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| kcroot | hello | 07:07 |
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| ChrysD | Hi everyone ! I have some trouble with this line that I have added | 07:16 |
| ChrysD | ln -sf ${WORKDIR}/testQML ${D}${bindir}/QtDemo | 07:16 |
| ChrysD | When we use ${WORKDIR}, it the files that we put in SRC_URI right ? | 07:16 |
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| ChrysD | and when we use ${D}${bindir} it's to specify that we would like in the target having QtDemo in usr/bin ? | 07:19 |
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| kcroot | can enyone tell what shouldt do when one of the apps got error when compile | 07:20 |
| kcroot | eg i got error when compile elflibs | 07:20 |
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| ChrysD | pastebin the error ? | 07:22 |
| kcroot | now is not possible, | 07:23 |
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| kcroot | after work paste this error | 07:23 |
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| ChrysD | I'm wondering why a line as that : ln -sf ${datadir}/${PN}/testQML ${D}${bindir}/QtDemo can fail | 07:40 |
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| neverpanic | well, it could fail if the target directory does not exist yet? | 07:57 |
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| ChrysD | You mean that usr/bin for the target isn't created before I do that recipe ? | 08:00 |
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| pinkSnake | Hi all i'm not working with Yocto for a while, so my question is maybe stupid. I have 2 image recipes, one is for production and the other one is used only for development purpose. The development recipe require production recipe and add some debug tools. The trouble is i would to remove root password on the dev image recipe but i don't how to do this because the password is inside the production recipe ... any idea ? Thx :) | 08:03 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : Maybe it's stupid what im seing, but you can define in your production image the variable as "overideable" and then you overide it in your development recipe no ? | 08:05 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : Or maybe doing FOO_remove =" " | 08:07 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : and you remove what you want to take out | 08:07 |
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| pinkSnake | @ChrysD ho nice i'm going to try that! Thank you for the trick ;) | 08:09 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : np | 08:13 |
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| gourve_l | Hello! The recipe python-gst was removed from meta-openembedded in commit 1ec074eca0165de351ee45f173321f14408e3862. Is it compiled in another recipe or should I re-add the recipe (but with an updated version, for morty)? | 08:53 |
| ChrysD | For barebox, I took an image with recipes already done by a company, but i would like to change the environment of barebox directly to the image. How can I do it ? Thanks. | 08:54 |
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| ChrysD | I think i found it. The reicpe for barebox have python that directly write there, just need to patch it and it's done | 08:58 |
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| pinkSnake | @ChrysD the trick doesn't work directly, maybe because i use it with ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND_remove command :S | 09:45 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : The password for root, isn't it debug-tweaks ? | 09:46 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : What variable is responsible of the behavior you don't want ? | 09:46 |
| pinkSnake | @ChrysD i'm going to pastebin ;) | 09:47 |
| robsta | hello | 09:48 |
| robsta | trying to build for qemu for the first time | 09:48 |
| robsta | i've been recommended to set MACHINE to QEMU | 09:48 |
| robsta | i'm confused why that is needed or what that is causing | 09:49 |
| rburton | you get a kernel that has virtio drivers and doesn't use instructions that qemu doesnt support | 09:49 |
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| robsta | thanks for making me feel like the noob i am | 09:50 |
| rburton | np | 09:50 |
| rburton | just doing my job | 09:50 |
| rburton | MACHINE=qemux86-64 is the one you want | 09:50 |
| pinkSnake | @ChrysD https://pastebin.com/LJqdEsjQ for prod recipe and https://pastebin.com/T2PUt1PT for debug | 09:50 |
| rburton | robsta: you can then tell runqemu to use KVM for extra speed | 09:50 |
| robsta | look i'm only interested in doing the build | 09:51 |
| robsta | not running it :p | 09:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | i personally always recommend qemuarm, as it gives you more breakage and therefore better error detection ;-) | 09:51 |
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| pinkSnake | @ChrysD it's maybe a trouble with Yocto cache because in tmp/sysroots/custom-board/etc/passwd --> root::0:0:root:/home/root:/bin/sh and in tmp/work/custom-board-poky-linux-gnueabi/base-debug-image/1.0-r0/rootfs/etc/passwd --> root:x:0:0:root:/home/root:/bin/sh | 09:53 |
| robsta | qemuarm for MACHINE=qemux86-64 ? | 09:53 |
