Friday, 2017-01-13

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sveinseAre deb Depends used to determine what is going to be installed?00:03
sveinseBecause my sstate cache uim_*.deb does not depend on libanthy0, so it seems that is the cause why it isn't installed00:03
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RPsveinse: not so far fetched, something like this could do that. You could compare the uim packages, maybe one has some dependencies the other does not? or different postinstalls? If the image manifests are the same I am little surprised though as dependencies would be most likely to do this.00:20
RPsveinse: it could be the postinstalls have some dependency on the sysroot tools and might be deferred to boot time in one case but not the other perhaps?00:20
RPsveinse: I'm just guessing though00:21
sveinseRP, I do know by now the uim deb  are different00:21
sveinseand that it does not depend on libanthy0 in the version in the sstate cache00:21
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sveinseThis is caused by an addition --with-anthy-utf8 in uim's EXTRA_OECONF. However, I though the sstate checksum would change for that, so I'm comparing hash ids right now00:23
sveinseI see that the non-sstate build of uim produces an equal stamp hash id for do_package_write_deb as the sstate version does for do_package_write_deb_setscene...00:25
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sveinseRP, they agree on sstate cache ID, but disagree on the contents. The .tgz from the central sstate cache is different as the locally built sstate cache, but with the same hash...00:36
sveinsethe siginfo file is equal00:37
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Ramosenrossi: Hello, yesterday I was able to compile "bitbake qtwebengine" but somehow I didn't find any of the examples got build with it.07:01
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nrossiRamose: qtwebengine-examples package?07:29
nrossiRamose: I remember last time I used qtwebengine i don't think the examples were enabled by default. But this was qt4 or something07:29
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Ramosenrossi: I tried building it bitbake qtwebengine-examples07:30
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Ramosebut didn't get anything07:30
Ramoselet me try again07:30
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nrossiRamose: you cant build packages like that, only recipes qtwebengine should generate the qtwebengine-examples package if they are enabled07:31
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Ramosenrossi: But then how should I enbale it07:31
RamoseI place it in meta-qt5-mel/recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-qt5.bb07:32
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Ramosenrossi; under RDEPENDS_${PN} +=07:32
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nrossiRamose: Not sure tbh, the qtwebkit recipe uses the PACKAGECONFIG 'examples'07:35
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Ramosenrossi: Am I missing something like meta-qt5-mel/recipes/qt5/qtwebkit_%.bbappend ?07:38
RamoseI mean I should same for qtwebengine ?07:38
nrossiRamose: looks like all you need to do is add 'examples' to PACKAGECONFIG.
Ramosenrossi; Let me try07:40
nrossiRamose: sorry wrong link ->
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Ramosenrossi: I am confused now :(07:42
nrossiRamose: when you add 'examples' to PACKAGECONFIG of qtwebengine, it will add "QT_BUILD_PARTS+=examples" to the configure, which should trigger the build of examples07:43
nrossiRamose: adding PACKAGECONFIG_pn-qtwebengine_append = " examples" in your local.conf should do the trick07:43
nrossiRamose: sorry, wrong way around, PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-qtwebengine*07:44
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Ramosenrossi: ok I placed PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-qtwebengine = " examples" in  build/conf/local.conf07:48
Ramoselets see now07:49
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Ramosenrossi: it didn't work , This is where I have my packages included
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nrossiRamose: did it error? or just no files?07:56
Ramosenrossi: bitbake qtwebengine run well but not files in tmp/work/coretex.....07:57
Ramoselet me try it again07:58
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nrossiRamose: check the log.do_compile for qtwebengine, grep for "examples" see if it is even trying to build them07:59
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Ramosenrossi: No , there is no string "examples" in log.do_compile of qtwebengine08:04
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Ramosenrossi: this line PACKAGES =. "${PN}-qmlplugins-dbg ${PN}-tools-dbg ${PN}-plugins-dbg ${PN}-qmldesigner ${PN}-qmlplugins ${PN}-tools ${PN}-plugins ${PN}-mkspecs ${PN}-examples-dev ${PN}-examples-staticdev ${PN}-examples-dbg ${PN}-examples " already there in qt5.inc08:08
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Ramosenrossi: but I do see this ./log.do_configure.32590:NOTE: QA Issue: qtwebengine: invalid PACKAGECONFIG: examples [invalid-packageconfig] when I grep -r "examples" . in qtwebengine/5.5.0+gitAUTOINC+qtwebengine-r0/temp folder08:12
