| armpit | rburton, I will have to double check. I think I have everything in rocko except the libcrypt changes which are a problem. | 00:00 |
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| armpit | rburton, its for morty ; ) to trouble shoot a problem in I saw in Ubunut 17 | 00:01 |
| armpit | rburton, why are you awake? | 00:02 |
| rburton | armpit: literally just dropped from our planning meeting | 00:02 |
| rburton | hooray tri-zone meetings, 11pm-1am for me | 00:02 |
| armpit | wow | 00:02 |
| rburton | the guy in penang, 6am-8am | 00:03 |
| rburton | but now, bedtime :) | 00:03 |
| armpit | night | 00:03 |
| rburton | armpit: rocko failed selftest btw | 00:04 |
| armpit | I saw | 00:04 |
| armpit | thanks | 00:04 |
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| LetoThe2nd | i did kick off a qemuarm core image minimal build on ec2 micro for the fun of it. 36hrs and counting. | 06:39 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Yocto 2.4.2 failed to do_package_qa task <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50247702/yocto-2-4-2-failed-to-do-package-qa-task> || How to check for not equal to values in bb.utils.contains() <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50247658/how-to-check-for-not-equal-to-values-in-bb-utils-contains> || Yocto build broken when setting a remote rpm repository with https <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50230447/yocto-build-broken-when-setting-a-remote-rpm-repository-with-https> | 07:26 |
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| sveinse_ | Where I can I find info about the relationship between PV, SRCPV and PKPV ? | 08:10 |
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| sveinse | (lost connection for a sec there if someone replied) | 08:12 |
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| angelo_ts | hi all, i am on a debian sid, and getting this error | 10:16 |
| angelo_ts | ERROR: Task (virtual:native:/home/angelo/git/bounty/lm-toolchain-yocto/poky/meta/recipes-devtools/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs_1.43.4.bb:do_compile) failed with exit code '1' | 10:16 |
| angelo_ts | my collegues uses same yocto from our internal git, but they are on stable ubutnu distros and all works | 10:17 |
| angelo_ts | is there a way to fix this without impacting other guys that are on ubuntu stable and properly building ? | 10:18 |
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| osse | When bitbake starts running it prints out the main build config vars as well as layer versions. Can I get this information in a script-friendly manner? | 10:26 |
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| sveinse | Is there a way to override the branch field only from local.conf for a recipe's SRC_URI="...;branch=..." ? | 10:42 |
| sveinse | I tried setting BRANCH_pn-recipename="", but for some reason in a task being run after do_unpack before do_patch it is still master | 10:44 |
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| sveinse | I thought BRANCH_pn-* would work, I'm sure it did once. So either that has been removed from Rocko or the taskpoint after do_unpack before do_patch is too early for the repo to be checked out correctly | 10:46 |
| malu1 | angelo_ts: I ran into e2fsprogs issues with ubuntu 18.04 host toolchain - solved by upgrading e2fsprogs to latest version available. | 10:49 |
| angelo_ts | malu1, ok thanks | 10:49 |
| angelo_ts | likely i will have other issues about libc later | 10:49 |
| malu1 | angelo_ts: yes, you might run into glibc 2.27 issues as I did | 10:50 |
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| angelo_ts | malu1, yep, thats' it | 10:51 |
| angelo_ts | what you did then ? | 10:51 |
| malu1 | angelo_ts: if so you might considering using 'INHERIT_remove = "uninative"' which will make sure everything is built from scratch which solves glibc 2.27 not being detected. | 10:52 |
| malu1 | as far as I understand the uninative stuff makes u use a prebuilt toolchain etc. which is not compatible with the latest glibc 2.27 changes. | 10:53 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: If the same code is built at different folders using arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-gcc, the resulting binary will have different contents <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50174593/if-the-same-code-is-built-at-different-folders-using-arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-gcc> | 11:27 |
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| rburton | RP: did you already pick anuj's gst updates into next? (the v4 and v2 sent at 5am) | 11:40 |
| RP | rburton: yes | 11:42 |
| rburton | cool | 11:42 |
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| rburton | argh looked at the wget fetcher again and now i want to rewrite it all in Requests | 11:52 |
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| RP | rburton: the wget fetcher used to be so simple too :( | 12:18 |
| angelo_ts | malu, many thanks | 12:18 |
| angelo_ts | so what you suggest as best way of working: INHERIT_remove = "uninative" or yocto in a container ? | 12:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | angelo_ts: certainly the container way. building a moving target on a moving host is very prone to break things, and not using uninative is a bandaid for this particular breakage only. | 12:19 |
| angelo_ts | LetoThe2nd, thanks. There was around a guide for yocto into container =? | 12:21 |
