Monday, 2018-05-28

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yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: yocto, how to build ffmpeg dev packages <>08:25
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ernstpis it possible to just compile two different kernels on yocto 2.4?09:33
ernstpI get linux-blah was skipped: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel set to linux-imx, not linux-blah09:34
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sam125Potentially dumb question: Is yocto the right choice if I want to build an image for an embedded system which uses an existing distro image as its base? For example, if I want to use Fedora 27 as my "base image" and then use yocto to install/configure packages/drivers/system config (in a reproducible way) on top? I don't want to have to build the Linux kernel myself, I'd be happy to just use the Fedora minimal ARM and then make my modif09:48
sam125Having a hard time searching for info about this, I guess because I don't really know terms I should be searching for. :)09:49
abelloniI don't think any tool exists to do want you want09:50
mckoansam125: someone tried combining Yocto + Debian
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mckoansam125: but I definitely wouldn't suggest it09:52
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sam125Right, so most embedded devices would run their own custom distro? Why is that better than using an existing distro?09:56
sam125I mean, in my simplistic view it's nicer if I just Fedora as then if a new kernel ships I can just take the latest version of Fedora and not worry, rather than having my custom distro possibly break.09:56
kanavinsam125: because you are not at the mercy of the distro vendor, and can customize things completely09:56
kanavinsam125: but you can certainly run fedora on your device if that's what you prefer. it just might be very hard to make it do what you want :)09:57
sam125ahh I see. sorry, I'm still fairly ignorant about all of this stuff. I suppose it would depend on how complex/resource constrained your target is as well09:58
kanavinsam125: also, you might spend a massive amount of time just getting fedora to boot on your hardware, depending on how the vendor supports it. typically they provide a nice off the shelf yocto BSP layer on the other hand :)10:01
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kanavinsam125: you are probably aware that Red Hat's bread and butter is the data center, and Fedora is essentially a testing platform for RHEL10:01
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neverpanicsam125: Why would you not just extend your Fedora installation with a few added packages using the tooling provided by Fedora, then, though?10:03
neverpanicWhat benefits do you expect Yocto to give you in such a setup?10:03
LetoThe2ndneverpanic: to make "fedora great again!" </SCNR>10:03
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sam125ah yes, that makes sense. i suppose i'm lucky in that my target can boot generic images so i thought "why not just use the distro that we'll run our dev laptops on?"10:06
sam125neverpanic: i wanted something that, from a fedora image, could automate the installation of custom packages/drivers/configuration. i thought that was part of the point of yocto but i'm starting to see that maybe it's not :)10:06
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LetoThe2ndsam125: not only mabye not, it absolutely is not. ;-) and one common reason for doing a special embedded distro is for example, that is rather hard to beat desktop/dev environments into read-only operation10:07
kanavinor working without systemd10:10
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kanavinor a million other things10:10
LetoThe2ndso as usual, it depends(TM)10:11
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neverpanicsam125: I think you'd be better off looking for a solution that installs custom packages/drivers/config on Fedora.10:13
neverpanicSomething similar to Debian's debootstrap + chroot + package manager invocations, maybe?10:13
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sam125ahh that all makes sense. thanks everybody, very helpful! :)10:19
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ernstpyeah, debootstrap/multistrap is probably the closest thing there...11:47
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open-nandramckoan: I fixed isue with fstab12:05
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mckoanopen-nandra: hey12:07
mckoanopen-nandra: did you customized the .wks?12:08
open-nandramckoan: nope12:08
open-nandramckoan: sec looking for change12:08
open-nandramckoan: added this to mahcine.conf: # Do not update fstab file when using wic images12:10
open-nandraWIC_CREATE_EXTRA_ARGS ?= "--no-fstab-update"12:10
open-nandramckoan: and it works fine12:10
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flying_sausageshey guys, I'm having issues with my little dev board and I'm wondering if anyone else has seen a similar issue12:20
flying_sausagesI've got a USB wifi chip connected, and it won't start at boot. it takes two ifups to take it up for some odd reason, as the first one will fail12:20
flying_sausagesI'm using busybox for a lot of the binaries, could this be an isse? that implementation is missing so many options it's making my head hurt a bit12:21
mckoanopen-nandra: thx I'm going to test it12:22
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open-nandramckoan: ok12:25
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mckoanopen-nandra: perfect! thx12:52
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open-nandramckoan: np12:59
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sveinseIt seems to be rocko is lacking proper ${AUTOREV} support on hg repos. At least it seems it doesn't, since it crashes with "bb.data_smart.ExpansionError: Failure expanding variable SRCPV, expression was ${@bb.fetch2.get_srcrev(d)} which triggered exception AttributeError: 'FetchData' object has no attribute 'moddir'", while specifying SRCREV with a specific rev works fine.13:22
sveinseNow, this is hurting us hard right now, so which is less work: To implement our own pre-processing workaround, or to fix the hg implementation in fetch2?13:23
varjagsveinse: a workaround i use is "rev=tip" in source uri13:24
sveinsevarjag: Ah, yes. That made it continue, but it does not set ${SRCPV} accordingly. How do you deal with that?13:33
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varjagi don't use srcpv13:34
sveinsevarjag: ok, so you don't label the built packages with the source revision?13:35
varjagi'm at the early stage of converting a legacy project13:36
sveinsevarjag: ok, thanks13:36
varjagto yocto13:36
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igorhi guys13:46
igorI'm trying to build an image but i'm getting the error: "error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/include/python2.7: cpio: mkdir failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device" on do_rootfs task13:46
igorsomeone have ever seen this error before?13:48
igori'm using fedora 27 and branch sumo13:48
sveinseThe ExpansionError exception above is masking another exception, AttributeError. Is there a way to configure bitbake to print the traceback for the masked exception?13:58
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igorsveinse, you can edit bitbake's code and put prints where you want or debug the way you want14:07
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sveinseI think I've found the error in bitbake/lib/bb/fetch2/hg.py14:47
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yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: test can yocto image <>15:26
sveinseWhich just uncoveres another colorful bug. ${AUTOREV} picks the latest commit in the commit-log, but unlike git, this commit can belong to another branch, so it can and will pick the latest commit regardless of branch :(15:28
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otavio[m]Hello ... anyone familiar with bitbake massage related to multilib support?18:08
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markaam I the only one seeing an installed-vs-shipped issue on the lastest builds using master for glibc-locale?18:53
markaI would take a stab at fixing it but have a feeling this one is better left to the experts18:54
marka  /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/EUC-TW.gz18:54
marka  /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/IBM868.gz18:54
marka  /usr/share/i18n/locales/de_IT18:54
marka  /usr/share/i18n/locales/csb_PL18:54
marka  /usr/share/i18n/locales/brx_IN18:54
marka  /usr/share/i18n/locales/es_HN18:54
marka  /usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-5.so18:55
marka  /usr/lib/gconv/GBBIG5.so18:55
marka  /usr/lib/gconv/BIG5.so18:55
markaglibc-locale: 841 installed and not shipped files. [installed-vs-shipped]18:55
markaeasy enough to work around with INSANE_SKIP_${PN} = "installed-vs-shipped"18:57
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markadetermined why I would be the only one seeing this, incorrectly appended to DISTRO_FEATURES caused the issue20:26
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