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| clsulliv | RP: I think your emails to the list are getting bounced | 00:25 |
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| clsulliv | you show up as openembedded-core-bounces@lists.openembedded.org | 00:25 |
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| eduardas_m | hello, I was wondering: what is the usual solution for getting battery level in a GUI on an embedded system? I am currently using upower and its d-bus interface, but perhaps there is a better solution? | 08:19 |
| rburton | that sounds fine to me | 08:23 |
| rburton | usual is a funny word in embedded | 08:23 |
| rburton | if you know that you'll only have a single battery type etc etc then your UI can just read it directly | 08:24 |
| eduardas_m | rburton: my problem with upower currently is that it does not seem to respect the CriticalPowerAction=PowerOff setting in UPower.conf for some reason, i.e. system does not power down after having reached the charge threshold I set | 08:26 |
| eduardas_m | rburton: also, the only alternative middleware to upower I have found so far is the Mer Project (Sailfish OS) abstraction on top of sysfs and libudev the developers called statefs | 08:30 |
| eduardas_m | which is basically undocumented | 08:30 |
| rburton | i'd either debug the upower interaction to see why its not powering off, or just hit the sysfs directly from my UI | 08:30 |
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| eduardas_m | rburton: yes, direct interaction does come to mind... however, I sometimes wish there was some kind of hardware reference design + distribution that fully implements a handheld battery-powered touch-enabled device with a display... | 08:39 |
| eduardas_m | because I am often confused what "best practices" mean for such a case in the embedded Linux space and what components/solutions should be used | 08:39 |
| rburton | agreed, many years ago we had this (and poky/sato is the remnants, imagine that running on a sharp zaurus with full PIM suite and hardware integration) | 08:40 |
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| Saur | RP, kanavin_home, fray: Thanks for solving the mystery of the broken rpm yesterday. (Btw, yesterday was our national holiday here in Sweden.) | 08:59 |
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| RP | Saur: was an interesting puzzle... | 09:03 |
| RP | rburton: I merged -next since we finally got the issues narrowed down. Have gcc8 in there for testing along with Bruce's kernel patches. Just some questions about the arm tunings :/ | 09:05 |
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| rburton | RP: cool. will rebase mut and sort it out, it's looking like a warzone right now | 09:38 |
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| RP | rburton: right, I'll try and focus on gcc 8. Looks like we have mpc8315e-rdb issues but its looking not too bad | 09:40 |
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| interruptguy_ | Hello | 10:51 |
| interruptguy_ | how can I have a recipe task hash depending on a file content hash? | 10:52 |
| RP | interruptguy_: put it in SRC_URI? | 10:53 |
| interruptguy_ | it is there | 10:53 |
| interruptguy_ | if I use bitbake-dumpsig .../recipe.sigdata.. do_install | 10:54 |
| interruptguy_ | I get this "This task depends on the checksums of files: []" | 10:54 |
| RP | interruptguy_: have a look at do_fetch | 10:55 |
| interruptguy_ | ok | 10:55 |
| RP | do_install depends on do_fetch | 10:55 |
| RP | (indirectly) | 10:55 |
| interruptguy_ | you mean log? | 10:56 |
| interruptguy_ | ok | 10:56 |
| RP | I mean run bitbake-dumpsig on the do_fetch sigdata instead of do_install | 10:56 |
| interruptguy_ | ok | 10:58 |
| interruptguy_ | let me check | 10:58 |
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| interruptguy_ | doesn't seems so | 11:00 |
| interruptguy_ | "Hash for dependent task.. do_compile" | 11:00 |
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| interruptguy_ | but also here the file checksum is missing | 11:01 |
| RP | interruptguy_: what command did you run exactly? | 11:01 |
| interruptguy_ | bitbake-dumpsig tmp/stamps/cortexa9hf-neon-.../{recipe_name}/5.4.1-r12.0.do_fetch.sigdata.xxxxxx | 11:03 |
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| interruptguy_ | wait I might made a mistake | 11:04 |
| interruptguy_ | jsut a sec | 11:05 |
| dark-h | all: yocto package management has a version restriction (for shared libraries) that kills backward compatibility. This seems counter intuitive. Any insights and workaround? | 11:06 |
| interruptguy_ | RP, ok I can see the file signature there | 11:07 |
| dark-h | bluelightning: hi, can you help with getting around version restriction in the IPKs? | 11:11 |
| interruptguy_ | RP, I can see that do_fetch.sigdata doesn't have a comment like "Task dependent....". I do see that do_unpack.sigdata contains a line "This task depends on do_fetch" | 11:14 |
| RP | interruptguy_: that sounds right | 11:15 |
| interruptguy_ | However changing the configuration file (then one that the contents I want to be evaluated) doesn't trigger any re-checksum. do_fetch reports the same hash for the file | 11:15 |
| interruptguy_ | RP, ok. so where can the problem be? | 11:15 |
| rburton | dark-h: how does it kill backwards compatibility? | 11:17 |
| rburton | if a binary links to libfoo 1.2 then it depends on libfoo >= 1.2 | 11:18 |
