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| marquiz | RP: yeah, i saw the fix | 07:07 |
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| marquiz | RP: when i had the chance to take a look at my git bicect results on saturday i noticed that you had already fixed the problem :) | 07:07 |
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| Guest1016 | Hi There. I got a question on oe_runmake. if I configure EXTRA_OEMAKE = "'CC=${CC}' ... bitbake says "not found" cause ${CC} is the string "i586-poky-linux-gcc -m32 -march=i586 --sysroot=/home/..." and there is of course no file with this name | 08:49 |
| Guest1016 | what am I doing wrong? | 08:50 |
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| RP | marquiz: sadly the times don't look much better for the changes :( | 08:54 |
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| Guest1016 | Hi. is there anyone out there who could answer me a question? | 09:04 |
| Guest1016 | about oe_runmake and its configuration | 09:05 |
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| marquiz | RP: yup :( | 09:09 |
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| Guest1016 | could you tell me whats going wrong when i do CC=${CC} like it is stated in the documentation but bitbake means "not found" ? | 09:12 |
| Guest1016 | please | 09:13 |
| jku | Guest1016: there's something else going wrong. That same construct is used in many yocto recipes | 09:14 |
| Guest1016 | yeah i saw that and because of that i wonder | 09:15 |
| Guest1016 | it looks like oe_runmake tries to start "i586-poky-linux-gcc -m32 -march=i586 --sysroot=/home/..." | 09:16 |
| Guest1016 | and not i586-poky-linux-gcc with the parameters "-m32 -march=i586 --sysroot=/home/..." | 09:17 |
| Guest1016 | you think it is a fault inside the environment of bitbake? | 09:18 |
| jku | I doubt it | 09:18 |
| jku | are you sure that is what's happening? can you pastebin the recipe and the log? | 09:19 |
| Guest1016 | or the buildhost | 09:19 |
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| Guest1016 | recipe: http://pastebin.com/MFjNYv0d | 09:27 |
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| Guest1016 | Log: http://pastebin.com/ZLNqX3U0 | 09:30 |
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| Guest1016 | what do you think about it? | 09:42 |
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| rburton | morning | 10:06 |
| Guest1016 | hi | 10:06 |
| jku | Guest63917: I believe CC value is 'correct' as in the makefile is expected to cope with that and normally they do... | 10:08 |
| jku | oops sorry, I mean Guest1016 | 10:08 |
| Guest1016 | ah ok. but why it fails then | 10:09 |
| Guest1016 | and what is not found | 10:10 |
| Guest1016 | if i say CC=i586-poky-linux-gcc it compiles but stoppes caust the headerfiles arnt found | 10:11 |
| jku | your Makefile probably does something that expects CC to be a filename. I don't see anything that points to headers not being found | 10:11 |
| Guest1016 | but that maybe another problem | 10:12 |
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| jku | sorry I don't have great suggestions for a recipe workaround -- might be worth it to look in the Makefile, maybe it does something obviously weird with CC | 10:13 |
| Guest1016 | that happens if i just give i586-poky-linux-gcc to CC.... without the other parameters | 10:13 |
| rburton | is the makefile ignoring CFLAGS? | 10:14 |
| * rburton has only partial context, just realise its cutting the first word of CC and dropping the sysroot arg. | 10:15 | |
| rburton | the fix is to fix the makefile | 10:15 |
| rburton | 'cos its broken | 10:15 |
| jku | rburton yes exactly this was the issue http://pastebin.com/ZLNqX3U0 | 10:15 |
| * rburton had zen like autoconf understanding this weekend, and i think i solved the aclocal/old macros problem for good | 10:16 | |
| jku | and then you woke up? | 10:16 |
| rburton | lol | 10:16 |
| Guest1016 | hmm ok that could be. i havnt wrote the make file so i have to debug it somehow | 10:17 |
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| Guest1016 | ok i will contact the author of the makefile cause this isnt my home ;) | 10:20 |
| Guest1016 | many thanks for your help | 10:20 |
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| Guest1016 | you think ignorring the CFLAGS could cause that "not found"-error? | 10:27 |
| Guest1016 | i am not that deep into makefiles | 10:28 |
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| rburton | RP: i think you mean ${datadir}/doc not /gtk-doc in your libxml2 patch | 10:31 |
| pohly1 | rburton: are you going to take the UEFI patch series? I somehow managed to misuse "git series" in the latest revision and accidentally dropped the "[PATCH v4 02/12] acpica: work around flex 2.6.2 code generation issue" patch - it should still be needed. | 10:31 |
| pohly1 | I can send another revision, if you want. | 10:32 |
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| RP | rburton: not sure I did, it had gtkdocs here | 10:35 |
