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_mac13_ | Hi, I've need to compile kernel using different GCC version then for user-space application, what is the best approach to achieve that? I've been thinking about custom bbclass for kernel recipe | 08:25 |
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mckoan | good morning | 08:50 |
LetoThe2nd | mckoan: as usual, agreed on the "morning" part | 08:51 |
mckoan | LetoThe2nd: LOL, hi | 08:51 |
mckoan | LetoThe2nd: your beer was an excellent opticalexperiment ;-) thanks | 08:51 |
LetoThe2nd | mckoan: you're welcome :) | 08:52 |
yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Bitbake: "The metadata is not deterministic and this needs to be fixed" <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48762459/bitbake-the-metadata-is-not-deterministic-and-this-needs-to-be-fixed> | 09:03 |
jofr | What is the "proper" way to have one recipe run-time-on-target dependable on another? i.e. If I IMAGE_INSTALL recipe A, recipe B will also be installed? It doesn't have any build-dependencies, the artifacts from B just have to be present on the image. | 09:17 |
LetoThe2nd | jofr: RDEPENDS_${PN} | 09:17 |
jofr | So recipe A will have RDEPENDS_${PN} = "recipe_b"? | 09:18 |
LetoThe2nd | on package_b, but basically yes. | 09:18 |
jofr | Err. yes. ;) | 09:19 |
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kuzulis | Hi guys. Is it makes sence in FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend or FILESEXTRAPATHS_append in custom linux*.bbappend file? e.g. from this doc: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.5/kernel-dev/kernel-dev.html {2.3.3. Changing the Configuration} I see that there are provided FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend variable.. but my linux*.bbappend already has the FILESEXTRAPATHS_append variable. | 09:41 |
kuzulis | Currently, my custom linux*.bbappend (with FILESEXTRAPATHS_append) has only the SRC_URI with a set of a patches.. | 09:43 |
kuzulis | But not I want to add there and the my custom Linux Kernel config file.. | 09:43 |
kuzulis | s/But not/But now | 09:43 |
kuzulis | What I need then to do with my previous FILESEXTRAPATHS_append ? | 09:44 |
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varjag | how do you people go with repositories for your local versions of yocto? | 09:52 |
varjag | do you have to use that repo thing | 09:52 |
neverpanic | You don't have to use it. We're using plain submodules, for example. | 09:55 |
neverpanic | Each of the possible solutions has their upsides and downsides. | 09:56 |
LetoThe2nd | another option is kas. but yeah, you *have* to do nothing, but find out what fits your need. | 09:57 |
LetoThe2nd | (you could also use a toaster instance) | 09:57 |
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yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Where are bitbake python functions documented <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24769944/where-are-bitbake-python-functions-documented> | 10:03 |
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kuzulis | Guys, what I need to use: FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend or FILESEXTRAPATHS_append? if I want to use both my kernel patches and my defconfig? | 10:04 |
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sagner | It only matters if you have the same file name in multiple layers... | 10:20 |
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sagner | With prepend you can make sure that your extra path will get examined earlier... | 10:20 |
kuzulis | sagner: Hmm.. I have added my defconfig to *.bbappend file: | 10:23 |
kuzulis | FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend := "${THISDIR}/${PN}:" | 10:23 |
kuzulis | SRC_URI += "\ | 10:23 |
kuzulis | file://defconfig \ | 10:23 |
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kuzulis | but what I do bitbake my-image, I see that a default config file in 'workdir' is a not my defconfig file! | 10:23 |
kuzulis | s/but what/but when | 10:24 |
kuzulis | my defconfig file is ignores | 10:24 |
