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Xz | hi, anybody here? | 02:39 |
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Xz | I have this weird problem where I added a patch to my linux-yocto recipe | 02:42 |
Xz | and it seems to pick it up (I can see in log.do_patch) | 02:42 |
Xz | but then when I open .c file it's not changed | 02:42 |
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Xz | is there any chance Yocto would patch, build and delete patched file? | 02:42 |
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bluelightning | Xz: can't see how that would happen... | 02:50 |
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Xz | hi there, I'm pulling my hair with linux-yocto recipe | 03:58 |
Xz | I simply extended already existing .bbappend by adding a patch file. I know Yocto picks up the file because I tried to break it (both, file path and patch file contents). | 03:59 |
Xz | however after build is finished I searched whole Yocto dir for my .c file and there are only 2 occurences | 03:59 |
Xz | and both are unmodified | 03:59 |
Xz | so weird | 03:59 |
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bluelightning | Xz: any way you can send this to me so I can try to reproduce it? | 04:38 |
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Xz | Xz: yeah | 04:44 |
Xz | bluelightning: yeah, that's easy | 04:45 |
Xz | bluelightning: it's literally one patch and one layer | 04:45 |
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mckoan | good morning | 07:22 |
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Xz | guys, how am I supposed to use 'yocto-kernel' script? it wants me to specify BSP | 07:26 |
Xz | I tried specyfing MACHINE and path to my bsp layer and many different configurations | 07:26 |
Xz | cannot get it to work | 07:26 |
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LeifSo | Hi | 07:48 |
LeifSo | how do I tell toaster to accept repositories it apparently knows (e.g. meta-openembedded/*), but does not list them and denies to add them? | 07:49 |
LeifSo | I get "layer-exists-but-with-different-url" errors on the console log | 07:49 |
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LeifSo | or to reword it: toaster refuses to add repositories, showing no error message in the web ui. It only logs to the console that the repository exists, but it is nowhere listed | 07:54 |
joshuagl | give the layer a different name? i.e. instead of meta-foo meta-foo1 ? | 07:57 |
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Xz | I'm still fighting, looks like I have to use 'yocto-kernel' python script, except it breaks on my layer :o | 08:06 |
Xz | adding patches to kernel was easier back then | 08:06 |
Xz | SRC_URI was enough, right now it's not! | 08:06 |
Xz | would appreciate any yocto-kernel specialist | 08:07 |
Xz | there is a file in poky, ./scripts/lib/bsp/substrate/target/arch/x86_64/recipes-kernel/linux/files/machine-user-patches.scc | 08:08 |
Xz | that should contain kernel patches in right order | 08:08 |
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Xz | looks like easier than adding a patch is to spin a new repo on github, patch it and feed that to Yocto... | 08:23 |
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LeifSo | I guess the problem is that toaster's web-ui does not show 'remote' layers, if 'local poky' was selected at the beginning, but matches them when one tries to import layers | 08:44 |
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joshuagl | that seems likely, I wonder if we're tracking that in bugzilla | 08:56 |
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joshuagl | quite a few seeming related issues are filed; https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=toaster%20layer%20local&list_id=579624 | 09:14 |
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cyball | Hey, I have a question to bitbake, I've built my first distro with yocto and I want to replace my actual build server with a yocto version but i forgot for whatever reasons to install all required python modules ... can I install them with easy_install or pip? | 09:30 |
cyball | is there a command which i can use to install all python modules required to run bitbake? | 09:31 |
cyball | for now I installed some manually but i still get an error: no module named future_builtins | 09:32 |
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cyball | by the way i installed future already but i still get the error | 09:34 |
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present | Hi guys! | 10:36 |
present | You gave me tips about the customization of the psplash recently. :) For the getenv(fbdev) and the colours with the cppflags. | 10:37 |
present | You told me that we can't use the FBENV variable... | 10:37 |
present | I'm on my way to add an option like the rotation one. | 10:37 |
present | Should I remove the getenv(FBENV) as you told me it was useless? | 10:37 |
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present | rburton, you might know this one. :) | 10:40 |
present | Or Richard Leitner as he was the last commiter. | 10:40 |
