davis | bluelightning: thanks for the help. I appreciate it. | 00:01 |
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davis | im going home for the day, i can pick up with the cmake again tomorrow. | 00:01 |
bluelightning | no problem, have a good evening | 00:01 |
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davis | when I got this code, it had screwed up dependencies and it seems as if its now a problem yet again. | 00:02 |
davis | btw, before I go, if I do nativesdk, will bitbake be able to build some code using cmake and then be able to run this code as part of its build? | 00:03 |
davis | i was able to do that when it was native and in the x86_64-linux work fs | 00:03 |
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bluelightning | davis: if you need to do that it's best to rely on the -native recipe to build those and then depend on that | 01:51 |
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zero_note | hi guys, I've googled a lot about my yocto-sdk problem without luck, so I am asking here | 08:07 |
zero_note | we're developing some custom apps and libraries, which will be part of the filesystem generated using bitbake, in addition to that we have "bitbaked" a sdk | 08:10 |
zero_note | that will be used by a 3rd part developer, which is not allowed to use our sources, but instead will use only binaries and libraries as provided | 08:12 |
zero_note | but the problem is that the SDK contains, in /usr/src/, all the apps/libs sources | 08:12 |
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zero_note | is there a simple way to avoid sources of a given package from being installed into the sdk? | 08:14 |
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LocutusOfBorg | hi, question: I would like to exclude some source files from the SDK, because the customer shouldn't see them (e.g. the dbg packages have the c files too), what is the best way to achive this? | 10:13 |
LocutusOfBorg | SDK_PACKAGING_COMMAND? | 10:13 |
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LocutusOfBorg | do yocto have a way to exclude files in a nicer way? | 10:14 |
rubiccube | Hello there, I am trying to build an image using yocto. My host machine's cpu has 64 threads, when I start building and it fetches packages, tasks are done using 64 thread, but in compilation it just doing 8 by 8. What should be the reason ? | 10:16 |
LocutusOfBorg | rubiccube, BB_NUMBER_THREADS | 10:16 |
LocutusOfBorg | is different from PARALLEL_MAKE | 10:17 |
LocutusOfBorg | a good result is achieved by PARALLEL_MAKE ?= "-j ${@oe.utils.cpu_count()}" | 10:17 |
LocutusOfBorg | even if somebody tells to use cpu number +1 or whatever | 10:17 |
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rubiccube | LocutusOfBorg: I am newbie, where should add this line: PARALLEL_MAKE ?= "-j ${@oe.utils.cpu_count()}" | 10:19 |
rubiccube | in conf/local.conf ? | 10:19 |
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LocutusOfBorg | yes, the same place as the other one? | 10:19 |
zero_note | rubiccube: exactly | 10:19 |
LocutusOfBorg | I usually end up in having both point to the same value :) | 10:19 |
rubiccube | zero_note: LocutusOfBorg Thank you, I am trying | 10:21 |
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TaZManiAc | ilker | 10:22 |
TaZManiAc | naber ? | 10:22 |
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rubiccube | Will anybody attend to Yocto Developer Day Europe ? | 10:22 |
rubiccube | TaZManiAc: Sagol abi | 10:22 |
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LocutusOfBorg | rubiccube, yw | 10:23 |
rubiccube | zero_note: LocutusOfBorg Nothing changed... | 10:23 |
LocutusOfBorg | PARALLEL_MAKE := "64" | 10:23 |
LocutusOfBorg | try that one | 10:23 |
rburton1 | cpu count is the default for num threads and parallel make | 10:23 |
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TaZManiAc | ilker geldim | 10:24 |
TaZManiAc | ne ayak bu salaklar ? | 10:24 |
rubiccube | LocutusOfBorg: Should I write BB_NUMBER_THREADS also ? | 10:24 |
rburton1 | rubiccube: its possible that it can only manage 8 because of dependencies | 10:25 |
rburton1 | ie until glibc is built. you can't do anything else | 10:25 |
rburton1 | but the default for BB_NUMBER_THREADS and PARALLEL_MAKE is cpu_count() | 10:26 |
rburton1 | so start by checking what that value actually is :) | 10:26 |
rubiccube | rburton1: As I said, when tasks are just fetch, It fetches using all threads, I mean fetches 64 packages at a time. So I got, you are right for the dependencies :) | 10:27 |