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sagner | kuzulis: use bitbake -e <kernel-recipe> to figure out which paths are exactly checked. They are checked in order, make sure that yours is early enough | 10:25 |
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kuzulis | sagner: bitbake -e linux-toradex prints out a lot of info.. I don't know what I need to take from.. | 10:27 |
sagner | kuzulis: I usually redirect it in a file and then examine that | 10:28 |
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sagner | kuzulis: you want to check the FILESEXTRAPATHS variable | 10:29 |
kuzulis | sagner: I see that contains following FILESEXTRAPATHS=<path to /meta-toradex-nxp recipe>:<path to my recipe>:__default: | 10:32 |
sagner | kuzulis: the problem is probably that toradex uses FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend too, then its a question which layer gets parsed first | 10:32 |
sagner | kuzulis: try reordering layer include in bblayers.conf | 10:33 |
sagner | e.g. put yours before/after meta-toradex* | 10:33 |
kuzulis | sagner: Currently my layer is declared after all other layers.. | 10:34 |
kuzulis | sagner: So, what I need to expect in FILESEXTRAPATHS ? | 10:34 |
kuzulis | sagner: Shoul my layer be on a first place there? | 10:35 |
kuzulis | sagner: I mean my path to my kernel recipe on a first place? | 10:35 |
kuzulis | But, it is strange, why my patch in FILESEXTRAPATHS is after the '/meta-toradex-nxp' path? Because my layer is declared after the <meta-toradex-nxp> layer.. So, as I understans, my 'prepend' should be called in end of a script.. So, my path should be in a first place..> | 10:40 |
eduardas_m | khem: hello, it seems your recipe for libxcrypt fails to fetch on poky master: http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-core/libxcrypt/libxcrypt_4.1.1.bb?h=master | 10:40 |
eduardas_m | khem: Github repository does not have a master branch | 10:40 |
eduardas_m | khem: the commit is on develop branch, though | 10:41 |
kuzulis | Why this does not work? | 10:44 |
kuzulis | If you have a final Linux kernel .config file you want to use, copy it to a directory named files, which must be in your layer's recipes-kernel/linux directory, and name the file "defconfig". Then, add the following lines to your linux-yocto .bbappend file in your layer: | 10:44 |
kuzulis | FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend := "${THISDIR}/files:" | 10:44 |
kuzulis | SRC_URI += "file://defconfig" | 10:44 |
kuzulis | 10:44 | |
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rburton | morning | 11:47 |
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kuzulis | rburton: Hi. Could you please help me with using my 'defconfig' ? Because it ignores.. | 11:53 |
sagner | kuzulis: I think the order bbappend's get applied are determined by the layer priority | 11:55 |
kuzulis | sagner: Do I need to increase a my layer priority? A higher value means a highest priority in yocto? | 11:56 |
sagner | kuzulis: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-BBFILE_PRIORITY | 12:10 |
kuzulis | ok, many thanks | 12:12 |
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kuzulis | sagner: A layer's priority does not work too.. E.g. the 'meta-toradex-nxp' layer has priority 90... So, I have added priority 91 to my layer.. And I see that the defconfig file takes from the meta-toradex-nxp layer. | 12:27 |
eduardas_m | rburton: hello, any idea when official working release of Thud is expected? I believe the wiki says it was supposed to be ready this month | 12:37 |
rburton | eduardas_m: shortly. you can start testing with the thud branch now if you want | 12:37 |
eduardas_m | rburton: I actually am at this very moment | 12:37 |
sagner | kuzulis: and you use a bbappend file? | 12:38 |
eduardas_m | rburton: there is a fetch failure with libxcrypt | 12:38 |
eduardas_m | rburton: recipe defines the branch to be master, but there is no such branch in github repo | 12:39 |
rburton | eduardas_m: patch on the list, s/master/develop/ | 12:39 |
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rburton | RP: need the xcrypt patch in thud (in my branch) | 12:48 |
RP | rburton: agreed | 12:50 |
kuzulis | sagner: Wow.. Seems it work whet I put my defconfig file inside of new 'apalis-imx6' directory of my recipe | 12:50 |