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| malu | angelo_ts: I'm not the right guy to answer that as I'm not sure what the full consequence is of not using uninative. | 12:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | angelo_ts: depends on your usage in the end. but a rather simple usecase is to just have fixed ubuntu version with all needed stuff installed, a user account, mount the work directory inside. | 12:22 |
| RP | rburton: hmm, failure in clutter-gst now :( | 12:23 |
| rburton | RP: yeah just testing an upgrade for that now | 12:24 |
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| rburton | RP: the qemu failure is most annoying, i wonder what caused that | 12:26 |
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| RP | rburton: qemu upgrade? | 12:34 |
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| rburton | oh yeah that would be it ;) | 12:34 |
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| rburton | oh right i turned on llvmpipe, that explains why mesa is taking an age to build | 12:37 |
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| rburton | RP: clutter upgrade on the list | 13:04 |
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| RP | rburton: that fixes that failure? | 13:07 |
| rburton | yeah | 13:08 |
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| RP | rburton: safe to pull that, drop the qemu upgrade and merge or needs another run? | 13:10 |
| rburton | i'd be happier with another run tbh | 13:12 |
| rburton | i'll have a quick look at what changed in qemu | 13:12 |
| JaMa | what is the "qemu failure"? | 13:20 |
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| JaMa | I've noticed that you reverted the earlier CVE patch before doing the upgrade, I have v2 which removed the patch together with the upgrade, but that should end-up the same | 13:20 |
| rburton | JaMa: yeah that was meant to be squashed in before merge | 13:20 |
| rburton | i think we need to explicitly disable sdl in the no-x builds as that is now depending on x keysyms | 13:21 |
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| JaMa | so qemu fails to build for you? | 13:22 |
| rburton | if you remove x11 distro feature, yes | 13:22 |
| JaMa | here I'm building it with spice/virgl/gtk3 enabled, so I might see different issue | 13:22 |
| JaMa | target qemu or nativesdk or native? | 13:23 |
| RP | JaMa: target | 13:23 |
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| rburton | target, https://autobuilder.yocto.io/builders/nightly-no-x11/builds/993/steps/BuildImages/logs/stdio | 13:23 |
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| JaMa | I'll trigger the build to see if I can reproduce here with no-x11 distro | 13:24 |
| JaMa | heh qemu was skipped: Recipe is blacklisted: depends on blacklisted libsdl | 13:25 |
| JaMa | conf/distro/include/webos-recipe-blacklist-world.inc:PNBLACKLIST[libglu] ?= "broken: we don't build libGL with mesa: cannot find -lGL" | 13:26 |
| JaMa | conf/distro/include/webos-recipe-blacklist-world.inc:PNBLACKLIST[libsdl] ?= "depends on broken libglu" | 13:26 |
| rburton | heh | 13:28 |
| rburton | libglu should build against mesa-gl just fine | 13:29 |
| JaMa | I've added these long time ago (definitely before dylan was released) and they wasn't revisited since then (except very few cases when someone actually needed something blacklisted) | 13:32 |
| JaMa | but libsdl2 is better anyway, because it supports accelerated gl | 13:33 |
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| u1106_ | I reorganized my local SRC_MIRROR and now 1 do_fetch task fails. The src file in question looks good to me in the reorganized mirror. The do_fetch log does not really tell from where it tried to get the file. Can the logging level of the fetcher class be increased? | 14:44 |
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| RP | u1106_: you could try running the task as bitbake <target> -c fetch -DDDv | 15:04 |
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| rburton | JaMa: looks like the qemu upgrade makes the assumption that sdl == x11, so we need to guard the sdl packageconfig with x11 DISTRO_FEATURE checks. also change to libsdl2 at the same time? | 15:34 |
| JaMa | rburton: there are more changes needed to make libsdl2 really usable, see: http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=jansa/qemu | 15:36 |
| rburton | ok fine by me | 15:36 |
| rburton | libsdl 1.x is dead isn't it? | 15:37 |
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| rburton | JaMa: replied on list | 15:38 |
| JaMa | ok, will send v2 after reproducing this | 15:39 |
| rburton | i can replicate just by removing x11 from distro features | 15:40 |
| rburton | so should be easy enough | 15:40 |
| u1106_ | RP: I don't see that that gives me any more information. There is a lots of additional information concerning all the steps before it does the do_fetch. But I don't think that is relevant to my problem. The information inside tmp/work/foo/bar/temp/log.do_fetch.12345 does not get any more detailed :( | 15:41 |
| kergoth | do_fetch's log should show every mirror url being checked, as well as info about the url processing done by PREMIRRORS | 15:43 |
| RP | u1106_: I agree with kergoth, the fetch logs usually are pretty verbose :/ | 15:44 |
| kergoth | i usually find the 'returning ..' messages that show what substitutions were applied in mirror processing to be helpful when diagnosing mirror issues | 15:45 |
| kergoth | make sur ethe pathsss are correct | 15:45 |