rubiccube | Anyway thanks for your help all. | 10:28 |
TaZManiAc | bravo | 10:29 |
rubiccube | And another question, when I build "bitbake fsl-image-multimedia" the fonts are in my application is not seems when I install it to my board. I am adding qtbase-fonts to IMAGE_INSTALL_append, it not finds this package.. By the way I am using the master branch. | 10:34 |
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LocutusOfBorg | rubiccube, | 10:53 |
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LocutusOfBorg | RDEPENDS_${PN} += "qtbase-fonts" | 10:53 |
LocutusOfBorg | it is a runtime dependency | 10:53 |
LocutusOfBorg | so, pick who needs the fonts and add the dependency in the recipe | 10:54 |
LocutusOfBorg | or override it | 10:54 |
LocutusOfBorg | and use meta-qt5 probably | 10:54 |
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rubiccube | LocutusOfBorg: thank you, Now, when I try to bitbake meta-toolchain-qt5 I got this error qt5/qtconnectivity_git.bb:do_compile) failed with exit code '1' | 11:02 |
rubiccube | LocutusOfBorg: And lots of undefined references | 11:02 |
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rubiccube | LocutusOfBorg: any idea > | 11:07 |
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neverpanic | Ulfalizer: If I set SUMMARY_${PN}-dev ?= "${SUMMARY} - development files", add ${PN}-dev to OVERRIDES in a copy of bb.data, and run localdata.getVar('SUMMARY', True), shouldn't that always throw an error because it's self-referential? | 12:27 |
neverpanic | Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here, but that exact thing seems to work on master | 12:28 |
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Ulfalizer | neverpanic: yeah, seems that should trigger an error. having ${PN}-dev in OVERRIDES sounds weird though. that might break stuff like FILES_${PN}-dev = ..., because it'd incorrectly get interpreted as an OVERRIDES override on FILES. | 12:39 |
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* Ulfalizer did an experiment with FOO_pn-${PN} = "${FOO}", python () { d.getVar("FOO", True) } | 12:41 | |
Ulfalizer | that triggers "Exception: variable FOO references itself!" | 12:41 |
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davis | hello neverpanic I hope you are doing good | 12:53 |
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neverpanic | Ulfalizer: What I described seems to happen in meta/classes/package_rpm.bbclass 336 and following, though. (link for convenience: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/classes/package_rpm.bbclass#n324) | 12:57 |
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neverpanic | I agree it would break FILES_*, but those variables aren't used in this branch of the code | 12:59 |
Ulfalizer | ohh... they're using the OVERRIDES mechanism to handle those variables locally | 13:00 |
Ulfalizer | yeah, shouldn't be a problem | 13:00 |
Ulfalizer | dunno why it doesn't break with SUMMARY though | 13:00 |
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davis | ok, so I am confused | 13:09 |
davis | i was talking to kergoth and bluelightning last yesterday | 13:09 |
davis | i changed around my build and now I have a problem with the files I'm building. | 13:10 |
davis | i run this incredibly long compiler setup to build a c program but I can not run it. | 13:11 |
davis | I'm guessing it needs to be run in the context of the compiler's sysroot. | 13:11 |
davis | so this does not seem to be what I need to do. | 13:11 |
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davis | is there anybod out there? | 13:30 |
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rburton1 | davis: no | 13:41 |
davis | bummer | 13:42 |
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fragfutter | i have a recipe using autotools. It checks for lsb_release, so i added a dependency on lsb (DEPENDS += "lsb"). But the recipe still can't find lsb_release. Am i missing something? | 14:01 |
rburton1 | fragfutter: why is it looking for lsb_release? sounds like something that is worth patching out | 14:03 |
fragfutter | disregarding this valid note, why is the package lsb not installed in my sysroot during buildtime? | 14:04 |
rburton1 | if you depends on it, then it is | 14:04 |
rburton1 | oh, the target sysroot strips out /usr/bin as you can't run anything anyway | 14:05 |
* rburton1 thinks | 14:06 | |