| interruptguy_ | RP, i did force an install signature invalidation "bitbake recipe -C install", but nothing happend | 11:18 |
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| rburton | success \o/ | 11:19 |
| interruptguy_ | RP, uuu...I just realize that i'm using devtool to get the source files localy..and I think that's the reason | 11:20 |
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| RP | rburton: that makes a nice change! :) | 11:23 |
| RP | rburton: so if we uprev the bsps and fix the mingw thing, we're nearly there with gcc8 | 11:23 |
| rburton | woo | 11:23 |
| RP | I am wondering what to do about JaMa's tune concerns though :/ | 11:23 |
| dark-h | rburton: the auto-generated deps restrict it to '>=' to compile time version of e.g. a shared library | 11:29 |
| rburton | yes | 11:29 |
| rburton | as does every other linux distribution | 11:30 |
| dark-h | rburton: in standard linux / libtool philosophy, that is not always the case | 11:30 |
| rburton | oh right you mean how eg debian lets libraries say 'i may be 1.2.3 but my abi is 1.2.0 so use that in the depends' | 11:31 |
| dark-h | rburton: exaclty | 11:32 |
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| rburton | dark-h: patches welcome :) the shlib mojo is in package.bbclass, 'just' needs a way of overriding the version | 11:34 |
| dark-h | rburton: here's a use case, I built an executable against a shared library 1.2.3, on my target I have 1.2.0 of the same library. I then try to upgrade the executable on target and it fails | 11:34 |
| rburton | sure, if you can make the assertion that 1.2.x is ABI compatible then you'd like to clamp the dependency to >1.2.0 | 11:35 |
| rburton | a lot of our design is inspired by debian so no doubt how debian handles it would slip in nicely | 11:35 |
| dark-h | rburton: thanks for the background. I will seee if I can help. I suspect the problem is more subtle for shared libraries due the to libtool style of versioning | 11:38 |
| rburton | its basically manual work | 11:38 |
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| dark-h | rburton: at the moment, package.bbclass only looks at the recipe version rather than library version which may or may not be the same | 11:39 |
| rburton | debian solves it like this: https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/cairo/blob/debian/master/debian/rules | 11:39 |
| rburton | last three lines say that 1.14.0 is sufficient for abi compatibility | 11:40 |
| rburton | and that overrides the version field in depends | 11:40 |
| rburton | libtool version etc is mostly irrelevant, you just care about package version | 11:40 |
| dark-h | rburton: i see - will try it out and create a patch | 11:41 |
| dark-h | rburton: many thanks | 11:41 |
| rburton | RP: https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/mingw-w64/ci/3ce3e27f044935f19e93e80c43ca695262d484e1/ | 11:44 |
| rburton | there's quite a few gcc8 fixes, i wonder if they'll be releasing soon | 11:44 |
| rburton | RP: patching now, will re-fire the qa-extras builder shortly | 11:46 |
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| rburton | oh there's also a 5.0.4 mingw to upgrade to | 11:59 |
| rburton | of course some brave fool needs to make some automated qa for meta-mingw | 11:59 |
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| JaMa | RP: I don't want to block gcc8 just because of those tune concerns, but still feels wrong to change tunes, just because the special case which we have in gcc-runtime | 12:02 |
| JaMa | and I agree with your concern that having to use _remove in oe-core also isn't the right way of resolving this | 12:02 |
| JaMa | rburton: thanks for finishing those qemu bits and dropping the last change from you :) | 12:04 |
| rburton | JaMa: :) | 12:05 |
| rburton | JaMa: one recipe away from dropping libsdl1 from oe-core ;) | 12:05 |
| rburton | (and its one that build with just a s/SDL/SDL2/ in configure.ac) | 12:05 |
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| syd | Hi! is this the right place to ask about bitbake use-related questions? :) | 12:39 |
| LetoThe2nd | syd: its certainly not a very wrong place to start at :) | 12:41 |
| syd | haha | 12:42 |
| syd | well, i use bitbake to compile 2 images for an embedded system - regular and recovery | 12:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | sounds like a common usecase :) | 12:43 |
| syd | i added support for selinux by adding the meta-selinux metadata and adding "selinux" for distro features | 12:43 |
| rburton | RP: fixed mingw locally, fired https://autobuilder.yocto.io/builders/nightly-qa-extras/builds/1063 | 12:43 |
| syd | but i dont use selinux for my recovery image, and want to disable selinux for it | 12:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | syd: sooooo your question is, actually? | 12:44 |
| syd | i figured i cannot override distro features for one image (recovery) - (this is correct?) | 12:45 |
| syd | so i tried to "downgrade" selinux to image-based feature - i.e. IMAGE_FEATURE | 12:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | syd: thats correct. the reasoning is that a recipe (.bb, which your image is) cannot set things that are globally visible (DISTRO_FEATURES, for example) | 12:45 |
| syd | but this is not trasferred on from my image recipe to all the dependent recipes | 12:45 |
| rburton | syd: can you not have it enabled in your distro but just turn it off in the recovery bootloader? | 12:46 |
| rburton | (and not install the policy etc) | 12:46 |