| u1106_ | hmm, I don't see that. Will compare with a sucessful do_fetch | 15:45 |
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| tlwoerner | rburton: ping? | 15:50 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: wot | 15:50 |
| tlwoerner | wrt the github.com/${PN}/archive issue | 15:50 |
| tlwoerner | switching to github.com/${PN}/releases is considered okay? | 15:50 |
| rburton | generally not as thats the same url | 15:50 |
| rburton | the acceptable fixes are 1) git fetch 2) maintainer-uploaded tarball | 15:51 |
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| rburton | note that the actual tarball links in /releases/ are typically actually /archive/ | 15:51 |
| rburton | unless its a maintainer uploaded tarball, which is fine | 15:52 |
| tlwoerner | http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=9c668f9ff989a34e615e2ecc051dadbfe24a5bb4 | 15:52 |
| rburton | yes, see https://github.com/logrotate/logrotate/releases | 15:52 |
| rburton | logrotate-3.14.0.tar.gz is a maintainer-uploaded tarball | 15:52 |
| rburton | "Source code" is a /archive/ tarball | 15:52 |
| rburton | compare with https://github.com/madler/pigz/releases which doesn't have maintainer-uploaded tarballs | 15:53 |
| tlwoerner | ah, okay | 15:53 |
| rburton | the tarball URL for the uploaded tarballs is eg https://github.com/logrotate/logrotate/releases/download/3.14.0/logrotate-3.14.0.tar.gz | 15:55 |
| rburton | note the lack of /archive/ | 15:55 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: In devtool command line tool is finish subcommand removed or replaced? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50257348/in-devtool-command-line-tool-is-finish-subcommand-removed-or-replaced> | 15:57 |
| tlwoerner | rburton: i was hoping to find an example in oe-core of switching from github archive to git, it looks like all the cleanups that were done, were all able to switch to developer-generated tarballs | 15:59 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: switching to git is trivial, just change the src_uri and set S=WORKDIR/git | 16:00 |
| tlwoerner | rburton: and i'll need a SRCREV? | 16:00 |
| tlwoerner | do i need to change the name of the recipe from ${PN}_${PV}.bb to ${PN}_git.bb ? | 16:01 |
| rburton | yeah, set it to the sha of the tag | 16:01 |
| rburton | no need to rename if it continues to be based on releases | 16:01 |
| tlwoerner | ok, thanks :-) | 16:02 |
| rburton | imho, _git recipes should be reserved for recipes which track arbitrary commits, not releases | 16:02 |
| rburton | the version is still valid, even if it does fetch over git instead of tarball | 16:02 |
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| JaMa | FWIW: I prefer _git.bb and PV set inside, that way setting SRCREV_pn-foo somewhere won't produce so confusing results | 16:05 |
| rburton | FIGHT! | 16:05 |
| JaMa | we have recipes-connectivity/connman/connman_1.33.bbappend which sets PV to 1.12+git which annoys me every time | 16:07 |
| JaMa | it's only slightly better than duplicating whole recipe in our layer with _git.bb name or using require recipes-connectivity/connman/connman_1.33.bb inside of connman_git.bb which sets 1.12+git | 16:08 |
| JaMa | but I realize that in this case the connman_1.33.bb isn't even fetching from git.. :0 | 16:09 |
| tlwoerner | wouldn't that be a bug (i.e. the recipe name is 1.33 but inside it sets PV to 1.12)? | 16:09 |
| JaMa | recipe name matches with what the recipe fetches, but our bbappend changes it to fetch something else from our forked connman | 16:09 |
| tlwoerner | obviously connman is the exception, not the rule, but in any case i think changing the name to _git.bb makes more sense since with future version bumps only the SRCREV inside the recipe needs changing, not the SRCREV plus recipe name | 16:12 |
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| u1106_ | RP: kergoth: Right. For a recipe with a working do_fetch I get a lot of information in log.do_fetch | 16:25 |
| u1106_ | E.g the "returning" line mentioned by kergoth | 16:25 |
| u1106_ | > DEBUG: For url http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/mirror/sources/git2_github.com.file.file.git.tar.gz returning file:///usr/local/share/src_mirror/git2_github.com.file.file.git.tar.gz | 16:25 |
| u1106_ | But for the failing one I get really no info where it tries to search https://pastebin.com/X6D83t15 | 16:25 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Yocto build succeeds, but warning about missing RDEPENDS <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50257995/yocto-build-succeeds-but-warning-about-missing-rdepends> | 16:28 |
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| u1106_ | I have also straced both task. For the suceeding one it does a couple of lstat() calls on my local src mirror and then 2 stat() calls on /usr/local/share/src_mirror/git2_github.com.file.file.git.tar.gz and the the symlink to downloads | 16:30 |
| RP | u1106_: that looks very like the recipe in question has a "floating" SRCREV, it therefore has to look at the repo to see what the current revision is | 16:33 |
| u1106_ | in the failing case it does only the lstat() calls on the source mirror, but never tries to stat() /usr/local/share/src_mirror/git2_github.com.IntelRealSense.librealsense.git.tar.gz , which I guess should should be the file it needs. Nor on anything else | 16:33 |
| RP | u1106_: when it can't do that, it fails | 16:33 |
