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| tbultel | Hi, I am working on a custom derivated board from sama5d3-xplained. The changes are very small, and it is a kind of prototype board. Thus, I do not want to simply add it into meta-atmel, because this will unlikely be published at any time. What would be the best approach to achieve this ? If I create a new meta-custom, how can I inherit from the definitions in .conf file of meta-atmel ? Basically, only the kernel changes in my case. Th | 06:17 |
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| fabc | hi, i'm looking for yocto project for Apollo Lake-I | 06:48 |
| fabc | someone can help me? | 06:48 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 06:53 |
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| mckoan | tbultel: yes, best practice is to create a new meta-custom | 06:54 |
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| mckoan | fabc: https://01.org/group/3606/documentation-list | 06:55 |
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| frsc | hi, are there any recipes available to build Qt5 for nativesdk, to be able to compile qt apps for the development host? | 08:33 |
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| CTtpollard | does yocto 2.2 have a name? | 09:11 |
| rburton | CTtpollard: not yet | 09:11 |
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| CTtpollard | rburton: ok :) I noticed meta-qt5 have 5.7 support in master-next so I was wondering in 2.2 was close | 09:12 |
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| rburton | CTtpollard: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_2.2_Schedule | 09:16 |
| CTtpollard | ty | 09:16 |
| CTtpollard | Oct, great | 09:17 |
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| mortderire | rburton: QQ | 09:22 |
| mortderire | rburton: how long are Yocto releases really support for? | 09:22 |
| mortderire | rburton: Documentation says ... Security patches and critical bug fixes are supplied one release back. No toolchain or kernel changes are allowed for these updates | 09:23 |
| rburton | yeah | 09:23 |
| rburton | sounds about right | 09:23 |
| mortderire | rburton: but I still dizzy being fixed ... http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/log/?h=dizzy | 09:23 |
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| mortderire | rburton: doesn't make sense to me | 09:23 |
| rburton | because there were some tragic CVEs | 09:23 |
| rburton | and some vendors are still using those releases in products, so they push the fixes upstream | 09:24 |
| mortderire | rburton: really nasty CVEs will cause updates. | 09:24 |
| mortderire | rburton: ok that makes sense. | 09:24 |
| rburton | are you complaining that older releases are getting security fixes? :) | 09:24 |
| mortderire | rburton: nope I am trying to make and arguement to move off the old release, and the fact that dizzy is getting fixes for CVEs is helping my case. | 09:25 |
| mortderire | rburton: this might be a case of 'worse is better' :-p | 09:26 |
| Jeena | I would like to run yocto on ArchLinux and it sometimes works but sometimes the GCC version is too new. I have adittionally installed gcc-4.8 in my system but have no idea how to g et bitbake to use it | 09:30 |
| rburton | Jeena: set BUILD_CC etc in your local.conf to point at gcc-4.8, just copy the values for BUILD_CC etc from bitbake.conf to local.conf and fiddle them as needed | 09:34 |
| Jeena | ah in the local conf? I had it as env variables | 09:39 |
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| * boucman_work is revert-engineering a product that uses yocto 1.6 :( | 09:51 | |
| boucman_work | but usually, there is no point in supporting such old releases... vendors that use them don't do any kind of update anyway | 09:52 |
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| LeifSo | so I execute e.g. "bitbake binutils". Just why would it try (and fail) to build gcc too?!?! | 10:05 |
| LeifSo | it's just cluttering up the error messages with information for tasks I did not request -.- | 10:06 |
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| LeifSo | how do I purge the entire state of a package so that it is build from the beginning? | 10:28 |
| JaMae | -c cleansstate | 10:28 |
| LeifSo | and how do I stop bitbake from attempting to continue build stuff of another unrelated package? | 10:30 |
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| LeifSo | JaMae: thanks, btw | 10:32 |
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| rburton | LeifSo: control-c? if bitbake is building it then its not unrelated, it's being rebuilt for a reason | 10:36 |
| rburton | probably dependencies on the target and its doing the rebuilds for that | 10:36 |
| LeifSo | rburton: that does not really make sense, as I want to build binutils, but bitbake tries to build gcc in parallel. | 10:37 |
| LeifSo | also what's up with binutils. It seems to ignore any CFLAGS appended using .bbappend -.- | 10:40 |
| LeifSo | I mean is it some sort of special package that is not influencable by appending? | 10:42 |
| LeifSo | or is it some weird bitbake state that hinders the application of the cflags? | 10:43 |
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| CTtpollard | am I right in thinking that it's still the case that yocto requires bash due to specific syntax used? | 11:05 |