kuzulis | Guys, many thanks | 12:50 |
kuzulis | s/whet/when | 12:51 |
sagner | kuzulis: try bitbake-layers show-appends linux-toradex | 12:52 |
kuzulis | sagner: https://pastebin.com/cZG7vTQn | 12:55 |
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rburton | eduardas_m: re release, the weekly status has an update. '· 2.6 M4 is due to be built as soon as we have the oeqa reporting patches merged. Oher changes which put the release at risk will be deferred to master.' | 13:08 |
sagner | kuzulis: oh yeah that makes sense, because the original defconfig is probably in a machine specific subfolder too | 13:14 |
eduardas_m | rburton: this might sound stupid, but I do not really understand what purpose do M versions serve... are these the equivalents of kernel.org release candidates? also, is there a document that explains the Yocto project release process? | 13:14 |
rburton | milestone releases | 13:14 |
rburton | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_Project_Release_Process | 13:14 |
eduardas_m | rburton: thank you | 13:15 |
eduardas_m | rburton: so as far as I understand milestone releases give no real guarantees on what standard targets build with them? | 13:19 |
rburton | well we don't release known broken milestones | 13:19 |
rburton | they're entirely for development purposes though | 13:20 |
rburton | mainly for scheduling and ensuring the quality of master isn't totally broken | 13:20 |
T_UNIX | is anybody else noticing broken behavior with `install`? i.e. single step `install -dt foo source/*` does *not* wor, while two step`install -d ...`, `install -t foo source/*` works. | 13:27 |
T_UNIX | I assume it's related to selinux -.-' | 13:33 |
T_UNIX | am loving how it 'randomly' interferes and crushes recipes that used to work O.o | 13:34 |
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eduardas_m | is it planned that all systemd configuration customizations should be handled as systemd-conf recipe bbappends that are machine-specific starting with Thud? | 14:08 |
eduardas_m | question related to commit: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=28c2f0dfe3ae06d87772b2a88fcace5a03e09143 | 14:08 |
eduardas_m | or am I supposed to just override the recipe entirely? | 14:09 |
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noway96 | Can anyone help me solve this error https://pastebin.com/5eBw37SW | 14:35 |
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prabhakarlad | Hi, is it possible to run a sudo command as part of recipe ? could anyone point me for doing so | 15:01 |
rburton | no | 15:01 |
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rburton | well, yes, if you configure sudo to not ask for auth | 15:01 |
rburton | better question is why do you want to run a sudo task | 15:01 |
Crofton | sudo rm -rf / | 15:02 |
rburton | hahaha | 15:02 |
prabhakarlad | rburton: i want to create a img file for SD card for which I wanted to run losetup commands | 15:03 |
kergoth | you don't need sudo to set up a disk image. use wic | 15:03 |
kuzulis | Guys.. I tried to do: bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel ... but it faild with do_menuconfig: No valid terminal found, unable to open devshell. | 15:04 |
kuzulis | What does it means? | 15:04 |
kuzulis | What I need todo to fix it? | 15:04 |
kuzulis | Ahh.. I need in: sudo apt-get install screen | 15:06 |
prabhakarlad | kergoth: thank you this what I was looking for :) | 15:06 |
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kuzulis | Guys, does 'bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel' puck-up my custom kernel config? I mean that defconfig, which uses in building of a kernel? | 15:09 |
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sagner | kuzulis: I don't think that menuconfig works with the Toradex bsp layers | 15:13 |
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CoLa|work | is it possible to use PACKAGECONFIG to add an RDEPENDS value only for a single package instead of the whole recipe? | 15:13 |
kuzulis | sagner: Why? I run menuconfig, and I see it UI. | 15:14 |
kergoth | CoLa|work: it does that already, it adds it to RDEPENDS_${PN} | 15:14 |