* rburton1 checks | 14:06 | |
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fragfutter | hm. now that i think of it. How should autotools work, are they using the build-hosts programs during configure? | 14:14 |
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rburton1 | mix of host and native sysroot | 14:19 |
rburton1 | and configure knows to look in the target sysroot for libraries etc | 14:20 |
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zeenix | hmm.. something is setting -Werror and i don't know what :( | 14:32 |
* neverpanic still doesn't understand how OVERRIDES .= ":foo-dev"; SUMMARY_foo-dev ?= "${SUMMARY} - text"; d.getVar("SUMMARY", True) works in packages_rpm.bbclass | 14:35 | |
rburton1 | zeenix: gnome-common? | 14:36 |
neverpanic | I'd welcome any insight into Yocto's override handling; I've looked into the code, but I don't understand how overrides (aka the cookie monster, apparently) work | 14:36 |
zeenix | rburton1, it does that? | 14:37 |
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rburton1 | zeenix: it used to | 14:37 |
rburton1 | zeenix: fairly simple to figure out where it comes from by grepping the build directory of the recipe to see what variable introduces it | 14:39 |
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joshuagl | neverpanic: did you read the docs? | 14:45 |
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joshuagl | neverpanic: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.1/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual.html#conditional-syntax-overrides | 14:46 |
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neverpanic | joshuagl: I'm familiar with that, yes; unfortunately it doesn't help me to understand whether an override can reference the non-override version of a variable | 14:49 |
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davis | rburton1: so my step 1 passed. I was able to build this massive cmake project for the host again. | 15:04 |
davis | i've laid out my entire recipe and the results here | 15:05 |
davis | https://gist.github.com/netskink/8f94dc200dd5f9991dbb4890d94b8113 | 15:05 |
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davis | im trying to build the sdk now, I am pretty sure these tools are not going to be in the sdk. but what do you think? | 15:07 |
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neverpanic | davis: "inherit native" and "BBCLASSEXTEND = native" are somewhat mutually exclusive | 15:09 |
neverpanic | While you notice that it doesn't immediately crash, it will probably only ever give you host builds | 15:09 |
neverpanic | I think BBCLASSEXTEND = "native" and not inheriting it explicitly is closer to what you'd need | 15:11 |
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davis | neverpanic: ok | 15:15 |
davis | when this sdk build completes. i'll remove that. | 15:15 |
davis | ahh, neverpanic I did try that before. I'm pretty sure if I do this: | 15:18 |
davis | inherit native | 15:18 |
davis | BBCLASSEXTEND="native" | 15:18 |
davis | err, | 15:18 |
davis | inherit cmake | 15:18 |
davis | BBCLASSEXTEND="native" | 15:18 |
davis | then it will fail | 15:19 |
kergoth | well, that's the right thing to do. failing or not, manually inheriting native and using bbclassextend will not do what you want | 15:19 |
davis | it will try to build the code for the target. it will build in the corei7-64-oe-linux and then when it tries to run the exe to build the lfotool and gnerators | 15:19 |
davis | it will not run since its geared for running on the target. | 15:20 |
davis | sigh, i'm so confused. | 15:20 |
kergoth | so patch its buildsystem to run the binaries from pcmx-native and add that as a dep | 15:20 |
kergoth | obviously you can't run the binaries you're building when crosscompiling | 15:20 |
davis | i am terrible at describing what I'm trying to do | 15:20 |
rburton1 | my step 1 and step 2 above are still the right thing to do | 15:21 |
rburton1 | one detail is that the recipe should be foo_version.bb and use BBCLASSEXTEND=native, not inherit native | 15:21 |
davis | im trying to listen to you folks, truly. | 15:22 |
davis | but i feel like i have not explained it well. | 15:22 |
davis | this code which is huge, has this complication where it needs to build some code, run this code to generate additional code, then build the final executables from the generated code. | 15:23 |