rburton | present: its not useless, its just not trivial to configure | 10:41 |
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present | rburton, the rotation way should work right? | 10:46 |
rburton | literally haven't looked at the psplash source for about a decade | 10:48 |
present | getenv(FBDEV) :) | 10:48 |
present | This is just that. | 10:48 |
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present | Anyway this is just one line. I'll use is if the command line fbdev parameter is not given. | 10:50 |
present | *it | 10:50 |
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cyball | rburton: is there a command which i can use to install all required python dependencies to run bitbake? | 10:53 |
rburton | cyball: bitbake just needs python | 10:55 |
cyball | rburton: well that was my thougts also but in fact id does need much more ... I figured out how to boot the image I've created yesterday, now i just installed it on my build server and tried to run bitbake on it | 10:56 |
cyball | rburton: with the result the i got a lot of named modules not found messages | 10:57 |
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rburton | cyball: such as | 10:57 |
cyball | then i installed as much as i could but it does still show me the future_builtins import error | 10:57 |
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cyball | I had to install multiprocessing, micropython_pty, tty, argparse, pysqlite, ... | 10:58 |
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rburton | taking the first one, multiprocessing, that's part of the core python library | 10:59 |
rburton | so just install the whole python runtime | 11:00 |
cyball | http://pastebin.com/ZL6pVdqK | 11:00 |
cyball | rburton: python was already preinstalled version 2.7.11 | 11:00 |
rburton | clearly not if you had to install multiprocessing | 11:00 |
rburton | dpkg -S /usr/lib/python2.7/multiprocessing/__init__.py | 11:01 |
rburton | libpython2.7-stdlib:amd64: /usr/lib/python2.7/multiprocessing/__init__.py | 11:01 |
cyball | but the python command it self was availabe | 11:01 |
rburton | what distro? | 11:02 |
cyball | it was the core-image-minimal :) | 11:02 |
rburton | (debian and ubuntu split python to into a proper and minimal, maybe you've got the minimal one installed, which is only for the installer really) | 11:02 |
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rburton | oh, you're trying to use bitbake inside an oe image | 11:02 |
rburton | install python-modules | 11:02 |
cyball | yes | 11:02 |
cyball | ok ... but can I can not for now because I installed it already on my hdd so i need to get it running for now :) | 11:03 |
cyball | because this is my build machine :) | 11:03 |
rburton | rebuild the image, adding python-modules to the image | 11:04 |
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rburton | and all the other build dependencies for bitbake whilst you're at it, see the docs for the list | 11:04 |
cyball | is that in the bitbake docs? | 11:04 |
rburton | iirc packagegroup-self-hosted is the package group for all of the build dependencies of OE | 11:05 |
cyball | ok thx :) | 11:05 |
rburton | no, yocto docs, as i presume you want to do more than just run bitbake | 11:05 |
cyball | yes ... that's true ... ok i will give it a try thx for the help | 11:06 |
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cyball | does anybody know if I want to use packagegroup-self-hosted if i can just skip the libgl stuff? or do i really need it? | 12:27 |
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jku | cyball: if you wont be doing anything with graphics, you can drop the whole packagegroup-self-hosted-graphics | 12:33 |
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cyball | jku: how can i do that? | 12:36 |
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jku | cyball one way is that instead of adding packagegroup-self-hosted to your image you add the packages it depends on (except -graphics): "packagegroup-self-hosted-debug packagegroup-self-hosted-sdk packagegroup-self-hosted-extended packagegroup-self-hosted-host-tools" | 12:40 |
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cyball | jku: ok, thx for that :-) | 12:41 |
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cyball | jku: i still get the error of missing chain libgl even without packagegroup-self-hosted-graphics | 12:48 |
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snouto | Hello everyone , i have built core-image-minimal successfully , i wanted to add an ssh-server-dropbear into the image using EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES =" ssh-server-dropbear" | 12:49 |
snouto | when i have added this feature "ssh-server-dropbear" , i can no longer login to the core-image-minimal using root and empty password | 12:49 |
snouto | any body knows what dropbear did to the root credentials ? | 12:49 |
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jku | cyball: and you are not adding packagegroup-self-hosted to the image anymore? | 12:52 |
cyball | jku: no but i have added at dev-pkgs in IMAGE_FEATURES does that makes sense? | 12:52 |
