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| Marex | hi | 01:40 |
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| Marex | looks like qemu-native in poky/master fails to build on debian | 01:41 |
| Marex | the problem this time around is that libcaca is missing some symbols from ncurses | 01:41 |
| Marex | is that known ? | 01:41 |
| bluelightning | Marex: hey! | 01:44 |
| bluelightning | not that I'd heard of... | 01:44 |
| bluelightning | libcaca causing problems eh, well... the issue is right there in the name ;) | 01:44 |
| Marex | bluelightning: morn'errr ... whatever time of day it is for you :) | 01:46 |
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| Marex | bluelightning: I will drill in shortly I guess | 01:46 |
| bluelightning | Marex: 2:45pm :D | 01:47 |
| Marex | hmmmm, the qemu is configured with --disable-curses already, so how the heck does the ncurses get in | 01:47 |
| Marex | riiight, 2.47am here | 01:47 |
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| Marex | bluelightning: interesting, disabling SDL support for qemu fixed my ncurses/caca problem | 01:58 |
| Marex | bluelightning: well, that'd imply the ncurses/caca stuff is pulled in via SDL | 01:59 |
| bluelightning | hmm... didn't know SDL had anything to do with ncurses | 02:00 |
| Marex | either it does OR there's some other problem | 02:01 |
| Marex | could it be using system's libsdl ? | 02:01 |
| Marex | bluelightning: it seems to be coming from my system's libsdl indeed | 02:07 |
| bluelightning | right, we do attempt to link to that, otherwise we had problems with different libGL providers | 02:08 |
| Marex | bluelightning: http://www.bfuser.eu/link.txt | 02:09 |
| Marex | bluelightning: that's the failing bit | 02:09 |
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| Marex | bluelightning: I added the -Wl,--trace to see what libs are pulled in | 02:09 |
| Marex | apparently, aside from the libsdl, no others are pulled in | 02:09 |
| Marex | bluelightning: so I guess ... libsdl uses libcaca which uses libncurses | 02:10 |
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| amboar | hi | 03:54 |
| amboar | is there an easy way to extend the machines supported by the runqemu script? | 03:54 |
| amboar | short of patching it (and runqemu-internal)? | 03:54 |
| amboar | I've gone the patching route, but was wondering if I'd missed something | 03:54 |
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| vickylinuxer | Hi yocto, the splitted packages should be into RFS by default if it is not dbg / dev / locale. | 05:24 |
| vickylinuxer | Am i right? | 05:24 |
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| AndroUser | Hi.. | 05:29 |
| AndroUser | How to include the splitted package into rootfs? | 05:35 |
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| vickylinuxer | Hi Yocto, How to include the splitted packages into Rootfs by default? | 05:39 |
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| Anticom | Hi all. Could someone elaborate the actual purpose of distros in yocto? I suppose in the end it's about seperation of concerns and usability and stuff. But what does a distro typically provide in yocto? | 10:02 |
| boucman_work | Anticom: a distro is where you define "everything-wide" features of your project | 10:03 |
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| boucman_work | do you use systemd or systemV, do you support USB ? what sound system do you use ? these are typically the kind of decision ubuntu or debian make, but they don't change if you are using kubuntu vs xubuntu or x86 vs arm | 10:04 |
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| LetoThe2nd | distro is the third axis in the orthogonal space image<->machine<->distro | 10:04 |
| Anticom | Well currently we're doing everything in our layer by modifying stuff poky already provides. I've suggested to switch to a custom distro and now i'm curious what i actually have to do | 10:04 |
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| rburton | give your distro a name, copy the poky.conf to mydistroname.conf | 10:04 |
| rburton | done! | 10:04 |
| Anticom | I'm currently reading 5.11 in the manual | 10:04 |
| boucman_work | the "problem" I usually encounter is that poky is good enough for 90% of usages, so we tend to use it a lot and customize at the image level... | 10:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | yeah, a common practise is to just grab poky or something inheriting from it, and then beat it into shape successively. | 10:05 |