nrossiRamose: Hmmm thats odd, run bitbake qtwebengine -e and pipe to a file, then search for PACKAGECONFIG and look at the flags for [examples]08:15
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sveinseHow come my central sstate cache and my locally built package disagree on the package's files, yet with the same hash ID?08:47
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sveinseI have to investigate this because ultimately it challenges our trust in the sstate cache for production environments :(08:48
rburtonsveinse: non-deterministic builds08:49
rburtoneasily solved08:49
rburtonlook at what files are different, then look at the build which controls those files, identify what codepaths are automatically detected08:50
rburtonlike the might see if libfoo is present and enable building something08:50
rburtonthen the presence of libfoo in the sysroot will change the output, but if it isn't listed as a build dep then bitbake has no way of knowing that changes the build08:50
rburtonRPs recipe specific sysroots work makes this disappear, btw08:51
sveinserburton: The package is uim, and it does use configure. So it can be a change in the sysroot which would pass undetected into the stateinfo?08:51
rburtonits fairly common for to do something like AC_CHECK_LIBS to see if a library is present and then enable/disable building more code automatically08:52
rburtonthere's a script in oe-core to exercise the builds to detect this08:52
rburtonit basically does a world build, rebuilds everthing with a full sysroot, then rebuilds everything with an empty sysroot.  any changes are bugs.08:53
sveinserburton: I'm curious, why isn't the hashsum of the sstate artefact stored? With it you could at least validize its contents as a part of siginfo08:53
sveinseWe've had problems with uim before. We had to disable parallel installs, because it fails occationally on massive parallel builds08:54
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pohlyIs there a possibility to enter the SeaBIOS setup when running it under qemu? I can attach to the console with xvncviewer, but by the time I do that, it already started booting.08:57
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sveinseSo as a QA initiative, we could do a non-sstate cache build and compare the local sstate cache with the central sstate cache?08:58
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rburtonsveinse: bitbake myimage-with-has-uim-in ; bitbake uim ; wipe-sysroot ; bitbake uim -C unpack; buildhistory-diff09:00
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sveinserburton: the problem is that I don't have any information about the package stored in the central sstate cache. I don't have its build logs09:00
rburtonignore that, you can replicate the problem locally09:01
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sveinserburton: yup, I'll try that. I think I see where you're going with this: That uim gets some leakage from the other recipes from the same build09:05
rburtonthe sysroot is full of stuff that uim can decide to use09:06
sveinseIf this is the case, then RPs fix is the only way round. Or is there a way to instruct yocto to wipe the sysroot cache from the recipe?09:07
rburtonRPs improvement is the one true fix09:09
rburtoncurrently, its a bug if the recipe doesn't control the build09:09
rburtonyou'll notice that oe-core has several recipes where we add enable/disable toggled to stop this behaviour09:09
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sveinserburton, can you name one recipe where this is used?09:32
RPsveinse: we do store information about the hash in the siginfo/sigdata files, those tell us how its constructed. We checksum the inputs (the configuration and variables that were used to configure the build), not the output.09:33
sveinseRP, I understand that. And of course, it would not matter if you're doing a build and you fetch artefacts from the sstate cache. But with it I could compare two sstate caches. ..hmm, which I can anyways just by comparing files, because both would be correct. Yeah, forget it09:37
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sveinseIs RPs fix a simple fix that can be cherry picked into an older poky (jethro)?09:38
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RPsveinse: its not even in master yet, still a work in progress09:41
RPsveinse: nobody would describe it as simple09:41
sveinseRP: ok, thanks09:42
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Ramosenrossi: I set it up again and run bitbake qtwebengine and see this ERROR: QA Issue: Package version for package qtwebengine-examples went backwards which would break package feeds from (0:5.5.0+git0+qtwebengine-r0.2 to 0:5.5.0+git0+qtwebengine-r0.1) [version-going-backwards]10:07
nrossiRamose: not really sure what you have done, but looks like something is not cleaned properly?10:12
Ramosenrossi: yeah, after cleansstate I don't see this10:14
Ramosenrossi: there is no qtwebengine-examples folder yet10:15
Ramosenrossi: Actually I needed to run a QT based webrowser on target , for same I tried fancybrowser that comes with qtwebkit-examples but some how not able to play any video into it10:17