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jku | shouldn't hurt but shouldn't be needed for self-hosting yocto either | 12:55 |
cyball | jku: http://pastebin.com/pUh4tF5V | 12:55 |
cyball | jku: i guess it is easier if you can see the image content :) | 12:56 |
cyball | jku: http://pastebin.com/tAdDtSbC | 12:59 |
cyball | the last paste is the error message | 12:59 |
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snouto | Hello everyone , when i start the core-image-minimal , at the login prompt , there is poky (Yocto project reference) 2.1 , how can i change these sentences | 13:10 |
jku | cyball: it's saying packagegroup-self-hosted-debug depends on libgl. I have no idea how that could happen | 13:11 |
snouto | i want to make them something different | 13:11 |
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snouto | jku: could you please help me ? | 13:12 |
cyball | snouto: you need a conf/distro/xxx.conf file in your layer | 13:12 |
snouto | what is xxx standing for ? | 13:12 |
cyball | snouto: you can choose what you want | 13:13 |
cyball | snouto: there are different DISTRO variables you can set there | 13:13 |
snouto | where can i find an example ? | 13:13 |
snouto | is there any example in poky for distro ? | 13:13 |
jku | snouto: see meta-poky/conf/distro/poky.conf | 13:14 |
cyball | snouto: just have a look into meta-poky/conf/distro/poky.conf | 13:14 |
cyball | jku: i will try to just re initialize the build folder ... I'm curious if it could be the cache | 13:15 |
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cyball | jku: ok i still get the error ... so i guess packagegroup-self-hosted-debug really needs libgl | 13:17 |
jku | it's just a little hard to believe. You haven't modified packagegroup-self-hosted.bb right? | 13:19 |
snouto | jku: how can i make bitbake feels these changes , since when i run bitbake core-image-minimal , it did not compiled anything ? | 13:19 |
cyball | jku: no i didn't | 13:20 |
snouto | cyball: how can i make bitbake feels these changes , since when i run bitbake core-image-minimal , it did not compiled anything ? | 13:20 |
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cyball | snouto: you can do that by cleaning the image cache like: bitbake -c cleansstate core-image-minimal but I'm not sure if you really need that or if it is enough to just clean the rootfs | 13:24 |
hairyheron | Hi. I hope I can find some advice here... I am trying to get started with Yocto and followed the setup instructions on a Ubuntu 14.04 host with poky krogoth (host gcc version is 4.8.4). But building core-image-minimal fails at the gcc-runtime_5.3 recipe in do_compile with the error "compatibility-c++0x.cc:215: undefined reference to `__dso_handle'". Does somebody know what is going wrong here? Unfortunately I have no clue at all h | 13:25 |
cyball | jku: if i remove the packagegroup-self-hosted-debug it still requires libgl and that is true for all packagegroup-self-hosted-* packagegroups | 13:25 |
cyball | jku: if i remove them all then it works but that is not what i wanted :) | 13:25 |
cyball | jku: so i guess the packagegroup-self-hosted bb file somehow has this requirement probably through the REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES = "x11" | 13:26 |
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cyball | hairyheron: have you run the cmd: sudo apt-get install gawk wget git-core diffstat unzip texinfo gcc-multilib build-essential chrpath socat libsdl1.2-dev xterm ??? | 13:28 |
jku | cyball: that's not really how it works | 13:28 |
cyball | jku: ok, but it does not work for whatever reasons :) | 13:29 |
hairyheron | cyball: Yes, no problems there. When I run it again, it says everything is already the latest version. | 13:29 |
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cyball | hairyheron: have you tried to do a apt-get update,upgrade,dist-upgrade ? | 13:32 |
hairyheron | cyball: Yes, and I did in fact receive an update to gcc-4.8 this morning, but it had no visible effect (I started a fresh compilation afterwards). So my system is up to date | 13:35 |
cyball | hairyheron: well this is probably a really dump question but have you tried to turn it off and on again? after the update? | 13:36 |
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hairyheron | cyball: :D Hm, no. Okay... why not - let me do so now | 13:38 |
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snouto | cyball: it didn't work | 13:38 |
snouto | jku,cyball: it didn't work after clearing cleansstate and core-image-minimal then bitbaking it again | 13:39 |
snouto | nothing happened , still , Poky ...etc | 13:39 |
snouto | i have added distro inside conf folder with a poky.conf inside | 13:39 |
cyball | snouto: well, then you can try to build it again ... I can remember that i had a similar issue but after a full rebuild it worked | 13:39 |
snouto | cyball: do i have to configure anything else before this step ? | 13:40 |
snouto | like adding a reference to the newly created folder "distro" anywhere | 13:40 |
snouto | or just removing tmp and sstate-cache | 13:40 |
snouto | then rebuilding everything again | 13:40 |