| Anticom | rburton: i can't even find poky.conf ._. isn't it supposed to be in meta/conf/distro? | 10:05 |
| boucman_work | but yeah, even when we do custom distro, we end up copying poky and starting from there... | 10:05 |
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| LetoThe2nd | but doing that in your own, inheriting distro make it easier to forward-port | 10:06 |
| Anticom | boucman_work: that's my plan | 10:06 |
| Anticom | boucman_work: and "being just good enough" shouldn't stop you from improving your code base by making it cleaner ;) | 10:07 |
| Anticom | it'll pay off some time in the future | 10:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | the important point is the orthogonality. make the machine.conf set stuff that is hardware specific. make the image pull in stuff that the specific software project needs. make the distro set the general software platform "architecture" | 10:07 |
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| Anticom | LetoThe2nd: for example currently i'm removing stuff from DISTRO_FEATURES in our image which is provided by DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULT | 10:09 |
| Anticom | And i don't think that this is how things should be | 10:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | Anticom: well you can always setup everthing from scratch. and OE itself should support a distroless build too. | 10:11 |
| Anticom | LetoThe2nd: My idea was to copy poky.conf in it's own layer, rename it and start hacking it | 10:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | thats a common technique | 10:14 |
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| rburton | Anticom: poky is in meta-yocto (or meta-poky if you're tracking master, we finally renamed it) | 10:17 |
| Anticom | rburton: found it in meta-yocto :) | 10:17 |
| Anticom | but thanks | 10:17 |
| rburton | poky the distro actually does very little | 10:17 |
| Anticom | I don't need it to do much. Someone told me the other day that setting update channels for example is a things the distro should be responsible for | 10:21 |
| Anticom | which makes perfect sense to me | 10:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok, now its time for you to leave. | 10:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | once things tart to make sense, yo're wrong here! ;-( | 10:22 |
| Anticom | why? | 10:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | *SCNR* | 10:22 |
| Anticom | what's wrong about reflecting what someone told me and comming to a conclusion that he or she might be right which what he or she said? | 10:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | sorry, that was a joke. nevermind. | 10:25 |
| Anticom | pff nah, now i'm leaving ; | 10:25 |
| Anticom | ;)* | 10:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | just like "EDV -> Ende Der Vernunft" | 10:25 |
| Anticom | LetoThe2nd: i forgett that you're speaking german way too often... | 10:25 |
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| Anticom | quick question: Is it normal to get a bunch of "NOTE: Stamp xyz is not reachable, removing related manifests" when switching the distro? | 10:26 |
| rburton | yes | 10:26 |
| rburton | it will need to rebuild a fairly good chunk of stuff if the distro config changes | 10:27 |
| rburton | (even if thats just the name) | 10:27 |
| Anticom | rburton: i don't mind. More time to drink coffee http://img1.joyreactor.com/pics/post/auto-9gag-1701645.jpeg | 10:28 |
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| Anticom | LetoThe2nd: Also i was wondering, how "architecture" was fitting in that orthogonal construct? i guess it's part of 'machine'? But how do both differ? | 10:33 |
| boucman_work | is there anything that DOESN'T need to be rebuilt when switching distro ? | 10:33 |
| Anticom | boucman_work: BB started with recipe #160 | 10:34 |
| Anticom | So i guess there is a very small ammount, that doesn't need to be rebuild | 10:34 |
| boucman_work | mkay | 10:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | Anticom: ach is part of the machine. for example both imx6 and omap4 are arm A9, but not the same machine - usually | 10:34 |
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| Anticom | LetoThe2nd: so TL;DR; arch is the bare cpu and machine all the gpio stuff that's build arround it? | 10:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | Anticom: simplified, yes. | 10:35 |
| Anticom | hm now i really have to leave :( | 10:35 |
| Anticom | no more questions to ask... | 10:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | hehe | 10:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | have a cookie, then. | 10:36 |
