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bengardiner | hi guys, anyone wanna talk/gripe about devicetree? | 02:02 |
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kteza1 | Are there any established ways to update yocto rootfs over the air? | 10:03 |
CTtpollard | kteza1:nfsroot or similar? | 10:05 |
rburton | kteza1: the easy option is to ship the package manager and use that | 10:06 |
kteza1 | @CTtpollard Will check it out. Not aware. Just wanted to checkout all the options available and research | 10:06 |
rburton | ie have package-management in IMAGE_FEATURES so you have rpm/dpkg/opkg as appropriate, and then publish a feed | 10:06 |
rburton | there's more complex options - meta-swupd uses the Clear updater, and denx have a meta layer using a firmware/rootfs updater that i can't recall the name of | 10:07 |
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kteza1 | @rburton Thanks. Are there any container based solutions so that I can fallback easily? | 10:13 |
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LetoThe2nd | rburton: denx' is meta-swupdate by sbabic | 10:25 |
rburton | yeah that :) | 10:26 |
LetoThe2nd | given the number of people asking for stuff like that lately, one might really ponder creating and selling such a solution. | 10:28 |
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zedboard | hi, wanted to ask where i can find information to change the U-Boot SAVE_ENV_OFFSET define | 10:43 |
zedboard | possibly in the local.conf or in a separate layer... | 10:44 |
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maelcum | hello. i'm running into the infamous "Can't use 'defined(@array)' (Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)" perl error... in the toradex kernel, but i'd probably hit it later in gtk as well. | 11:29 |
maelcum | is it possible to override distro perl with an older "perl-native" package, maybe? | 11:30 |
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willnewton | By default in jethro it seems that the python3 recipe does not install .pyc files for source files in the standard library. Is there a way to enable that? | 13:41 |
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rburton | i thought we had it installing pyc but not pyo | 13:52 |
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willnewton | rburton, i find .pyc files in site-packages but not in /usr/lib/python3.4 | 13:56 |
willnewton | not sure if i have something misconfigured somewhere | 13:56 |
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kergoth | we should probably think about aligning bb.process more with subprocess, given the updates to the latter. use CalledProcessError, etc. | 14:57 |
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rburton | kergoth: yes | 15:02 |
kergoth | when we did that module and other related modules, no such exception existed :) | 15:02 |
kergoth | no check_output() either | 15:02 |
rburton | i wonder if we can just deprecate the wrapper in bb | 15:03 |
kergoth | i think we still need the SIGPIPE handling hook. not sure, though | 15:04 |
kergoth | if so, we could do a *really* minimal wrapper. Popen() that just defaults the preexec function, check_output() & friends that use that Popen | 15:05 |
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kergoth | that's a good idea though, need to check | 15:05 |
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kergoth | though, bb.process did have some bits for logging to a file, not sure if we need that or not | 15:05 |
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rburton | build.py uses that to log the output | 15:06 |
kergoth | ah, right | 15:06 |
rburton | thats the only user in bitbake+oe-core though | 15:06 |
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kergoth | rburton: python3 isn't exhibiting the same sigpipe behavior with subprocess | 15:10 |
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rburton | result | 15:10 |
kergoth | test case: subprocess.call('cat /dev/zero | head -c 10 | base64', shell=True) -> cat: write error: Broken pipe on python2, no errors on python3 | 15:11 |
rburton | please file a bug so we can remember to prune it | 15:11 |
rburton | or a patch! | 15:11 |
kergoth | so afaict we should be able to just drop 90% of that | 15:11 |
kergoth | we have other wrappers laying around too i think | 15:11 |
kergoth | oe.path has a copy of check_output() | 15:11 |
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rburton | yeah | 15:11 |
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kergoth | ah, there it is | 15:24 |
kergoth | rburton: there's a new restore_signals argument to Popen, defaults to True, it sets all the signals python normally sets to SIG_IGN to SIG_DFL | 15:24 |
kergoth | was wondering how it was handled | 15:24 |
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kergoth | huh, cool, python 3.5 adds subprocess.run() as a new high level api | 15:38 |
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kergoth | class subprocess.CompletedProcess | 15:39 |
kergoth | The return value from run(), representing a process that has finished. | 15:39 |
kergoth | ooh, timeout stuff | 15:39 |
rburton | oooo | 15:40 |