| rburton | CTtpollard: no, we've tried to remove every bit of bash from the recipes | 11:05 |
| CTtpollard | interesting :) | 11:06 |
| rburton | sh can be bash or dash | 11:07 |
| rburton | on the build host that is. | 11:07 |
| CTtpollard | and zsh I presume? | 11:09 |
| LeifSo | apparently it's binutils-native vs. binutils. So appending anything to binutils does not apply it to generated binutils-native -.-' Same goes for e.g. gcc vs. gcc-cross-arm | 11:09 |
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| jku | LeifSo: what is in your bbappend? | 11:18 |
| LeifSo | jku: additional CFLAGS for Werror suppression | 11:38 |
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| LeifSo | jku: I had CFLAGS += "-Wno-error=unused-const-variable -Wno-shift-negative-value $CFLAGS" | 11:40 |
| LeifSo | but they weren't used | 11:40 |
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| LeifSo | now I'm trying CFLAGS_FOR_BUILD += "-Wno-error=unused-const-variable -Wno-shift-negative-value $CFLAGS" | 11:40 |
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| jku | should be BUILD_CFLAGS maybe? | 11:42 |
| jku | LeifSo: ^ | 11:42 |
| LeifSo | iirc I tried that too | 11:42 |
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| LeifSo | jku: also: it does not make any sense to distinguish here. | 11:43 |
| LeifSo | jku: BUILD_CFLAGS should be initialized with CFLAGS according to the docs | 11:43 |
| LeifSo | but it isn't | 11:43 |
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| LeifSo | so I installed autoconf 2.64 along 2.69. It's first in my $PATH, but yocto prefers to keep failing because 2.69 -.- | 12:40 |
| LeifSo | how do I tell it to use the autoconf version it desires? | 12:40 |
| diego_r | Hi guys. I have my own layer with my recipes and customizations. In my layer I have two images, one which is the "regular OS" that runs the product application, and one which is the "flash OS", a minimal ramdisk OS that flashes the disks. I want the two images to have different fstab files, what is the correct way to do that? I know how to handle machine / arch specific differences, but I don't think there's a way to " | 12:42 |
| diego_r | dress a package depending on the image it gets included in", right? | 12:42 |
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| diego_r | another thing I'd like to customize among the two images is the inittab | 12:45 |
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| boucman_work | diego_r: I think you can overwrite files on a per-image basis (i.e out of the original recipe) but I am not sure how. wic can update fstab when building an image, but that won't solve your init problem | 12:48 |
| jku | LeifSo: yocto does not use host autoconf. If you really want to use 2.64, add a recipe and use PREFERRED_VERSION_autoconf-native... but probably the right option is to actually fix whatever is failing with the newer autoconf | 12:50 |
| diego_r | should I create a my own "IMAGE_FEATURE"? | 12:51 |
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| LeifSo | jku: I don't *want* to use 2.64. It's binutils-native (apparently a dependency of binutils) that simply fails in configure stage, complaining about missmatching autoconf versions | 12:52 |
| LeifSo | one thing ahead: I'm using Arch | 12:52 |
| diego_r | boucman_work: Yeah, I know how to tweak my image while it is being created, but I don't want to add too much craft if there's a proper way | 12:52 |
| jku | right, if binutils-native fails to build, then the right thing to do is probably figure out why it's doing that, not to downgrade basic build tools | 12:55 |
| LeifSo | jku: http://pastebin.com/Z3UC7N9K | 12:56 |
| LeifSo | jku: so apparently that was because of ' BUILD_CFLAGS += "-Wno-error=unused-const-variable -Wno-shift-negative-value $CFLAGS"' in a .bbappend | 12:58 |
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| LeifSo | I have zero clue, why configure would fail when I set CFLAGS but, however, if I just set CFLAGS they're not respected either. | 12:59 |
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| LeifSo | but I need them because Arch's using gcc6 | 12:59 |
| LeifSo | the $CFLAGS at the end is a false leftover from a different approach | 13:00 |
| LeifSo | I figured that somebody wrote binutils so it won't pass CFLAGS to -native leaving me with a broken recipe | 13:01 |
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| rburton | LeifSo: oe-core master should be fine with gcc6 by the way, unless you're using a stable branch. install an older version of gcc and use that instead? | 13:04 |
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| LeifSo | rburton: I'll have a look, thanks | 13:07 |
| rburton | LeifSo: just set BUILD_CC etc to point at the right compiler (see bitbake.conf) | 13:08 |
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| LeifSo | rburton: I tried to use linaro's external toolchain initially | 13:09 |
| LeifSo | but that failed because of all sorts of broken RPMBUILDs :) | 13:09 |
| LeifSo | e.g. linaro and arago chose to append -foobar all over the place | 13:09 |
| LeifSo | to the PR | 13:09 |
| LeifSo | which, in turn, was fead to rpmbuild | 13:09 |
| LeifSo | after I fixed that, it would fail anyway, cause e.g. libc6-dev required libc6-r5.2-r5.2 (or similar) and nothing provided it | 13:10 |
| LeifSo | rburton: thanks for the hint! indeed it's fixed :-O | 13:13 |
