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hamdyaeaI have a problem with my bitbake core-image-sato, can someone help me please ? The following packages have unmet dependencies:06:29
hamdyaea packagegroup-core-ssh-dropbear : Depends: dropbear but it is not going to be installed06:29
hamdyaeaE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.06:29
hamdyaea[log_check] WARNING: Debian package install does not support BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS06:29
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hamdyaeaI would like to do a 32 bit generic intel image but I have always many mistakes. Can someone help me please ?07:49
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jkuhamdyaea: you will have to explain what you did and what went wrong...07:56
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hamdyaeajku : I try to create a genex86 32 image, rpm package, openssh , python,08:02
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eduardas_mhello, how do I prevent do_image_ubi from executing? I get error Error: max_leb_cnt too low (4072 needed). I only need an sdcard image anyway.08:09
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MarcWehamdyaea packagegroup-core-ssh-dropbear is conflicting with open ssh sins openssh and dropbear are both ssh servers08:10
eduardas_mthis is my local.conf: https://pastebin.com/CJGRzp9408:11
hamdyaeaMarcWe : OK I will remove the openssh package08:12
MarcWeeduardas_m you need to set the MKUBIFS_ARGS  -c to a more high number in you device config file08:12
eduardas_mMarcWe: what if I dont want to make a ubifs in the first place?08:13
eduardas_mI only care about emmc and sdcard08:13
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eduardas_mbut by default the recipes also try to build ubifs08:14
MarcWeeduardas_m: that is somthing i can't anser for you. i soved the issue with setting the -c to 1200008:14
eduardas_mMarcWe: will try, thank you08:15
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LetoThe2ndeduardas_m: i personally would look at the bitbake -e of your build, and then inspect the modifications of IMAGE_TYPES. hopefully this tells you where the ubifs gets inserted.08:16
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MarcWeI'm still also a bit of a noob :P08:17
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pohlyjku, RP: I'm seeing a problem with the DISTRO_FEATURE removal for native recipes. My example is swtpm-wrappers, which inherits native.bbclass.08:19
pohlynative_virtclass_handler in native.bbclass checks whether PN ends in -native.08:19
pohlyAlways has (well, since 2011).08:19
pohlyBut that means that swtpm-wrappers uses different DISTRO_FEATURES than other native recipes, and that breaks when using the usrmerge DISTRO_FEATURES because paths are not the same anymore.08:20
RPpohly: it would use different distro_features to the target but it should see the same distro features as all other native recipes08:21
pohlyRP: the current code returns before changing DISTRO_FEATURES because of the PN check.08:22
pohlyThat looks like a bug to me,08:22
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pohlyShould the DISTRO_FEATURE cleanup be done before the return?08:22
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pohlyI.e. unconditionally, in any recipe inheriting native.bbclass?08:23
RPpohly: no, since distro_features is only changed if the recipe endswith -native ?08:23
RPpohly: are we talking about a recipe which is native but isn't called xxx-native ?08:23
pohlyRP: yes, exactly that.08:24
RPpohly: don't do that08:24
RPpohly: there are other places which make assumptions about naming08:24
pohlyRP: is that documented somewhere? If not, shouldn't there be some kind of warning?08:25
pohlyI wasn't aware of that restriction/.08:25
RPpohly: the bitbake virtclass code is tricky and that handler can be called with target context recipes which is why the guard is there, we can't relax that08:25
RPpohly: how exactly would you detect this?08:25
RPpohly: I'm open to ideas but its hard :(08:25
RPpohly: It could be the issues with the handlers being called out of context may be fixed these days. I know I did make a number of fixes in that area, not sure I ever got them all though08:26
pohlyI don't know. If there's no way to detect it, at least it should be documented.08:26
RPpohly: happy to see documentation...08:26
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RPpohly: grep the codebase for "endswith('-native')" to see what I mean about assumptions about cross/nativesdk/native :/08:27
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hamdyaeaERROR: core-image-sato-1.0-r0 do_image_wic: Function failed: do_image_wic (log file is located at /home/hamdy/poky/build/tmp/work/genericx86-poky-linux/core-image-sato/1.0-r0/temp/log.do_image_wic.4615)08:28
hamdyaeaERROR: Logfile of failure stored in: /home/hamdy/poky/build/tmp/work/genericx86-poky-linux/core-image-sato/1.0-r0/temp/log.do_image_wic.461508:28
hamdyaeaError: exec_cmd: cp /home/hamdy/poky/build/tmp/work/genericx86-poky-linux/core-image-sato/1.0-r0/core-image-sato-1.0/hddimg/EFI/BOOT/* /home/hamdy/poky/build/tmp/work/genericx86-poky-linux/core-image-sato/1.0-r0/deploy-core-image-sato-image-complete/core-image-sato-genericx86-20170425081143/build/hdd/boot/EFI08:29
hamdyaeaCan someone help me please ?08:29
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pohlyRP: the documentation for native.bbclass actually describes the recipe naming ("Create a myrecipe-native.bb that inherits the native class"). It's just not clear that this is more than an example and that things will break when not following that example.08:33