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| LetoThe2nd | robsta: my standard buld testcase is MACHINE ?= "qemuarm" in local.conf | 09:54 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : Sorry i was busy | 09:59 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : what about patching the prod recipe ? and you apply the patch only if you are in dev ? Maybe is using a bazooka to kill a bee but should work | 10:01 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : and what about ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND_remove := "set_rood_password" ? | 10:04 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : Oh i read your other post, yeah maybe the cache | 10:05 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : CLean the project ? | 10:05 |
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| pinkSnake | @ChrysD i tried -cleansstate and -cleanall maybe there is an other way to clean rootfs :S | 10:07 |
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| sveinse | If one turns off IMAGE_FEATURE package-management, does this also imply that the postinstall steps does not run on firstboot on target? | 10:07 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : Be aware that if you cleanup everything, you can loose your conf/local.conf | 10:08 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : don't forget to make a backup of it just in case | 10:08 |
| sveinse | pinkSnake: -c cleansstate and -c cleanall perhaps? | 10:08 |
| pinkSnake | @ChrysD ok thanks, i will add ":=" also to be sure | 10:08 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : I tihnk it won't change | 10:10 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : I'm a total newbie in yocto | 10:10 |
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| MarcWe | im having trobble with QT qml controls. im getting module "QtQuick.Dialogs" is not installed error when i execute it on the device. after some research i can conclud that i have qtquickcontrols listed in my .bb file. but im missing libqtquickcontrolsplugin.so and some qml files on the target | 10:20 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : Any news about your problem ? | 11:07 |
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| pinkSnake | @ChrysD nothing change after -cleanall and -cleansstate i tried to remove caches, it's building... | 11:11 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : What you mean by -cleanall ? | 11:13 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : you mean -c cleanall ? | 11:13 |
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| pinkSnake | @ChrysD yep :) | 11:21 |
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| hamdyaea | Someone know how I can expand the yocto partition to use all a disk ? I flasher a sd card with dd. The yocto image is a .hddimg. The image use 1.9 Go only and the disk is a 15 Go | 11:28 |
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| MarcWe | I'm missing libqtquickcontrolsplugin.so on my target. but i have included qtquickcontrols, qtdeclarative-qmlplugins, etc | 11:36 |
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| hamdyaea | Someone know how I can expand the yocto partition to use all a disk ? I flasher a sd card with dd. The yocto image is a .hddimg. The image use 1.9 Go only and the disk is a 15 Go | 11:41 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : Are you sure it exists ? | 11:41 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : I've checked and yes. It's weird because i use it on my QtApps on my board but don't have this .so :s | 11:43 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : oh ok I have it on => usr/lib/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ | 11:44 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : Maybe try with qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins | 11:44 |
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| ChrysD | MarcWe : Do you have it ? | 11:51 |
| MarcWe | ChrysD: i have qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins | 11:52 |
| MarcWe | ChrysD: i must say its in a RDEPENDS_${PN} and not in image_install | 11:53 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : Have ytou see if others .so are missing from the same file you have put the list of RDEPENDS_${PN} ? | 11:53 |
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| ChrysD | Which patch format is used for yocto projects ? Any of them ? | 11:56 |
| MarcWe | I'm missing all the qml files in that dir. libqtquicktemplate2plugin.so is also missing ( maybe more ) | 11:56 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : Maybe a stupid question, but have you image_install the package which have the RDEPENDS_${PN} ? | 11:57 |
| MarcWe | nope | 11:58 |
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| ChrysD | MarcWe : So ifyou dont install the package which have run time depends of it, you won't have the plugins. | 11:58 |
| MarcWe | oke tnx so far | 11:59 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : Think that way, but for example, why yocto should brings tennis rackets, if you don't take the tennis balls ? | 11:59 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : Maybe the contrary suit more, but you understand. | 12:00 |