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| rburton | weird, my native build is dropping files into …./usr/share/doc/libxml2-2.9.4 | 10:43 |
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| RP | rburton: I wonder if we have different tools installed? | 10:46 |
| RP | rburton: can we disable docs? | 10:46 |
| rburton | RP: the docs are pregenerated so it just installs them | 10:47 |
| RP | rburton: sorry about the issues in mut btw, I think I solved things in my patches before I merged to master | 10:47 |
| rburton | RP: yeah noticed it exploded but i've been feeling pretty dismal from saturday evening (and still do now) | 10:47 |
| rburton | RP: have a look at ross/autoargh | 10:47 |
| RP | rburton: sorry to hear that :( | 10:47 |
| RP | rburton: "check that we have pkg-config in DEPENDS if pkgconfig is used" doesn't really match the description | 10:49 |
| RP | rburton: I like the idea | 10:50 |
| rburton | damn i just squashed that and probably did it wrong | 10:50 |
| rburton | ha, yeah, squashed too much away! | 10:50 |
| rburton | whoopsie | 10:50 |
| rburton | tl;dr: if when we patch a m4 file we bump the '#serial' in it, aclocal —install will install ours for us | 10:51 |
| rburton | just need to test with gettext next | 10:51 |
| RP | rburton: I do like the idea although still wonder if we can get aclocal just to prefer our m4 files | 10:53 |
| RP | rburton: for some reason the gtk-doc in libxml2 was making it though the sysroot staging code but the others was getting removed without help. I therefore do think the patch was right... | 10:54 |
| RP | rburton: obviously not installing the stuff at all in the native case might be nicer again though | 10:55 |
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| RP | rburton, ed2: Not sure where we're at with ed's patches? The ones in -next still trigger an oe-selftest failure. Have you a better set in -mut? | 11:11 |
| rburton | mut has v3 | 11:13 |
| rburton | looking at the ab it may have worked a bit better | 11:13 |
| rburton | THIRTY SIX HOURS for selftest | 11:14 |
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| rburton | yeah the xml reporting stuff is broken | 11:14 |
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| ed2 | RP: yes, he has all my patches in ross/mut as far as I can see. | 11:19 |
| ed2 | RP: they worked for me on Friday on mut, i.e. passed oe-selftest -r wic | 11:20 |
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| rburton | the ab wasn't happy thogh | 11:21 |
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| cornel | hello | 11:25 |
| cornel | do_cleansstate() will call do_clean() also | 11:25 |
| cornel | ? | 11:25 |
| RP | cornel: yes | 11:25 |
| cornel | thank you RP | 11:28 |
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| pohly1 | rburton: please continue to ignore me ;-) My earlier comment about me having dropped a patch from the UEFI series was wrong, I merely compiled the recipe from meta-openembedded. I would never accidentally remove a patch, would I? Hmm... | 11:39 |
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| pohly1 | What happened to inclusion of shellcheck into OE-core? Some work was done on that, right? | 11:49 |
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| rburton | pohly1: sorry not ignoring you on purpose :) | 11:51 |
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| rburton | pohly1: verify-bashisms in scripts, realised over the weekend its broken with tinfoil2 | 11:52 |
| pohly1 | rburton: no worries. If you agree, perhaps merge the UEFI patches. I'll look at verify-bashisms and might fix it, if no-one else is working on it. | 11:54 |
| rburton | pohly1: that would be good thanks | 11:54 |
| rburton | RP: just fired a mut selftest on the new builder to see what it does | 11:54 |
| rburton | not convinced its in a happy place | 11:54 |
| pohly1 | rburton: where did you get checkbashism.pl from? Google points to SF, which provides a "checkbashism" (no .pl suffix) file. | 11:59 |
| rburton | hm | 12:00 |
| rburton | good question | 12:01 |
| rburton | it appears i ended up with a copy from debian's devscripts | 12:03 |
| rburton | that's not very sensible | 12:03 |
| rburton | (https://packages.debian.org/sid/devscripts) | 12:03 |
| rburton | pohly1: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/devscripts.git/tree/scripts | 12:04 |
| rburton | there's another tool i was going to switch to but i can't recall the name right now | 12:05 |
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| rburton | ah https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck | 12:07 |
| pohly1 | rburton: that's actually the one I was looking for, not checkbashism. | 12:07 |
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| pohly1 | Regarding checkbashism: the one from Debian seems to be better maintained. | 12:07 |
| rburton | i must have copied the binary to my $HOME for testing and then forgot that i did that, sorry | 12:08 |