pohlyNot sure whether it is worth adding a warning.08:33
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RPpohly: Probably worth just an extra comment mentioning it?08:53
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pohlyRP: Is the same true for the nativesdk- prefix?08:54
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phako[m]is there a simple way to bulid all the packages that would make up an image, but not actually assemble the image?08:59
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LetoThe2ndphako[m]: what would be the useccase?09:02
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phako[m]assembling various images. with common and disjunct subsets of packages. and no image with a superset of all of them09:12
phako[m]so currently we build an artificial superset image, just to throw it away09:12
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LetoThe2ndphako[m]: why not just build them in a row? where its possible, stuff should be reused.09:13
RPpohly: yes09:13
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zumbihello! I have a recipe overwrite from local layer, it overwrites curl, and when do_populate_sysroot it complains about a file conflict in the sysroot. What is the proper way to tell bitbake that file is provided by curl-mine instead upstream curl?11:04
rburtonzumbi: don't call it something else11:06
rburtoncall it curl and use layer/recipe preference to pick yours instead of the oe-core one11:06
rburtonor, don't write a new recipe, just use a  bbappend11:06
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zumbirburton: I have no control over the layers, it happens to be setup like that11:10
rburtonif the local layer doesn't call the recipe curl_[version].bb then it is Doing It Wrong11:10
rburtonif it is actually called eg curl-mine then it should RPROVIDES curl for compatibility11:11
zumbiI think it renames the package, because it uses different version11:11
rburtonselecting a different version is such a common operation it's directly supported in bb file naming11:11
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hamdyaeaIs it possible to add software like python, nano etc to already build yocto image ?11:14
rburtonhamdyaea: yes, tmp/deploy/ contains a package feed for use with dpkg/rpm/opkg/whatever you picked11:15
LetoThe2nd(if you actually have runtime package management to utilize that)11:15
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hamdyaearburton: Can you tell me more how to use it or do you know a web site where I can read informations about it ?11:19
rburtonthe documentation? :)11:20
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LetoThe2ndand by default your images can't use it anyways.11:20
hamdyaearburton: Yes but I don't find any info about it11:21
rburtonthe easy way for development purposes is to run a httpd of some sort on  your build server sharing tmp/deploy/rpm (eg), set PACKAGE_FEED_URIS to the right url, and rebuild an image11:21
rburtonthen you can use dnf etc to install stuff11:21
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rburton*assuming* you've enabled package-management in IMAGE_FEATURES11:22
hamdyaearburton: So i just share the folder /tmp/deploy/rpm or deb and then I can access it and use dpkg etc.. ?11:22
rburtonyes11:23
rburtonPACKAGE_FEED_URIS will write the configuration for you11:23
MarcWeI'm trying to switch from a init.d sytem to systemd. but when i boot the device its complaining that it cant find the init  not syncing: No working init found.11:23
* LetoThe2nd hands rburton todays "runtime package managemant FTW support badge"11:23
hamdyaearburton: Ok I will search about it11:24
rburtonMarcWe: always wise to wipe tmp when changing just in case.  sstate will ensure it rebuilds in seconds.11:27
hamdyaearburton: If I want to install a package who is not in tmp/deploy I can just download some files in it and then install it ?11:27
rburtonhamdyaea: bitbake it first then11:27
rburtonyou can only install what is in deploy, so you'll need to build it11:27
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hamdyaearburton: OK thanks, one other question : can I use a share folder ? I mean I have a NAS in the network with a shared folder or I need to use only http protocole ?11:30
rburtonhamdyaea: sure, if you mount the shared drive on your target.11:32
rburton(http is easier though as there's no mounting required)11:33
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hamdyaearburton: the target and share will be in the same network so it's ok. Thanks for the good infos11:39
kanavinhamdyaea: you probably want to look at http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#using-runtime-package-management11:40
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hamdyaeakanavin: I will look at it11:45
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JoiFhamdyaea: python -m SimpleHTTPServer works fine, if you are just serving packages locally for yourself.11:58
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top22hello12:11
top22is it possible to know which layers are used for an image ?12:11
top22or should I look at the packages contained in  the image and then check which layer provides them ?12:12
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hamdyaeaJoiF: OK I look at it12:19
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kanavintop22: yes - I think the layer information is not preserved into the packages or the image12:24