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| MarcWe | ChrysD: yes i understand. ty for explaning, I'm a bit of a noob. | 12:07 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : You're telling me ! | 12:08 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : I'm pretty new to yocto too. | 12:08 |
| ChrysD | when ytou have a file in .cfg. Does it's a file that defined kernel config ? | 12:16 |
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| ChrysD | In case of the same variable in a .cfg being in two different state, does the one that is in the layer with the biggest priority "won" ? | 12:17 |
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| hamdyaea | Someone know how I can expand the yocto partition to use all a disk ? I flasher a sd card with dd. The yocto image is a .hddimg. The image use 1.9 Go only and the disk is a 15 Go | 12:31 |
| MarcWe | hamdyaea: is the file system ext? | 12:33 |
| MarcWe | hamdyaea: if yes then resize2fs /dev/XXX | 12:36 |
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| hamdyaea | MarcWe : yes it is but resize2fs is not include in any yocto package. And when I take the card in my computer I see only /dev/sda but not /dev/sda1, sda2, sda3, sda4 | 12:42 |
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| sveinse | Is there a way to set a default /etc/locale.conf from yocto recipes/conf files? | 12:44 |
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| rburton | pidge: your blog rss doesn't have a title set | 12:47 |
| rburton | so you're in my rss reader as No Title | 12:47 |
| pidge | rburton: ahhh, which one, oryx or togán labs? | 12:47 |
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| rburton | pidge: the togan labs wordpress on | 12:48 |
| pidge | rburton: hrm, oddness. I'll poke about and fix, ty. | 12:48 |
| rburton | np | 12:48 |
| rburton | need to find the time to read that post properly :) | 12:49 |
| pidge | rburton: it's pretty cool stuff we've been working on, we're kinda pleased with it. | 12:49 |
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| ChrysD | I have the following problem : failure: Unable to find file file://bareboxenv.patch anywhere | 12:50 |
| ChrysD | If i do remember, when i do a .bbappend in another layer which SRC_URI my file | 12:51 |
| ChrysD | For bitbake i'm still in the layer of the original recipe | 12:51 |
| ChrysD | I've tried to use EXTRAPATHS_prepend | 12:51 |
| ChrysD | Like that : EXTRAPATHS_prepend := "${THISDIR}/${PN}" | 12:52 |
| ChrysD | so i guess it's working as, ${THISDIR} = the dir which is located the .bbappend | 12:52 |
| ChrysD | and then looking to a directory which name is ${PN} | 12:52 |
| ChrysD | Which is the case | 12:53 |
| ChrysD | The name of the file is : barebox_2016.11.0-phy4.bbappend and have put a directory which the name is barebox. | 12:54 |
| ChrysD | What's wrong ? | 12:54 |
| ChrysD | Thanks by advance. | 12:54 |
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| hamdyaea | Someone know how I can expand the yocto partition to use all a disk ? I flasher a sd card with dd. The yocto image is a .hddimg. The image use 1.9 Go only and the disk is a 15 Go | 12:56 |
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| sveinse | To get utf-8 support in yocto, do I need to specify something with IMAGE_LINGUAS? I'm looking for "en_US.UTF-8" but IMAGE_LINGUAS seems to expect "en-us" with dash not underline | 12:59 |
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| MarcWe | ChrysD: if added qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins to install but still no joy | 13:17 |
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| sveinse | Setting GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES="en_US.UTF-8" didn't seem to have any effect to get UTF-8 support | 13:18 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : I was speaking of the package to but on install, not the qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins | 13:19 |
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| ChrysD | MarcWe : If I remember, you told me that you have a recipe which there is RDEPENDS_${PN} | 13:20 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : And you also told me that the package of this recipe isn't installed | 13:20 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : to put* | 13:21 |
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| MarcWe | ChrysD: yes RDEPENDS_${PN}= "qtquickcontrols-qmlplugins qtdeclarative-qmlplugins qtdeclarative-plugins" | 13:24 |
| MarcWe | and i dit put all the Rdepends in image_install | 13:24 |
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| pinkSnake | @all someone here knows the difference between -- DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel" ------ and ----- do_configure[depends] += "virtual/kernel:do_compile_kernelmodules" in custom custom kernel module recipe ? | 13:25 |
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| ChrysD | MarcWe : It wasn't what i was speaking about ahah | 13:32 |
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| ChrysD | MarcWe : I was telling you that if for example you have toto_0.1-r0.bb containing RDEPENDS etc | 13:33 |
| ChrysD | MarcWe : you shuold image_install toto | 13:33 |