kergoth | so it's not the wohle recipe, it's ju st the main package | 15:14 |
kergoth | but no, you'd have to use inline python to do it | 15:14 |
sagner | kuzulis: I am not sure, I just remember that somebody had issues with it once.. Maybe this helps? https://www.toradex.com/community/questions/585/how-to-use-menuconfig-on-console-trdx-image.html | 15:15 |
CoLa|work | kergoth: thanks, will have to go with inline python then since only ${PN}-fooplugin shall gain an RDEPENDS and not ${PN} | 15:16 |
kergoth | should be pretty straightforward using the contains() function on PACKAGECONFIG. grep around oe-core,k you'll find examples | 15:16 |
kuzulis | sagner: Hmm.. in my case it works: bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel | 15:16 |
kergoth | there are mu ltiple recipes for whom the default packageconfig handling isn't entirely sufficient on its own | 15:16 |
kuzulis | sagner: And seems, it puck-ups my kernel config.. | 15:17 |
kuzulis | s/puck-ips/pick-ips | 15:17 |
kuzulis | s/puck-ips/pick-ups | 15:17 |
kuzulis | sagner: But menuconfig's UI looks ugly | 15:18 |
kuzulis | sagner: like: https://imgur.com/a/VN3yKoG | 15:22 |
kuzulis | Does know anybody, to what directory a new kernel config will be saved? | 15:23 |
zeddii_home | after menuconfig ? it is just the kernel build’s .config | 15:23 |
zeddii_home | i.e. ${B} | 15:23 |
kuzulis | Do you mean is in working directory ? | 15:24 |
zeddii_home | nope | 15:24 |
zeddii_home | I mean ${B} | 15:24 |
zeddii_home | the build dir, is not the workingdir, they are two separate things. | 15:24 |
kuzulis | do you mean, like: /build-apalis-imx6/tmp/work/apalis_imx6-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-toradex/4.1-2.0.x-2.7.5/build | 15:25 |
kuzulis | ? | 15:25 |
zeddii_home | should be yah. but I don’t know the kenrel recipe you are using, so in theory, it could be different. | 15:25 |
kuzulis | ok, many thanks | 15:26 |
kuzulis | maybe someone know, why a menuconfig UI looks ugly: https://imgur.com/a/VN3yKoG ? | 15:26 |
kuzulis | :) | 15:26 |
zeddii_home | likely just a result of the terminal you are using. | 15:27 |
kuzulis | I use remote SSH conenction | 15:27 |
kuzulis | connection | 15:27 |
zeddii_home | could be that as well. some translation on the codes. | 15:27 |
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kuzulis | ok | 15:28 |
kuzulis | but 'mc' utility works good | 15:28 |
kuzulis | afaik, menuconfig uses ncurses too (as and 'mc') | 15:29 |
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OutBackDingo | morning/afternoon... im considering a build cluuster for arm64 but im seeing an anomoly building sayy chromiuum for raspberrypi3 ... odd to me since it X builds fine on an intel for rapspberrypi3 | 15:41 |
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rburton | arm as host is obviously fairly untested as only recently has it become feasible | 15:46 |
rburton | should work, but no doubt there are recipes which don't | 15:46 |
RP | we actually have a new arm hosting waiting to be installed in the test racks so it will become more tested but we're not there yet | 15:47 |
rburton | tbh not surprised you mention chromium at all :) | 15:48 |
LetoThe2nd | rburton: in terms of expecting it to break? ;-) | 15:48 |
rburton | hell yeah! | 15:48 |
OutBackDingo | just odd so i changed the recipe to raspberrypi3-64 to see if that faired any better | 15:50 |
LetoThe2nd | rburton: hrhrhr | 15:52 |
OutBackDingo | https://pastebin.com/s8GLGTJP of the chromium failure from xcross on arm64 | 15:53 |
OutBackDingo | any thoughts? other then dont expect it to work :P | 15:53 |
OutBackDingo | every other recipe build fine, even x and freinds | 15:56 |
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armpit | RP i had a AB failure with a traceback from the builder code. I don't see what I may have done wrong.. restarted the build | 16:14 |
RP | armpit: oe-core repo, not poky? | 16:16 |
armpit | RP poky contrib noted | 16:18 |
armpit | right branch | 16:18 |
armpit | is "mut" a keyword? I used akuster/mut | 16:18 |
armpit | or is akuster a keywork == failure ; ) | 16:19 |
