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| Ulfalizer | why is ALLOW_EMPTY_${PN}-dev/dgb = "1" the default? won't that cause lots of redundant packages to be generated? | 00:22 |
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| kergoth | Ulfalizer: due to 'depchains' processing. a -dev will depend on the -dev of the DEPENDS of the recipe. i.e. if ncurses needs glibc, then ncurses-dev needs glibc-dev, all the way down. if one wasn't emitted, it'd break the chain and leave bits uninstalled | 00:45 |
| Ulfalizer | ok, thanks. might be undocumented. | 00:47 |
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| Ulfalizer | kergoth: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/48072864356daf934490dc3102d98266 does this look alright? | 02:45 |
| kergoth | seems reasonable to me, but best to run it by the technical docs folks on the project to review the wording | 02:46 |
| Ulfalizer | yeah, i always submit bugs for documentation patches anyway. ty. | 02:47 |
| kergoth | np | 02:51 |
| kergoth | thanks for writing it up, i'm sure plenty of folks don't know about it | 02:52 |
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| nancy | what can I do ? | 09:30 |
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| fenrig | Hi where can I find general info about codecs? | 13:06 |
| JEEB | sure is a weird question to do in this channel | 13:11 |
| JEEB | the response of course depends on what exactly you want to learn about encoding or decoding multimedia | 13:13 |
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| fenrig | yeah i meant concerning yocto :D | 13:18 |
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| fenrig | hahaha, I need full codec support as I'm toying with openembedded | 13:18 |
| JEEB | not sure if OE/yocto has a flag to stop disabling things in libavcodec | 13:20 |
| fenrig | Im having issues with ffmpeg :/ | 13:20 |
| JEEB | but as soon as you remove the disable-all kind of configuration there you will have a whole lot of stuff available through it | 13:20 |
| fenrig | disable-all"? | 13:20 |
| JEEB | last I checked OE/yocto builds with "disable-all" or "disable-decoders" "disable-encoders" and then enables stuff like vp8 | 13:21 |
| JEEB | check the FFmpeg build recipe | 13:21 |
| fenrig | the inc | 13:21 |
| fenrig | or the bb? | 13:22 |
| JEEB | whichever contains the configure script invocation parameters | 13:22 |
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| JEEB | I should really look into OE/Yocto again to build images for my rpi3 with latest FFmpeg/libmpv :) | 13:24 |
| fenrig | Im playing with the rpi3 | 13:25 |
| fenrig | but in korgoth | 13:26 |
| fenrig | and I have a sense that not every codec is present | 13:26 |
| fenrig | http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-multimedia/ffmpeg/ffmpeg_3.0.bb?h=krogoth | 13:26 |
| fenrig | ffmpeg recipe | 13:26 |
| fenrig | ${@bb.utils.contains('USE_NONFREE', 'yes', '--enable-nonfree', '', d)} | 13:27 |
| JEEB | nonfree is not generally related to video/audio support | 13:27 |
| JEEB | it's only related to making a binary that can't be distributed | 13:27 |
| JEEB | the only relevant'ish library that currently requires enable-nonfree is libfdk_aac | 13:27 |
| JEEB | and that's only for HE-AAC encoding | 13:27 |
| JEEB | LC-AAC encoding can be handled with the internal aac encoder which is LGPL | 13:28 |
| fenrig | oh okay | 13:29 |
| JEEB | enable-nonfree only refers to software licenses | 13:29 |
| JEEB | not actual formats | 13:29 |
| JEEB | (basically "enable linking against things that require the binary to be marked non-distributable") | 13:29 |
| JEEB | (as the licenses are incompatible) | 13:30 |
| JEEB | quickly glancing through the recipe it seems semi-sane | 13:31 |
| JEEB | just that 3.0 isn't exactly a new FFmpeg release, and that it depends on your PACKAGECONFIG | 13:31 |
| JEEB | you should check what sort of configure line your configuration currently ends up with | 13:31 |
| JEEB | it should be logged somewhere | 13:31 |
| JEEB | I think the rpi3 hw decoding support might have been post-3.0 if you need that | 13:32 |
| fenrig | ah okay | 13:34 |
| fenrig | so no hw decoding with korgoth? | 13:35 |