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| JPEWhacker | pinkSnake: I believe that DEPENDS = "foo" is equivalent to do_configure[depends] = "foo:do_populate_sysroot" | 13:53 |
| ChrysD | How do you do patch ? For example i have a file which name is toto.original and another one toto.modified | 13:53 |
| ChrysD | I've done diff -Naur toto.original toto.modified > toto.patch | 13:54 |
| ChrysD | and i have this error : https://pastebin.com/i5H52Pce | 13:54 |
| JPEWhacker | pinkSnake: At least that's what it is on older versions, the exact task may be different in newer versions with the rss changes, but I think the idea is the same | 13:55 |
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| hamdyaea | I deleted the bzImage file. How can I recreate it ? | 13:56 |
| pinkSnake | @JPEWhacker ok cool thx for info :) | 13:56 |
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| pinkSnake | @hamdyaea bitbake virtual/kernel ? | 13:56 |
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| JPEWhacker | @hamdyaea if not, try: bitbake -f -c deploy virtual/kernel? | 13:59 |
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| hamdyaea | pinkSnake, JPEWhacker I am doing a core-image-x11 | 14:01 |
| hamdyaea | now I try that bitbake linux-yocto -c populate_sysroot -f | 14:02 |
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| maka_ | hey, i'm trying to build a package, but everytime i get an error at oe_runmake. It says: "fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory". Does anyone know what this could be? | 14:04 |
| pinkSnake | @hamdyaea i should follow @JPEWhacker advice | 14:06 |
| hamdyaea | pinkSnake, : ok I try it | 14:06 |
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| HavoK_ | hi I have a recipie for a systemd unit file. I am installing it in the systemd/system dir. My question is how do I get this service to run on boot up. I have to manually start it up each time I make a fresh card and start the system | 14:07 |
| HavoK_ | my bb file https://pastebin.com/HSWeLavQ | 14:07 |
| pinkSnake | @maka_ custom package ? | 14:07 |
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| maka_ | pinkSnake: nope, available on the internet | 14:09 |
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| maka_ | pinkSnake: the recipe is costum however | 14:10 |
| maka_ | custom* | 14:10 |
| HavoK_ | this is my .service unit file https://pastebin.com/Uu7qcwUh | 14:11 |
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| hamdyaea | bzimage is a virtual kernel ? | 14:12 |
| HavoK_ | from what I understand for the service to start automatically a link will need to be created in this directory systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants. It seems to happen for other unit files but not this one. | 14:13 |
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| ChrysD | HavoK_ : have done this way https://pastebin.com/Wpa5Q646 | 14:15 |
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| ChrysD | HavoK_ : I'm using systemd_system_unitdir instead of your systemd_unitdir | 14:17 |
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| HavoK_ | ChrysD let me try that quick | 14:18 |
| kergoth | HavoK_: SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE will run 'systemctl enable' on the unit file. what link is created depends on the contents of the unit file. | 14:18 |
| ChrysD | HavoK_ : Maybe in my case it work directly because i use Wants=systemd-udev-settle.service After=systemd-udev-settle.service | 14:20 |
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| hamdyaea | JPEWhacker, : bitbake -c clean virtual/kernel : it dont work. | 14:27 |
| hamdyaea | I still miss bzImage | 14:28 |
| hamdyaea | someone can help me ? | 14:28 |
| JPEWhacker | hamdyaee: can you try bitbake -c cleanall virtual/kernel ? | 14:29 |
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| hamdyaea | JPEWhacker, OK I Try | 14:30 |
| ChrysD | Do you know a good tutorial to customize a recipe ? I have to much difficulty with patch applying... | 14:32 |
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| HavoK_ | kergoth there are other files that work that are in the same layer. They don’t have SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE. Do I need to do this for each bb file? | 14:42 |
| ChrysD | HavoK_ : I thinks when you use after or wants with a service that will be up, it works | 14:44 |
| HavoK_ | ChrysD I have WantedBy=multi-user.target in my unit file | 14:45 |
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| ChrysD | HavoK_ : Wants=systemd-udev-settle.service After=systemd-udev-settle.service | 14:45 |
| HavoK_ | hmm | 14:46 |
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| ChrysD | HavoK_ : When you use After= i think your service will be run after the one you have listed | 14:48 |
| pinkSnake | @ChrysD what do you mean about applying patch ? | 14:49 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : I have a recipe, i would like to change it | 14:49 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : But the recipe isn't made by me. So I would like to patch it and put in my custom layer | 14:49 |
| nikincn | hi all sorry if there is an ongoing discussion I am interrupting | 14:50 |
| nikincn | my yocto deploy/images doesnt contain sdcard images | 14:51 |