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cyball | snouto: well, it is probably a good idea to just think whatever you want to do so if you plan to run network etc. it is probably not a bad idea to install resolveconf also | 13:41 |
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snouto | what is resolveconf ? | 13:41 |
snouto | cyball: what is resolveconf ? | 13:41 |
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cyball | snouto: ohh sorry i mean resolvconf | 13:41 |
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snouto | cyball: yes , what is it and what does it do ? | 13:41 |
cyball | snouto: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/plain/meta/recipes-connectivity/resolvconf/resolvconf_1.48.bb?h=bernard | 13:42 |
hairyheron | cyball: Still the same, unfortunately | 13:42 |
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cyball | hairyheron: that sounds not so good ... last time a red something about similar it was a gcc bug related to static linking problems i guess it would take a while to figure out why that happend to your system ... is the 10.04 your workstation or a build system only? | 13:44 |
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cyball | hairyheron: you may need to upgrade to 16.04 or run a slower virtual instance as a quick fix | 13:45 |
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hairyheron | It is my workstation. Alright... at least I apparently don't do anything completely wrong | 13:46 |
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cyball | hairyheron: no i guess it is related to your installation | 13:48 |
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hairyheron | cyball: Ok, no good news, but thank you very much for your support and your time - now at least I know what to do :) | 13:53 |
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boucman_work | are there any (long term) plans to separate the concept of "image" from the concept of "rootfs" ? | 14:12 |
boucman_work | I find myself having to generate weird stuff for time to time where that concept would help | 14:12 |
boucman_work | like : a USB bootable image that contain the fs to install on the NAND | 14:12 |
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alephan | Hi guys! | 14:18 |
alephan | I have a IMAGE_CMD_* function which is a sh function | 14:19 |
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alephan | I want to run inside a function that is python and is provided by a bbclass. | 14:19 |
present | snouto, https://wiki.archlinux.fr/Resolv.conf | 14:19 |
alephan | Any idea how? | 14:19 |
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boucman_work | alephan: I'm not sure (you should read the bitbake doc to be 100% sure) but ${@<python stuff>} might work | 14:26 |
boucman_work | though the python code will be run at parse time, not when the CMD is run | 14:26 |
alephan | Exactly | 14:27 |
alephan | That is only for variable assignment | 14:27 |
alephan | So it won't work for what I need | 14:27 |
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tjamison | alephan: can you do $(function_name)_append? Similar to do_install_append? | 14:28 |
alephan | I don't think I understand @tjamison | 14:29 |
alephan | how would that work? | 14:29 |
rburton | tjamison: no | 14:30 |
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tjamison | there's the do_install_append() function where you can add additional steps to the install process -- not sure if there are other analogous append() functions or which function you're looking to run inside of | 14:32 |
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alephan | tjamison: Indeed. I am aware of that. What I'm asking is how to run in a sh task a python function? | 14:34 |
alephan | Or more generic, in a sh function a python function. | 14:34 |
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tjamison | ah, apologies, I think I missed part of the question | 14:35 |
alephan | It's fine. thanks. | 14:36 |
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bengardiner | Hi all, I think I've found some weirdness with the gcc-cross built for wandboard using the meta-fsl-community layer. Maybe it's normal though? I was getting a failure to compile when pthreads.h couldn't be included. This was happening when trying to do the compile phase of a Cmake recipe in the case where the gcc-cross came from sstate populated by a build on another machine. | 14:38 |
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bengardiner | I did -v on the compiler invocation to investigate and found that all the sysroot searches for the include were using the full path from the system that populated gcc-cross sstate, using its full paths not the path under workdir on this system. That's why pthread.h couldn't be found even though it was there. | 14:39 |
bengardiner | I am using a PRSERVER for all systems populating the sstate cache | 14:40 |
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kergoth | sounds like you forgot to pass --sysroot=, as we do in our CC variable | 14:40 |
rburton | also note that current oe sets the default sysroot to a path that doesn't exist, so you can't accidently break it like that now | 14:43 |