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HUnkHello, is it possible to define a variable which i can share between different recipes?12:35
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hamdyaeaIf my yocto image run with rpm packages, can I instell centos or any rpm public repository to install softwares with smart ?13:06
hamdyaeaOr a fedora repository ?13:07
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kanavinhamdyaea: no13:13
LetoThe2ndin a nutshell, no13:13
* LetoThe2nd still thinks that most people here totally overrate and misinterpret package management in the context of oe images.13:16
neverpanichamdyaea: that will work about as well as trying to install fedora packages on redhat, or suse packages on centos13:17
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LetoThe2ndneverpanic: nope13:17
LetoThe2ndi am totally convinced that it will work worse.13:18
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neverpanicwell, that already doesn't work very well, but I agree it will probably be even worse on a Yocto-built image.13:19
LetoThe2ndbecause in the context of desktop/server distributions distributions, you at least have *similar* APIs. something that just totally does *NOT* apply to custom distros like the things we are doing here :)13:19
neverpanicI don't think it makes sense to distinguish different levels of 'broken' here, though.13:19
ChrysD* mmh13:20
LetoThe2ndneverpanic: agreed there :)13:20
LetoThe2ndneverpanic: i am just extremely reluctant to give examples here where people already have preexisting assumptions of "worksforme"13:20
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LetoThe2ndas that would only lead to even more runtim package management brokenness we have to deal with13:21
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HUnkpython do_something(var) {13:39
HUnkis it possible to define a python function with a parameter13:39
HUnkand call this function from an other function inside the recipe13:39
top22hello, i'm trying to build image-minimal on archlinux and I have a problem with openssl: /usr/bin/ld: libcrypto.a(sha1-x86_64.o): relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against undefined symbol `OPENSSL_ia32cap_P' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC13:44
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top22but I I'm under the impression that -fPIC is passed  to gcc nevertheless13:44
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neverpanicHUnk: sure, def myfunction(param): ... and then just call it from whatever python do_something task you have13:47
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hamdyaeaIf my yocto image run with rpm packages, can I instell centos, Fedora, or any rpm public repository to install softwares with smart ?13:48
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rburtonhamdyaea: no13:52
rburtonjust like you can't install suse packages on fedora, and they both use rpm13:53
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hamdyaearburton: Can I find a list somewhere of all package possibilties in yocto ?13:55
neverpanichamdyaea: Did you miss the discussion above where we explained that this is not a good idea?13:55
hamdyaeaneverpanic: Yes I missed it sorry13:56
rburtonhamdyaea: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/13:56
neverpanichamdyaea: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/ has a list of a lot of recipes13:56
hamdyaeathanks13:56
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RPseebs: any thoughts on http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/wip-rss2&id=3457c165e63efd09161397e0fdcfff0c7cfc0663 ?14:32
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hamdyaeaAll the rpm packages in tmp/deploy are already installed in my image when I bitbake ?? Or they are options that I can install or no ?14:37
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LetoThe2ndhamdyaea: those are all the packages that got generated alon the build process. and everything that is on your target is also there, but not everything that is there is also on the target.14:39
seebshmm. It's not insane, but it seems like it might be Too Aggressive. It's gonna close *every* client with no pending requests, and that seems like it might be too expensive.14:39
seebsI was thinking of trying to identify the "oldest" client or something.14:39
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hamdyaeaLetoThe2nd:  everything that is on your target is also there, but not everything that is there is also on the target.  | I don't understand, it's there or no ?14:42
neverpanichamdyaea: your target contains a subset of the packages in tmp/deploy14:43
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neverpanice.g. there will be debug symbols in tmp/deploy, but those will usually not be installed on your target14:43
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LetoThe2ndhamdyaea: if something is on the target, it is also there.14:44
hamdyaeaneverpanic: OK I see now, so there are all package already on my image and some others14:44
LetoThe2ndbut the reverse is not true.14:44
rburtonhamdyaea: if you just do bitbake myimage then deploy will only contain the output from the *recipes* that went into the image.  not every package, eg dbg symbols, will be in there.  if you want to build more packages just bitbake those too, ie bitbake samba.14:44
rburtonwon't go in your image, but will be built14:45
hamdyaeaand can I create myself some rpm packages for yocto ?14:45
