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| mrkiko | Hello guys... I have a question | 02:30 |
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| mrkiko | about yaffs | 02:30 |
| mrkiko | I know it's old, but I am investigating a problem of sometime ago. I mounted by mistake a non yafs partition with yafs, passing the -o ro, and I was wondering to see if there is a way i can detect yafs traces in that mtd area | 02:31 |
| mrkiko | I checked header (e.g.: starting bytes) and they seems ok | 02:31 |
| mrkiko | is this sufficient? | 02:31 |
| mrkiko | I mean - is this sufficient to establish my data as not corrupted? | 02:32 |
| mrkiko | Thank you guys, any help would be greatly apreciated | 02:36 |
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| kergoth | mrkiko: pretty off-topic | 03:12 |
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| mrkiko | problem solved, thank you guys | 03:58 |
| mrkiko | have a good day | 03:58 |
| mrkiko | thanks | 03:58 |
| mrkiko | sorry, exiting | 03:58 |
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| gartin | hi guys, I am trying to add a new task to the kernel tasks and I face a strange issue | 04:51 |
| gartin | basically I am trying to add a task in between do_patch and do_configure | 04:52 |
| gartin | here is actual error: http://pastebin.com/MNHE62Ks | 04:58 |
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| gartin | and here is the entire error I get: http://pastebin.com/vngJ1qNQ | 05:10 |
| gartin | any clues? | 05:10 |
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| mdnneo | Hi @all ... I see some strange behaviour in a custom project ... I have a package providing the packages PN, PN-dbg, PN-dev and PN-staticdef so basically a binary and a helper lib I want to use statically. If I depend on this lib in another package and build the sdk the PN and PN-dbg package end up in the target sdk ... but I would expect/need to have the dev and staticdev package? | 06:20 |
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| yann | GCCVERSION looks like a quite global setting, and KERNEL_CC does not look like it was designed for overriding - there is no support for building the kernel with a different compiler version than the rest ? | 08:07 |
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| sveinse | I have a challenge I don't know which end to approach, so bear with me: We have a tools repo, which contains tools and helpers for configuration management. It is checked out in top level. Now I need to access a tool in this repos bin/ dir during builds of an image recipe. The question is how to access it | 10:39 |
| sveinse | a) Should I add it as a layer? Can I add this layer's bin/ to PATH in layer.conf? | 10:40 |
| sveinse | b) Should I make it as a native recipe in another layer and refer to this tools repo as SRC_URI? | 10:41 |
| sveinse | c) Access the tool directly, such as ${OEROOT}/../tools/bin/mytool, and thus make all kinds of horrible path assumptions? | 10:42 |
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| rburton | for (a) i suspect extending PATH will work | 10:47 |
| rburton | so (a) or (b) should work | 10:47 |
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| sveinse | Thanks. Do you have any examples of any native recipes off hand? E.g. in poky or meta-openembedded to look at? | 10:49 |
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| rburton | oe-core is full of native recipes | 10:49 |
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| rburton | (they're just recipes that either inherit native, or use bbclassextend=native to magically inherit native) | 10:50 |
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| ZubairLK | is there an easy way to use OE-Core master/next with Yocto? | 12:31 |
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| rburton | git checkout origin/master? | 12:35 |
| newguy10 | Hi. Did anybody ran a docker daemon on qemux86-64? | 12:36 |
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| sveinse | What am I doing wrong here: https://bpaste.net/show/56abe29e1abc. It failing over not finding vsi in the install step | 12:43 |
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| rburton | use ${S}/vsi | 12:48 |
| rburton | erm, ${WORKDIR}/vsi even | 12:49 |
| rburton | as you're just putting stuff into WORKDIR (via the fetch) but install's cwd is $S, which is $WORKDIR/$PV-PN | 12:49 |
| rburton | you should also be getting a warning that S doesn't exist | 12:49 |
| sveinse | rburton: yeah, I see a lot of recipes setting S="${WORKDIR}", but isn't S set to.... yeah, right, $PV is in the default. Thanks | 12:49 |
| rburton | set S=${WORKDIR} and it will work, and do the right thing | 12:49 |