| JEEB | ok, no MMAL seems to have been added in 2.7... | 13:35 |
| JEEB | https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/blob/master/Changelog | 13:35 |
| JEEB | when you get close enough to OSS multimedia you learn that nobody cares about releases as they're just provided to places like distros. they really aren't any better than most other commits in master :) | 13:36 |
| JEEB | (at least talking of FFmpeg et al) | 13:36 |
| JEEB | fenrig: so what was your actual issue you were facing? | 13:36 |
| JEEB | you should check a) the configure line b) the config.log created in the buildroot | 13:37 |
| JEEB | latter has the configure script's output | 13:37 |
| JEEB | that way + knowing what your issue was we could get a better hint at what could be done to improve things :P | 13:37 |
| fenrig | okay give me some minutes, Im retesting with m4a | 13:39 |
| fenrig | I will try that again and if that works Ill report back | 13:39 |
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| fenrig | okay m4a working, mp3 radio streams are not :/ | 14:14 |
| fenrig | something with double free in ffmpeg | 14:14 |
| fenrig | or in mpd | 14:14 |
| fenrig | How do i check this config.log? | 14:17 |
| fenrig | is there a bitbake command for that? or do i have to find it manually | 14:17 |
| JEEB | there should be a dir in which bitbake does the configure call (build dir of the component), config.log of FFmpeg should be there | 14:18 |
| JEEB | also that just sounds like a bug in either mpd or in that specific version of FFmpeg | 14:19 |
| JEEB | if you can't upgrade to 3.1 or master, then 3.0.3 is the newest version from the 3.0 branch | 14:20 |
| JEEB | you should probably check with gdb or so where the issue happens since that sounds like a bug somewhere rather than just a configuration mistake | 14:20 |
| fenrig | mmm | 14:21 |
| fenrig | is there a simple way to upgrade to newest ffmpeg | 14:22 |
| JEEB | well to 3.0.3 it should be simple enough if you switch BP and the archive checksums | 14:25 |
| JEEB | 3.1 and master would require making sure that anything depending on the thing utilizes APIs in a way that wasn't deprecated a few releases ago | 14:25 |
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| fenrig | how is bp passed? | 14:25 |
| JEEB | anyways, I would first make sure if those same things fail the same way on your desktop :P | 14:26 |
| JEEB | since you can build them in a prefix or your own and then debug locally | 14:26 |
| JEEB | if you want to debug that stuff, that is. because it sounds like it could be a bug in mpd, or a bug in FFmpeg that has since been fixed (or still is a bug). both are possibilities. | 14:27 |
| fenrig | in my previous archlinux mpd build | 14:27 |
| fenrig | it worked fine :/ | 14:27 |
| JEEB | well are you using the same versions of things there :P | 14:27 |
| fenrig | and ffmpeg is bleeding edge on arch | 14:27 |
| JEEB | yes, that I know. | 14:27 |
| JEEB | but so would be mpd | 14:28 |
| JEEB | or well, both would be some random version that not necessarily is what you have here :P | 14:28 |
| JEEB | anyways, not sure if BP was parsed off of the recipe file name or what | 14:28 |
| JEEB | (by switching BP and the checksums you should be able to upgrade to at least 3.0.3) | 14:29 |
| JEEB | then you could try 3.1 depending on how mpd uses the FFmpeg APIs | 14:29 |
| JEEB | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.8/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-BP | 14:30 |
| JEEB | I don't remember 100% if you need to cp the 3.0 recipe or if a bbappend is enough | 14:33 |
| JEEB | to make it have a 3.0.3 one | 14:33 |
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| JEEB | ok, so you need to copy | 14:34 |
| JEEB | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Upgrading_packages | 14:34 |
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| fenrig | okay Im upgrading mpd | 14:34 |
| JEEB | if you want to keep the thing that came from the other OE thing | 14:34 |
| fenrig | and after that I'll try ffmpeg | 14:35 |
| JEEB | and then in the ffmpeg_3.0.3.bb you upgrade the hashes | 14:35 |
| JEEB | according to the tar.xz file in https://www.ffmpeg.org/releases/?C=M;O=D | 14:35 |
