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| yann | when a change in the sysroot causes that "bitbake -c unpack -f foo; bitbake foo" creates a different .ipk (as seen through its deps in deploy/ipk), what will cause the old foo.ipk (with the old deps) to get back into deploy/ipk ? | 11:14 |
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| yann | (working around that by bumping PR, but I'd like to understand) | 11:15 |
| rburton | sounds like foo has non-deterministic dependencies and is finding more pieces it can link against in the sysroot | 11:18 |
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| newguy10 | Hi All. I am running an qemux86-64 image . I want to enable it for connection to internet. How can I do that? | 12:54 |
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| CTtpollard | newguy10: you might have to be a bit more specific than that? Are you asking about passing network connect to it from your host machine? | 12:56 |
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| newguy10 | CTpollard: I have installed docker in qemux86-64 using smart. So inorder to get docker images I want qemux86-64 , connect to the net. Can you tell me how it is possible for it(qemu) to connect to net through host machine? | 13:03 |
| rburton | newguy10: http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking | 13:08 |
| rburton | runqemu uses tap by default | 13:08 |
| rburton | so you likely just need to set a DNS in /etc/resolv.conf | 13:09 |
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| newguy10 | rburton:Thanks. I will look into that. | 13:11 |
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| eduardas_m | Hello. It seems POCO library bitbake recipie was not present in FSL community BSP Fido release. I was wondering how can one conveniently find out when a certain recipie was added to Yocto? I can not see such info on the OE layers page. | 13:40 |
| eduardas_m | i.e. I want to find out into which yocto release the POCO libraries were included for the first time | 13:40 |
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| eduardas_m | https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/45079/ | 13:42 |
| fishey1 | for nativesdk packages, are they supposed to be able to depend on native (not sdk) packages? If so, what is the right way to get LDFLAGS set properly? Just append -L${STAGING_LIBDIR_NATIVE} ? | 13:42 |
| eduardas_m | the page I showed does not say: is POCO included since Jethro or Krogoth? how can I easily tell? | 13:43 |
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| fishey1 | It seems like just adding the `-L` to link in libs from a native package isn't quite right: bitbake complains about the generated binaries lacking providers for those libraries (file-rdeps) | 15:14 |
| fishey1 | Seems like nativesdk packages should only depend on other nativesdk packages? | 15:14 |
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| fishey1 | If it helps, the background here is that I'm trying to get nativesdk-qt4-tools (from meta-qt4) to build | 15:17 |
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| fishey1 | Hmm... if the -native package is using STAGING_LIBDIR_NATIVE and STAGING_INCDIR_NATIVE (to search for libs & includes), what would be appropriate for a nativesdk package? | 15:24 |
| kergoth | yes, nativesdk can only depend on other nativesdk packages, and you don't need to add any -I/-L, we pass —sysroot= to the compiler and linker for you | 15:25 |
| kergoth | as long as you're obeying our CC/LD variables and whatnot, you're fine | 15:26 |
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| Ox4 | Good evening :) | 15:30 |
| Ox4 | is it possible to inherit my new layer from existed one? | 15:30 |
| kergoth | that doesn't really make sense. | 15:31 |
| kergoth | you can create a new layer that depends on another layer. is that not good enough? | 15:31 |
| Ox4 | yes, it is | 15:32 |
| Ox4 | thank you | 15:33 |
| Ox4 | where can I read about dependencies? | 15:33 |
| kergoth | i'm guessing you can search either the mega manual or bitbake manual for LAYERDEPENDS | 15:33 |
| Ox4 | great, thank you kergoth | 15:33 |
| kergoth | but you just set LAYERDEPENDS_yourlayername = "anotherlayername asecondlayername", where the names are what goes into BBFILE_COLLECTIONS in the different layer.conf files | 15:34 |
| kergoth | np | 15:34 |
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| seebs | Someone identified a bug in pseudo and submitted a patch to poky@. The bug, and patch, are both correct and it's merged in master. | 15:58 |