rburtonyes14:46
hamdyaeaok I see14:46
LetoThe2ndtry to get away from the rpm mindset.14:46
LetoThe2ndand from "the yocto" mindset.14:47
LetoThe2ndto be correct: "you can create packages for your custom distribution".14:47
LetoThe2ndbecause its really something completely different.14:48
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hamdyaeaSo If I want to add a new package, I can look in temp/Deploy if it's there I can add it with smart. If It's not there I can add it with layers and by modifying local.conf, If it not in thoses two places I have to create the package myself14:49
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LetoThe2ndwhile that suffices for a first try and error approach, its not really correct again.14:51
LetoThe2ndbecause once you add a layer to the build it is best to consider everything you had before to be incompatible.14:51
seebsRP: Thinking about it more, there is a small but non-zero chance of data loss in the case where a client wrote a message *between* the select and the close.14:52
seebsIf we process any messages, the loop can take a while to get to some clients, which means that the select data can be stale.14:52
RPseebs: I did test it and it seems to work FWIW in my test case where things previously hung14:52
LetoThe2ndhamdyaea: i really, really suggest to stick with adding everything during a monolithic build. add everything you want to IMAGE_INSTALL, then build.14:52
seebsyeah.14:52
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LetoThe2ndhamdyaea: so you can always see if your dependencies are right, and you can reproduce it.14:52
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hamdyaeaLetoThe2nd: Yes I see14:53
seebsI would expect it to work most of the time. But that's the other reason I wanted to close relatively-few clients; I want to reduce risk.14:53
RPseebs: presumably any client sending data when the connection was lost would resend that data?14:53
RPseebs: I couldn't find anything to indicate client age/activity in the current data structures :/14:54
RPseebs: you can probably guess I started getting hanging builds again ;-)14:54
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seebsif the connection goes down so that the write fails, it'll resend.14:55
seebsif it was a FASTOP and the send completed, it won't.14:55
seebsSo there's not a huge window there, but there's a non-zero window.14:56
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RPseebs: is there a way to stop new writes but read any data left in the fd?15:01
seebsI don't *think* so.15:01
RPseebs: so the only real way to do this would be to send a "reconnect" event to clients?15:02
RP(without data loss)15:03
seebsWell, we could turn off the "fastop" thing, but that would definitely affect performance. Although... I don't know how MUCH.15:03
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RPseebs: I quite like fastop15:04
seebsHmm. We could attempt a non-blocking read or something...15:04
seebsI do too, although it's probably got to be made smarter because it does lead to potential data loss on server crashes.15:04
RPseebs: that could still race15:04
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seebsyeah.15:04
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RPseebs: I guess clients need to maintain a queue of all events since the last reply from the server and if the connection is lost without hearing from the server, replay them?15:06
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seebs... probably. something like, anyway. hmm.15:07
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seebsi hate that a lot because it breaks what was probably the largest single performance improvement in pseudo.15:08
seebswhich was "stop doing allocation for every message"15:08
seebsi'ma have to ponder this a bit.15:08
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top22hello, has anybodyhave an issue building lzop with gcc 6.x ?15:31
top22version 1.03 of lzop seem to fail: checking whether your compiler passes the ACC conformance test... FAILED15:32
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khemrburton: Figured few issues with libnsl and samba/autofs etc. changes in glibc 2.26 and fixed them have updated contrib branch kraj/master now with them.15:45
khemnext cycle when its available please consider that branch15:45
rburtonwill do15:46
rburtonkhem: can you fix elfutils in meta-gpl2?15:46
rburtona number of the test stages failed in my last gcc7 run, just fired a run with less other changes to see if its gcc7 or something else15:46
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khemrburton: it will be a challange to keep fixing these ancient packages with new gcc15:49
khemI havent added meta-gplv2 to the testing mix yet15:50
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khemwill do that once the oe-core proper is clean with gcc715:50
rburtonkhem: its just elfutils, from memory its just fallthrough comments15:50
khemrburton: ok thats easy to fix15:50
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ssalenikhi, I'm having an issue building fido due to a patch in poky recipes-core failing to apply: http://paste.debian.net/929288/17:51
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ssalenikunits/systemd-udevd.service.in isn't the same as whats in the patch... but I didn't have this issue a few weeks ago, and the offending patch was committed in 2016, so I'm not sure what else might have changed...17:53
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