| u1106_ | RP: that could be. I guess this package has never been built offline before here | 16:34 |
| RP | u1106_: we try and educate people not to have floating revisions but in the connected world we live in, its hard for people to understand why :/ | 16:34 |
| RP | u1106_: it could also be a "name" it has to resolve and that has to be done against the canonical upstream since it can change | 16:35 |
| moto-tim1 | lmbench is failing to build because it can't find rpc/rpc.h any ideas what changed in the last 24 hours that would break that? | 16:35 |
| RP | moto-tim1: the glibc changes from khem? | 16:35 |
| u1106_ | so I guess I do a bbappend and force it to known good version? | 16:35 |
| moto-tim1 | RP: that was my first guess | 16:35 |
| RP | moto-tim1: we dropped large chunks of the rpc stack from glibc | 16:35 |
| RP | (in keeping with what upstream are doing) | 16:36 |
| RP | u1106_: you can probably even do it from a config, but ye | 16:36 |
| RP | yes | 16:36 |
| moto-tim1 | RP: ok. well, lmbench is probably in need of an update then :) | 16:36 |
| RP | moto-tim1: a depends on one of the new recipes may be enough (or may not) | 16:37 |
| moto-tim1 | RP: right. just got that from the commit log :) | 16:40 |
| * moto-tim1 thanks khem for breadcrumbs | 16:41 | |
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| tlwoerner | rburton: it seems to be a convention that when switching a recipe from a tarball to git that one updates the PV to include git? e.g. PV = "8.40-1+git${SRCPV}" | 16:48 |
| tlwoerner | or is that more often the convention when the sha is between releases? | 16:48 |
| rburton | convention is a strong word :) | 16:48 |
| rburton | if the sha is the tag then i prefer just eg PV=8.40 | 16:48 |
| tlwoerner | i.e. the default | 16:48 |
| rburton | the fact that it comes via a git clone is a detail that doesn't matter | 16:48 |
| ausjke | intel is backing out from iot, wind-river,... so many things in embedded(which is not a surprise), will that eventually impact yocto somehow | 16:49 |
| rburton | ausjke: if you know what the future holds for wind river then i think you know more than wind river does... | 16:49 |
| tlwoerner | ausjke: the fact is things will change, the question is whether those changes will be good or bad | 16:50 |
| tlwoerner | ausjke: but even if things might be bad initially, good things often have a way of righting themselves :-) | 16:50 |
| ausjke | hope for the best, i guess | 16:50 |
| * ausjke is trying to hard to figure out intel's success in embedded field for the last 2 decades...sad | 16:51 | |
| tlwoerner | ausjke: in the beginning, there weren't a lot of people using OE, so it was good having someone with money driving it | 16:52 |
| tlwoerner | i'm hoping (and somewhat optimistic) that the project has reached and passed the tipping point where there is enough involvement that it can continue without that strong backing | 16:53 |
| Crofton | tlwoerner, it reached the tipping point before Intel showed up :) | 16:59 |
| u1106_ | RP: when specifying a SRCREV I end up with: ERROR: librealsense2-2.10.0-r0 do_fetch: Fetcher failure: Conflicting revisions (bc56b2dcfcf844e39ae2a9c953eaeb35b0706ae4 from SRCREV and v2.10.0 from the url) found, please specify one valid value | 17:00 |
| u1106_ | The URI is git://github.com/IntelRealSense/librealsense.git;tag=v${PV} | 17:00 |
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| kergoth | considering we started OE in 2002, I think that's a safe statement to make, yes :) | 17:00 |
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| tlwoerner | Crofton: but they pay many of the gurus who really drive the project today, if those gurus go out and get jobs that have nothing to do with OE, it might be hard for the community to find those sorts of contributors | 17:00 |
| tlwoerner | for a little while, anyway :-) | 17:01 |
| u1106_ | can a tag not working in offline build??? I do have the tag on my mirror, but that should be irrelevant. From strace I know that it does not even access the mirror | 17:01 |
| kergoth | I doubt most of the oe experts are going to drop oe work unless there's no other choice, as deep expertise in anything is valuable | 17:01 |
| fray | for an SCM, you can use a tag, but you need a local (on your disk) mirror for that repository.. | 17:01 |
| fray | it's a known limitation | 17:01 |
| kergoth | i know i wouldn't, at least for the day job, unless i had to | 17:01 |
| fray | kergoth, finding an employer has it's ups and downs, even for 'experts'.. it's amazing how many people want me to move to work for them.. (And these are only tangentally related to OE) | 17:02 |
| fray | in the end everyone is replacable.. the catch is -how- long and -how- expensive | 17:03 |
| kergoth | that's true, i do shovel a lot of recruiter mails into a label in gmail on a fairly regular basis | 17:03 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: 'many' is a bit of a stretch. 'some' | 17:03 |
| kergoth | but still, i expect most tend to stay where their years of expertise have led them, unless they're particularly bored | 17:03 |
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| Crofton | kergoth, ++ | 17:03 |
| kergoth | course there's that old quote saying if you're the expert in your team, you should find a new team, so you don't stagnate.. | 17:04 |
| kergoth | but *shrug* :) | 17:04 |
| fray | I find that a bit of a BS statement myself.. | 17:04 |
| RP | u1106_: you cannot use a tag, no | 17:04 |
| kergoth | agreed | 17:04 |