Ramoselike youtube or .ogg files10:18
Ramoseso I thought of trying fancybrowser that comes with qtwebengines10:18
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nrossiRamose: does the gstreamer you build (which is used by qtwebkit) support the target codecs you need?10:21
Ramosenrossi: sorry but how do I check it ?10:22
nrossiRamose: gstreamer-inspect to check available codecs, and mediainfo to check your .ogg format. Youtube has a "detailed info" on the right click that shows the codec being used10:24
Ramosenrossi: something this ?10:25
nrossiRamose: that works too10:25
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Ramosenrossi: let me check on target fancybrowser10:26
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Ramosenrossi: I am seeing this on target when runs youtube ** (fancybrowser:663): WARNING **: add element stream10:30
nrossiRamose: ok now you are probably entering webkit bug territory.10:32
Ramoseyeah , kind of10:33
nrossiRamose: if i remember correctly, qtwebkit is deprecated since 5.5. So yer... :), maybe back to qtwebengine?10:33
Ramosebut there kind of not able to get any examples to run10:34
Ramosecodec on target looks to be avc1.420001E10:34
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nrossiRamose: so you were able to build the examples?10:37
Ramosenross: No, only qtwebkit-examples10:38
RamoseI am able to buikd10:38
Ramosebut qtwebengine-examples not building10:39
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Ramosenrossi: I can see qtwebkit-examples has its own recipe file10:43
Ramoselike qtwebkit-examples.bb10:43
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poor-manHello everyone11:14
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poor-manI'm trying to make a basic yocto image for qemu using toaster, but when I add a new recipe I got "DEBUG runbuilds: No build env" on the toaster log. I've set the enviroment with the "source oe-init-build-env" command11:16
poor-manany ideas why I get this?11:17
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graphiqsare you running toaster from the same enviroment you sourced the buildenv?12:20
poor-man"source oe-init-build-env" and then "source toaster start"12:28
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Ramosenrossi: its just strange I just couldn't find any *.o file from inside build/tmp/work/cortexa9hf-vfp-neon-nt-linux-gnueabi/qtwebengine/5.5.0+gitAUTOINC+qtwebengine-r012:50
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kanavinpython 2.8, pleas no13:11
kanavin"The appearance of a "Python 2.8" got the attention of the Python core developers in early December.  It is based on Python 2.7, with features backported from Python 3.x.  In general, there was little support for the effort—core developers tend to clearly see Python 3 as the way forward—but no opposition to it either.  The Python license makes it clear that these kinds of efforts are legal and even encouraged—any real opposition to the project lies in13:12
kanavincan't get to the lwn article, anyone has a direct link?
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kanavinneverpanic: cheers13:14
neverpanictl;dr: 1man project, will get different name, there's not going to be Python 2.813:14
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kanavinneverpanic: except there's a ton of people and companies who are complacent about moving to python 3, and may coalesce around this13:16
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kanavin(Yocto is not one of them)13:16
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RPwe've taken the python3 pain on the most part now apart from smart..13:26
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kanavinRP: dnf stack has a configure switch --with-python=3, which I'm not yet using :)13:30
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RPkanavin: right, I know you're working on that :)13:33
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RPhmm, how to detect in a recipe when -b is being used :/13:48
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Strike5150Hello,  I've built a image recipe and on genericx86 some packages are not being included in the rootfs.  What are some of the obvious things I should look for?13:57
RPStrike5150: something in the image you're building would need to have a dependency on them13:57
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Strike5150RP:  So the package is included using IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " xxxx"13:59
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Strike5150RP:  Normally that should suffice?  I'm noticeing that the package is being built under core2 when machine type is set to genericx8613:59
RPStrike5150: perhaps check IMAGE_INSTALL has the value you think it has with bitbake <image> -e ?13:59
Strike5150RP: IMAGE_INSTALL lists the package as being included, its also part of the rootfs.manifest14:01
RPStrike5150: in which case it should be part of the image. Does the package contain files or is it empty?14:03
Strike5150RP: The package has a size so assume its got the content intended14:05
Strike5150RP: The strange thing though is the package is under core2-32-poky-linux/ not built under genericx86-poky-linux/14:06
