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| hamdy | I need to have MxDateTime module for python on my Yocto image. When I try to install it. I have the error that i need python.h. How can I install python-dev package in yocto ? | 07:23 |
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| hamdy | I need to have MxDateTime module for python on my Yocto image. When I try to install it. I have the error that i need python.h. How can I install python-dev package in yocto ? | 08:01 |
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| robsta | hello | 08:23 |
| robsta | is anyone using yocto in a CI environment auto-updating the git references in the recipes automatically? | 08:24 |
| robsta | at least for a pre-merge gate or something? | 08:24 |
| robsta | we are building such a system and I'm wondering if it would make things easier to have all the git references in one central file, and just refer to variables from the recipes | 08:25 |
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| LetoThe2nd | robsta: not sure if i understand you correctly. you mean that you want to have a ci running, that you just feed a bunch of git hashes and then it runs the build | 08:27 |
| robsta | yes, kind of | 08:27 |
| robsta | when a new commit comes into one of the repos holding the code, i need to run a build/test cycle before merging | 08:28 |
| robsta | a file-format that is easily machine editable and holds the git revisions for each recipe would help | 08:28 |
| fherr | Hey, someone has experience with building python packages on yocto, i got one package (python-kivy) wich has dependencies to python-cython, but wenn i try to build on my machine its always says "Cython is missing, Its required to compile Kivy." , building it outside of yocto is working ... | 08:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | robsta: ah ok. nah, then what we are doing is something different | 08:31 |
| hamdy | I need to have MxDateTime module for python on my Yocto image. When I try to install it. I have the error that i need python.h. How can I install python-dev package in yocto ? | 08:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | fherr: chances are that the cython detection of this kivy thing is broken for crosscompilation | 08:31 |
| fherr | ok, i will look deeper into that | 08:33 |
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| LetoThe2nd | fherr: guess you are basing the recipe off something like http://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-python/recipes-extended/python-cson/python-cson_git.bb | 08:34 |
| fherr | yes right, and added python-cython to rdepends and denpends | 08:35 |
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| robsta | LetoThe2nd: do you feel it would be a wild violation of the bitbake concept? | 08:37 |
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| LetoThe2nd | robsta: i don't see how it would violate the bibake concept. in fact it would *use* bitbake. you'd have to automatically create some staging area in which the test build is set up and done by bibake | 08:40 |
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| robsta | LetoThe2nd: yes, ok, well, it would take info away from the recipe and centralise it | 08:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | robsta: well the way how you create your layers and recipe files is totally up to you, i personally don't see a problem | 08:42 |
| robsta | cool, thanks | 08:42 |
| LetoThe2nd | robsta: nobody says that the layer has to be a repo of its own. you can certainly have some kind of meta-layer thats just a bunch of magic to create the recipes. it probably will complicate artifact reuse (-> sstate cache) but i don't see no algorithmic argument against it. | 08:44 |
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| robsta | we have one repo per layer fwiw | 08:44 |
| robsta | but i'm looking for a machine-rewritable way of setting git refs | 08:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | one repo per layer is the classic and most wdely used approach of course | 08:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | but nobody says that the layers that bitbake sees have to be maintained by humans. | 08:46 |
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| robsta | maybe the recipe could default to building git master, but then that could overwritable with a variable from a central conf file | 08:51 |
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| LetoThe2nd | robsta: its only software, everything is possible. the question is just, how far you want to go in breaking sstate or reproductibility for your case. | 08:54 |
| robsta | but we are already using a variable SRC_URI in a .inc file for each recipe | 08:56 |
| robsta | does it not expand the value when checking for sstate cache matches? | 08:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | it should | 08:58 |
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| LetoThe2nd | it just means you'd lieft the automated generation out of the recipes into the conf file. | 08:59 |
| robsta | shall try | 09:00 |
| robsta | cheers LetoThe2nd | 09:00 |
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| rburton | uhoh robsta is here | 09:54 |
| robsta | just like last few months? :) | 09:55 |
| rburton | here and asking ;) | 09:55 |
| rburton | robsta: for 'latest and greatest' CI style building you can set SRCREV to ${AUTOREV} | 09:55 |
| rburton | which goes to the git repo and gets the latest HEAD | 09:55 |
