're getting anything else useful from existing logs, etc. | 20:17 |
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| RP | seebs: The only thing I have to add since we last talked is I bumped retries to 250 and we've not seen a 134 exit code since | 20:19 |
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| seebs | Huh. Interesting. | 20:20 |
| RP | seebs: didn't know what to test so that seemed like my only option. Nothing further ever came from the logs | 20:20 |
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| seebs | So there's a typo in the code, which is that there's an X+3 that's supposed to be (X*3). | 20:20 |
| * RP did wonder about that | 20:20 | |
| seebs | I've got a patch that adds some event logging, and in particular, I also added shutdown stats on database close time. | 20:20 |
| seebs | I was going to suggest a thing, though, which is (1) set retries somewhat lower, (2) add --disable-memory-db. | 20:21 |
| seebs | Because I *suspect* that what's biting us is the time for the database copy on shutdown. | 20:21 |
| seebs | I also suspect that the memory database is not buying as much performance-wise as I'd originally hoped, because my other pseudo optimization work suggests that I was massively overestimating the actual database access costs. | 20:22 |
| RP | seebs: I suspect you're probably right, however we just hit M3 feature freeze so my ability to run test builds to debug this just got a lot harder | 20:22 |
| RP | This is why I've been trying to hard to fix this for the past few weeks :/ | 20:23 |
| seebs | But what it looks like to me is that the problems we're seeing seem to only happen if the server spends an abnormally long time shutting down, and there's virtually nothing that happens after the socket is closed... except the pdb_backup in the close. | 20:23 |
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| seebs | Yeah. I had come up with this theory on the 24th, but I don't know whether you get pings on updates on the ticket. | 20:23 |
| seebs | I'm still trying to find a real-world reproducer I can actually hit on my hardware. | 20:24 |
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| seebs | Anyway, now I have an event logger that, in addition to its other features, has fancy-looking timestamps so I can see how long components of a thing are taking. | 20:25 |
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