| rburton | don't set PROVIDES, call the recipe vsi-native.bb | 12:50 |
| rburton | also native.bbclass sets PACKAGES='' for you | 12:51 |
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| sveinse | Thanks! (the price to pay to copy and paste other's work) | 12:52 |
| rburton | rdepends can be removed too | 12:53 |
| sveinse | what about using FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend vs setting FILESPATH directly? | 12:54 |
| rburton | is that a convoluted way of getting to the files that are in your layer's top-level bin directory? | 12:56 |
| sveinse | yes | 12:56 |
| rburton | if so, why not move them into the recipe's directory if you're going to be installing them in a recipe | 12:56 |
| sveinse | and apparently the wrong way according to your description :P | 12:56 |
| sveinse | Because it's shared code, used by other non-yocto builds | 12:57 |
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| rburton | either works then i guess | 12:58 |
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| sveinse | But after a discussion at the office, we don't want to add a separate meta layer for the yocto native things. So we ended up making the tools repo into a layer, adding a recipes/ directory for the yocto specific bits | 12:59 |
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| sveinse | Is there an easy way to find what (native) package a future package belongs to? E.g. I'm looking for the required dependencies for python modules, and want to make sure my RDEPENDS is set right | 13:05 |
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| rburton | native stuff doesn't get packaged, its all or nothing | 13:06 |
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| rburton | well, a subset of all. no target binaries, for example. | 13:07 |
| sveinse | rburton: yeah, ok, packages as in, which RDEPENDS is needed for xyz feature | 13:07 |
| sveinse | is there a trick for grepping or finding? | 13:07 |
| rburton | not sure what you're asking | 13:08 |
| sveinse | I sorely miss ubunuts packages.ubuntu.com that can find specific files, but I do understand that yocto doesnt work like that | 13:08 |
| rburton | oe-pkgdata-utils can and does | 13:08 |
| rburton | (for target, as its *pkgdata* not sysrootdata) | 13:08 |
| rburton | remember that unless you opt-in to use native python, you use the host python, so don't need to list dependencies | 13:09 |
| sveinse | rburton: I see that python-native is built in the sysroot, so it is overloading the host python. And I need to ensure if my py module is also included. | 13:11 |
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| sveinse | E.g. import hashlib. How to know if hashlib is included into python-native. And if not, what it's "package" name is. Otherwise it would be hit and miss if all the deps required for a tool is covered.. | 13:12 |
| sveinse | Is is *probably* included into python-native, and I can easily find that out. But when the package is not built yet, you don't really know where to find things | 13:13 |
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| sveinse | (and it is included) | 13:14 |
| rburton | sveinse: python-native is *all* of python | 13:22 |
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| rburton | sveinse: as i said, python-native is opt-in. you'll notice that python *is not* on the path | 13:22 |
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| sveinse | rburton: Yes, but python is much more than just python itself. E.g. numpy. As for an example, the SDK that our devs are using is containing python: /srv/opt-16.04/poky/1.9-223/sysroots/x86_64-pokysdk-linux/usr/bin/python | 13:25 |
| rburton | sure, sdk != native | 13:25 |
| sveinse | rburton: ok... So why do I make a vsi-native tool then? | 13:26 |
| sveinse | As in: | 13:26 |
| sveinse | I want it to easily access the tool from other recipes. And if I specify vsi-natve in depends of the sdk, it will end up there also, right? | 13:27 |
| rburton | no | 13:27 |
| rburton | you'll need a nativesdk form to be in a sdk that the user can run directly | 13:28 |
| rburton | (this is where you use bbclassextend="native nativesdk") | 13:28 |
| sveinse | right | 13:28 |
| rburton | call the recipe vsi.bb, use bbclassextend, sorted. | 13:28 |
| sveinse | thanks, but my question still remains: Other than oe-pkgdata-util there is no tool for finding which package/recipe/group a file belongs to (without actually building the recipe)? | 13:31 |
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| sveinse | You see, if you are handed a larger python script that imports a lot of modules, how to determine that you have covered all RDEPENDS for it? This applies both to native as well as target | 13:33 |