| fenrig | yeah did it with mpd | 14:35 |
| fenrig | but first Im gonna recompile mpd, try and spot the double free there again | 14:35 |
| fenrig | and then upgrade ffmpeg | 14:36 |
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| JEEB | alright | 14:36 |
| fenrig | to hopefully 3.1 | 14:36 |
| fenrig | I think mpd and youtube-dl are the only ffmpeg dependable packages | 14:36 |
| JEEB | yeah, if mpd is the only thing using ffmpeg and you know it utilizes it in a way that lets you upgrade to 3.1 | 14:36 |
| JEEB | then upgrading is always The Correct Way | 14:36 |
| fenrig | newest mpd release is ffmpeg 3.1 compat | 14:36 |
| JEEB | personally if I were making an FFmpeg recipe I would probably just use the git repo and stick to specific hashes on master | 14:37 |
| JEEB | because that's how I do it elsewhere | 14:37 |
| fenrig | oh okay | 14:37 |
| JEEB | 1) check if current master is green on FATE | 14:37 |
| fenrig | I check out master then | 14:37 |
| JEEB | 2) if yes, upgrade | 14:37 |
| JEEB | 3) if no, stay put or look at the latest that still was green | 14:37 |
| JEEB | FATE being http://fatebeta.ffmpeg.org/ | 14:37 |
| JEEB | the automated testing suite | 14:38 |
| JEEB | but don't move to git unless you remember how to do it easily :) I would start with 3.1 | 14:38 |
| JEEB | it never feels good when something stops building correctly when you have deps | 14:38 |
| JEEB | also the latest in the 3.1 series of FFmpeg is 3.1.3 I guess | 14:38 |
| JEEB | so if you're going that way I recommend that one | 14:39 |
| JEEB | (at the very least) | 14:39 |
| fenrig | 3.1.3 is in master | 14:39 |
| fenrig | yeah indeed | 14:39 |
| JEEB | yes, everything that goes into the release branches is cherry-picked from master | 14:39 |
| JEEB | (of course when people remember to pick things up that is) | 14:40 |
| fenrig | mpd upgrade fixed mp3 playback, broke m4a playback :P | 14:44 |
| fenrig | i need both | 14:44 |
| JEEB | hehe :) | 14:46 |
| JEEB | might want to upgrade FFmpeg to 3.1.3 and see how things are. although AAC decoding as such is something that very rarely breaks | 14:46 |
| JEEB | because the FATE tests have a lot of AAC samples | 14:46 |
| JEEB | (m4as usually contain AAC audio) | 14:46 |
| fenrig | yeah I did add faac | 14:47 |
| fenrig | maybe that changed something | 14:47 |
| JEEB | faac isn't needed | 14:47 |
| fenrig | removed it again | 14:47 |
| JEEB | faac is a crappy enable-nonfree requiring encoder | 14:47 |
| JEEB | I think it was removed in later versions because of the internal aac encoder and fdk-aac handling all the things you'd think of using faac for | 14:47 |
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| JEEB | and as I noted, it's an encoder. not a decoder | 14:47 |
| fenrig | odd | 14:48 |
| fenrig | so probably m4a will still be broken | 14:48 |
| fenrig | but its mpd thats having issues with it | 14:48 |
| JEEB | if you also build the ffmpeg command line tool you can try decoding things with it | 14:48 |
| fenrig | because ffmpeg is still orginal | 14:48 |
| JEEB | `ffmpeg -i input -f null -` | 14:48 |
| JEEB | is the command line syntax for decoding an input | 14:49 |
| JEEB | -f null is a clever way to say that all decoded output should be discarded, and the trailing dash is "output to stdout" (except -f null makes there be no output) | 14:49 |
| JEEB | that way you can check if ffmpeg.c fails at decoding that file | 14:50 |
| fenrig | okay it has nothing to do with faac | 14:53 |
| fenrig | lets upgrade ffmpeg | 14:53 |
| JEEB | let's just say that 99%+ of things are included in the default build without any configure parameters in FFmpeg (since almost everything decoding-wise is in internal and LGPL) | 14:53 |
| JEEB | also man, this really makes me want to poke openembedded again :) | 14:54 |
| JEEB | haven't done it since middle of 2015 or so | 14:54 |
| fenrig | yeah my last time is from a year ago | 14:54 |
| fenrig | was playing with the bbb and the pru | 14:55 |
| fenrig | wanted to add support to yocto | 14:55 |
| fenrig | for programming the pru's | 14:55 |
| fenrig | but then life kicked in again | 14:55 |
| fenrig | but now Im building a | 14:55 |
| fenrig | youtube-dl and radio raspberry pi | 14:55 |