| syd | so i guess the question is how can i get IMAGE_FEATURES of my recovery.bb image recipe to all the other dependet recipes? | 12:46 |
| syd | nope | 12:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | syd: basically it sounds very much like you want two distros | 12:47 |
| syd | the biggest issue is busybox | 12:47 |
| rburton | syd: two distros then | 12:47 |
| syd | which compiles ones for both images, and requires all the libraries of selinux | 12:47 |
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| syd | hm | 12:47 |
| syd | ok | 12:47 |
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| rburton | well options are 1) fix stuff so you can have selinux configured but disabled in your recovery or 2) two distros | 12:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | who can share a big common chunk that they both include as a base conf file, and eacj just adds some minor tweaks | 12:48 |
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| syd | is it even possible for 2 images under same distro to compile twice the same recipe with 2 different configurations? | 12:48 |
| RP | rburton: cool :) | 12:49 |
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| LetoThe2nd | syd: nope | 12:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | syd: an image is a recipe, and cannot affect what happens in another recipe | 12:51 |
| syd | thanks | 12:51 |
| syd | letothe2nd,rburton: thanks, you guys helped a lot | 12:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | syd: have fun | 12:52 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Adding OpenCV to Yocto SDK for Host QtCreator <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50741802/adding-opencv-to-yocto-sdk-for-host-qtcreator> | 13:11 |
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| mrk377 | Using openembedded/webservers, what are recommendations in using either apache, cherokee, hiawatha, monkey, nginx, nostromo, or sthttpd? I was wanting to use meteor and is there a recipe for meteor? | 13:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | mrk377: for the first part of the question, it entirely depends on your usecase. for the secondary part, ask https://layers.openembedded.org/ | 13:13 |
| jof | nrossi: Have you ever come across a problem where a non-working boot.bin is generated for some reason? | 13:14 |
| mrk377 | First question: I need to server just a few configuration web pages, and interact with PHP only. | 13:14 |
| mrk377 | I need to serve (oops) | 13:15 |
| jof | nrossi: I was just preparing an SD-card to boot from, put the appropriate files on the first (FAT16) partition, but it doesn't boot. However, if I copy a boot.bin from another build that was previously working, then it works fine..? | 13:15 |
| mrk377 | It does not require a large footprint with 1000 of users. I prefer one process/thread. | 13:16 |
| jof | nrossi: And when I say "another build", I mean a different target. But that target has the same processor. | 13:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | mrc3: it still just depends. if you are familiar with apache and can make it work easily and quickly, its a totally valid choice, we cannot judge your boackground and the whole of the usecase in discussion | 13:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | mrk377: ^^^^^^ | 13:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | mrk377: and, the second answer is part of the first one. look at the layer index to see what server packages already exists. anything not in the layerindex (and to be honest, anything not either in poky or meta-openembedded) should be ruled out unless you have very specific needs. | 13:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | mrk377: unless you either want to do the packaging and/or maintenance yourself | 13:20 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: I would suggest to start with lighttpd as it is readily available in oe-core | 13:21 |
| kanavin | mrk377: ^^^^ | 13:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: no objections from my side :-) | 13:22 |
| mrk377 | Thanks letothe2nd. | 13:22 |
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| nrossi | jof: ps7_init, that is board specific and is required to make a functional spl/boot.bin | 13:42 |
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| jof | nrossi: That's what I thought | 13:43 |
| nrossi | jof: you can usually tell if its missing by the size of the boot.bin, if one is noticeably smaller, its missing that ps7_init code | 13:44 |
| * Crofton just spent yesterday morning buried in ps7 land | 13:47 | |
| jof | nrossi: They approx. same size. I may have messed up my ps7_init files the last time I updated. | 13:54 |
| jof | nrossi: But thanks! Now I know I'm in the right track, i.e. checking my ps7_init files. | 13:54 |
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| armpit | RP or rburton, do you need the AB this evening ? | 13:58 |
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| rburton | armpit: i don't as i'll be in meetings all evening | 14:00 |
| armpit | k | 14:01 |
| luneff | hey guys! could someone suggest a tablet that does 4g and gps and is compatible with yocto at the same time? | 14:01 |
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| RP | armpit: only if we have new gcc8 patches to test, so probably not | 14:03 |
| armpit | k | 14:04 |
| rburton | RP: my mingw patches built with master-next | 14:06 |