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| Saur | If I have RRECOMMENDS_${PN} = "foo" in recipe bar.bb, and foo.bb specifies COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "armv7a" and I am building for MIPS, why does it fail with ERROR: Nothing RPROVIDES 'foo' (but bar.bb RDEPENDS on or otherwise requires it). The package foo is optional and I do not need it for the MIPS build. | 12:21 |
| rburton | because bitbake wants to build all recommends so they're present in the feeds | 12:21 |
| rburton | can you do RRECOMMENDS_${PN}_armv7a or similar? | 12:22 |
| Saur | rburton: I can, but the point is I do not want bar.bb to care (it is a packagegroup). If the package is there, then fine use it, otherwise let it be... That is why I use the COMPATIBLE_MACHINE in foo.bb since it is the one that knows if it can be built or not. | 12:23 |
| Saur | I do not see why RRECOMMENDS has to fail if the recipe does not exists. | 12:24 |
| Saur | The whole point (to me) is that it marks an optional dependency... | 12:24 |
| rburton | agreed, a patch seems like a good idea | 12:24 |
| rburton | recommrends/suggests should not fail if they can't be built because they've been excluded | 12:25 |
| Saur | rburton: Is there any difference if I RRECOMMEND something that does not exist at all? Typical example, if I RRECOMMEND something in a recipe in one layer that is provided by another layer, and that second layer is not included in my current build why does the build have to fail? | 12:27 |
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| ant_work | RP: has the staging rework ended? | 12:37 |
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| kanavin | haha, "cloud rot" | 12:41 |
| kanavin | https://lwn.net/Articles/712318/ | 12:41 |
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| kanavin | also: "The new dependency hell [...] A "hello world" application based on one JavaScript framework has 759 JavaScript dependencies; this framework is described as "a lightweight alternative to Angular2". There is no way he is going to package all 759 dependencies for this thing; the current distribution package-management approach just isn't going to work here. " | 12:42 |
| kanavin | Yocto will probably hit this issue at some point as well :-/ | 12:42 |
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| ant_work | RP: ah, again on deltask, I see you selectively drop do_populate_sysroot | 12:44 |
| ant_work | so this should simplify sstate, for any recipe I bet | 12:45 |
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| jku | the openssl recipe does this during install: "ln -sf ${sysconfdir}/ssl/certs ${D}${libdir}/ssl/certs" | 13:05 |
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| jku | this works on target (link points to /etc/ssl/certs), but is broken for native: in a native sysroot the link points to "./../../../../../../work/x86_64-linux/openssl-native/1.0.2j-r0/recipe-sysroot-native/etc/ssl/certs" ... | 13:07 |
| jku | that is from _wayland-native_ recipe-sysroot-native-directory. The linked file doesn't even exist but even if it did, that looks really wrong (it's a completely different sysroot) | 13:10 |
| jku | is there something wrong with how the link is created? | 13:10 |
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| RP | jku: I wonder if we broken this with rss | 13:16 |
| pohly1 | maxin, anyone: I'm having problem getting libtasn1-native built with OE-core master. First it failed because of "yacc: command not found", after addding DEPENDS = "byacc-native" it fails with a syntax error error in ASN1.y. | 13:16 |
| jku | RP: I think so | 13:18 |
| RP | jku: what is supposed to happen is the paths are meant to become relative in the relocation code | 13:18 |
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| Saur | RP: Maybe you can explain to me why an RRECOMMENDS on some non-existing recipe must lead to a build error? (And the non-existence can be caused by COMPATIBLE_MACHINE, BBMASK, the non-existing recipe being in another layer that is not part of the current build, or that it just does not exist yet). | 13:19 |
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| kanavin | jku: if it's any consolation, after dnf I'm going to look at openssl 1.1, and the plan is to throw away existing recipe entirely :) | 13:21 |
| maxin | pohly1: haven't tested it.. will check now | 13:21 |
| jku | RP not sure where that is, can you point me to right direction? | 13:21 |
| pohly1 | maxin: that's with recipe specific sysroots. I'm currently checking whether libtasn1 for the target still builds. | 13:21 |
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| RP | Saur: RRECOMMENDS are treated as a package management feature and real dependencies as far as the build process is concerned. Yes, we could ignore them but it would lead to non-deterministic builds | 13:22 |
| maxin | pohly1: just did a libtasn1-native (4.10) with musl and it works as expected. | 13:23 |