| nikincn | where do i set this so that an sd card img is generated? | 14:51 |
| pinkSnake | @ChrysD i'm not an expert i added some patchs for u-boot, you have to add the file in SRC_URI --> file://0001-Add-MTD-and-MTDPARTS-config.patch and the recipe will aplly automaticly the patch during do_patch cmd | 14:52 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : I don' thave problem to apply a patch from somebody | 14:53 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : But i have a problem when I would like to patch my self | 14:53 |
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| pinkSnake | @ChrysD ha ok you want to create your own patch ? | 14:53 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : yeah | 14:53 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : everytime I get this => can't find file to patch at input line 5 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? | 14:53 |
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| hamdyaea | nikincn, : IMAGE_FSTYPES += "iso" then flash the .hddimg | 14:55 |
| nikincn | yeah google said same IMAGE_FSTYPES is what needs change but I dont know where is it ? | 14:56 |
| hamdyaea | nighty-, : in local.conf | 14:56 |
| nikincn | thanks but It is there in mine , so I just add it ? | 14:56 |
| hamdyaea | nikincn, : poky / build / conf | 14:56 |
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| pinkSnake | @ChrysD ok so i'm not expert and it's probably dirty but it works : you can use -c devshell <recipe_name>, do you changes and create patch --> git add <file>; git commit -s -m '<your commit's and patch's title>'; git format-patch -1 | 14:57 |
| hamdyaea | nikincn, : just add this line | 14:57 |
| nikincn | ok thanks | 14:58 |
| pinkSnake | @ChrysD take to use "git format-patch -1" in the checkout directory | 14:58 |
| pinkSnake | take care * | 14:58 |
| sveinse | I'd like to set localectl set-locale LANG=en_US.utf8 on postinst. Does it work to set this during host postinst, or must I run this on target? | 14:58 |
| sveinse | Or does Yocto have a scheme for setting default LANG in images? | 14:58 |
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| ChrysD | pinkSnake : I have done the same with quilt | 15:03 |
| ChrysD | pinkSnake : time to go out =) Thanks for you help ! Bye. | 15:03 |
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| pinkSnake | @ChrysD bye | 15:04 |
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| pinkSnake | @sveinse maybe a clue http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.3/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-IMAGE_LINGUAS | 15:08 |
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| hamdyaea | JPEWhacker, : It worked thx | 15:10 |
| nikincn | i tried adding IMAGE_FSTYPES I have only file with extension .tgz it is modules.........tgz can this be the sd card file? | 15:15 |
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| CTtpollard | nikincn: have you unzipped it with tar -xvzf ? | 15:16 |
| kergoth | nikincn: the modules tarball is the kernel modules, not an image. | 15:16 |
| hamdyaea | nikincn, : you need to bitbake again | 15:17 |
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| nikincn | ok so then i have nothing to extract for sdcard | 15:17 |
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| dv_ | hm poky pyro is still using bb.data.getVar() in its bitbake copy | 15:18 |
| sveinse | pinkSnake: No, I've searched the manuals and grepped the code to find info about this, but there is very little apparently | 15:19 |
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| sveinse | I can of course run "localctl set-local LANG=en_US.utf8" in one of our app's postinstalls, but it feels not to be the right place for this | 15:20 |
| dv_ | oh wait. nevermind. my mistake. | 15:20 |
| kergoth | sveinse: I don't know of any way to automatically set LANG short of modifying /etc. IMAGE_LINGUAS only controls what locales are installed, not configuration | 15:20 |
| sveinse | kergoth: right, ok | 15:20 |
| sveinse | kergoth: do you happen to know if utf-8 is available at all in yocto? | 15:21 |
| kergoth | i don't understand the question | 15:21 |
| kergoth | any locale supported by the c library works just fine | 15:21 |
| kergoth | it's just a linux system, not magic | 15:21 |
| sir_mivond | Where can I read about yocto best practices for maintaining a custom layer in source control? I am thinking I should have a folder in git, with a set of submodules, each being a separate meta-* layer? Also, What's the best way to offload as many settings as possible from local.conf? Put them into a custom image for my bsp? | 15:22 |
| pinkSnake | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/plain/meta/conf/local.conf.sample?h=bernard | 15:22 |
| kergoth | sir_mivond: that depends on what the setting is | 15:23 |
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| kergoth | sir_mivond: and submodules sounds like unnecessary complexity. just put everything in a git repo, either one git repo per layer or one repo with multiple layers | 15:23 |
| sveinse | kergoth: yes, and localctl list-locales on a krogoth target, lists en_US and en_GB. On my desktop it lists en_US and en_US.utf8, and our app is dependent on having utf-8 encoding available | 15:23 |