Strike5150RP: I don't know if this is normal14:06
Strike5150RP: by size I mean roughly what I would expect normally14:06
RPStrike5150: that is normal if the package isn't machine specfiic which most aren;t14:06
Strike5150RP: I could post the gist of image environment if that helps?14:07
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RPStrike5150: Does the package manager within image think the package is installed? Do the rootfs task logs show the package being installed?14:09
Strike5150RP: I  don't know where to find the package manager logs14:10
Strike5150RP: I'll check the task logs14:10
RPStrike5150: which package backend are you using?14:11
Strike5150rp: debian14:11
Strike5150rp: deb :D14:11
RPStrike5150: so /var/lib/dpkg/status in the rootfs or you could query with apt/dpkg14:11
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Strike5150RP: ok i'll do that now, sorry was distracted by co-workers :|14:18
Strike5150RP: According to /var/lib/dpkg/status the package was installed and status is ok14:20
RPStrike5150: ok, you really need to look inside the .deb and check it has what you think it has in it then14:21
Strike5150RP: But in rootfs log it clearly shows its only installing package-dbg not package14:21
RPStrike5150: the status file is definitive, if it says its installed, I'd suspect it was14:21
Strike5150RP: I know there are no files defined for the dbg package yet14:21
Strike5150RP: I will also double check I got the right one14:22
Strike5150RP: The image/rootfs/var/lib/dpkg/status date the file was touched is from yesterday14:23
Strike5150RP: Not from todays build14:24
RPStrike5150: it would only rebuild if it thought something had changed and it needed to?14:25
Strike5150RP: I've changed the contents yes, also the package definitely has the files in it14:27
Strike5150RP: So just to verify, the image rootfs is in genericx86(machine type) and in there the rootfs/var/lib/dpkg/status says packageA is installed, but looking at temp/log.do_rootfs shows its only installing packageA-dbg which has no files in it14:30
RPStrike5150: are you sure there isn't a mention of packageA somewhere else in that log?14:30
Strike5150RP: I will double check14:31
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Strike5150RP: Ok your are right, there is mention of packageA and packageA-dbg14:31
Strike5150RP: I am using wic to make a direct image, is it possible I've made a mistake in that step?14:32
Strike5150RP: Could be the image is fine14:32
RPStrike5150: its possible. somewhere along the line something is going wrong and that could be it14:33
Strike5150RP: I've just dpkg --get-selections on the running image and it thinks the package is installed too but the files are missing, I need to think a bit :D.  I will yell when I have something more sensible to say14:34
Strike5150RP: Thanks for the help so far o/14:35
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RPStrike5150: np, something isn't adding up...14:36
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sveinseHm, I get InvalidGitRepositoryError when I'm trying to use buildhistory-diff. What am I missing?14:59
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rburtonpohly: i see 1/2 rm_work: allow preserving additional context, but no 2/215:03
ntlsveinse: check whether BUILDHISTORY_COMMIT = "1" ?15:04
sveinseI have confirmed that uim produces different result when being run in an image vs. when being run after wipe-sysroot; bitbake uim -C unpack. What should I do next?15:04
pohlyrburton: the other commit was for meta-swupd - I should have formatted the patch differently.15:04
rburtonsveinse: read the uim makefiles, etc and figure out how to fix it.  you may need to pass an option, or patch the, or something else.15:05
rburtonsveinse: or, just add the dependency that causes the change to DEPENDS so its always present15:05
rburtonpohly: ok, thanks15:05
sveinserburton: you mentioned a trick for configure that was applied on other oe recipes like this?15:06
pohlyrburton: about the earlier rm_work enhancements: you currently have those in your mut branch, but the implementation based on prioritized anonymous functions needs to be replaced. V2 just sent, but it depends on RP's event patch, which hasn't been finalized yet.15:07
rburtonsveinse: if you want to be able to control the dependency then you need to use AC_ARG_ENABLE in to make it deterministic, but if you just want to have it on always then just add the dependencies that you find are not listed15:08
sveinserburton: right, thanks. I'm investigating now15:08
rburtonpohly: yeah just noticed the v2, ripped out of the branch now15:09
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maxinmario-goulart: hi15:43
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khemis gh clone working today ?16:39
khem git clone git:// ended with fatal: remote error16:40
nrossikhem: major service outage?16:40
khem08:14 PSTMajor service outage.16:41
khemthats like 1/2 hr back16:42
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Crofton|workseems to ahve come back16:44
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khemif github disappears what will we do ?16:45
khemit will be like stone age16:45