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| RP | jku: make_relative_symlink() in sstate.bbclass | 13:23 |
| jku | cheers | 13:23 |
| Saur | RP: Hmm. In the specific case I have a RRECOMMENDS_${PN} = "foo" in recipe bar.bb, and foo.bb specifies COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "armv7a" and I am building for MIPS and of course i get an error due to this. But it just seems wrong... | 13:24 |
| RP | Saur: I understand, however the alternative would be potentially large pieces of builds disappearing with no error/warning due to typos | 13:25 |
| RP | Saur: I prefer determinism | 13:25 |
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| pohly1 | maxin: which "yacc" implementation is called when building libtasn1-native? Is it perhaps the one from your host? | 13:26 |
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| pohly1 | DEPENDS = "bison-native" fixes the problem for me. byacc-native was something else. | 13:27 |
| pohly1 | (byacc instead of just yacc). | 13:27 |
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| Saur | RP: Ok, in the general case I can understand your concern. But in the case of RRECOMMENDS on something that is excluded due to COMPATIBLE_MACHINE I think it is deterministic. Or am I missing something? | 13:28 |
| kanavin | RP: what is the difference between RRECOMMENDS and RDEPENDS then? | 13:29 |
| maxin | pohly: I have bison in my host.. probably that explains it ( bison --version bison (GNU Bison) 3.0.2) | 13:30 |
| RP | Saur: people often complain about this and COMPATIBLE_HOST and the distro features code. I'm sure we could create something which recurses up the build system try, disabling anything that depends on these things automatically. The trouble is user visibility into the process and knowing when to stop. | 13:30 |
| kanavin | RP: ah right, NO_RECOMMENDATIONS | 13:31 |
| kanavin | RP: I fixed this myself the other day :-/ | 13:31 |
| RP | Saur: If we implement it, I can guarantee that things you want in your build would silently disappear and then you'd be getting upset that these were silently removed | 13:31 |
| kanavin | and already forgot :) | 13:31 |
| RP | kanavin: They are used by the package manager differently, for example installation of kernel modules verses builtin | 13:31 |
| pohly1 | I wonder... should bitbake also sanitize "PATH", at least optionally? I.e. set up tmp/work/sysroot-native/bin etc. with symlinks to the assumed provided tools, then run with PATH containing only the "clean" directories? | 13:32 |
| RP | Saur: You might not like the current situation but its at least quite clear. The alternative would just be a nightmare to maintain. It would also be painful in bitbake's dependency code and I don't think we need more complexity there | 13:33 |
| pohly1 | ASSUME_PROVIDED will make that a bit harder, though. | 13:33 |
| RP | pohly1: In one of my experiment patches, I created symlinks to speed up searching for binaries in PATH, reducing the number of stat calls needed | 13:34 |
| RP | pohly1: couldn't prove a speed increase though | 13:34 |
| Saur | RP: Could an alternative solution to the RRECOMMENDS + COMPATIBLE_MACHINE be a new bbclass that lets th package build as normal for compatible machines, but just creates an empty package for others? Obviously one cannot set COMPATIBLE_MACHINE then, but instead would set some other similar variable. | 13:34 |
| RP | Saur: no. Really not going there. | 13:35 |
| pohly1 | RP: just getting the build to be less dependent on the host already would be worthwhile, IMHO, even if there is no speed increase. | 13:35 |
| Saur | RP: Well, the idea would be to inherit the class in the specific recipe, so that it is obvious what is happening. | 13:35 |
| RP | Saur: might as well just code the recommends in a common include/class file | 13:36 |
| RP | Saur: creating an empty package just to solve this is horrible | 13:37 |
| kanavin | rburton: continuing the python modules issue from last week, this is the dependency line I ended up with: python-core python-codecs python-netclient python-email python-threading python-distutils librepo python-shell python-subprocess libcomps libdnf python-sqlite3 python-compression python-pygpgme python-backports-lzma python-rpm python-iniparse python-json python-importlib python-curses python-argparse | 13:39 |
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| kanavin | rburton: do you think that's a bit much, and just depending on python-modules is better? | 13:39 |
| RP | kanavin: not for target usage | 13:40 |
| kanavin | RP: yeah, this is in fact RDEPENDS_${PN}_class-target of dnf | 13:40 |
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| RP | kanavin: I'd say its reasonable | 13:54 |
| Saur | If I have an anonymous python function that calls bb.warn() it will produce a warning during recipe parsing that is prefixed with the recipe name, which is fine and what I want. However, it will also produce warnings later on during building, and they are not prefixed with anything. Is there some easy way to determine that it is the first case that is running and only produce the warning then? | 14:01 |