neverpanic | Your problem still seems to be that you need to tell your CMake buildsystem to run the generators from the sysroot of ptmx-native, not the ones it just built | 15:23 |
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rburton1 | davis: from your pastebin step 1 works, you just need to patch the target build so that it doesn't try to build the tools but will use the ones in the sysroot | 15:24 |
davis | that sounds spot on. | 15:24 |
davis | rburton1: yes. | 15:24 |
neverpanic | It might be easier for you to split the generators and the target stuff into separate projects, that would immediately make it clear. | 15:24 |
davis | trust me, this collection of cmake files is terribly ugly and filled with macros. i dont want to touch it more than I have now. | 15:25 |
davis | i had to add dependencies in the macros and turn off multicore builds and it finally builds. | 15:25 |
rburton1 | so the important thing is to get whoever wrote them to understand that this isn't a problem they can ignore and they should support cross builds | 15:25 |
rburton1 | (ie they fix the cmake lists) | 15:26 |
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neverpanic | It sounds to me like your biggest problem is the terribly ugly CMake stuff, and you might be better off fixing that than trying to work around it in bitbake | 15:26 |
davis | sigh, the guy who wrote these are no longer here. hence why i'm here. | 15:26 |
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rburton1 | personally i'd rip it all out and replace it with autotools ;) | 15:26 |
davis | yes, but its not an option. | 15:27 |
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davis | i honestly think someone thought this will be easy but has created such a mess, now its hard to fix. dependecny problems, installs as part of make, generators, etc. | 15:27 |
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davis | but anyway, enough whining. I know that if set what is in the pastebin it does build. | 15:28 |
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neverpanic | But it builds for the host architecture, unless you remove "inherit native", at which point it probably will no longer build. | 15:32 |
davis | neverpanic: i'm trying to see what happens when this sdk build completes or fails | 15:33 |
davis | well that was kind of quik. it failed. | 15:34 |
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fragfutter | can i tell an automake based recipe to not use a seperate build directory? | 15:39 |
rburton1 | fragfutter: inherit autotools-brokensep instead | 15:41 |
rburton1 | brokensep because the proper resolution is to fix the upstream makefile | 15:42 |
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fragfutter | rburton1: :) thanks. | 15:42 |
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kergoth | runfetchcmd really sucks in a number of ways | 15:51 |
kergoth | can't handle a cmd that's a list, can't retrieve stderr unless the command fails (problematic since stderr isn't just for errors, but anything out of band), etc | 15:51 |
rburton1 | kergoth: fetch3! | 15:52 |
kergoth | ugh | 15:52 |
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kergoth | runfetchcmd should really have just been a light wrapper around subprocess / bb.process which adjusts env per the fetch env var list and raises fetcherror, anything else is unnecessary | 15:53 |
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marka | joeythesaint: just saw your email now regarding samba, I haven't looked but suspect it is possible to do an arch specific blacklist, if I put together a patch would you consider applying it? | 18:42 |
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joeythesaint | marka: If it's justified, sure, but the pam auto-detection / packaging error thing doesn't seem like it should be that hard to fix, and that's across the board, AFAICT. | 18:49 |
joeythesaint | If it were just binutils and it were limited to 32-bit arm, I'm happy to blacklist it for one arch. | 18:50 |
marka | alright, I will try to take a closer look at it | 18:50 |
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a1cypher | anybody know how I can figure out how to specify the ethernet phy in the kernel dtb? If I dont have anything in there it detects the phy just fine, but if I add a phy-handle and corresponding section in the dtb then it doesnt detect or do anything | 19:58 |
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jmesmon | Is haveing '@' in the path to COREBASE still totally broken? I'm trying to build in jenkins, and it uses '@' in it's workspace paths | 21:16 |