| Anticom | 1up | 10:36 |
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| boucman_work | rburton: yesterday you mentionned a script you use to build poky.git from various other git... is the manifest you use available somewhere (mainnly out of curiosity) | 10:44 |
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| boucman_work | ? | 10:44 |
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| rburton | boucman_work: i think the actual config file isn't in git | 10:52 |
| boucman_work | ok... that would be usefull to have... at least to know what is actually contained in git.poky | 10:53 |
| rburton | bitbake + oe-core + meta-yocto + yocto-docs | 10:53 |
| boucman_work | yeah, but renamed... thus confusion | 10:53 |
| rburton | what's renamed? | 10:53 |
| boucman_work | (and it's meta-poky now :P ) | 10:54 |
| rburton | the *repo* is meta-yocto | 10:54 |
| boucman_work | right | 10:54 |
| rburton | i was listing repos | 10:54 |
| boucman_work | my bad | 10:55 |
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| Anticom | Concerning RCONFLICTS, RDEPENDS, RRECOMMENDS and RREPLACES: I know i can supply some version information. However is it possible to limit the version in both directions? like (>= v2.0 && < v3.0) | 11:08 |
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| aratiu | does anyone know how I can specify a file with whitespace in its name in LIC_FILES_CHKSUM? | 11:35 |
| Anticom | aratiu: why would you do that? | 11:37 |
| aratiu | LIC_FILES_CHKSUM = "file://../PT Free Font License_eng_.txt;md5=(...)" | 11:37 |
| aratiu | the original file has spaces in its name... | 11:38 |
| Anticom | aratiu: well if you don't want to rename the license file try "file://../PT\ Free\ Font\ License_eng_.txt;md5=(...)" | 11:38 |
| Anticom | dunno whether that works or not | 11:38 |
| Anticom | but that's how linux typically handles whitespaces afaik | 11:39 |
| rburton | depending how much of URI parsing that line goes though, %20 instead of space might work | 11:39 |
| Anticom | I'm not an expert in licensing stuff but does it actually matter, what the file name of the file containing the license is? | 11:39 |
| Anticom | i suppose important is the content not the actual file name | 11:39 |
| Anticom | i'd probably just rename the damn thing ;) | 11:40 |
| rburton | that would mean renaming a file in an upstream tarball right? | 11:40 |
| Anticom | rburton: or patching it during build | 11:40 |
| rburton | %20 should work | 11:40 |
| aratiu | tried escaping but bitbake gives expansion errors, and with %20 it tries to search literally the file with %20 in filename | 11:40 |
| rburton | hm | 11:41 |
| Anticom | aratiu: have you tried my suggestion? | 11:41 |
| aratiu | ah sorry %20 works :D | 11:41 |
| Anticom | lol | 11:41 |
| aratiu | thank you very much! | 11:41 |
| rburton | remember its a uri so usual uri rules apply | 11:41 |
| Anticom | rburton: 1 - Anticom: 0 | 11:41 |
| Anticom | :( | 11:41 |
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| igor3 | hi | 13:57 |
| igor3 | someone can help me with a problem? | 13:58 |
| rburton | ask away, don't ask to ask | 13:58 |
| igor3 | ok | 13:58 |
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| igor3 | I made a recipe that rprovides, rconflicts and rreplaces initscripts | 13:59 |
| igor3 | then I put on my layer.conf the PREFERRED_PROVIDER_initscripts = "initscripts" | 13:59 |
| igor3 | So I installed my package that rreplaces the initscripts on my image | 14:00 |
| igor3 | but there is another image that I did not installed this package, but this image is installing my recipe instead initscripts | 14:01 |
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| igor3 | I ran bitbake -g and the second image does not depends on my package | 14:02 |
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| boucman_work | igor3: layer.conf influences all recipes that include that layer. you probably don't want to add PREFERRED_PROVIDER there | 14:04 |
| igor3 | I tryied to see the -DDD -v logs, but I did not see anything that would make it happens | 14:04 |
| boucman_work | you should either add it in your image's recipe or add a condition on your image name for that variable | 14:04 |
| boucman_work | you can try bitbake -e <the image that bugs> into a pager to see where the variable PREFERRED_PROVIDER is manipulated | 14:05 |
| igor3 | but I want everybody to use the preferred_provider unless my image | 14:05 |
| igor3 | hummm | 14:05 |
| igor3 | nice | 14:05 |