kergoth | oh nice, there's a DEVNULL you can pass as stdout/stderr | 15:40 |
kergoth | i got sick of creating that manually | 15:40 |
kergoth | (reading the 3.5 docs on subprocess :) | 15:40 |
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rburton | yeah i noticed last week they finally added a convenience thing for dev/null | 15:41 |
kergoth | The start_new_session parameter can take the place of a previously common use of preexec_fn to call os.setsid() in the child. | 15:41 |
kergoth | nice | 15:41 |
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aurele | hi everyone | 15:44 |
kergoth | RP: thoughts on deprecating __anonymous? I saw a recent patch added one instead of just python () | 15:47 |
RP | kergoth: it would seem to be a good idea | 15:48 |
RP | kergoth: certainly at least make it print a warning | 15:48 |
kergoth | yeah, i wouldn't want a hard deprecation yet, should follow typical deprecation process, warn, then next release error or something | 15:48 |
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* kergoth adds to todo | 15:48 | |
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aurele | does anyone knows if it is possible to open a devshell in current terminal? (I would like to script something in jenkins, but It would be easyier if I could run a devshell) | 15:56 |
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willnewton | rburton, i suspect the problem is that generate-manifest-3.5.py doesn't include __pycache__ in its globs | 16:06 |
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kergoth | that does sound about right | 16:07 |
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kergoth | ugh, what the hell was i thinking when i wrote oe.patch, this module is *terrible* | 16:25 |
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kergoth | this needs major refactoring | 16:32 |
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kergoth | Hmm, I think prefuncs/postfuncs are being included in the checksums for any function, but they're only *run* for tasks, not all functions | 16:36 |
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bottazzini | guys in do_configure phase, is it possible to have a "if not ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES...." ? | 17:36 |
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kergoth | bottazzini: not isn't a valid command in shell. | 17:41 |
kergoth | use ! | 17:41 |
bottazzini | kergoth, thanks :D | 17:43 |
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bottazzini | kergoth, It is a little bit strange also we don't use [ ] for bb.utils contains | 17:43 |
bottazzini | or should I put those ? | 17:43 |
kergoth | ? | 17:44 |
bottazzini | if [ ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES... ] ... | 17:44 |
kergoth | that would be pointless, depending on what the contains call is returning for treu and false | 17:44 |
kergoth | not only pointless, but wrong in most cases | 17:44 |
bottazzini | i see | 17:44 |
kergoth | the common case is for the contians() call to return 'true' for success and 'false' for failure | 17:45 |
kergoth | /bin/true and /bin/false are valid commands | 17:45 |
kergoth | we aren't testing the value, it's running the binary | 17:45 |
kergoth | the if statement only uses [] when running tests, not when running arbitrary commands | 17:45 |
kergoth | you could certainly reconstruct it to do so | 17:45 |
bottazzini | oh | 17:45 |
bottazzini | I understand | 17:45 |
kergoth | i.e. if [ "${@bb.utils.contains('FOO', 'bar', '1', '0'}" -eq 1 ] or something | 17:45 |
bottazzini | makes sense | 17:45 |
kergoth | but it wouldnt' add any real value | 17:45 |
bottazzini | yes indeed it is pointless | 17:46 |
kergoth | specfiically it'd offload comparison logic to the shell when we've already done that at parse time | 17:46 |
kergoth | well, expansion time | 17:46 |
bottazzini | i got it | 17:47 |
bottazzini | thanks :) | 17:47 |
kergoth | np | 17:47 |
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TwisteR | Hi! I'm new to Yocto. Having some trouble to launch it on Wandboard Quad (quided by http://wiki.wandboard.org/index.php/Getting_started_with_Yocto_on_Wandboard). Here is the boot log: http://tfsoft.org.ua/~twister/work/wand.log | 20:51 |
TwisteR | looks like u-boot is unable to find the kernel | 20:51 |
TwisteR | guided* | 20:52 |
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TwisteR | why does the default u-boot configuration fails in my case? | 20:53 |
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TwisteR | btw, I had to use MACHINE=wandboard, as there were no separate configurations (I suppose they are merged together recently and the recipe is out of date a bit) | 20:55 |
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TwisteR | Found another howto, which is differs from that one I've mentioned http://www.jumpnowtek.com/wandboard/Wandboard-Systems-with-Yocto.html | 21:07 |
TwisteR | last step this time is mk2parts.sh script | 21:07 |
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TwisteR | and a set of other scripts for preparing an microSD card | 21:08 |
TwisteR | so, what is the difference between that approach and using generated SD card image? | 21:09 |
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