| fenrig | for listening music when people come to my house :D | 14:55 |
| JEEB | :) | 14:55 |
| JEEB | youtube-dl is pretty awesome. I'm using it daily with mpv | 14:56 |
| fenrig | ffmpeg 3.1.3 is compiling | 14:56 |
| JEEB | mpv "random-service-url" and it utilizes youtube-dl in the background | 14:56 |
| fenrig | yeah but I like to have an openembedded build, so I can move to other sbc's more easily and so I can set up a package repo :P | 14:56 |
| JEEB | :) | 14:56 |
| fenrig | mpv is coupled with mpd? | 14:56 |
| JEEB | no | 14:56 |
| JEEB | mpv is the mplayer->mplayer2->mpv fork | 14:57 |
| fenrig | ah yes | 14:57 |
| JEEB | least retarded of the mplayer family right now, and the most active | 14:57 |
| fenrig | well my setup is headless :P | 14:57 |
| JEEB | yeah, makes sense :) | 14:57 |
| fenrig | I also saw kodi | 14:57 |
| fenrig | in the recipes somewhere | 14:57 |
| fenrig | would be cool if that worked okay :P | 14:57 |
| fenrig | but I saw its blacklisted | 14:58 |
| JEEB | reminds me that the kodi people noticed my yocto sticker on my laptop | 14:58 |
| JEEB | and noted that they needed someone to maintain the recipes | 14:58 |
| JEEB | :D | 14:58 |
| fenrig | did you accept the offer? | 14:58 |
| JEEB | nope, I don't care enough about kodi | 14:58 |
| JEEB | and I haven't worked with OE for quite a while | 14:58 |
| fenrig | I think it has its merits :D | 14:59 |
| JEEB | yeah, sure | 14:59 |
| JEEB | I am just currently in the mode where I like to poke around using libmpv with things | 14:59 |
| fenrig | also, has someone ever tried building a router with openembedded? | 14:59 |
| JEEB | quite a few people I think? | 14:59 |
| fenrig | yeah at the moment i have internship at a company building with openwrt | 15:00 |
| JEEB | yeah, that one has the router stuff from the get-go | 15:00 |
| JEEB | so many companies utilize it | 15:00 |
| fenrig | would be cool if openembedded replaces it in the (far) future | 15:01 |
| fenrig | yeah building youtube-dl and mpd worked :D | 15:01 |
| fenrig | with new ffmpeg | 15:01 |
| JEEB | nice | 15:01 |
| fenrig | making image at the moment and then Ill have to put it on sd | 15:02 |
| JEEB | also I think youtube-dl doesn't really require the libraries, I remember it just calling the ffmpeg cli tool | 15:02 |
| fenrig | yeah possibly :P | 15:02 |
| fenrig | like I just call mpc in my web interface to mpd | 15:02 |
| fenrig | well actually only for the youtube part XD | 15:02 |
| JEEB | btw, did OE itself have a rpi3 target nowadays? just wondernig how quickly I could get flying with just vanilla? | 15:03 |
| fenrig | no | 15:03 |
| fenrig | im using jumpnow tek | 15:03 |
| fenrig | :D | 15:03 |
| JEEB | ok | 15:03 |
| fenrig | its a meta-rpi layer building on meta-raspberrypi | 15:03 |
| fenrig | it has scripts and some extra things | 15:04 |
| fenrig | though most comes from meta-raspberrypi | 15:04 |
| JEEB | yeah, you need a specific kernel config and the firmware for the GPU | 15:04 |
| fenrig | not really using the gpu | 15:04 |
| fenrig | but kernel is booting up fine | 15:04 |
| fenrig | allthough | 15:04 |
| fenrig | I do think | 15:04 |
| fenrig | the openembedded build is not arm64 | 15:04 |
| fenrig | im not sure | 15:04 |
| fenrig | though | 15:04 |
| JEEB | well you feed it the firmware as the GPU handles early boot, I think? | 15:05 |
| fenrig | ah yes indeed | 15:05 |
| fenrig | I know that was the case for rpi1 | 15:05 |
| fenrig | well gpu firmware is being distributed in the jumpnowtek build | 15:05 |
| fenrig | so | 15:05 |
| fenrig | otherwise i cant boot this thing :P | 15:05 |
| JEEB | yup :) | 15:06 |
| fenrig | I would be so glad if this build works fully :P | 15:07 |
| JEEB | I've just had this idea in the back of my head that since sony is being a REDACTED with their android TVs and seemingly not letting me use UHD opengl contexts, that I could stick an rpi3 to a TV and have a full-screen Qt based libmpv app running on it | 15:07 |
| JEEB | for media playback | 15:07 |
| fenrig | yeah would be cool ! | 15:08 |
| JEEB | although I'm not sure how well the GPU on the rpi3 supports the opengl es video renderer :/ | 15:08 |
| fenrig | YES, both are working | 15:10 |