| rburton | ed2: test_qemu fails here for me with ross/mut | 14:10 |
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| rburton | ed2: /dev/vda2 != /dev/root | 14:10 |
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| ed2 | rburton: oh, again :( I'll look at it. | 14:13 |
| ed2 | rburton: i tested wic multiple times with my patches on top of ross/mut on Friday. all oe-selftest wic test cases were passed. | 14:14 |
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| rburton | ed2: should test_qemu expect a specific machine? i use intel-corei7-64 here. | 14:19 |
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| ed2 | rburton: I usually run tests on qemu* machines. | 14:22 |
| ed2 | rburton: I'm not sure if intel-core7-64 images can be run on qemu. never tried | 14:23 |
| rburton | the test should either set machine if it has to, or adapt to cope | 14:23 |
| ed2 | rburton: but it's not the case. that failure usually happens due to wrong WKS_FILE value. | 14:23 |
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| sgw_ | rburton: ed2: we recently added support for running meta-intel BSPs in QEMU | 14:46 |
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| Ramose__ | Hello, Just wanted to build qtwebkit package with QtMultimedia backend instead of gstreamer , what should should it requires in qtwebkit_git.bb file ? | 14:58 |
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| Strike5150 | Hello, how can I have a recipe depend on a user added through USERADD | 15:01 |
| Strike5150 | I'm getting some host contamination warnings and I think its because the recipe doesn't have the user required by the files for ownership | 15:02 |
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| marquiz | hmm, why does building core-image-sato fail with "| configure: error: unable to find usable PCRE library" in rpm(?) | 15:13 |
| marquiz | does not seems to happen on all build hosts | 15:13 |
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| Saur | RP: I realized that creating an empty package was not needed at all, and rather defeated the purpose. However, here is the class that I did implement to solve my problem: http://pastebin.com/JSYfVjyc | 15:20 |
| Saur | RP: It allows me to set SUPPORTED_MACHINE instead of COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and then produces a package for the supported machines. For any other machines it will not produce an image and instead produces a warning. | 15:21 |
| Saur | RP: This makes RDEPENDS and RRECOMMENDS work with packages that inherits the class the way I want. :) | 15:21 |
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| RP | Saur: Whilst I'm sure it works for you, I'm not convinced we want to encourage things like that | 15:24 |
| Saur | RP: Well, it is a bit of a special case... :) | 15:25 |
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| Crofton | Saur, conversations like that suggest an email to the architecture list would be nice to see if other peope have similar issues | 15:29 |
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| sgw_ | rburton: zeddii might have just found a long hidden native dependency of at-spi2-atk on glib-compile-schemas, I am working on a patch | 15:54 |
| rburton | i wouldn't be surprised if some stealth deps on common host tools sneak out of the woodwork | 15:55 |
| rburton | like glib-native | 15:55 |
| sgw_ | rburton: yup glib-2.0-native to be exact in this case, patch forthcoming | 15:56 |
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| rburton | yeah thats the one | 15:58 |
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| pohly1 | I want to make some helper script available that wraps some commands in a native sysroot. I could make that a stand-alone recipe like "wic-tools" which then calls binaries installed in its recipe-sysroot-native. But how do I create the script itself, and where? | 16:49 |
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| pohly1 | The easiest solution would be to put it into $WORKDIR in do_compile, but then I must ensure that the tasks always runs (i.e. disable sstate). How can that be achieved? | 16:50 |
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| rburton | pohly1: why not just install from mytools-native into the native sysroot and depend on that where you need it? | 16:59 |
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| pohly1 | rburton: the path to the native sysroot into which mytools-native installs is very deep and user unfriendly. | 17:02 |
| pohly1 | It's *not* mytools-native/1.0-r0/recipe-sysroot-native - that only has the tools mytools-native itself depends on. | 17:03 |
| pohly1 | The file created in do_compile ends up in sysroot-destdir with a full absolute path beneath it. | 17:04 |
| kergoth | you shouldn't be manually calling anything in workdir, ever | 17:04 |