| Crofton | lol true :) | 17:04 |
| fray | just because you are an expert doesn't mean you stagnate.. but it's up to YOU to figure out where to keep looking | 17:04 |
| RP | u1106_: it has to be "resolved" to a commit and you need the upstream repo for that | 17:04 |
| kergoth | and you can gain deeper and wider knowledge even just mentoring and teaching once your'e in a ssenior role | 17:05 |
| fray | RP/u1106_ which is why a local copy of the upstream repo can 'solve' the issue.. but may not really be what you want | 17:05 |
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| kergoth | plus can branch off into other internal projects and lead other teams to expand | 17:05 |
| fray | my personal goal is to work myself out of the job I'm currently doing.. | 17:05 |
| fray | that doesn't stop me from being an 'expert' in what I'm currently doing.. but it does continue to make me useful.. | 17:05 |
| zeddii | my personal goal is to retire ;) | 17:06 |
| Crofton | Tell your bosses people got to eat | 17:06 |
| tlwoerner | fray: the chimney thing? | 17:06 |
| fray | (note, I don't really consider myself an expert in a lot of things others might -- but someone who is smart enough to figure out what is needed when it's needed..) | 17:06 |
| fray | tlwoerner :) | 17:06 |
| kergoth | I need to start doing some side work, cause i'm definitely not learning as much as i used to | 17:06 |
| kergoth | getting rusty in some areas | 17:06 |
| fray | (for those w/o the chimney reference: http://kernel.crashing.org/fray/chimney/) | 17:06 |
| fray | what I spent part of my last two weekends on.. | 17:06 |
| fray | so I can not only 'build' software, but I can remove brick.. | 17:07 |
| fray | see I DO do hardware! | 17:07 |
| tlwoerner | kergoth: switching OE from python to rust? (i.e. getting rusty...) | 17:07 |
| kergoth | ha | 17:07 |
| fray | (lol and the 0333 picture, the wall is straight -- welcome to picture stitching -- makes it look fish-eye) | 17:07 |
| zeddii | fray. what's the terrible upstream latency on that server. | 17:07 |
| zeddii | tsk. tsk. | 17:08 |
| zeddii | 3rd world country or something. | 17:08 |
| fray | sorry, my DSL only has a 2-5MB/s upload.. :P | 17:08 |
| fray | the pictures are 'kinda big' | 17:08 |
| tlwoerner | zeddii: says the guy from the country with the worst internet of all developed countries... | 17:08 |
| zeddii | shhhh. | 17:08 |
| kergoth | i don't want to retire, i'd rather just gradually reduce the # of hours per work of work, do a ssemi-retirement thing | 17:08 |
| fray | occasionally they add additional string across the border.... | 17:09 |
| fray | kergoth, my goal (which I won't meet) is to retire in my early 50's.. then in 203x, come back and fix the UNIX time problem for 4x my normal rates.. ;) | 17:09 |
| zeddii | fray. stop all the gambling and drugs. you'll retire faster. | 17:10 |
| fray | lol, I thought gambling (stock market) was how you retired faster | 17:10 |
| * tlwoerner wants to be a lumberjack | 17:11 | |
| tlwoerner | i'm a lumberjack and i'm okay, i sleep all night and i work all day.. | 17:11 |
| fray | and ya, my 'drug' (caffine and alcohol) habit can get expensive.. don't drink much -- but I like expensive Scotch.. :| | 17:11 |
| kergoth | ha, haven't heard the lumberjack song in ages | 17:12 |
| fray | tlwoerner I've given up on lumberjack -- but may have to restart.. I can't get anyone to call me back about the trees on my property.. | 17:12 |
| u1106_ | RP: fray: Sorry, don't understand why relsoving a tag would need network connection. I can do it locally in my git2/... directory | 17:12 |
| u1106_ | $ git rev-parse refs/tags/v2.10 | 17:12 |
| u1106_ | bc56b2dcfcf844e39ae2a9c953eaeb35b0706ae4 | 17:12 |
| fray | damnit I'll PAY you to take them down safely.. but NO... you wouldn't want ot call me back | 17:12 |
| zeddii | tlwoerner. funny. I have a friend that is actually a lumberjack. that dude has some serious heavy equipment! | 17:12 |
| tlwoerner | netflix canada just added a bunch of monty python | 17:12 |
| zeddii | just stick with trailer park boys ;) :D | 17:13 |
| fray | u1106_ bitbake fetcher -always- goes out and resolves tags from a remote location.. tags can 'change', so it needs to make sure the upstream has not changed | 17:13 |
| fray | if you create a local mirror of the upstream, it will still go out to the mirror (which happens to be on your disk) ... but then you are responsible for updating your mirror async of the build system | 17:13 |
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| fray | changing from a tag to a commit ID, means that it's not non-changing -- and if the commit is on the local system there is no reason to go look at the upstream | 17:14 |
| u1106_ | you are right, they *could* change. Although I would call that very bad practice | 17:14 |
| tlwoerner | https://plus.google.com/+TrevorWoerner/posts/2Kb9nDizNue | 17:14 |
| fray | u1106_ tags change all the time, for better or worse.. | 17:14 |
| tlwoerner | zeddii: have you tried any of their drinks? | 17:15 |
| fray | when I have restrictions for internet access, I use a local mirror of the remote git repositories -- and tell bitbake to use my mirror.. | 17:15 |
| u1106_ | ok, I see the point and I will find a workaround. Thanks for your help everybody | 17:15 |
| fray | workaround is 'easy', but it does mean you have to manage it | 17:15 |
| fray | (linux-yocto is one that I do this with..) | 17:16 |
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| fray | I create a layer that has a git directory and local mirrors of the contents..) | 17:16 |