rburton | (at least i hope you're not using 2.1) | 14:43 |
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kergoth | yeah, i was wondering about that too, must be using an old release | 14:43 |
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bengardiner_ | sorry, webchat. | 15:01 |
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bengardiner_ | hi kergoth: and rburton: yeah I'm stuck on daisy in fact | 15:01 |
rburton | yeah that explains it | 15:02 |
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bengardiner_ | kergoth: you say "forgot to pass --sysroot=" . You're thinking that the Cmake-based recipe could be updated? | 15:02 |
rburton | depends how you're passing CC | 15:03 |
bengardiner_ | :) yeah, I know... my hands are tied though. | 15:03 |
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rburton | daisy's bitbake.conf has TOOLCHAIN_OPTIONS = " --sysroot=${STAGING_DIR_TARGET}" | 15:04 |
rburton | export CC = "${CCACHE}${HOST_PREFIX}gcc ${HOST_CC_ARCH}${TOOLCHAIN_OPTIONS}" | 15:04 |
bengardiner_ | thanks . I can ensure that CC is getting passed like that. | 15:04 |
rburton | but cmake is special/stupid and you have to pass flags separate from compiler | 15:04 |
rburton | but if your recipe inherit cmake then it should just work | 15:04 |
rburton | as that sets CMAKE_C_FLAGS correctly | 15:05 |
rburton | of course, the thing your build could promptly go and override that, had to fix a recipe that did that only last week | 15:05 |
bengardiner_ | I'll go check and confirm here | 15:05 |
bengardiner_ | so it sounds like it is a known daisy issue that the gcc-cross are built with the build system's full paths in its specs then? | 15:05 |
rburton | (ie the CMakeLists could set CMAKE_C_FLAGS directly) | 15:05 |
rburton | yeah post-daisy - can't recall when - we explicitly build the compiler with a sysroot like /this/path/does/not/exist so you *need* to pass the sysroot | 15:06 |
rburton | instead of it working assuming the path is the same as when it was built | 15:06 |
bengardiner_ | neat -- cool idea | 15:06 |
bengardiner_ | I tried a workarond here that was not such a great idea :) I added -I${TARGET_STAGING_DIR}/usr/include to TARGET_CFLAGS (except gcc-cross) | 15:07 |
bengardiner_ | the result was 100% sstate cache miss on any system with a different build absolute path :) | 15:07 |
boucman_work | I'm trying to understand how images are generated... I think I understand IMAGE_CLASSES IMAGE_TYPES and IMAGE_FSTYPES but I have one last question I can't find clearly in the documentation.. | 15:08 |
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boucman_work | who is supposed to set IMAGE_FSTYPES ? is that a machine thing ? an image thing ? or is that something for me to choose ? | 15:09 |
bengardiner_ | rburton: actually, how does the later releases avoid that issue? if --sysroot= is passed and the dir is different on different machines doesn't that cause cache miss? | 15:09 |
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boucman_work | because an image type contains stuff like "how to install u-boot" which should clearly be part of a machine description | 15:09 |
rburton | bengardiner_: no, the path to the sysroot is exempt from the hashes and hard-coded paths are generally worked around or editted out | 15:09 |
bengardiner_ | brilliant | 15:10 |
boucman_work | but a fstype is also decisions like "I want a /data partition that is 4Gb and is mounted read-write" which I could see going at the distro level or at the image level, depending on the use-case | 15:10 |
rburton | bengardiner_: you can verify/test that by just doing . oe-init-build-env foo ; bitbake core-image-sato ; . oe-init-build-env bar ; bitbake core-image-sato; and check that the second build is entirely sstate based | 15:11 |
boucman_work | wic is interesting in that in looks for a file named <machine-type>-<image-type>.wks so it kinda agrees with my understanding | 15:11 |
bengardiner_ | rburton: definitely, and sstate hit rate to date proves that this is the case. Thanks for making that clearer for me | 15:12 |
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snouto | cyball : do you know how can i package my custom core-image-minimal as .iso file to install it on vmware ? | 15:18 |
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snouto | rburton: nice to see you again my friend | 15:20 |
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cyball | snouto: have a look at: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/recipes-core/images/build-appliance-image_14.0.0.bb?h=krogoth | 15:21 |
snouto | rburton: core-image-minimal , turned out to include time limitation , the kernel will boot after 10 days , how can i get rid of this , when i go to yoctoproject.org/tlk , it tells me to read the documentation to know how to create get rid of this | 15:21 |
cyball | snouto: especially at the line MAGE_FSTYPES = "vmdk" | 15:21 |
cyball | snouto: you can generate a vmdk means vmware image :) | 15:22 |
snouto | yes | 15:22 |
snouto | cyball: thank you for this | 15:22 |
snouto | cyball: can you please tell me how can i get rid of this time limitation in core-image-minimal | 15:24 |