| kergoth | wic-tools is a special case for image construction, but that isn't run manually either, it's run from another recipe | 17:05 |
| kergoth | so the depth of the path is irrelevent | 17:05 |
| rburton | i must be confused | 17:05 |
| rburton | understandable because i'm feeling like death warmed up today | 17:05 |
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| rburton | so one downside of recipe sysroots is that deleting tmp/ takes FOREVER | 17:06 |
| pohly1 | Before the recipe specific sysroot changes, it used to be kind of okay that one called binaries from tmp/sysroots/x86-64 directly on the build host. What's the right way of providing tools to the developer now? | 17:06 |
| pohly1 | I guess that's my question... | 17:06 |
| pohly1 | kergoth: ^^^ | 17:06 |
| JaMa | pohly1: are you using rm_work with rss? are you noticing some issues with it? | 17:06 |
| JaMa | I see all incremental builds failing in random places so I wonder if rm-work is cause of that | 17:07 |
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| pohly1 | JaMa: sorry, no idea. | 17:07 |
| pohly1 | Haven't tried. | 17:07 |
| JaMa | ok | 17:07 |
| pohly1 | Need to go now, back later... | 17:07 |
| kergoth | manually running files in the global sysroot was never a good idea. the fact that it happened to work was luck, not intention | 17:07 |
| kergoth | that said, writing wrapper scripts with accompanying recipes should be fairly straightforward.. | 17:08 |
| kergoth | i.e. a script in contrib that builds a corresponding recipe and adds its native sysroot to the PATH and runs the real underlying script | 17:08 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 17:08 | |
| pohly1 | kergoth: yes, that's exactly what I try to achive, and it's currently not clear to me where that script should go and how to create it. Are there examples, besides runqemu (which isn't created)? | 17:09 |
| pohly1 | Anyway, really need to go. | 17:09 |
| rburton | today's wee python hack: http://pastebin.com/WdbevrYt | 17:10 |
| kergoth | runqemu isn't created, but it does depend on native recipes for its helpers, so is along similar lines | 17:10 |
| kergoth | rburton: cute :) | 17:10 |
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| rburton | kergoth: was writing save/restore environ code and realised with is perfect | 17:11 |
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| kergoth | i'm never quite sure how to feel about context managers that technically affect the entire process, but it does work fine generally | 17:12 |
| rburton | yeah environ is a bit evil | 17:12 |
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| rburton | tempted to fiddle the bits of OE that i'm calling so it doesn't have to touch it | 17:12 |
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| Circuitsoft | Hello - my initramfs has a copy of my kernel in it. | 17:16 |
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| Circuitsoft | I ran "bitbake -g -u depexp core-image-mysys-initramfs" and while linux-yocto shows up in the list, it has no reverse depends. | 17:16 |
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| RP | rburton: I've noticed they take an age to delete too. So many hardlinks :( | 17:42 |
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| kanavin | alimon: how do I get oeqa/runtime/_ptest.py to run? | 17:50 |
| kergoth | rburton, RP: wonder if rm_work should just become default at some point, at least then the removal is distributed over time | 17:50 |
| kergoth | heh | 17:50 |
| kanavin | alimon: it doesn't seem to be enabled anywhere in testimage.bbclass, and I don't know where else to look | 17:50 |
| RP | kergoth: If only rm_work wasn't a horrible hack :/. I keep trying to find a way to better integrate it but its hard :/ | 17:51 |
| kergoth | true | 17:51 |
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| RP | kergoth: I'm a little disappointed at how much overhead rss is having :( | 17:52 |
| RP | kergoth: considering a patch to make the native .pc files relocateable and dropping .la files | 17:52 |
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| RP | (less files that then need sed treatment) | 17:52 |
| * kergoth nods | 17:53 | |
| RP | Also, binutils link scripts are rather a mess with some odd paths we never use afaict | 17:53 |
| fray | do we have anything in the system that still -needs- .la files? | 17:53 |
| RP | fray: I doubt it on linux | 17:54 |
| alimon | kanavin: atm is broke (previously too), it need to be fixed and enabled in the Autobuilder | 17:54 |
| alimon | kanavin: i think mariano have the task and a bug... | 17:54 |
| khem | I think dropping .la files in general is a good thing | 17:54 |
| fray | .la files are an out dated concept to support broken systems (AIX/Solaris/etc) | 17:55 |
| RP | khem: we just run the risk of breaking by deviating from libtool's preferred way of working... | 17:55 |
| fray | so I'd hope we can safely drop them | 17:55 |
| kergoth | does anyone care about libtool's preferred way of working? :) | 17:55 |