| zeddii | tlwoerner. not yet, but that's my retirement plan on the east coast! :D | 17:16 |
| fray | PREMIRRORS_prepend = " \ | 17:16 |
| fray | git://git.yoctoproject.org/linux-yocto-4.12.git git://${LAYERDIR}/git/linux-yocto-4.12.git;protocol=file \n \ | 17:16 |
| fray | git://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-kernel-cache git://${LAYERDIR}/git/yocto-kernel-cache.git;protocol=file \n \ | 17:16 |
| fray | " | 17:16 |
| tlwoerner | zeddii: http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/liquormen-s-dirty-ol-cad-whisky-trailer-park-boys/480442 is surprisingly good! | 17:17 |
| fray | tlwoerner I had no idea anyone would 'train a novice' in this.. | 17:17 |
| fray | I'm just used to 'grab the chain saw.. don't be an idiot' | 17:17 |
| zeddii | looks good! | 17:18 |
| fray | Joe MacDonald is the one who finally found me a Scotch I liked.. I still don't like Bourbon or 'Tennesse Wiskey' | 17:18 |
| tlwoerner | fray: nah, that's old skool, turns out there's a whole bunch of interesting, new, techniques | 17:18 |
| fray | problem with the one jjm found me was it's $150 a bottle.. :P | 17:18 |
| fray | tlwoerner my issue isn't the cutting down.. it's all of the work of taking care of it once it's down.. | 17:19 |
| u1106_ | so the point is that the mirror needs to contain a true git repo. Not such tar tarball that I once copied from downloads? (Even if that tarball contains a git repo). Or what exactly makes the fetcher happy to *not* trying the network? | 17:19 |
| fray | (but the one tree near my house is hollow inside, and I'd be more likely to hit the house without appropriate machinery.. which is why I need a professional -- if they're around, there there are other trees I'd like them to remove.. | 17:19 |
| fray | u1106_ yes | 17:19 |
| fray | just close the original repository with git clone .... --bare --mirror | 17:19 |
| kergoth | u1106_: set SRCREV to a commit id, don't usse ;tag=, and it won't need to contact the remote | 17:19 |
| fray | but like I said, you are on your own for keeping it in sync with the upstream though | 17:20 |
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| fray | but what RP/kergoth said.. move to commit id's and you don't have this issue any longer | 17:20 |
| fray | (I have things I need to track tags and branches on.. thus the mirroring strategy) | 17:20 |
| tlwoerner | fray: just like with tree falling, the branches are a pain ;-) | 17:21 |
| fray | exactly | 17:22 |
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| tlwoerner | fray: the course was basically a two-day, hands-on expansion of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FRKU4RmeD0 | 17:23 |
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| fray | one thing (for tree falling) I don't have but should buy are the kevlar chaps.. I'm always worried the saw will skip and I'll severe a leg.. ;P | 17:24 |
| tlwoerner | yep, i've seen that happen, and i've got myself a pair | 17:24 |
| fray | I've got my MontaVista Hard Hat Linux - Hard Hat (yes it's actually a real hardhat w/ a log on it)... face shield, gloves, etc... | 17:24 |
| u1106_ | kergoth: fray: so I ended up with setting the SRC_URI in a bbappend, to get rid of the tag set by the upstream recipe. Ugly maintenance issue, but do_fetch is happy now | 17:25 |
| fray | yes.. that works.. in a few cases, I've had to write some anonymous python to rewrite the existing SRC_URI... but it's all doable | 17:26 |
| u1106_ | Ok, thanks everbody | 17:26 |
| fray | (if you know others will be doing bbappens on the SRC_URI -- just replacing it with your own value can cause problems.. thus the anon python chunk to do it 'inline').. | 17:26 |
| fray | I'd consider that an 'advanced' usecase though | 17:26 |
| kergoth | yeah that's what i was going to suggest, d.setVar('SRC_URI', d.getVar('SRC_URI', expand=False).replace(';tag=foo')) or whatever in anonymous python | 17:27 |
| fray | kergoth, exactly.. annoying but owrks | 17:27 |
| fray | (actually going back and checking, I wasn't able to do it in an anon sectionf or some reason -- in this case -- but had to do it via a handler in RecipePreFinalise.. :P something to do with processing order if I remember right... | 17:28 |
| kergoth | huh, wonder whyt hat is. woudln't expect PV/SRCPV to process before anonfuncs run | 17:29 |
| fray | thats what it was! | 17:30 |
| u1106_ | so is the replace('tag'...) any safer the just setting a complete new SRC_URI. I mean if the upstream recipe / tag / sha1 changes I need to make a manual update anyway, don't I? | 17:30 |
| fray | because it used a tag.. the PV/SRCPV was processed BEFORE the anon python.. so it was still contacting the remote.. :P | 17:31 |
| fray | so I had to move it to a prefinalize handler.. ;P | 17:31 |
| kergoth | ah, interesting | 17:31 |
| fray | I seem to also recall it had something to do with the hash values changing after the anon python as well.. (due to the PV/SRCPV) | 17:31 |
| kergoth | i kind of wish we had the ability to run arbitrary little blocks of code as pre/post expansion hooks on particular variables. sort of doable by using inline python that returns the empty string, but.. | 17:32 |
| u1106_ | could I make a "selftest" into my bbappend so that the build fails if the checksum of the upstream recipe changes or if the PV changes? Because then I should never miss my manual maintenance in the bbappend | 17:35 |