| boucman_work | i'm not 100% sure what you want to do... | 14:06 |
| igor3 | let me try to explain | 14:06 |
| igor3 | I have a layer that produces 3 images | 14:06 |
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| igor3 | I want to change the initscripts only for one image | 14:07 |
| igor3 | but all images are using the changed initscripts instead default initscripts | 14:07 |
| igor3 | I made the samething with base-files | 14:08 |
| igor3 | and it worked | 14:08 |
| igor3 | but with initscripts it is not working | 14:08 |
| boucman_work | well, I would put the PREFERRED_PR in the image that needs it then... | 14:08 |
| igor3 | humm... | 14:09 |
| igor3 | intersting | 14:09 |
| boucman_work | i'm not sure about base-files, though, i'd have to look at the specifics... | 14:09 |
| igor3 | I did not know about that | 14:09 |
| boucman_work | another method would be to set PREFERED_PROVIDER_initscripts_pn-<the image that needs it> = "your recipe" in your layer.conf | 14:10 |
| boucman_work | but since the change is logically part of the image, putting it in the image makes more sense | 14:10 |
| igor3 | I made a recipe called something-base-files.bb that RREPLACES, RPROVIDES and RCONFLICTS with base-files, then I put on my layer.conf that the preferred_pr is base-files, so I installed something-base-files on my image. | 14:10 |
| igor3 | That tip is nice | 14:10 |
| igor3 | I will try that | 14:10 |
| igor3 | thank you very much sir | 14:11 |
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| rburton | JaMa: your grub docs bug is a good one - i can replicate outside of oe which makes me wonder how it builds for me in oe… | 14:26 |
| rburton | the fix is trivial though | 14:26 |
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| JaMa | rburton: cool that someone likes bugs reported by me | 15:22 |
| rburton | haha | 15:26 |
| rburton | usually yours are a pain ;) | 15:27 |
| JaMa | and more to come as nobody seems to read the world/dependencies reports on ML | 15:28 |
| rburton | i do skim it to see if anything in oe-core is breaking unexpectedly | 15:29 |
| rburton | do you know why your builds hit that? as i said, the tarballs ship the generated documentation | 15:29 |
| JaMa | no | 15:31 |
| JaMa | and builders are already running another builds so I cannot check log.do_configure in wiped out tmpfsi | 15:32 |
| JaMa | or re-run it | 15:32 |
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| kergoth | i skim the world builds too, just have too much crap on my todo already to take on anything else. i have fond memories of when i had enough spare time to fix random issues with recipes i don't use.. | 16:00 |
| kergoth | heh | 16:00 |
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| rburton | JaMa: getting a bit confused with the comments on 9201, are you saying that bill's patch should replace yours? | 16:31 |
| rburton | if not, can you re-test with bills patch? | 16:31 |
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| JaMa | rburton: I was saying that I've already tried that and for whatever reason it didn't work for me | 17:05 |
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| JaMa | rburton: but if it works for Bill then feel free to merge it | 17:07 |
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| bottazzini | There is a flag in my CFLAGS that I'd like to exclude, is it possible ? | 17:45 |
| Ulfalizer | CFLAGS_remove = "--option" | 17:45 |
| Ulfalizer | might be cleaner ways to handle it depending on the circumstances though | 17:46 |
| bottazzini | Ulfalizer, thanks I was looking everywhere for this info | 17:46 |
| Ulfalizer | _remove should be documented in the bitbake manual | 17:47 |
| bottazzini | Ulfalizer, Yes it contains i just looked for wrong keywords | 17:51 |
| Ulfalizer | ok, np :) | 17:51 |
| bottazzini | ;) | 17:51 |
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| otavio | rburton: I sent an U-Boot bump, for last release. Could you please queue it for MUT? | 18:40 |
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| riz__ | I am doing a build with meta-qt5 and I keep getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/YsgSuLnc | 18:55 |
| riz__ | I am having trouble finding a fix | 18:55 |
| riz__ | Any ideas on what might need to be done? | 18:55 |
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| kergoth | Hmm, it'd be nice if we had a -S dumpsig, as a convenience. possibly only if a task is provided, and only for that task, not its deps, but still | 23:58 |
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