Crofton|workwell, we just find somewhere else to push our code16:45
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kanavinkhem: gitlab and bitbucket are both superior to github16:51
aratiukanavin: why are they superior? :)16:52
kanavinaratiu: because I tried them both and liked them better than github :)16:52
khemgitlab is good as long as its not on my infra16:54
khemits a pig16:54
aratiugitolite is the best16:54
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khemOK locked python3 to 3.5 on arch for now17:33
Crofton|workERROR: mtd-utils-2.0.0-r0 do_install: Function failed: do_install (log file is located at /home/balister/src/oe-core/build/tmp-glibc/work/cortexa9hf-neon-oe-linux-gnueabi/mtd-utils/2.0.0-r0/temp/log.do_install.14252)17:36
Crofton|workjsut blew up on me17:36
Crofton|work| make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/balister/src/oe-core/build/tmp-glibc/work/cortexa9hf-neon-oe-linux-gnueabi/mtd-utils/2.0.0-r0/build'17:37
Crofton|work| install: cannot stat 'ubi-utils/include/libubi.h': No such file or directory17:37
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jamespI see there will be a Yocto Developer Day North America 2017 on February 24th, an addon to the ELC/IOT NA conference. - is this all the published information there is on it so far? Kind of curious who all will be there.17:47
Crofton|workDev Day is more a training thing17:49
Crofton|worknot sue if the schedule is up17:49
Crofton|workWe also have on Monday17:49
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Crofton|workthis is the schedule from the last one
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jamespIt's promised that there will be an Introductory Track (tracking) as well as the advanced track (which I'm interested in), which is partly training, demo, and reveal of features to come.... that's what interests me.17:50
Crofton|workther are the actual schedules from the last two17:50
jamespI did attend the 2017 NA one in San Diego. It was good.17:50
Crofton|workI would expect something similar17:51
Crofton|workunelss someone wants to correct me :)17:51
jamespAgenda for Advanced Track (from
jamesp- New Workflows in the Latest Release of the Yocto Project17:52
jamesp- Deep Dive and Class Exercises on Devtool and ESDK17:52
jamesp- WIC17:53
jamesp- Brief Tour of Meta-Security17:53
jamesp- Deep Dive Presentation and Demo on CROPS17:53
jamesp- BitBake Event Model - The Data Source for Toaster17:53
jamesp- New Script17:53
jamesp- Kernel Roundup17:53
jamesp- User Space17:53
jamesp- Build History and Bitbake-diffsigs17:53
jamesp- Q&A17:53
kanavinrburton: the mystery of shell not finding things in PATH is solved :)17:53
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kanavinrburton: rpm covertly chroots into image's rootfs17:54
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jamespCrofton|work, thanks for the OE Dev meeting heads-up... I will see if I can arrange to attend.18:07
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Crofton|workjamesp, I spammed the lists with an email18:19
Crofton|workand if you have dieas for the agenda, add them to the wiki18:19
Crofton|workwe'll triage closer to the meeting18:19
Crofton|workI need to link the minutes from the last one to that page18:20
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davisif I wanted to build selinux with gdb symbols so I could debug its usage in a devshell, how would I do that?18:27
davisim familiar with debug symbols on my target, but not debug symbols on my build system18:27
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khemdavis: are you looking for cross debugging ?20:07
khemotherwise just add selinux-dbg to IMAGE_INSTALL20:08
khemor use online package management to install it if you have configured it on target20:08
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daviskhem, no i am trying to debug why i have a failing bui8ld in one file system but not in another with identical source20:13
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davisi always appreciate your help, so any advice is much appreciated20:16
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #430 of nightly-checkuri is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at
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clsullivis the autobuilder not publishing nightly images right now?23:44
clsullivI'm seeing that core-image-sato-sdk intel-core* wic images increased by ~1GB recently, and wanted to confirm whether its a meta-intel or generic change that caused that23:46
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rburtoni don't make it publish mut builds at least23:47
rburtonid be shocked if that were a meta-intel issue23:47
rburtonwhen is "recently"?23:47
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clsullivin the last month it looks like23:47
rburtonalso, worth comparing the size of the tar.gz in case its the wic image and not the contents which is changing23:48
rburtontheres a wiki page with size metrics in that i can never find23:48
rburtongot to go to bed now, throw me a mail if you can't find anything :)23:49
halsteadclsulliv, Do you need a build with published artifacts? I could start one.23:55
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