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| u1106_ | well actually for the changed PV I don't need to test, Whenever it changes my append will no longer be appended and do_fetch will fail again if they still use the tag in the SRC_URI | 17:37 |
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| kergoth | you can do whatever you want in anonymous python. so yeah, you could easily extract the tag from the uri and if it changes error out indicating you need to adjust SRCREV to match | 17:53 |
| kergoth | i've actually done that before | 17:53 |
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| kergoth | http://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/?p=2995 | 17:58 |
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| OutBackDingo | whats with the yocvto rpi 3 builds latly | 18:23 |
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| khem | moto-timo: you might want to look into https://github.com/kraj/meta-openembedded/commits/kraj/master if you are trying latest glibc rework | 18:53 |
| khem | https://github.com/kraj/meta-openembedded/commit/25cba67d6f8338df06d43d94c3882892b8c9ef65 | 18:53 |
| khem | is what you are looking for | 18:54 |
| moto-timo | khem: RP was right that lmbench needs DEPENDS on rpcsvc-proto. does that only apply for glibc (not libc-musl)?? | 18:55 |
| moto-timo | khem: so it should be DEPENDS_append_glibc = " rpcsvc-proto" ? | 18:56 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Can't connect to free wifi network with iwconfig in Linux embedded [closed] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50173011/cant-connect-to-free-wifi-network-with-iwconfig-in-linux-embedded> | 18:58 |
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| moto-timo | khem: nevermind, I just looked at your commit. thank you | 19:00 |
| rburton | khem: btw the mdadm gcc8 fix breaks with gcc<8 | 19:00 |
| khem | moto-timo: I planned to submit a pull to oe-devel after these changes were merged which I sent just now | 19:00 |
| khem | rburton: I can guess | 19:01 |
| khem | that warning is sort of new in gcc8 | 19:01 |
| moto-timo | khem: thank you. I really appreciate the hard work. | 19:02 |
| khem | yw | 19:02 |
| khem | moto-timo: now you can see glibc becoming more like musl | 19:02 |
| khem | get rid of cruft even if it is painful... some competition is always good I guess | 19:03 |
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| khem | once gcc8 lands I plan to review and drop more patches from gcc/glibc which we are carrying out of tree | 19:05 |
| moto-timo | \o/ | 19:06 |
| khem | and drop crypt once the patch on discussions on ml ends and it lands in upstream glibc | 19:06 |
| khem | rburton: I think we probably can use pragmas | 19:06 |
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| rburton | fun also got a race in mesa | 19:18 |
| khem | rburton: runtime race ? | 19:22 |
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| rburton | yeah | 19:36 |
| khem | rburton: we should enable llvmpipe backend for x86 I have been using it for sometime | 19:36 |
| rburton | yeah i've turned it on here | 19:37 |
| rburton | wanted to see how much of a difference it made to qemux86-64 actually | 19:37 |
| khem | https://github.com/kraj/openembedded-core/commit/bd5b222a07e66809c7f113cdab9311d363626962 | 19:37 |
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| jynik | rburton: I see you're the recipe maintainer for cve-check-tool. Was going to email a patch to the oecore list for cve-check.bbclass. Are you the maintainer for that as well? | 19:49 |
| rburton | jynik: i guess. fwiw i consider it broken beyond help | 19:50 |
| jynik | rburton: Oh! Why's that? | 19:50 |
| rburton | because the entire concept of actually trusting the mitre database is doomed | 19:50 |
| rburton | feel free to mail the list though | 19:51 |
| rburton | ideally with a patch ;) | 19:51 |
| jynik | I see. Yeah, I'm trying to put together some guidelines for folks to better utilize some Yocto/OE features and was going to include a recommendation that they use cve-check. | 19:51 |
| jynik | So would you say that presenting that with the caveat that it should be only used to supplement one's monitoring of advisories, and not be the sole source of information, is reasonable? | 19:52 |
| rburton | yes thats fine | 19:53 |
| rburton | i have A Plan for the future that doesn't involve cve-check | 19:53 |
| armpit | "A" plan | 19:53 |
| jynik | Fantastic... will keep an eye out and update my paper accordingly. :) | 19:54 |
| RP | jynik: its better than nothing but in suing it, we learnt what we really should be doing... | 19:56 |
| RP | er, using :) | 19:56 |
| rburton | jynik: specifically the database has sufficient gaps and mismatches that you can't rely on it, but you can use it to double-check your own expectations | 19:57 |
| armpit | RP, let me know when you want me to start taking on stable/sumo-next | 19:59 |
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| RP | armpit: go for it! | 19:59 |
| RP | armpit: just bare in mind its not released yet | 19:59 |
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| tlwoerner | rburton: interesting... sometimes a github.com/<project>/archive is a developer-released tarball (which kinda sucks) | 20:00 |
| armpit | RP, yep. is the AB setup to do sumo builds ie autofill in parts? | 20:00 |
| tlwoerner | rburton: the tarball links from /releases/ point to /archive/ URIs: https://github.com/cisco/libsrtp/releases | 20:01 |