cyball | snouto: which time limitation do yo mean? | 15:25 |
snouto | cyball: core-image-minimal has time limitation , they say that the kernel will run for 10 days after that it will reboot | 15:25 |
snouto | cyball: http://www.yoctoproject.org/tlk | 15:25 |
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cyball | snouto: i think that is ment to be valid for the intel specific embedded boards | 15:28 |
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snouto | cyball: i am not using intel BSP layers altogether , but when i boot core-image-minimal in qemu , it shows me this banner "this image has time limitation , please refer to the website www.yoctoproject.org/tlk to get rid of this time limitation , never use this image in a product" | 15:29 |
kergoth | if you'd actually read the page it links to, you'd realize it was the kernel that was time limited, not hte image, the fact that you're booting core-image-minimal is irrelevent | 15:31 |
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snouto | kergoth: can you explain a little more | 15:32 |
snouto | kergoth: i am new comer to openembedded and yocto , what do you mean by this ? | 15:32 |
kergoth | if you don't know what a kernel is, i'd advise reading some intro material on linux | 15:33 |
rburton | snouto: build your own image, that's a demo image. | 15:34 |
snouto | kergoth: i knew what is a kernel , of course , i knew , why are you so ironic | 15:34 |
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rburton | snouto: if you did built your own image then remove the meta-tlk layer, and the question is where does it say to add that layer so we can fix whatever says to do that | 15:34 |
snouto | rburton : thank you , i will do that , i will remove meta-tlk layer from bblayers | 15:35 |
snouto | i just have added it there because i had to use psplash | 15:35 |
snouto | let me try modifying that and get back to you | 15:36 |
LeifSo | I get a taskhash mismatch -.- What's the reason and what's the solution? I tried to adapt https://www.mail-archive.com/yocto@yoctoproject.org/msg29001.html but that won't help. | 15:36 |
rburton | snouto: you don't need tlk for psplash, that's just an example of a layer that does fiddle psplash | 15:36 |
LeifSo | *while building an image | 15:36 |
rburton | snouto: the one thing tlk does is patch the kernel to be time locked :) | 15:36 |
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snouto | rburton: man , you are very valuable member here , i would vote for you as the best helper at least for me :) | 15:37 |
snouto | rburton: take this digital kiss from me , Moooooah | 15:37 |
rburton | haha | 15:38 |
rburton | thanks :) | 15:38 |
snouto | kergoth: stay a side , let people who respect beginners like rburton to speak, one day , i will be better than you , believe me | 15:38 |
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rburton | btw i don't think kergoth meant to be sarcastic | 15:39 |
kergoth | that's true, yes, sorry if it came across that way | 15:39 |
khem | rburton: btw. whats the point of tlk ? | 15:40 |
rburton | khem: so we can tell intel legal that we're not shipping binaries that can be used in production, they're for demo only | 15:40 |
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khem | heh thought so | 15:40 |
kergoth | avoiding liability? | 15:40 |
rburton | yeah, forces people to build their own stuff instead of using the images as a starting point and pretending its redhat | 15:41 |
kergoth | hehe | 15:42 |
rburton | not sure we should even bother shipping the binaries personally | 15:43 |
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khem | heh, its a different way of doing O_P_M | 15:43 |
kergoth | i expect they're shipped to try to improve hte out of box experience, since a from scratch initial build is likely to take quite some time | 15:44 |
LeifSo | any input on that taskhas issue? :-/ | 15:44 |
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kergoth | though an sstate mirror can mitigate that | 15:44 |
khem | a base android/brillo checkout is 34G | 15:45 |
khem | wow | 15:45 |
rburton | yeah, next time someone moans about the size of yp tell them to do an android build | 15:46 |
khem | heh :) | 15:46 |
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khem | I think OE is coming from other end | 15:46 |
khem | where folks have one or two apps and base system more or less they dont modify it | 15:47 |
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khem | so they thing its waste of time for them to spend build cycles on the platform part | 15:47 |
khem | but they need OE because size is important to them they dont want to build everything that debian would | 15:48 |
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kergoth | rburton: heh, to be fair, that checkout includes sources, whereas our builds fetch, so you'd ahve to include DL_DIR in the size :) | 15:49 |
rburton | i'll ignore that :) | 15:49 |
kergoth | :) | 15:50 |
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khem | kergoth: but its serialized | 15:55 |
khem | in OE case its parallel | 15:55 |