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joshuagl | I'd be surprised, plenty of OE/YP users are using jenkins | 21:19 |
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Guest80168 | what is the simple way to add something which is built native to the sdk? | 21:53 |
Guest80168 | ie. just has inherit native. no bbclassextend mods | 21:53 |
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Ulfalize | davis: if the recipe has 'inherit native', then it's a native-only recipe | 21:55 |
Ulfalize | that might be a mistake by the recipe author though, if there's nothing else that limits the recipe to being native-only | 21:56 |
davis | yah, i'm writing it. | 21:56 |
Ulfalize | if you want the recipe to provide a target and an sdk version too, then do BBCLASSEXTEND = "native nativesdk" instead | 21:56 |
davis | i'm doing some experiments based on reading, but these books dont say anything about nativesdk | 21:56 |
Ulfalize | the recipe must be "generic" enough for that to work, but if you're lucky, it might already be | 21:57 |
davis | BBCLASSEXTEND showed up in one of the books and it was a java example. | 21:57 |
davis | ok many thanks | 21:57 |
Ulfalize | the latest version of the reference manual has some more information on BBCLASSEXTEND compared to earlier versions btw: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.2/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-BBCLASSEXTEND | 21:57 |
davis | thank hyou | 21:59 |
Ulfalize | np | 22:00 |
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Ulfalize | if you add BBCLASSEXTEND = "native nativesdk" to a recipe foo.bb for example, you'll get the foo, foo-native, and nativesdk-foo "recipes", all from the same bb file | 22:01 |
Ulfalize | -the | 22:01 |
Ulfalize | +the | 22:01 |
davis | you still need the inherit native, right | 22:04 |
davis | my understanding is that inherit is for using a class. ie. foo.class | 22:04 |
davis | and that BBCLASSEXTEND is just that. it extends a class. | 22:04 |
Ulfalize | nope, you shouldn't inherit native if you're using BBCLASSEXTEND | 22:04 |
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davis | so that you can built multiple targets with the same recipe. | 22:05 |
davis | ok | 22:05 |
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davis | this jives with what kergoth told me earlier today | 22:05 |
Ulfalize | conceptually, it'll generate a separate version of the recipe for each class in BBCLASSEXTEND, where each version inherits that particular class | 22:05 |
davis | ok, one other thing I read regarding BBCLASSEXTEND | 22:05 |
davis | this is from the strief book | 22:05 |
davis | he said, ~if you use BBCLASSEXTEND it builds the target first and then the class(variant?) | 22:06 |
Ulfalize | it also does some rewriting of variables for you though, that usually do The Right Thing, e.g. turning a DEPENDS on foo into a dependency on foo-nativesdk for the nativesdk version | 22:06 |
Ulfalize | davis: dunno what order things will be processed in. it shouldn't usually matter though. | 22:07 |
davis | but you make a good point | 22:07 |
davis | if you use a depends, you could force the order | 22:07 |
davis | maybe | 22:07 |
Ulfalize | davis: think of it as a copy-paste of the recipe with inherits for each of the classes you list + some magic for dependencies and the like that usually do The Right Thing :) | 22:08 |
davis | cool. i'm about to do another try with BBCLASSEXTEND and not inherit. | 22:08 |
davis | see3 what happens | 22:08 |
Ulfalize | the magic dependency-rewriting stuff is handled inside meta/classes/{native,nativesdk}.bbclass btw. it only triggers when you use BBCLASSEXTEND to inherit them though. | 22:12 |
Ulfalize | and it's not important that you understand it. might be nice to know that it's there at least. | 22:13 |
davis | now I see what kergoth was trying to tell me. He gave me this line. | 22:13 |
Ulfalize | or maybe i'm just adding too much detail :P | 22:13 |
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davis | DEPENDS_class-target="pcmx-native" | 22:13 |
davis | i was looking through my notes trying to find how I would write the target variant variable to be dependent on the native build. | 22:13 |
davis | i was thinking DEPENDS_pcmx-target = ... | 22:14 |
davis | but it looks like you specify class suffix | 22:14 |