RP | armpit: you told it there was a poky derived tree there and there isn't | 16:19 |
RP | armpit: ross/mut is poky derived | 16:19 |
armpit | right I see now | 16:20 |
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noway96 | opkg_prepare_url_for_install: Couldn't find anything to satisfy 'drived'. do_rootfs: unable to install packages. Any idea what's going on here? | 16:22 |
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banach-space | Hello! Is there any difference between using recipies from oe-core and meta-networking (spoiler alert: stuff from oe-core works for me, but not from meta-networking)? | 16:31 |
banach-space | AFAIK both are part of OpenEmbedded. | 16:34 |
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noway96 | why isn't my recipe getting built into a .ipk file? I'm inheriting native, does that have anything to do with it? | 16:39 |
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RP | armpit: I killed off some obsolete builds to give you more workers | 16:43 |
armpit | k | 16:44 |
armpit | thanks | 16:44 |
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Crofton|work | noway96, pretty sure native recipes do not get packaged | 16:51 |
noway96 | Crofton|work so why is that? | 16:51 |
noway96 | and how are they installed? | 16:52 |
noway96 | Crofton|work where should I specify them such that they're added to the image? | 16:52 |
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noway96 | oh nm I guess it's meant for the build host and not the target machine so the correct answer is - you can't | 17:03 |
RP | armpit: I should also note you are slowing my handling of the release by doing this :/ | 17:13 |
armpit | then my build should be killed. | 17:16 |
noway96 | I need the target Linux kernel src headers available during my recipe's compilation. How do I do that exactly? | 17:16 |
armpit | the release has priority | 17:17 |
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* armpit stops build | 17:17 | |
RP | armpit: not much point now, just worth realising it does mean my build won't finish so quickly :/ | 17:18 |
RP | armpit: but thanks, 2.6 is taking far too long. Not been able to concentrate properly on patches until today due to illness :( | 17:19 |
RP | I'm very likely to take what is in -next as 2.6 rc1 FWIW. If anyone knows of anything critical not in there, speak now... | 17:20 |
armpit | sorry to hear | 17:20 |
RP | armpit: conference 'flu' :( | 17:20 |
armpit | at least no jetlag | 17:20 |
armpit | train lag ? | 17:20 |
RP | armpit: :D | 17:20 |
Crofton | hmm, cold? I have a not so bad one | 17:20 |
RP | Crofton: yes, was a cold but just knocked me out a bit :( | 17:21 |
armpit | was it running around in shorts and tee shirt? | 17:21 |
RP | armpit: no, that probably helped ;-) | 17:22 |
* armpit was bloody cold at ELCE | 17:22 | |
RP | armpit: temperature has dropped since then | 17:22 |
armpit | the temp at home is 2x that of Edinburgh | 17:23 |
RP | fray visited the north east after ELCE and would agree the wind here is much worse :) | 17:23 |
RP | armpit: car said 3C yesterday and lots of traffic accidents on ice | 17:24 |
armpit | Guess I got out in time | 17:24 |
JPEW | Is JaMa here by chance? | 17:28 |
* armpit looks at -next | 17:30 | |
armpit | RP one thing to consider are timezone updates. if not now, would have to be in THUD before year's end | 17:34 |
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RP | armpit: I wondered about that. I've taken them and will hold you responsible for all failures :) | 17:38 |
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armpit | NP, they all ready had one pass on the AB so I have a more confidence in those changes | 17:41 |
armpit | 2018g is out but it can easily wait till later | 17:42 |
RP | armpit: I set the build away so it will have to :) | 17:43 |
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junland | Question for anyone here, has anyone talked about maintaining deb and rpm packages for the yocto project for major Linux distro's? | 18:00 |
junland | Well in particular bitbake. | 18:01 |
OutBackDingo | junland: not sure i follow that | 18:01 |
OutBackDingo | ahhh' | 18:01 |
junland | Yea. haha | 18:01 |