| kergoth | sveinse: so use IMAGE_LINGUAS to change what locales are installed | 15:23 |
| kergoth | or GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES to change which locales are produced in the first place | 15:24 |
| kergoth | IMAGE_LINGUAS defaults to en_US and en_GB, you canp ut whatever ones you want there | 15:24 |
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| sir_mivond | kergoth: yeah, i'm not a big fan of submodules, just didn't know if that was the way to go. I have a lot of settings in local.conf which set values for 3rd party recipes I'm using | 15:24 |
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| sveinse | kergoth: How for IMAGE_LANGUAS. It expects en-us (dash, not underbar), while the encoding is named en_US.utf8, so that does not work. | 15:24 |
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| kergoth | is there something stopping you from setting en-us.utf8? | 15:25 |
| kergoth | doesn't seem very difficult to me | 15:25 |
| sveinse | Next GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES does not respond to any items with .utf8 in them. No changes to the system apparently | 15:25 |
| kergoth | it's just going based on the binary packages emitted by the glibc-locale recipe | 15:25 |
| kergoth | you can look in tmp/deploy/ to see what ones exist | 15:25 |
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| kergoth | would be nice if it accepted the regular locale names and internally translated them to the package names, though | 15:26 |
| kergoth | hmmmm | 15:26 |
| * kergoth ponders | 15:28 | |
| sveinse | E: Unable to locate package locale-base-en-us.utf8 | 15:28 |
| sveinse | ^ while setting IMAGE_LINGUAS="en-us.utf8" | 15:28 |
| kergoth | ah, i see | 15:28 |
| kergoth | sveinse: check out LOCALE_UTF8_IS_DEFAULT | 15:29 |
| kergoth | ../poky/meta/conf/documentation.conf | 15:29 |
| kergoth | 269:LOCALE_UTF8_IS_DEFAULT[doc] = "If set, locale names are renamed such that those lacking an explicit encoding (e.g. en_US) will always be UTF-8, and non-UTF-8 encodings are | 15:29 |
| kergoth | renamed to, e.g., en_US.ISO-8859-1. Otherwise, the encoding is specified by glibc's SUPPORTED file. Not supported for precompiled locales." | 15:29 |
| kergoth | see also LOCALE_UTF8_ONLY | 15:29 |
| kergoth | so my guess is that's set to 1 for you right now, so your en_US is already utf8, hence the inability to explicitly choose a .utf8 variant | 15:29 |
| * kergoth stands corrected, didn't know about those vars | 15:30 | |
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| sveinse | yeah, its LOCALE_UTF8_IS_DEFAULT is default 1 (baah), and LOCALE_UTF8_ONLY is at the default 0 value | 15:31 |
| sveinse | right, which is good | 15:31 |
| kergoth | so the installed en_US and en_GB locales are already utf-8, picking one of those should do the job | 15:31 |
| kergoth | good to know | 15:31 |
| * sveinse wonders why the Qt app croaks when it sees a LANG name without ".utf8" suffix | 15:32 | |
| kergoth | was looking for an example configuration, and ran a grep -r locale.\*utf | 15:32 |
| kergoth | heh | 15:32 |
| sveinse | I had a suspicion that yocto was running utf8 in the first place, but that is was implicit | 15:33 |
| sveinse | No, you won't find too much utf-8 stuff (except file encodings) in the poky sources | 15:33 |
| kergoth | to clarify, it's a distro choice, defaulted to this in oe-core. not 'yocto'. i hate to nitpick, though :) | 15:35 |
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| sveinse | yeah, sure. *poky* has little mention about utf-8 | 15:35 |
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| sveinse | I'm wondering if "localectl set-locale LANG=whatever" is equivalent of echo "LANG=whatever" >/etc/locale.conf ... | 15:38 |
| sir_mivond | kergoth: For example, Mender (https://docs.mender.io/1.0/artifacts/building-mender-yocto-image). It provides update support. It has a list of settings you need in local.conf, but I'd much rather have these in some source control. I just don't know yocto best practices, i.e. set these in a bbappend, or in a custom image, etc. | 15:38 |
| kergoth | again, it depends on the setting | 15:38 |
| kergoth | each individual setting | 15:38 |
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| sir_mivond | right | 15:38 |
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| Crofton|work | sir_mivond, need to bug the mender guys about that | 15:38 |
| sir_mivond | their irc was dead last time I checked :/ | 15:39 |
| kergoth | distro, machine, and image are orthogonal axes of the build. it's important to keep them that way. so it's important to think carefully about what goes in each | 15:39 |
| sir_mivond | ok | 15:39 |
| Crofton|work | they do better on their list | 15:39 |
| Crofton|work | you have to catch them at the right time on irc :) | 15:40 |
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| Crofton|work | some of the local.conf is MACHINE specific and some liek using mender at all, is not clear to me | 15:40 |
| sir_mivond | ok, ill try to bug them | 15:40 |
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| kergoth | update mechanism sounds like one of those things that's specific to both, bsp has to support it, and distro has to want to use it | 15:41 |
| * kergoth shrugs | 15:41 | |