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| RP | armpit: not sure | 20:08 |
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| * armpit good time for me to learn ; ) | 20:09 | |
| RP | armpit: basically, no, that is missing | 20:11 |
| RP | armpit: adding autofill to the new buildbot codebase might be a better use of time | 20:12 |
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| khem | rburton: sent a v2 along with some more fixes | 20:25 |
| armpit | khem, a v8 has more power | 20:31 |
| khem | armpit: but more money for repairing | 20:32 |
| RP | armpit: some good v6s around now... | 20:37 |
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| khem | RP: yeah I think v6 is right mix of money/power | 20:40 |
| armpit | not if you need to run from the police | 20:43 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: yes, those are autogenerated tarballs-from-tags | 20:47 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: when it says "Source Code", that's github giving you a git-archive | 20:47 |
| rburton | khem: was the only changed patch mdadm? | 20:48 |
| tlwoerner | rburton: so how does one differentiate between developer release tarballs on github (i.e. the "okay" ones) and the auto-generated github tarballs (i.e. the ones that should be fixed)? | 20:50 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: anything with /archive/ is autogenerated | 20:50 |
| tlwoerner | rburton: even though it comes from /releases/ ? e.g. https://github.com/cisco/libsrtp/releases and https://github.com/cisco/openh264/releases | 20:51 |
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| rburton | the open264 page, release 1.7.0 has a lot of *maintainer provided* tarballs (the libopenh264-1.7.0.* files) and then the github-generated /archive/ links (Source code) | 20:52 |
| rburton | the maintainer provided ones are good | 20:52 |
| tlwoerner | rburton: okay, excellent. thanks for the clarification :-) | 20:53 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: https://github.com/rossburton/meta-ross/blob/master/classes/insanitier.bbclass#L93 :) | 20:54 |
| rburton | should get around to putting that in core... | 20:54 |
| tlwoerner | rburton: yes :-) if i'm not mistaken, devtool will complain, but not bitbake itself | 20:55 |
| rburton | right | 21:04 |
| rburton | at least devtool does | 21:04 |
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| rburton | and as my own builds have that class in, oe-core itself is clean | 21:04 |
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| jynik | rburton: My apologies if I inadvertantly spammed you a patch twice. Forgot to click the link to activate my list subscription. | 21:46 |
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| rburton | jynik: you did, no worries | 22:12 |
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| rburton | afternoon Jefro | 22:13 |
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| tlwoerner | can the git fetcher check out a tag? | 22:27 |
| tlwoerner | this is odd... if i clone https://github.com/cisco/openh264.git manually and checkout a180c9d4d6f1a4830ca9eed9d159d54996bd63cb it works, that's tag v1.7.0 | 22:28 |
| tlwoerner | but if i ask bitbake to clone and checkout that sha, it can't find it | 22:30 |
| neverpanic | See the tag parameter in https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual.html#git-fetcher | 22:30 |
| neverpanic | It is common to just set branch=master and SRCREV to the sha1 of the tag, though | 22:31 |
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| kergoth | tlwoerner: i'd suggest comparing the tag hash to the commit hash the tag points to, in the case where the tag is annotated | 22:34 |
| tlwoerner | neverpanic: ah, thanks | 22:34 |
| kergoth | i.e. git show —pretty=fuller sometag | 22:34 |
| kergoth | but yes, definitely avoid ;tag= | 22:34 |
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| tlwoerner | the sha of the tag doesn't appear from master, if i'm on master, do a "git log", and search for the sha, it isn't found | 22:35 |
| neverpanic | maybe the tag wasn't made on master? | 22:35 |
| neverpanic | That would explain why the fetch fails for you with branch=master | 22:36 |
| neverpanic | Try with nobranch=1; if that works, the branch is the problem | 22:36 |
| tlwoerner | nobranch=1 worked | 22:36 |
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| tlwoerner | the tag doesn't appear on any branch | 22:37 |
| tlwoerner | $ git branch --contains a180c9d4d6f1a4830ca9eed9d159d54996bd63cb | 22:37 |
| tlwoerner | * (HEAD detached at a180c9d4) | 22:38 |
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| tlwoerner | check it out: https://github.com/cisco/openh264.git | 22:38 |
| tlwoerner | https://github.com/cisco/openh264/releases | 22:38 |
| neverpanic | GitHub's web interfaces says the tag is on the openh264v1.7 branch | 22:38 |
| tlwoerner | neverpanic: if the tag is on a branch, github will tell you that | 22:38 |
| tlwoerner | oh well, thankfully nobranch=1 works :-) | 22:39 |
| neverpanic | https://github.com/cisco/openh264/commit/a180c9d4d6f1a4830ca9eed9d159d54996bd63cb has the branch annotation set to openh264v1.7 | 22:39 |
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| tlwoerner | neverpanic: weird, now that i've checked out that branch, then returned to master, then tried the --contains command again, it now gives me the right answer ... :-S | 22:42 |
| tlwoerner | oh well, thanks :-D | 22:43 |
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