kergoth | repo can do parallel clones, though | 15:56 |
kergoth | not sure if they enable it in their manifest, though :) | 15:56 |
kergoth | but that's just default,l you can enable it on the sync line | 15:56 |
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khem | thats right I think they have 4 threads | 15:57 |
khem | kergoth: I did a du -sh on my download folder | 15:59 |
kergoth | that sounds unpleasant | 15:59 |
kergoth | i haven't done that in a while | 15:59 |
khem | its 6G | 15:59 |
kergoth | huh, not too bad | 15:59 |
khem | for a QT5 image and a XFCE image | 15:59 |
rburton | 20G/home/ross/Yocto/downloads/ | 15:59 |
khem | how many machines do you build rburton | 15:59 |
khem | with same downloads folder | 16:00 |
rburton | khem: 6g is only two copies of gcc, i don't believe you | 16:00 |
rburton | khem: mostly just x86 stuff and the odd qemuarm, but i haven't cleaned it for about two years | 16:00 |
rburton | the git2/ directory is 9g | 16:00 |
khem | kraj@haswell ~OEROOT/downloads/git2/github.com.gcc-mirror.gcc | 16:00 |
khem | % du -sh . | 16:00 |
khem | 2.4G . | 16:01 |
khem | 2.4G total | 16:01 |
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khem | rburton: this is clean build I did for angstrom yesterday | 16:01 |
khem | its building two architectures | 16:01 |
khem | arm7 and nios2 | 16:01 |
kergoth | mine has been accruing downloads for a very long time, multuiple yocto releases, mel versions, etc, it's at 57G so far | 16:02 |
kergoth | i expect there's some duplication between git2/ and git2_*.gz though | 16:02 |
rburton | thats more like it :) | 16:02 |
kergoth | i hate to delete anything, never know when the upstream is going to vanish into the ether | 16:03 |
khem | my core-image-minimal ( including build artifacts ) is less than 35G | 16:03 |
kergoth | that's not bad | 16:03 |
khem | android has these prebuilt SDKs | 16:04 |
khem | and all of them are checked out in one go | 16:04 |
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kergoth | RP: I'm assuming shallow is waiting a while, which doesn't surprise me, but were there any objections to the other one-off bitbake patches? Specifically, http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/121277/, http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/121279/, http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/121283/, and http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/121285/ ? | 16:18 |
kergoth | no rush, just wanted to see if there was anything I needed to do on those | 16:19 |
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RP | kergoth: those all seem reasonable to me offhand. The shallow one does worry me more, not found the time to think about it as much as I'd prefer to | 16:22 |
kergoth | Yeah, I figured as much, they're invasive. Generally they won't affect anything unless the feature is enabled, but when it is enabled we lack the tests to cover all the possible states | 16:23 |
kergoth | like i said, no rush, there's still plenty of time, just updating my document where i keep track of submission states :) | 16:25 |
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MattiasF | Do the sharedstate and site.conf shared download directories handle concurrrent builds? Trying to optimize our build server times here. | 18:38 |
kergoth | yes, it's completely safe to share DL_DIR and SSTATE_DIR between any of yoru builds, simultanious or otherwise, as lock files are used where needed | 18:40 |
MattiasF | Thank you, kergoth! | 18:40 |
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kergoth | QEGLPlatformContext: Failed to make temporary surface current, format not updated (3000) | 18:58 |
kergoth | hmm | 18:58 |
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snouto | what are packagegroups ? | 19:39 |
kergoth | recipes that emit a package that has no content, only dependencies | 19:40 |
kergoth | as the name would imply, it's a package grouping mechanism | 19:40 |
kergoth | you can install the group to get everything the grou pdepends on | 19:40 |
snouto | i have read them through yocto development manual but still i couldn't understand it very well , is there any external tutorial or any resource to read about packagegroups in yocto ? | 19:40 |
kergoth | it's not that complecated | 19:40 |
rburton | other distros call them metapackages or tasks | 19:40 |
snouto | kergoth: you knew , i had to modify distro folder inside meta-poky/conf/distro/poky.conf to change the distroName | 19:42 |
kergoth | modifying an upstream layer isn't kosher, just make your own distro that includes poky.conf | 19:42 |
kergoth | then changing the name is trivial | 19:42 |
snouto | kergoth: cuz cyball had told me to create a folder called distro inside my build conf directory | 19:42 |
snouto | when i bitbake core-image-minimal and run it onto qemu , it didn't take the change | 19:43 |
snouto | i had to change it in its original location | 19:43 |
rburton | lets backtrack: what do you want to do | 19:43 |
snouto | even bitbake -c cleansstate cor-image-minimal didn't do the trick | 19:43 |
snouto | rburton: i wanted to change the name "Poky (Yocto........)" | 19:44 |