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| sir_mivond | right | 15:41 |
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| sveinse | If I'm not mistaking, localctl list-locales shows the locales which IMAGE_LINGUAS specify. How can I list runtime the locales specified with GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES ? | 15:41 |
| kergoth | GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES controls what locale packages exist | 15:42 |
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| kergoth | unless you've set up a package feed, you won't be abl eto see that on target | 15:42 |
| sveinse | right | 15:42 |
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| sveinse | is there a way to generate locale info (like AM/PM, date format), but not each package's locale package? | 15:43 |
| sveinse | When we added all the locales our app supports, the image increased by 150%, by 450Mb, due to all the locales for all apps. Which I don't want to include | 15:44 |
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| kergoth | probably want either locale-base, glibc-localedata, or glibc-binary-localedata. don't recall offahnd | 15:47 |
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| HavoK_ | Ok I tried systemd_system_unitdir and SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE | 15:54 |
| HavoK_ | still no luck the service doesn’t run on startup | 15:55 |
| HavoK_ | is there some way of seeing the debug for this recipe? I have recipes in the same folder that are working just not the ones I made and I mirrored them. | 15:56 |
| HavoK_ | and the unit file | 15:56 |
| sveinse | Should I expect changes to default-distrovars, such as LOCALE_UTF8_ONLY to automatically trigger the glibc recipes? It might seem it does not | 15:58 |
| kergoth | it should rebuild the appropriate recipes if you re-bitbake your image or the recipes in question | 16:05 |
| sir_mivond | If openembedded provides a recipe for a library, but I need a different version with different make targets and different src_uri, is it still better to use a bbappend, or make a new recipe in my (higher priority) layer? i'm not sure how to edit ${PV} in a bbappend | 16:06 |
| sir_mivond | and i don't know if i want to | 16:06 |
| kergoth | making a new recipe is best when changing version | 16:07 |
| sir_mivond | k, thanks | 16:07 |
| kergoth | particularly when the version is in the filename, but in general | 16:07 |
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| sir_mivond | right, that's what i was worried about | 16:07 |
| sir_mivond | it's in the file name | 16:07 |
| kergoth | less of an issue when e.g. changing SRCREV which changes the underlying version of an _git recipe, for example, but debatable there | 16:08 |
| kergoth | note that you can always require the existing version recipe in yours, rather than copying it | 16:08 |
| kergoth | of course, if upstream rmeoves that version, it'd break you, but.. | 16:08 |
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| sir_mivond | true | 16:09 |
| kergoth | i.e. 'require recipes-foo/bar/bar_1.0.bb' at the top of yours. your call which approach you want to take there | 16:09 |
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| sir_mivond | ok thanks kergoth | 16:11 |
| kergoth | np | 16:11 |
| sir_mivond | I'm beyond the initial hurdle of learning yocto principles, now it's learning best practices | 16:12 |
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| sveinse | I have GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES in the image recipe, which when being changed, does not trigger glibc rebuild | 16:14 |
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| rburton | *in the image recipe* | 16:15 |
| rburton | so glibc won't see it | 16:15 |
| sveinse | Apparently this is a distro feature, and it can go to local.conf. How can I learn about which vars is scoped to what? Is there a tip for that? | 16:16 |
| rburton | if its a variable that glibc recipe listens to then you need to set it in a location where it can see it | 16:16 |
| rburton | such as local or distro conf | 16:16 |
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| sveinse | Well, to be honest, as entry user, I find it completely logical to have such configs in the image recipe, because that is where you collect all packages for your image, right. So apparently this is something I should have known. | 16:18 |
| kergoth | one recipe can't touch the metadata of another | 16:18 |
| kergoth | GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES isn't used in the image, it's used by another recipe | 16:19 |
| kergoth | GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES is about how somehting *builds*, what packages get *created*, not what ones go into the image | 16:19 |
| sveinse | So generically, how can I know what is scoped to where? Grepping and then seeing another recipe => distro/local config? | 16:19 |
| kergoth | at that point it's too late | 16:19 |
| sveinse | yeah I understand that -- and it makes sense now. But I had to struggle a bit to get there in lack of knowledge | 16:20 |
| kergoth | i'd expect what it affects / where it should be defined to be covered in the reference documentation on the variables. if not, i'd see that as a documentation gap | 16:20 |