| sveinse | grepping and finding and hoping for the best? | 13:34 |
| rburton | rdepends python-modules | 13:35 |
| rburton | which is a metapackage for all of python | 13:35 |
| rburton | without building the recipe you can't tell what gets built | 13:35 |
| rburton | i can't tell you from my build what your build generates | 13:35 |
| sveinse | including numpy or twisted? | 13:35 |
| rburton | no, all built-in modules. | 13:35 |
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| sveinse | precisely, so you'd need some knowledge of what modules are built-in and what is not | 13:36 |
| rburton | yes, exactly the same as with other distros tbh | 13:36 |
| rburton | random python script needs reading to determine what the dependencies are | 13:36 |
| sveinse | yes, that's easy. Figuring out to what yocto recipe is harder, as the file/module's name might not make any relationship to the recipes name | 13:37 |
| sveinse | But I get it, there is no index for this | 13:37 |
| rburton | assuming you've built everything, oe-pkgdata-tool can search for files | 13:38 |
| rburton | and when writing a recipe, recipetool will scan setuptools for dependencies if they're done Properly | 13:38 |
| sveinse | btw, are there any bitbake target that builds *every* recipe of poky (and meta-openembedded), giving a large coverage? | 13:39 |
| sveinse | With that we could build a cache to search in | 13:39 |
| jku | sveinse: "world" is pretty big | 13:40 |
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| sveinse | jku: It is. But it is also hard to find what recipes files belong to ahead of building it. | 13:41 |
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| jku | sveinse: you can very often transfer your knowledge from your host distro to your yocto based os: if apt-file tells you the package you want is python-numpy, then looking for python-numpy is very likely to give results in poky git (or https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/)... | 13:44 |
| jku | "apt-file on debian", I mean | 13:44 |
| sveinse | I'd propose building a "locate" database or something similar to packages.debian.org, to be able to give an (imperfect) overview of the files built by the layers. Devs often know what file, library or resource they need, but spend a long time finding the appropriate layer/recipe. | 13:45 |
| sveinse | jku. the oe layer index is very good | 13:46 |
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| sveinse | jku, having a files list would be nice. I do know its different for different configs, but most files are more or less the same across multiple targets, machines and tunes, so it would not be completely misleading. | 13:48 |
| sveinse | Just my 2 cents | 13:48 |
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| sveinse | Thank you, rburton :D | 13:55 |
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| ZubairLK | Hi, I'm adding a new MIPS ABI. Got things to mostly work. Except for one last thing. | 14:07 |
| ZubairLK | my rootfs doesn | 14:07 |
| ZubairLK | my rootfs doesn't have a symlink from /lib/ld.so.1 -> /lib/ld-2.23.so | 14:08 |
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| fray | what is the enw ABI? | 14:08 |
| ZubairLK | and i've added the tunings to glibc-ld.inc | 14:08 |
| ZubairLK | "mipsisa32r6": ["ld.so.1", "FLAG_ELF_LIBC6"], | 14:08 |
| ZubairLK | "mipsisa32r6el": ["ld.so.1", "FLAG_ELF_LIBC6"], | 14:08 |
| ZubairLK | mips32r6 | 14:08 |
| fray | the symlink would be created by the libc package. The links are installed as part of the soname processing.. | 14:08 |
| fray | soname links are always installed -- links to non-soname are moved to -dev packages... | 14:09 |
| fray | thats a CPU, the ABI is the same -- o32 right? | 14:09 |
| fray | 'er.. not CPU - ISA I meant | 14:09 |
| ZubairLK | yea sorry. o32/n32 is the same | 14:09 |
| fray | tune comprises a combination of ISA and ABI.. adding a revised ISA is pretty easy -- adding a revised ABI can be more challenging since all of the peices have to go together.. | 14:09 |
| fray | n32 is a MIPS64 ABI | 14:10 |
| yann | is there a way to disable inclusion a package listed in MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS, from local.conf, myimage.bb, or somewhere else ? | 14:10 |
| fray | generally mips32 is o32, MIPS64 is o32, n32 and n64.. (sorry I'm being pedantic, I want to make sure we're using the same terms -- MIPS is complicated enough) | 14:10 |
| fray | MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS_remove = "item" | 14:10 |
| ZubairLK | Its necessary to be pedantic :) | 14:11 |
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| fray | recommends can also be controlled with other items | 14:11 |