snouto | header when the linux boots up to my product name | 19:44 |
snouto | for this , i had to ask people here in the room , cyball have told me to create a directory in my build conf called distro | 19:44 |
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snouto | mybuild/conf/distro | 19:44 |
rburton | yeah that's wrong | 19:44 |
snouto | inside this , i have created a file called poky.conf | 19:45 |
rburton | if you want to make your own distro then make your own layer (yocto-layer will write the boiler plate), add it to bblayers.conf, and in there put a whatevermydistroiscalled.conf | 19:45 |
snouto | rburton: what is the proper way | 19:45 |
rburton | that file can be the contents of poky.conf if you want | 19:45 |
rburton | then in local.conf set DISTRO=whatevermydistroiscalled | 19:45 |
rburton | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.1/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#creating-your-own-distribution <— like this | 19:46 |
kergoth | yocto-layer create local 1; bitbake-layers add-layer meta-local; mkdir -p meta-local/conf/distro; echo 'require conf/distro/poky.conf' >>meta-local/conf/distro/snouto.conf; echo 'DISTRO_NAME = "foo"' >>meta-local/conf/distro/snouto.conf; echo "LAYERDEPENDS_local = \"core poky\"" >>meta-local/conf/layer.conf; echo 'DISTRO = "snouto"' >>conf/local.conf | 19:46 |
kergoth | ah, yes, referencing the docs is best, read that :) | 19:46 |
rburton | if you just copy poky.conf to your own conf then you don't need to have meta-poky around at all, and get to delete all the bits from poky.conf that you don't care for | 19:47 |
rburton | its your distro, poky.conf is just an example | 19:47 |
snouto | kergoth: i really thank you so much , i really appreciate your help and also rburton | 19:48 |
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snouto | you know my friends , i am creating a new product | 19:49 |
snouto | a honeypot , where deception becomes defence | 19:49 |
snouto | i am a security big data architect , working with hadoop and apache spark , apache storm , for threat intelligence management | 19:50 |
snouto | i was always dreaming to understand building custom linux on embedded systems , that is my ultimate dream | 19:50 |
snouto | until recently , i got the courage to start this journey to study it | 19:50 |
snouto | i am coordinating with a chinese company to produce for me the network appliance | 19:51 |
snouto | and i should create the embedded linux distro customized to only this purpose , then i will have to harden it by selinux packages or recipes | 19:52 |
snouto | i think now , you understood what i am up to | 19:52 |
rburton | there's a selinux layer so that should be easy enough | 19:52 |
snouto | rburton: exactly | 19:53 |
rburton | time to eat | 19:53 |
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snouto | kergoth: do you know how can i build an installer for my linux distro that allow me to install it directly on my appliance like ubuntu server , centos server....etc | 19:54 |
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kergoth | the 'live' image type provides that, either as a disk image fro a usb card or a .iso | 19:55 |
kergoth | not very familiar with it personally | 19:56 |
snouto | live image ? | 19:56 |
snouto | do you mean bitbaking live instead of core-image-minimal ? | 19:56 |
snouto | kergoth: in your previous shell code | 19:58 |
snouto | you are saying | 19:58 |
snouto | yocto-layer create local | 19:58 |
snouto | and then | 19:58 |
snouto | bitbake-layers add meta-local | 19:58 |
snouto | are they the same thing ? | 19:58 |
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bengardiner | rburton: kergoth: thanks for you tips this morning. The CMakelists wasn't using CC but was using CFLAGS; so I fixed the recipe with TARGET_CFLAGS_prepend = "${TOOLCHAIN_OPTIONS} " | 20:09 |
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kergoth | snouto: ? | 20:13 |
kergoth | snouto: that question doesn't make any sense. they're two different commands | 20:13 |
kergoth | snouto: and no, i mean the live image type. go se ethe yocto project documentation about IMAGE_FSTYPES | 20:14 |
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snouto | kergoth: it gives me error , ERROR: Layer 'local' depends on layer 'poky', but this layer is not enabled in your configuration | 20:18 |
snouto | i have followed your steps one after the other | 20:18 |
kergoth | likely need to either change that from poky to yocto by editing meta-local/conf/layer.conf, or remove the LAYERDEPENDS and copy poky.conf rather than including it, the way rburton advised | 20:19 |
kergoth | forgot that while we renamed meta-yocto to meta-poky in the filesystem, the name in its layer.conf is still yocto | 20:19 |
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snouto | i followed the first part of your solution by renaming poky into yocto , and it is working fine now | 20:21 |
snouto | LAYERDEPENDS_local= "core yocto" | 20:21 |
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present | Hi | 22:47 |
present | Someone awake around? :) | 22:47 |
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