| * fray hates autoconf, but libtool is 100x worse.. | 17:55 | |
| fray | almost has bad a perl | 17:55 |
| moto-timo | only 100% worse? | 17:56 |
| RP | kergoth: well, there is that :) | 17:56 |
| alimon | kanavin: for example the whole logic for install packages isn't needed, since we build the core-image-sato-sdk-ptest image | 17:56 |
| * RP also wishes the gnupg people would start using pkgconfig | 17:56 | |
| RP | kudos to anyone else who raises that on their mailing list btw ;-) | 17:56 |
| kergoth | RP: would be nice to stop needing the sed replacements at all. pkgconfig sysroot and wrapper scripts should be able to cover 90% of it, if the wrappers are tweaked to go by their own location rather than needing sed replacements themselves | 17:57 |
| kanavin | alimon: okay, the reason I'm asking is that I just ported runtime/smart.py to runtime/dnf.py :) and _ptest was next to be fixed :) | 17:57 |
| khem | RP: gentoo ditches libtool too, we cant be worse | 17:57 |
| kanavin | alimon: but I guess I can leave it alone then! | 17:58 |
| RP | kergoth: how do you relocate the wrapper scripts? :) | 17:58 |
| alimon | kanavin: yep | 17:58 |
| kanavin | alimon: and it probably won't even need to use package installation with dnf at all | 17:58 |
| kergoth | RP: adjust them to go by $0 with relative paths, so they don't need it | 17:58 |
| RP | kergoth: seriously, the wrappers need to learn how to find their cwd to be able to solve that one | 17:58 |
| kanavin | alimon: what's mariano's nickname, I'd like him to see this conversation | 17:58 |
| RP | kergoth: right | 17:58 |
| kergoth | i have recieps that do so without even needing to modify create_wrapper | 17:58 |
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| kergoth | would obviously be a fairly substantial effort, lots of breakage to fix.. i'll see if i care enough.. | 17:59 |
| RP | kergoth: if you want to feel sad about the enormity of it, "cat tmp/sysroots-components/x86_64/*/fixmepath" | 18:00 |
| kergoth | path relocation issues have always annoyed me. rather tempting to just wrap every binary that ends up in the sysroot bindir to use process namespaces to relocate via bind mount all a recipe's scripts to point at a path they're configured to run in | 18:00 |
| kergoth | wouldn't need per-recipe wrapper construction to do that, in theory | 18:00 |
| kergoth | i.e. —prefix=/oe, then mount the recipe's content there for the process | 18:01 |
| kergoth | bit messy with per-recipe sysroots for deps, though, unless you mount the deps in predictible paths too | 18:02 |
| kergoth | hrmph | 18:03 |
| kergoth | that would be a rather interesting possibility, actually. avoid all the hard linking in favor of predictable process namespace mounts and PATH adjustment | 18:04 |
| kergoth | hmm | 18:04 |
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| kergoth | obviously only helps the native bits, still need the sysroot for linking | 18:04 |
| * kergoth gets more coffee | 18:04 | |
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| kergoth | though if you adjusted the mounts in a way that affected the toolchain, you could handle linking deps the way nix does. i.e. —with-some-lib=/oe/that-other-thing/lib | 18:06 |
| kergoth | wonder how much overhead that would impose.. possibly not much, since the kernel / vfs would be doing most of the work | 18:07 |
| justanotherboy | kanavin: just a question, did you modified the smart test with current master, it did changed a lot | 18:12 |
| kanavin | justanotherboy: no, I'm currently basing my work on a version of master from December 20th | 18:13 |
| kanavin | justanotherboy: I will rebase it, but it's a task in itself, because of rss and oeqa rework | 18:13 |
| kanavin | justanotherboy: for now I have many other issues to solve still :) | 18:13 |
| justanotherboy | kanavin: Indeed, is not THAT hard, but the current branch won't work | 18:14 |
| justanotherboy | kanavin: dnf also needs createrepo to create the index, right? | 18:14 |
| kanavin | justanotherboy: createrepo_c :) | 18:15 |
| ed2 | rburton: I thought I saw this patchset http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-January/131679.html in ross/mut at some point. Now I don't see it there anymore. | 18:15 |
| ed2 | rburton: any problems with it? | 18:15 |
| kanavin | justanotherboy: I've removed old python implementation and replaced it with the current C implementation | 18:15 |
| kanavin | (of createrepo) | 18:15 |
| justanotherboy | kanavin: Nice that should speed index creation, just don't forget to add it to testimage class, I just discovered that we need for QA team. | 18:18 |
| kergoth | hmm, could even do read only bind mounts for everything we don't want it to be able to write to.. | 18:20 |
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| khem | do we put the latest recipe report on wiki as well ? or just email | 18:21 |