| rburton | ask the proper question and the answer is obvious. the question is "what hoops do i need to go through to make arch work?" :) | 13:14 |
| rburton | not use a patched gcc6 which appears to be more pedantic than the release is the answer :) | 13:14 |
| rburton | (arch's gcc6 errors in places where nobody elses does) | 13:15 |
| LeifSo | rburton: you're of course right. My frustration was just enourmous. Especially with bitbake. | 13:15 |
| rburton | it would be nice if an arch user could maintain a wiki page of what tweaks need to happen to make current oe build on current arch | 13:16 |
| LeifSo | rburton: I had the patches for gcc 6 in place too. | 13:16 |
| rburton | afaik just using an older gcc is the best solution right now | 13:16 |
| rburton | especially if you're using a stable oe and not master | 13:16 |
| LeifSo | rburton: I'm just starting yocto. I'm keeping bbappend etc. around for stuff like gcc-version-specific patches/suppressions etc. | 13:18 |
| LeifSo | I need to get to know yocto better so it won't be a nonsense-tutorial | 13:18 |
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| LeifSo | e.g. I still don't know the bitbake build magic. I.e. how do I stop it from building (or trying to build) other stuff until I fixed a package, without having to specify the exact task | 13:20 |
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| qt-x | hello | 13:21 |
| glip | hi | 13:22 |
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| LeifSo | rburton: I'll hang around often, so I'll hopefully be able to help other Archers :) | 13:22 |
| glip | I'm build image for Rpi2 and stuck on gcc-runtime_5.3 linking with undefined reference to __dso_handle | 13:23 |
| glip | Can anyone give a tip how to resolve it | 13:23 |
| qt-x | glip which version of yocto | 13:29 |
| qt-x | ? | 13:29 |
| glip | krogoth latest from git | 13:30 |
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| kergoth | whee, resize-helper works great with one tweak to the parted args, and after updating to current 96boards-tools. tested it on minnowmax last night with mel | 16:55 |
| kergoth | resized in seconds, no noticeable delay to first boot at all | 16:55 |
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| kergoth | RP: since addtask can accept tasks with the do_ prefix, I'm thinking about doing a sed across oe-core to add the prefix for consistency. i.e. `addtask do_foo before do_bar after do_baz` rather than `addtask foo before do_bar after do_baz`. Normally i'm not a fan of that sort of blanket fixup, but I do think it'd be an improvement in consistency for folks reading hte metadata | 17:11 |
| kergoth | RP: thoughts? | 17:11 |
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| kergoth | RP: also, do we have a better way to diagnose a taskhash base mismatch? could we write the siginfo for that and then compare the info if it changed in the worker via a diffsig-like-operation? | 17:18 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #798 of nightly-non-gpl3 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-non-gpl3/builds/798 | 17:37 | |
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| kergoth | is the official, definitive list of yocto compatible criteria https://www.yoctoproject.org/webform/yocto-project-compatible-registration ? | 17:50 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #191 of nightly-checkuri is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-checkuri/builds/191 | 17:59 | |
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| kergoth | Why does wic both rely on bootimg/HDDDIR for efi and duplicate it? It requires HDDDIR setup, but then re-constructs the grub-efi/gummiboot configuration. Either it should be independent of the old image creation, or it should use it as is. Right now it's somewhere in between | 19:03 |
| kergoth | wic is still awfully intertwined with the metadata. it's supposed to be a standalone tool, but it's not, really | 19:04 |
| * kergoth ponders | 19:04 | |
| kergoth | i was going to make gummiboot and grub-efi deploy startup.nsh themselves, but of course the recipes can't do that, they write to DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE, while bootimg-efi in wic pulls from HDDDIR, not DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE. guess i'll modify the classes instead | 19:06 |
| fmeerkoetter | i have a question that is slightly offtopic but i could image you folks know it anyways. i have a problem editing variables with long values in uboot (env edit somevar) | 19:07 |
| fmeerkoetter | i can edit the line | 19:07 |
| fmeerkoetter | but the characters get strangly overwritten | 19:08 |
| fmeerkoetter | (bad description, i know...) | 19:08 |
| fmeerkoetter | what i wanted to say is that line editing seems to be broken | 19:08 |
| fmeerkoetter | do i need to tell uboot the width of my terminal? | 19:08 |
| fmeerkoetter | or something like that? | 19:08 |
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| smurray | what's the target release date of 1.8.2 now? | 23:20 |
| billr | smurray: don't take this as authorative, | 23:26 |
| billr | but RSN. I believe it's in the approval cycle. | 23:27 |
| smurray | okay, thanks. The list of bugs in the last QA email to the list was small, but there wasn't much followup. | 23:28 |
| billr | yes, last I heard there was nothing show stopping | 23:29 |
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