| robsta | hm not sure we want that | 09:55 |
| rburton | you can do that through a conf file, so your layers can have SRCREV=12345 for the known good, but the CI system can override with latest HEAD | 09:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: thats what i would have mentioned if he had said "sure, i totally want to break reproductibility" | 09:56 |
| rburton | definitely putting AUTOREV in an actual recipe is a capital punishment | 09:56 |
| rburton | if you have the hashes in advance you can override srcrev the same way | 09:56 |
| robsta | rburton: do you have a recipe/project online where i can look at it? | 09:57 |
| rburton | just set SRCREV_pn-recipename = "the hash" in a configuration file somewhere, ie your CIs local.conf | 09:57 |
| rburton | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta-poky/conf/distro/include/poky-floating-revisions.inc | 09:58 |
| rburton | thats part of poky-bleeding, a fairly unknown poky variation that does builds of git tip | 09:58 |
| robsta | rburton: still not 100% sold because we want to build a branch in CI and merge if tests good | 10:00 |
| robsta | that would make a point for doing it with actual hashes | 10:00 |
| rburton | then you may need to rewrite the SRC_URI anyway as there is hash/branch validation | 10:00 |
| rburton | oh that example was using autorev, but if you replace autorev with a real hash then its the same | 10:01 |
| rburton | it was an example of how to do what you were asking | 10:01 |
| rburton | *but* if you want to build a different branch then you'll hit the branch/hash validation, which checks that the sha you say is actually on the branch you asked for | 10:01 |
| robsta | is it really SRC_URI and SRCREV? | 10:04 |
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| rburton | yes | 10:05 |
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| rburton | ah you can set nobranch=1 in the SRC_URI if you want to disable branch validation, you could do that in the layer always and then just fiddle SRCREV to change what you build | 10:07 |
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| robsta | thanks rburton guess i have to ask you a bit more about it some time | 10:12 |
| rburton | sure | 10:12 |
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| rburton | you know where to find me ;) | 10:12 |
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| rburton | ed2: did you see my mail last night? | 10:37 |
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| rburton | oh you replied sorry :) | 10:37 |
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| ed2 | rburton: yes, I did and answered. Can you show me the link to the build? | 11:08 |
| ed2 | rburton: I'll try to reproduce it. | 11:08 |
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| fberg | Hello guys ! Does anybody know how to include a package which is RPROVIDE by recipea.bb as a RDEPENDS of recipeb.bb ? | 11:15 |
| fberg | I've tried RDEPENDS="package_name" in recipeb but bitbake doesn't like it | 11:15 |
| zero_note | fberg: note that should be RDEPENDS_${PN} += "pkgname" | 11:16 |
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| fberg | ty zero_note | 11:18 |
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| zero_note | yw | 11:21 |
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| jku | bug 11751 really shows how you never know with performance. Patch that switched to multi-threaded xz has been flagged for perf regression... | 11:36 |
| yocti | Bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11751 normal, Undecided, ---, leonardo.sandoval.gonzalez, NEW , Performance regressions detected on core-image-sato and virtual/kernel at 2.4M1 rc1 | 11:36 |
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| ed2 | rburton: is it this build? https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-arm-lsb/builds/1131/steps/BuildImages_1/logs/stdio | 12:04 |
| ed2 | rburton: mips and arm builds were failing, right? | 12:05 |
| rburton | no https://autobuilder.yocto.io/builders/nightly-arm/builds/389 | 12:05 |
| ed2 | rburton: btw, the log shows incorrect environment: IMAGE_FSTYPES=tar.gz | 12:05 |
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| rburton | hm | 12:08 |
| rburton | the selftest failed a few wic tests too https://autobuilder.yocto.io/builders/nightly-oe-selftest/builds/362/steps/Running%20oe-selftest/logs/stdio | 12:10 |
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| ed2 | rburton: looks like you took more than this patchset into ross/mut: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-June/138802.html | 12:22 |
| rburton | yeah | 12:22 |
| rburton | going to rip out and try again :) | 12:22 |
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| ed2 | rburton: that explains failing oe-selftest, but doesn't explain image_tar failure. I'm trying to reproduce it. | 12:23 |
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| clement | Hi everyone, do you know if it is possible to make a fetchall for a populate_sdk task? | 12:34 |
| rburton | what are you trying to do? | 12:37 |
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| clement | i would like to populate sdk with no network | 12:46 |
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| rburton | i'd be a bit surprised if just fetchall on the image didn't get enough | 12:47 |
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| clement | ok, i may make a mistake but i just tried it, it was missing some stuff, thank you | 12:49 |