| JEEB | najs | 15:10 |
| fenrig | YEAH YEAH YEAH | 15:10 |
| fenrig | allright :P | 15:10 |
| JEEB | meanwhile I will have to fix things because FFmpeg seems to have broken things I require for my dayjob :) | 15:10 |
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| JEEB | (still better than any of the closed source media stuff I've touched) | 15:11 |
| fenrig | yeah ffmpeg is pretty awesome | 15:12 |
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| fenrig | would it be possible to run firefox solely in x on the pi? | 15:12 |
| fenrig | so no DE | 15:12 |
| fenrig | just firefox | 15:12 |
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| fenrig | Lol i dont have echo | 15:16 |
| rob_w | no DE ? | 15:17 |
| fenrig | desktop enviroment | 15:17 |
| fenrig | like gnome | 15:17 |
| fenrig | or kde | 15:17 |
| rob_w | sure | 15:17 |
| fenrig | are there any guides for this on openembedded? | 15:17 |
| JEEB | so a plain x server and then set firefox to connect to it | 15:17 |
| fenrig | yep | 15:17 |
| rob_w | firefox is still a gtk app based x client, imho | 15:18 |
| JEEB | yes | 15:18 |
| JEEB | it will still require the GTK+ stuff to be around | 15:18 |
| rob_w | well the gtk libs yes | 15:18 |
| rob_w | but not the gnome desktop or even a windowmanager | 15:18 |
| JEEB | yup | 15:19 |
| rob_w | but that will make his popups abike flaky | 15:19 |
| rob_w | i am using midori on some devices | 15:19 |
| fenrig | other browser then? | 15:19 |
| fenrig | I need some kind of extension support | 15:19 |
| fenrig | to send youtube urls to my ympd webserver | 15:19 |
| rob_w | what kind | 15:19 |
| fenrig | probably the url from the current window/tab | 15:20 |
| rob_w | midori is good embedded webkit based browser .. it does quite some stuff | 15:20 |
| rob_w | via dbus =? | 15:20 |
| rob_w | or how ? | 15:20 |
| fenrig | websocket :D | 15:21 |
| fenrig | forgot to mention that XD | 15:21 |
| fenrig | I already have an android app :P | 15:21 |
| fenrig | but iphone users are left in the cold | 15:21 |
| rob_w | dunno if that exists yet but should be fast to implement if not | 15:21 |
| fenrig | (not coughing up a dev license for that) | 15:21 |
| JEEB | well websockets should be in the browser, no? | 15:21 |
| fenrig | yep | 15:21 |
| JEEB | if it's a new enough webkit | 15:22 |
| fenrig | I think websockets is not that recent | 15:22 |
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| fenrig | but maybe | 15:24 |
| fenrig | I need to setup a package repo first | 15:24 |
| fenrig | because I need youtube-dl to stay quite recent | 15:25 |
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| fenrig | got any advice on how to setup a simple package repo? | 15:29 |
| fenrig | got some pointers? | 15:29 |
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| fenrig | wich layers do i need | 16:19 |
| fenrig | for midori? | 16:19 |
| fenrig | i found | 16:19 |
| fenrig | meta-web-kiosk | 16:19 |
| fenrig | and now i need the package for webkit-gtk | 16:19 |
| fenrig | but I can only find | 16:19 |
| fenrig | meta-webkit | 16:19 |
| fenrig | which has webkitgtk | 16:19 |
| fenrig | (without the dash) | 16:19 |
| fenrig | okay had to change webkit-gtk to webkitgtk in depends | 16:27 |
| fenrig | meta-web-kiosk is probably not that up too date anymore | 16:27 |
| fenrig | I noticed it had only 2 branches | 16:28 |
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| lukma1 | Dear All, | 17:55 |
| lukma1 | I'm curious if I could create my meta layer to have my own core-image-<board_name> image to be built | 17:56 |
| lukma1 | In the core-image-<board_name> image I would "include" core-image-minimal and extend it by some extra packages | 17:56 |
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| lukma1 | is it a good practice? | 17:56 |
| lukma1 | Is it at all possible? | 17:57 |
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| lukma1 | Some info needed - is there any default way to specify dependency for *.bbappend recipe? | 22:13 |
| lukma1 | I mean I would like to specify that before I do something in the bbappend I would like to check if standard utility - e.g. sort is installed | 22:14 |
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