| seebs | So there was a hilariously stupid bug in rename(), and I never fixed it in renameat(), which no one noticed because who would use renameat()? | 15:59 |
| kergoth | ha | 15:59 |
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| seebs | For some reason, long ago, probably 2012-2013 or earlier, I concluded that tests for "existing file with the name rename wants to rename to" and "existing database entry for the file being renamed" were logically equivalent. | 16:00 |
| seebs | I can't really explain how I could have reached such a conclusion. | 16:00 |
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| neverpanic | seebs: out of curiosity, which tool did actually use openat() and uncovered tis? | 16:50 |
| neverpanic | Because I've never seen openat(2) in the wild | 16:50 |
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| seebs | not openat, renameat. And I don't know. | 17:35 |
| seebs | I know I had renameat() dummied out to abort if called for a couple of years. | 17:35 |
| seebs | But we did finally hit it sometime before 2013. | 17:36 |
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| mrk377 | Quick question: It trying to save disk space during compiles, are there flags or options to reduce build artifacts (*.o, *.so, unnecessary images)? All I need is the *.direct images. Ideas? | 17:39 |
| mrk377 | I'm | 17:39 |
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| kergoth | rm_work is the first step, otherwise the unpacked source trees, etc hang out during and after the build, which takes up way m ore space than a duplicated image | 17:40 |
| kergoth | RP: wondering if the task elapsed time should be suffixed with ' elapsed'. when you're seeing the first ton of tasks going 0s/1s, it's not entirely clear what it's talking about | 17:42 |
| kergoth | RP: uh, is it expected that there aren't task progress bars anymore? I'm no longer seeing a linux-yocto do_fetch progress bar, only an elapsed time. haven't seen a single task progress bar since is tarted this build.. | 17:44 |
| kergoth | hmm | 17:44 |
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| kergoth | Hmm, best way to debug a taskhash mismatch after the fact? there's no sigdata for both of them, just one | 18:20 |
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| mrk377 | kergoth: We use a gitlab runner (*.yml file) that caches (stores) the following directories (build/cache, build/downloads, build/sstate-cache) to save time for each yocto build. Could these directories be pruned further to save space/time while recreating environment each time or would setting up a local repository prove faster? Just wondering what other project do. Thx | 18:31 |
| neverpanic | mrk377: sstate-cache and downloads available via network and configure them as sstate mirror and premirror; bitbake will only fetch what it needs | 18:32 |
| neverpanic | mrk377: add a "make " in front to make the sentence parse | 18:33 |
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| mrk377 | panic: Thx. looking at that now. | 18:38 |
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| Ulfalizer | how does the cache/ thingy work anyway? does it hash the text in the file, reparsing it if it changes? | 18:52 |
| mario-goulart | mrk377: don't forget to set BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS (useful for git repositories) | 18:52 |
| Ulfalizer | looks like that might be it. adding a single character to a comment gives | 18:54 |
| Ulfalizer | Parsing of 867 .bb files complete (866 cached, 1 parsed). 1318 targets, 50 skipped, 0 masked, 0 errors. | 18:54 |
| mrk377 | mario: if you set BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS = "1", then will every downloaded source code package create a tar.gz that can be stored in a local repo? Just checkin' | 18:56 |
| Ulfalizer | mrk377: looks like it's just for git repositories | 18:57 |
| Ulfalizer | so that people can fetch them from the download cache instead of cloning them | 18:57 |
| Ulfalizer | svn repositories are cached in the download directory in other, trickier ways | 18:59 |
| mario-goulart | Actually, bitbake implicitly creates tarballs for svn repos | 19:00 |
| Ulfalizer | ah, yeah, had forgotten it did that too | 19:00 |
| mario-goulart | Or at least it used to do that. Don't know about the current version. | 19:00 |
| Ulfalizer | it also stores a checkout of the repo in the download dir to help generate the tarballs | 19:01 |