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| clement | just one example, it was missing chrpath | 12:51 |
| rburton | you could try fetchall on buildtools-tarball too | 12:54 |
| clement | rburton: ok thx | 12:54 |
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| phako[m] | is there some documentation for opkg.cnf flying around somewhere? | 13:17 |
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| zero_note | hi guys, is bitbake-env something currently under development? | 13:29 |
| * rburton wonder what bitbake-env is | 13:31 | |
| zero_note | rburton: I was refreshing some bitbake commands, reading http://elinux.org/Bitbake_Cheat_Sheet , at the bottom of the page you can find it under "Additional bitbake-related commands" (not sure how much reliable it is) | 13:34 |
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| zero_note | and kergoth should know something about :) | 13:34 |
| rburton | depexp is now taskexp | 13:35 |
| rburton | well the bitbake-env link doesnt work so i guess thats a no? | 13:35 |
| zero_note | ok, found my answer https://gist.github.com/kergoth/4133101 | 13:36 |
| zero_note | rburton: indeed, thx for checking | 13:37 |
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| RP | kergoth: I'm tempted to add that to bitbake itself, maybe as "bitbake-var" as users probably see this as variables, not an environment. Any thoughts on that? | 14:02 |
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| nathani_ | I'm trying to make a recipe for a package that uses cmake. Unfortunately this project builds in the source path and then directly links to a library in the build output. | 14:32 |
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| nathani_ | I've patched the cmakelists so that it now builds in the build directory, but I'm still getting an rpath error during packaging | 14:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | nathani_: look at the autotools-brokensep class | 14:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | its not optimal, but often its easier to just build in-tree instead of doing the big patching thing. | 14:34 |
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| nathani_ | LetoThe2nd: thanks for the advice | 14:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | IIRC its not much more than B = S | 14:38 |
| nathani_ | yeah, i see that :) | 14:38 |
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| nathani_ | still getting rpath error patebin.com/rqC351qW | 14:41 |
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| nathani_ | I can see the -rpath,/foo/foo/foo in the link.txt, but am unsure how to track this down as I don't have much experience with cmake | 14:45 |
| nathani_ | or do I just -DCMAKE_SKIP_RPATH and everything will be fine? | 14:46 |
| neverpanic | nathani_: does your CMakeLists.txt have an install rule for the binary? | 14:47 |
| neverpanic | Or are you, by chance, writing your own do_install() that just copies the file from the build directory? | 14:47 |
| nathani_ | no, cmakelists installs | 14:48 |
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| ed2 | rburton: I can't reproduce it :( | 14:59 |
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| kergoth | zero_note: bitbake-env went away in favor of a subcommand (show) of the 'bb' experimental sub-command based utility, which is currently broken and not yet fixed due to changes in tinfoil (bitbake's library used for external utilities). also neither of them supported the new variable tracking mechanism. but yes, i think | 15:09 |
| kergoth | RP: it's not a bad idea. I'd still like to prototype integration of a sub-command based cli ui, but that can always be a future step, it's clear bitbake-env/bb-show provides value on its own, bitbake -e | grep is common and quite ugly | 15:10 |
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| zero_note | kergoth: ok, thanks for the explanation | 15:16 |
| RP | kergoth: agreed on a cli, I still have shell.py around as a partial inspiration for that and this wouldn't preclude that | 15:17 |
| kergoth | zero_note, RP: I was never 100% happy with the interface of that tool, for what it's worth. for scripting, you really also want the ability to see *just the value* of the variable, rather than having to sed out the quotes and whatnot, but then what's the behavior if you set that and pass multiple variables? could just error, but that doesn't seem super clean.. also it would need variable tracking support added, and desperately needs the ability to | 15:19 |
| kergoth | accept FOO[bar] syntax to see specific flags rather than having to look at all flags for a specified variable.. | 15:19 |
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| zero_note | imho, bitbake -e recipe | grep become usable only after several times of usage, when one knows how to customize the grep reg expression | 15:20 |
| RP | kergoth: some kind of stripped output or value only shouldn't be too difficult and yes, those other things are valid issues | 15:20 |
| kergoth | zero_note: yeah. you can write a shell function to semi-automate it, but only for the common case, it doesn't scale well, and is rather brittle | 15:21 |
| kergoth | would also be nice to be able to get the unexpanded value without having to grep out the commented section, and a better way to extract the varaible tracking data for a particular variable in a more script-friendly format.. | 15:25 |
| kergoth | being limited to the shell-like output bitbake -e provides isn't ideal — there's a reason we did it that way, but.. | 15:25 |