| kanavin | justanotherboy: I think that should cover it https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/diff/meta/classes/testimage.bbclass?h=akanavin/dnf-rpm4&id=d1ad23e3e2cdc30dd0ea23d77c498c58d1d1d415 | 18:22 |
| justanotherboy | kanavin: indeed | 18:22 |
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| ed2 | rburton: oe-selftest -r wic.Wic.test_qemu passed in my intel-corei7-64 target :( | 18:26 |
| ed2 | rburton: I'm using your branch | 18:27 |
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| ed2 | rburton: all wic tests passed | 18:40 |
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| RP | ed2: did the tests run in the same order? There is something not right :/ | 18:49 |
| ed2 | RP: i think unittest runs them in alphabetical order, so yes, the order should be the same. | 18:50 |
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| ed2 | RP: I've noticed one nasty behaviour of oe-selftest: it restores backup configs when test is interrupted by Ctrl+C. So, if I edit config files when tests are running and then press Ctrl+C all my changes disappear. | 18:53 |
| ed2 | RP: I'm not saying this is the case here, but probably something similar, i.e. configuration issues. | 18:54 |
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| ed2 | RP: I hope they'll pass on AB as it uses clean configs (hopefully). | 18:54 |
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| ed2 | RP: I used clean new target for my experiment and all tests passed. | 18:56 |
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| rburton | ed2: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/builders/nightly-oe-selftest/builds/168/steps/Running%20oe-selftest/logs/stdio <— worked for me ab too | 19:38 |
| rburton | ed2: for, for the ab too | 19:38 |
| rburton | so no idea why it broke here | 19:38 |
| ed2 | rburton: that's a great news. I thought I'll have to fix it again for the 3rd time :) | 19:39 |
| ed2 | rburton: did you see my question about http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-January/131679.html ? | 19:40 |
| ed2 | rburton: did it break something? | 19:40 |
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| pohly1 | RP: could it be that bb.event.RecipeTaskPreProcess doesn't fire for native recipes? | 19:51 |
| pohly1 | I see in "bitbake -c listtasks my-native-recipe" that there is a do_rm_work tasks, but "bitbake -g my-native-recipe" does not list it and it also doesn't run, i.e. the actual dependencies never got added. | 19:53 |
| pohly1 | my-native-recipe inherits native.bbclass. | 19:53 |
| pohly1 | I just checked with qemu-native, there it works :-/ | 19:54 |
| pohly1 | Hrmm. Need to dig deeper. | 19:54 |
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| falstaff | What does _ exactly do to a variable? I have a custom image class, along with a IMAGE_CMD_test. Now I created a distro test, and somehow this seems to interfere | 21:00 |
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| neverpanic | NAME_foo replaces NAME whenever the special variable OVERRIDES contains foo | 21:01 |
| bluelightning | falstaff: those are called "overrides" | 21:01 |
| neverpanic | The distro name is one of the default overrides | 21:01 |
| falstaff | Oh ok... So naming a image class test and a distro is then not a good idea I guess? | 21:02 |
| bluelightning | falstaff: well, the image class name here isn't important, the name of the IMAGE_FSTYPES item you're creating is | 21:03 |
| falstaff | Hm, afaik with IMAGE_CMD_test I created a name valid for IMAGE_FSTYPES? | 21:05 |
| falstaff | So I did IMAGE_CLASSES += "image_type_test", IMAGE_FSTYPES = "test", and defined in image_type_test.bbclass IMAGE_CMD_test... | 21:06 |
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| robsta | hi | 23:05 |
| robsta | if one says "yocto BSP" does that typically include the kernel image, or just the SDK? | 23:06 |
| RP | robsta: BSP usually means the hardware support piece | 23:07 |
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| robsta | RP: now i'm even more confused, could you clarify? | 23:08 |
| robsta | what is the HW support piece | 23:08 |
| RP | robsta: the kernel, the graphics support (kernel modules, GL library), definition of what the hardware looks like (pci tools, i2c tools), type of bootloader etc | 23:09 |
| robsta | RP: so what's the correct name for image+bsp produced by a YP? | 23:11 |
| robsta | er, bsp+sdk | 23:12 |
| RP | robsta: I'd class the input metadata as the bsp, the output would be a sdk | 23:13 |
| RP | robsta: not everything has a neat name :/ | 23:13 |
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| robsta | RP: i've heard PDK (platform development kit) being used and liked it | 23:23 |
| RP | robsta: that works | 23:24 |
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| robsta | cool | 23:28 |
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| RP | khem: any thoughts on http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/wip-rss&id=b3ea1fa58756fa7762c9f93e1194f52831ea1e5f ? | 23:41 |
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