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Ulfalize | DEPENDS_class-target = "${PN}-native" might work | 22:15 |
Ulfalize | PN is just the recipe name, to avoid repeating it | 22:15 |
Ulfalize | never seen a recipe depend on a variant of itself like that :S | 22:15 |
davis | this is a cmake build which generates exes which generate source. nobody sane would do this. | 22:16 |
Ulfalize | maybe you want DEPENDS_append_class-target = "${PN}-native" too. otherwise, you're overwriting any other stuff you're putting in DEPENDS. | 22:16 |
Ulfalize | heh | 22:16 |
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Ulfalize | urr, " ${PN}-native" | 22:16 |
Ulfalize | need to add the space yourself when using _append | 22:17 |
davis | if had to do this, i would a) not use a generator. b)if absolutely necessary I would use an interpeter that could run on host or target . | 22:17 |
Ulfalize | can't fill the enterprise quota without generating some messy code | 22:18 |
davis | cool. i saved your notes to a log. I'm going to try this simple thing before I stop for the day. | 22:18 |
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davis | hmm. that did not take long. | 22:19 |
davis | right off the bat it fails. | 22:19 |
davis | can not install generator | 22:19 |
bluelightning | not to put too fine a point on it, but didn't we go over these exact things yesterday? | 22:19 |
bluelightning | generator? | 22:20 |
davis | lol, pal i've been fighting this for a few weeks | 22:20 |
bluelightning | sorry to hear that | 22:20 |
davis | it took me at least two to get the host to build. | 22:20 |
davis | its ok | 22:20 |
davis | fwiw, here is what i've got up to now | 22:20 |
davis | https://gist.github.com/netskink/8f94dc200dd5f9991dbb4890d94b8113 | 22:20 |
Ulfalize | still has both 'inherit native' and 'BBCLASSEXTEND = "native"' | 22:22 |
davis | step 1 notes alternate | 22:22 |
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a1cypher | Hrm.. strange problem I'm having. I have a new yocto built kernel running on a custom board. If I boot into the yocto built rootfs the board gets an IP address fine and it looks like its working, but its not. If I try to ping or otherwise access the network it doesnt work. | 22:35 |
a1cypher | When I type "route" it takes about ~20 seconds to return and then only shows me two routes that look OK, but no local route. | 22:35 |
a1cypher | If I boot up into my old rootfs built with a different tool using the new yocto kernel, it gets an IP and I can reach the outside net just fine, route returns instantly, etc.. | 22:36 |
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a1cypher | Now, the weird thing is that if I then boot the same kernel and the yocto root file system on the devboard I have (only the DTB is different, also has a differny ethernet PHY), it works fine | 22:37 |
fray | use rounte -n does it return immediately? if so, it's a name server proble (the 20 seconds bit) | 22:44 |
fray | the 20 seconds (no name server) may be the result of not being able to access the network... | 22:44 |
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a1cypher | hrm | 22:50 |
a1cypher | whats weird is that if I try and renew dhcp it returns immediately and even correctly sets the nameservers in resolv.conf | 22:50 |
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a1cypher | route -n does return immediately btw | 22:51 |
nerdboy | so does anyone build a bare-metal cortex-m4 toolchain/sdk with this stuff? | 22:52 |
* nerdboy not really bare-metal experienced yet... | 22:52 | |
nerdboy | i made one with crossdev but it's not really made to be "portable" | 22:53 |
a1cypher | maybe checkout http://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded | 22:54 |
a1cypher | thats my goto | 22:54 |
nerdboy | thanks, i've see a little of that | 22:57 |
nerdboy | *googling | 22:57 |
nerdboy | but i did want my hardened patches and config | 22:58 |
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nerdboy | i want to replicate something like this => http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23152279/ | 22:59 |
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nerdboy | i could probably rebuild ubuntu debs | 23:02 |
nerdboy | prefer something more generic | 23:02 |
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #527 of eclipse-plugin-mars is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/eclipse-plugin-mars/builds/527 | 23:08 | |
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