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| rburton | RP: pushed to master | 14:07 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: raspberry pi 3 less than 1 second <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50743424/raspberry-pi-3-less-than-1-second> || can't capture browser log using python, selenium and phantomjs <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50743117/cant-capture-browser-log-using-python-selenium-and-phantomjs> || Yocto/Bitbake Path Variable for Append File Directory <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50743109/yocto-bitbake-path-variable-for-append-file-directory> | 14:11 |
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| jof | nrossi: How much smaller, btw? | 14:13 |
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| jof | nrossi: N.m. My non-working one is actually ever so slightly larger (304 bytes) than the one that works. | 14:15 |
| nrossi | jof: depends, i haven't looked at zynq stuff in a while. I remember being about 1/2 the size if its missing the ps7_init code | 14:15 |
| nrossi | jof: so like 100K with, 50K without | 14:16 |
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| jof | nrossi: Ok, thanks :) | 14:22 |
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| boucman_work | hey all | 14:32 |
| boucman_work | what is the correct way to have a recipe be dependant on the exact machine, not just the architecture ? (the opposite of allarch.bbclass) ? thx | 14:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | boucman_work: have COMPATIBLE_MACHINE set, AFIAK | 14:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.5/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-COMPATIBLE_MACHINE | 14:33 |
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| boucman_work | aah right, thx | 14:35 |
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| tlwoerner | moto-timo: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Bug_Triage | 14:39 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Custom recipe for mgetty in yocto project <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50743641/custom-recipe-for-mgetty-in-yocto-project> | 14:41 |
| moto-timo | https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.5/bsp-guide/bsp-guide.html | 14:42 |
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| JaMa | boucman_work: PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}" | 14:46 |
| JaMa | boucman_work: COMPATIBLE_MACHINE is just to restrict for which MACHINEs the recipe can be built (but doesn't set the package arch | 14:47 |
| boucman_work | i'll try that, thx | 14:47 |
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| boucman_work | anybody knows about this error ? | 14:51 |
| boucman_work | ERROR: core-image-minimal-packaged-1.0-r0 do_prepare_recipe_sysroot: The file /usr/include/aliases.h is installed by both glibc-initial and glibc, aborting | 14:51 |
| boucman_work | is that just a case of "rebuild everything" ? or is there something else going on... | 14:51 |
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| boucman_work | sorry, computer problems :( | 14:59 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Issue when integrating different bsp-layers on a single bblayers.conf <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50744231/issue-when-integrating-different-bsp-layers-on-a-single-bblayers-conf> | 15:11 |
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| khem | boucman_work: which release ? | 17:12 |
| khem | boucman_work: only one of them should provide it | 17:13 |
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| khem | and it should be glibc recipe which should be the one so adding rm -rf ${D}${includeddir}/alias.h in do_install of glibc-initial recipe might be in order | 17:14 |
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| rschaefe | Hi All. I'm trying to build debug libraries of only qtwebengine. I have come across DEBUG_BUILD variable, which I think enables debug builds for all packages. Is there a way to specify which packages are built as debug | 18:22 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to raspberry pi 3 less than 1 second boot? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50743424/how-to-raspberry-pi-3-less-than-1-second-boot> | 19:12 |
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| khem | rschaefe: usually debug info is always built along, so you can add that to your image via IMAGE_INSTALL are you also looking to use lower optimization level so you can get better debug view ? if not then something like IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " <recipe>-dbg" might be enough | 21:00 |
| khem | also note that its going to pull in debug info for dependent packages as well. Since it will otherwise not be able to give you full view | 21:01 |
| khem | but if you just want it for this one package and are ok with all other constraints you can instruction it to not strip debug info into seprate package set INHIBIT_PACKAGE_DEBUG_SPLIT = "1" and INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP = "1" | 21:03 |
| khem | and that will make existing package contain this info for this recipe alone | 21:03 |
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| rschaefe | khem: are the debug versions included in the sdk, so if I get a core dump from a target, and I can load the debug symbols with only the sdk? Or do I need to explicitly add these to the sdk | 23:20 |
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