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noway96 | my sysroots folder does not have a filled in uapi subfolder. How do I add those contents? | 18:15 |
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noway96 | the headers should be inside /sysroots/genericx86-64/usr/include | 18:17 |
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kergoth | junland: at this time bitbake and oe-core, while separate projects, have pretty tightly bound dependencies, and compatibility breaks with more regularity than we'd like, so a system installed bitbake would only work with a limited number of oe-core release versions | 18:26 |
kergoth | junland: that's part of why it's used from its repository next to oe-core, to keep them in sync | 18:26 |
junland | kergoth: Gotcha, thought about maybe getting a rpm spec file going as maybe a for weekend side project. But I guess not since it seems do such a thing would be kinda hard with those dependencies being updated like that. Maybe at a later time? | 18:32 |
kergoth | it'd be nice to make bitbake a proper python package that can be installed from pypi or packaged for a distro, and have it work for any oe-core version, but it's really difficult, because our metadata isn't *just* declarative information. | 18:32 |
kergoth | tasks, anonymous python, etc often make assumptions about internal bitbake behavior, and there's not a lot we can do about that without a major change to the file format and bitbake both | 18:33 |
kergoth | huh, interesting. | 18:38 |
kergoth | https://gist.github.com/kergoth/a60046871dfc94a8d7db27f15e5299fd | 18:39 |
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noway96 | the file poky/meta/recipes-core/uclibc/site_config/headers contains a list of headers which is found inside sysroots/genericx86-64/usr/include. How do I add different headers to this list? | 18:56 |
noway96 | .. such that those headers end up in sysroots? | 18:57 |
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noway96 | anyone? | 19:22 |
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RP | we have a 2.6 M1 build even if it failed to send the QA email | 21:25 |
RP | halstead: really need to sort the email situation :/ | 21:25 |
halstead | RP Still failing to email. :( | 21:26 |
RP | halstead: yes: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/6/builds/164/steps/10/logs/stdio | 21:26 |
halstead | RP I can get on each machine and check them one by one. | 21:26 |
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RP | halstead: we need to sort this as part of machine bringup | 21:27 |
RP | halstead: this was where I was starting to go with that script | 21:27 |
Crofton | email is so last decade, use a forum | 21:27 |
* RP wonders what throw at Crofton | 21:28 | |
* Crofton grins | 21:28 | |
halstead | Yes. That script is the right idea. | 21:28 |
halstead | RP should I send the email again like I did last time? | 21:30 |
RP | halstead: I didn't know if you were around so I already sent it | 21:30 |
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halstead | Excellent. | 21:33 |
RP | Crofton: I could propose the OE board communicate via a private forum if you like them that much? | 21:34 |
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Crofton | I'll suggest it | 21:39 |
halstead | Congrats on the RC by the way. | 21:40 |
RP | armpit: you can have the AB now btw, rc1 built | 21:40 |
RP | halstead: better late than never? :) | 21:40 |
halstead | Certainly. I suppose the lateness hadn't registered among all the ELC excitement. | 21:42 |
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armpit | RP thanks | 21:50 |
RP | armpit: sorry for interrupting but means rc1 is done now :) | 21:51 |
RP | armpit: actually can you hold off starting anything for a few minutes please? | 21:51 |
armpit | Crofton, may I suggest morse code | 21:52 |
armpit | RP, np.. I will fire something of in a few hours | 21:53 |
* armpit Hmm, OE tinder | 21:54 | |
* armpit swipe left for YP, right for OE | 21:57 | |
RP | armpit: thanks, I've pulled the files I wanted off now (oeqa json results) | 22:04 |
armpit | k | 22:04 |
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