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| fray | BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS things to try to filter out of 'recommends' | 14:11 |
| fray | NO_RECOMMENDATIONS = '1' (disable recommends processing) | 14:11 |
| ZubairLK | The tuple has changed a bit. That made things a bit tricky. | 14:11 |
| ZubairLK | https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Tuples | 14:11 |
| yann | fray: ah, BAD_ is more what I'm looking for, it's a package that does not build | 14:12 |
| ZubairLK | mipsel-linux for mips32 | 14:12 |
| ZubairLK | mipsisa32r6-linux for mips32r6 | 14:12 |
| fray | build is something different (maybe). If the package does not build, I would recommend blacklisting it to prevent it from being accidently included.. | 14:12 |
| fray | PNBLACKLIST[recipe] = 'Reason for blacklist' | 14:12 |
| fray | someone is shooting -very- close by.. | 14:13 |
| fray | Hmm.. | 14:13 |
| fray | oops wrong channel (I live in the country -- it's hunting season) | 14:13 |
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| yann | fray: BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS and MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS_remove and even PACKAGE_EXCLUDE in local.conf all have no effect | 14:44 |
| fray | black list it. The blacklist message will tell you where the dependency is | 14:45 |
| sveinse | If I use BBCLASSEXTEND = "native nativesdk", I see from grepping the tmp/ files, that it builds it for my MACHINE. If I inherit native, it builds it for native. Why is that? | 14:48 |
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| yann | ah, packagegroup-base turns RRECOMMENDS into RDEPENDS, even when they are also in PACKAGE_EXCLUDE of BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS ? | 14:50 |
| yann | s/of/or/ | 14:50 |
| yann | funny, blacklist also prevents the package to be cleaned :) | 14:53 |
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| yann | ok, blacklist works, after cleaning the partial build | 14:55 |
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| seebs | > I'd suggest we put these messages into some log file or somewhere other than the main terminal window as they cause significant concern for the user. So doing nothing isn't an option | 15:35 |
| seebs | You're right. Clearly we need to do something. What if we tell the user to stop being such a crybaby? | 15:35 |
| seebs | ... hmm. | 15:35 |
| seebs | Okay, I concede this may not be a good marketing plan, anyway. | 15:36 |
| fray | with the reproducer from Robert, do you think it's a real problem or just a spurious collision/error message that is recovered? | 15:36 |
| seebs | My current suspicion is that we had an actual problem causing failures (the docker thing), but that this form is a harmless(-ish) race condition thing. I'd still like to poke a bit. The lock_held thing is unthreatening; it's the timeouts that were worrisome. | 15:38 |
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| seebs | I think the answer is probably to try to move the pseudo_debug_logfile() thing WAY up in the code, but still contingent on opt_d. | 15:40 |
| fray | I've not looked at that code in the last few months, after the child error, IS the connection retried, or does the collision cause a problem? | 15:41 |
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| seebs | I think we retry up to ~50 times, still. | 15:41 |
| fray | if it is retried, then it is a harmless race (in fact one we expect could happen) | 15:41 |
| seebs | Not that it comes up much anymore. | 15:41 |
| fray | ya.. so as long as it's retried.. then logging it earlier would fix the real issue.. | 15:42 |
| ZubairLK | For some reason I find it necessary to do a bitbake -c do_clean linux-yocto before the right defconfig is applied to it? has anybody else seen this phenomena? | 15:42 |
| ZubairLK | Usually happens if I change something and the kernel needs to be recompiled. Instead of the right defconfig in my bbappend. It tries to compile the default | 15:42 |
| seebs | So, the client invokes daemon with -d. If we made the logfile switch implicit at that point, I think that would solve it. | 15:42 |
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| fray | seems reasonable | 15:43 |
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| seebs | I am not totally sure, there's some quirks. | 15:44 |
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| fishey1 | Do folks see it as reasonable to have a bunch of deploy-only recipes where there only deps are via task dependencies on other do_deploy tasks? | 17:36 |
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