| Ulfalizer | but i'm a bit murky on the details | 19:01 |
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| Ulfalizer | bluelightning: do you know if it's correct that the metadata cache/ simply stores a hash of raw file contents and reparses files when it changes? | 19:06 |
| Ulfalizer | seems to work that way from some quick experimentation, but thought i'd confirm. made it seem a lot less magical to me, so i could submit a small doc. patch. | 19:06 |
| bluelightning | Ulfalizer: there are several things in cache/, one of which is the recipe cache | 19:06 |
| Ulfalizer | yeah, saw some "dependency cache" in the bitbake output too | 19:07 |
| fishey1 | I'm seeing `ERROR: local variable 'value' referenced before assignment` on my automated build machine, with only the task (openjdk-8-native_102b14.bb:do_fetch) given on the next error line. Is there a way to get more information on the source of the error? | 19:07 |
| bluelightning | well, AFAIK the dependency cache and the recipe cache would be the same thing | 19:07 |
| Ulfalizer | alright... maybe i could keep it vagueish and only mention the recipe reparsing bit | 19:08 |
| fishey1 | like, say, a line number for something? | 19:08 |
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| bluelightning | fishey1: which version of the build system are you using? are you using poky or separate bitbake + oe-core? | 19:09 |
| fishey1 | bluelightning: poky. latest master. | 19:10 |
| bluelightning | hmm... someone else reported this but I was unable to track down what was causing it there either | 19:10 |
| fishey1 | well, latest from 6 hours ago | 19:10 |
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| bluelightning | I couldn't find *any* code where we refer to a variable "value" without first assigning it | 19:11 |
| bluelightning | of course it must be there somewhere... | 19:11 |
| Ulfalizer | fishey1: one thing you could try is 'bitbake -e openjdk-8-native' and searching for 'value' in the output. all the function bodies are listed near the end. | 19:14 |
| Ulfalizer | that might find it if it's from the metadata | 19:14 |
| Ulfalizer | maybe \<value\> can be used to search for it as a word | 19:14 |
| Ulfalizer | or save it and do grep -w | 19:15 |
| fishey1 | Ulfalizer: ok, I'll try that out. | 19:15 |
| Ulfalizer | could start tracing from the body of do_fetch | 19:15 |
| * Ulfalizer just added some docs to the reference manual to mention that bitbake -e includes the function bodies | 19:16 | |
| Ulfalizer | that's pretty handy to know | 19:16 |
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| Ulfalizer | hmz... i wonder if the cache just looks at the access time or something like that | 19:50 |
| * Ulfalizer vagueifies some more | 19:50 | |
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| Ulfalizer | in what cases would 'raise bb.build.FuncFailed("msg")' be preferred over bb.fatal("msg")? | 22:40 |
| Ulfalizer | looks like the argument to FuncFailed() was originally meant to be the name of the function, only no one uses it like that. still called 'name'. :S | 22:41 |
| neverpanic | Doesn't bb.fatal internally throw an exception? Is that FuncFailed or a different one? | 22:42 |
| Ulfalizer | it's BBHandledException(), which seems to mean "we've already shown the user the information they need, so don't show them any more" | 22:42 |
| Ulfalizer | maybe FuncFailed() is for functions in [pre/postfuncs] and similar, when you don't want the entire task to fail, if bb.fatal() would do that | 22:43 |
| Ulfalizer | that seems weird though... | 22:43 |
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| Ulfalizer | looks like something somewhere might throw a FuncFailed when you use bb.fatal() too, because you get "Function failed:" in the output, and that's what FuncFailed adds too. | 22:55 |
| kergoth | the *original* intent was for the function/task to error via whatever appropriate means, bb.fatal, whatever, and funcfailed was what you'd catch if you were calling exec_func/exec_task. that is, it's what those functions raise, not what metadata functions should be raising | 22:56 |
| kergoth | it didn't end up being used that way | 22:56 |
| kergoth | but there's really never a reason to raise it yourself | 22:56 |
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| Ulfalizer | ok, thanks for the clarification | 23:03 |
| Ulfalizer | kergoth: mind if i quote that on the OE-core mailing list? | 23:04 |
| kergoth | fine with me | 23:05 |
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