| kergoth | but yes, worst case grep would tell you where things are used | 16:21 |
| kergoth | https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxb6uxlputaupmj/OpenEmbedded%20-%20Metadata%20Structure%20-%20Distro%2C%20Machine%2C%20Image.txt?dl=0 might be of interest. be warned the writing isn't the best | 16:21 |
| sveinse | :D I have a text editor with grep in one window, and the mega manual in the other. So yeah, you need both to navigate yocto/poky | 16:22 |
| sveinse | Yes, I think it starts to be high time I make custom DISTRO | 16:23 |
| sveinse | I'm currently overloading poky and core-image, but as pointed out, quite a few variables are being set there | 16:24 |
| sveinse | aaahhhhh | 16:24 |
| sveinse | That's why: I see that I can set IMAGE_LINGUAS from the image recipe, but not GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALE. But that is completely misplaced and being invisible from glibc which needs it | 16:25 |
| * sveinse had an epiphany | 16:26 | |
| sveinse | Tomorrow I'll learn how to make a distro | 16:28 |
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| rburton | sveinse: cp poky.conf mydistro.conf | 16:29 |
| sveinse | rburton: not inherit it? | 16:30 |
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| rburton | only if you want to base your distro on poky explicitly | 16:30 |
| rburton | best to just copy and then delete/change as required | 16:30 |
| sveinse | rburton: well I am today, but thanks for the tip | 16:30 |
| rburton | tbh, a minimal distro.conf is basically empty | 16:30 |
| HavoK_ | so I noticed teh runtime script that gets generated has a difference betwen the unit file that works and the one that doesn’t work https://www.diffchecker.com/AhUNOh37 | 16:31 |
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| HavoK_ | one is using ${SYSTEMD_SERVICE} variable the other is using the actual service name | 16:31 |
| HavoK_ | I have SYSTEMD_SERVICE_${PN} set to the correct service | 16:32 |
| sveinse | kergoth: thanks for the document | 16:33 |
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| kergoth | np | 16:34 |
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| sveinse | So if I have got this right, GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES determines which locales glibc is generating (if not all), while IMAGE_LINGUAS is an image command which selects which of those locales to include into the image. Is this correct? | 16:36 |
| rburton | sounds right | 16:37 |
| sveinse | great, thanks | 16:37 |
| rburton | we *really* need a bit in the manual about this | 16:37 |
| khem | rburton: I updated kraj/master with todays master | 16:37 |
| rburton | feel free to start a wiki page with a list of relevant variables and pakage names | 16:37 |
| rburton | khem: cool. still waiting on the 4.1 stuff though... | 16:37 |
| khem | rburton: there still are some package fixes which can be applied independent of gcc7 update | 16:37 |
| khem | rburton: no new updates though just a rebase | 16:38 |
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| rburton | khem: yeah we're diverging today so i'll be picking the safe bits. can you post the series to the list so everything that goes in has been on the list at least once? | 16:39 |
| sveinse | rburton: the implicit utf-8 stuff could need mention as well. I see from googling about it that the yocto mailing list has occational questions about precisely the same as I had today: How to set LANG="something.utf-8" | 16:39 |
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| RP | khem, rburton, kergoth: I did just diverge things and started to take some "safe" pieces into testing. Also cleared some of my own patch queue | 16:56 |
| RP | still torn on the parallelisation changes without pseudo fixes :/ | 16:56 |
| RP | seebs: did you have a chance to try any further experiments? | 16:56 |
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| seebs | not yet, sorry. everything's happening at once. how practical is it to just bump open files with ulimit? | 16:59 |
| seebs | that said, i was thinking about this | 16:59 |
| seebs | for this to happen, we have to have ~1k processes running *within one recipe*. | 16:59 |
| seebs | because if they're not all in the same recipe, they should be different pseudo servers. | 16:59 |
| seebs | and if we're seeing 1k processes in a single recipe, that sounds unduly high. like, it feels like this shouldn't be what actually happens. | 17:00 |
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| HavoK_ | ok finally got the systemd unit file to work on boot after a fresh image i had to add | 17:09 |
| HavoK_ | NATIVE_SYSTEMD_SUPPORT = "1" | 17:09 |
| HavoK_ | SYSTEMD_PACKAGES = "${PN}" | 17:09 |
| HavoK_ | most scripts I saw were happy with just SYSTEMD_SERVICE_${PN} = | 17:09 |
| HavoK_ | not sure why that was the case but it works now | 17:10 |
| kergoth | huh | 17:11 |
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| RP | seebs: its more complex than that. The number of threads is getting set at ~176 on this machine. There are four tasks running in parallel, two being heavily parallelised. Its not entirely surprising it can exceed 1000 open files :/ | 22:49 |
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