| kergoth | at any rate, i do think we should integrate such a script, but i'd like to see a discussion about the details | 15:26 |
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| kergoth | the upside to the current behavior is the output is nearly in bitbake metadata format. that's a possibility, too, for the variable tracking — it could optionally emit the multiple bitbake format lines that led to the final value, rather than the final assignment itself | 15:27 |
| * kergoth shrugs :) | 15:27 | |
| kergoth | I used bb-show often enough that I ran into the weaknesses as often as its benefits | 15:28 |
| zero_note | I'd be glad to see a discussion about too, as junior dev I don't think I can give any help on the dev side, but as yocto user maybe could be worth | 15:29 |
| RP | kergoth: real world usage is invaluable... | 15:29 |
| kergoth | zero_note: that's a valuable perspective, and we'd appreciate it. It's not always easy to see things from a beginner perspective once your'e not a beginner anymore | 15:29 |
| kergoth | i know I suck at it | 15:30 |
| RP | kergoth: I used to be better at it :( | 15:30 |
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| joshuagl | I recently realised that it's one of the many things that requires time to stop and think | 15:32 |
| * RP was just thinking lack of time doesn't help | 15:33 | |
| joshuagl | I took time to think on the train this morning, it was wonderful. Made me remember why I like this career | 15:33 |
| kergoth | http://www.useronboard.com/features-vs-benefits/ comes to mind | 15:36 |
| kergoth | particularly http://www.useronboard.com/imgs/posts/mario-water.png | 15:36 |
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| zero_note | kergoth: from my point of view, in 90% of cases my yocto problems comes when I don't understand completely how yocto works in its single components, eg: how and when some variables being expanded, or how the sstate really works | 15:40 |
| zero_note | stuff like this | 15:40 |
| kergoth | that's fair, there's a lot going on | 15:40 |
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| zero_note | and it these scenarios "grepping" around becomes my (slow but) favourite tool | 15:41 |
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| zero_note | *in | 15:41 |
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| lsandov | rburton: patchtest will start catching (finally) metadata issues, line checksums changed without reason on the commit description, all thanks to tinfoil | 16:21 |
| lsandov | rburton: just need to update the guest machine used to exec patchtest. Hopefully early next week | 16:21 |
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| khem | RP: do we care to update gcc6 to 6.4 in master ? | 17:43 |
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| otavio | RP: considering my tests here, it seems multiconfig has problems when you build two different tunes for same arch in same tmpdir (e.g armv5 and armv7a) | 19:15 |
| otavio | RP: different arches seems fine | 19:15 |
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| mortderire | folks | 20:00 |
| mortderire | I can't seem to select SystemD as my runtime manager? | 20:01 |
| mortderire | https://pastebin.com/hybkrXjd | 20:01 |
| mortderire | Any clues? | 20:01 |
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| libby1 | Does anyone know what has happened to Jeffro? I see him off line but in vacation planner he does not appear. | 20:29 |
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| jpew | mortderire: is that from your local.conf? | 20:33 |
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| RP | otavio: I'll have to see if I can reproduce. There is something odd going on... | 20:55 |
| otavio | RP: likely | 20:56 |
| otavio | RP: I am building qemuarm and imx6qsabresd for test | 20:56 |
| RP | otavio: I don't have imx6qsabresd handy but I guess beaglebone (armv7) should do it | 20:56 |
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| RP | I can quickly try that after meetings | 20:57 |
| otavio | RP: I guess so | 20:57 |
| otavio | RP: right; it is not urgent but getting multiconfig working should speed up builds and tests | 20:57 |
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| otavio | rburton: I sent a stable backport for mesa 17.1.4 that fixes an issue for etnaviv. | 21:37 |
| jpew | Anyone know of a utility to flatten a bitbake file by expanding all the includes and requires in place? | 21:37 |
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| otavio | jpew: bitbake-layers has it, IIRC | 21:39 |
| jpew | k, thanks! | 21:40 |
| lsandov | jpew: also bitbake -e target can do the job | 21:41 |
| lsandov | jpew: but it has much more that the recipe itself | 21:43 |
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| RP | otavio: I only get one set of sigs for beaglebone and qemuarm | 21:46 |
| RP | otavio: meta-freescale doesn't work with master? Are you testing against pyro? | 21:49 |
| RP | otavio: so using meta-freescale, imx6qsabresd and qemuarm also gives the same sigs. | 21:51 |
| RP | otavio: what else are you including layer wise? a specific distro? | 21:51 |
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| jpew | Ya, I was looking to flatten my machine.conf file so I could send it to a 3rd party easily, but I realized that I only included things from poky, which they should have anyway, so it was unnecessary. bitbake -e wasn't quite what I was looking for :) | 22:01 |
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