| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How can I boot my sama5d27 som1 ek1 board from an external QSPI flash memory that i have placed on the board <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56284274/how-can-i-boot-my-sama5d27-som1-ek1-board-from-an-external-qspi-flash-memory-tha> | 00:20 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How can I boot my sama5d27 som1 ek1 board from an external QSPI flash memory that i have placed on the board [on hold] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56284274/how-can-i-boot-my-sama5d27-som1-ek1-board-from-an-external-qspi-flash-memory-tha> | 00:50 |
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| sudobash1 | I ended up just doing the bbappend to add an /etc/init.d script. It seemed to be the correct thing to do. | 00:57 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Add same files to multiple PACKAGES <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53465061/add-same-files-to-multiple-packages> | 02:50 |
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| Ad0 | LetoThe2nd, I made swupdate work with A/B copy + partitioning scheme to my liking :) | 07:16 |
| Ad0 | also with systemd | 07:16 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Increasing HugeTLB from 256MB to 512MB with Yocto SDK2.0 <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56287930/increasing-hugetlb-from-256mb-to-512mb-with-yocto-sdk2-0> | 07:51 |
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| Dvorkin | did somebody see a good example how to install additional (secondary) cross-gcc and use it to build a couple of recipes? I have two different CPUs and need to build two archs together into the same image | 10:21 |
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| kanavin_ | Dvorkin, meta/lib/oeqa/selftest/cases/multiconfig.py | 10:45 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Add same files to multiple PACKAGES <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53465061/add-same-files-to-multiple-packages> | 11:54 |
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| Dvorkin | kanavin_, good reference, thanks. as I can see, I can build several images using this technique. Or the one image from two parts of different archs? | 12:10 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Linker cannot find boost::thread references <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56292623/linker-cannot-find-boostthread-references> | 12:24 |
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| kanavin_ | Dvorkin, if you want several images, you can simply set up two build directories using two different MACHINE targets, multiconfig is more about combining different targets within one build | 13:18 |
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| qschulz | hello everyone, I've a question related to licenses, is it the right place to ask or should I go to #oe ro any other chan? | 14:22 |
| qschulz | the question being related to the inner working of LICENSES and INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSES, nothing that needs to involve a lawyer :) | 14:24 |
| erbo | Ask here, but depending on who's online you might not get an answer. If so you can try the mailing list | 14:37 |
| qschulz | OK, I didn't know which medium to favor | 14:38 |
| qschulz | Basically, qt5.6(<=) is GPLv2 compliant but qt5.7(>=) is a combination of licenses, among which basically you have GPLv3 | QT_Commercial. | 14:39 |
| qschulz | We don't want to build qt5.7(>=). We're using meta-qt5 at an old release which has qt5.6. | 14:40 |
| qschulz | It just happened that we mistakenly updated meta-qt5 with a qt5.11 which is GPLv3 | Commercial in development environment only, so nothing to worry about | 14:40 |
| qschulz | BUT. We had INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE = "GPLv3 GPLv3+ LGPLv3 LGPLv3+" in place. | 14:41 |
| kanavin_ | qschulz, I hope you do realize that you are introducing a mountain of technical debt | 14:41 |
| kanavin_ | talk to your management about buying a commercial license | 14:41 |
| qschulz | I tried with the SPDX values as well (so INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE = "GPL-3.0 GPL-3.0+ LGPL-3.0 LGPL-3.0+" | 14:42 |
| qschulz | kanavin_: we know. We use very little of Qt (like VERY little). We discussed purchasing, way too expensive (like WAY TOO MUCH). | 14:43 |
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| qschulz | anyway. Qt5 license is this horrendous string: GFDL-1.3 & BSD & ( GPL-3.0 & The-Qt-Company-GPL-Exception-1.0 | The-Qt-Company-Commercial ) & ( GPL-2.0+ | LGPL-3.0 | The-Qt-Company-Commercial ) | 14:43 |
| qschulz | So, with my basic binary operator understanding, I'd say that also need to blacklist The-Qt-Company-Commercial. Tried it, didn't work. | 14:44 |
| qschulz | So, question. How to make sure we never have a qt >= 5.7? (And this most likely expand to why is INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE not working ?) | 14:46 |
| qschulz | expand/extends? | 14:46 |
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| JaMa | how did you accidentally upgraded to 5.11? do you change layer branches accidentally? As long as you stay on krogoth branch of meta-qt5 you will be fine at least for Qt | 15:12 |
| JaMa | qschulz: but be aware that Qt 5.6 won't get openssl-1.1 compatibility, so you need to replace openssl from oe-core with openssl10 and use that until you're ready to upgrade Qt (well maybe you use little enough to disable ssl support in qtbase and you're fine in this aspect) | 15:13 |
| JaMa | we offered to backport all changes in upstream Qt 5.6 (to prevent tainting the license) and it was rejected by upstream (I can give you ticket link if you need) | 15:14 |
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| qschulz | JaMa: i'm interested in those patches as we're currently implementing it | 15:35 |
| qschulz | JaMa: we're upgrading our layers and we updated all the layers without looking much (still WIP so didn't think too much about it) | 15:35 |
| JaMa | qschulz: are you aware that you cannot backport them from newer Qt because of license? | 15:36 |
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| qschulz | JaMa: wait, I thought you backported this to 5.6. Is it based on the 5.7+ implementation? | 15:36 |
| qschulz | well, "backported" I guess that answers it | 15:37 |
| qschulz | not interested obviously :) | 15:37 |
| JaMa | no, we offered to do that in upstream and they rejected our help (because they want people to upgrade to newer version instead) | 15:37 |
| qschulz | JaMa: which makes perfect sense | 15:37 |
| qschulz | we're not using much of qt for openssl so we're working on calling everything directly basically (i.e. without qt's wrapper, without knowing whtat qt's doing in this wrapper) . No worries on license compliance for this. | 15:40 |
| JaMa | https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2018-November/034353.html https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2018-November/034354.html https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2018-November/034358.html https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-71623 | 15:40 |
| qschulz | thanks but as you said, those patches are most likely not gplv2 compliant so can't even send them to the integrator | 15:41 |
| qschulz | (we found some patches on the internet as well but licenses make everything tricky) | 15:41 |
| qschulz | anyway, I'm more interesting into knowing why INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE is not working for qt (and other recipes?) or what I did so wrong it didn't work :) | 15:42 |
| JaMa | btw: openssl-1.1 support won't be in the next LTS Qt 5.9 as well (at least not from upstream, there are various patches which backport it, because it's no longer license issue), https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/releasing/2019-March/002601.html you need to upgrade all the way to 5.12 | 15:45 |
| JaMa | not sure why INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE didn't work, we aren't using INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE, because we need "mixed" env anyway, so we have other tools to prevent contamination with incompatible licenses | 15:46 |
| kergoth | we use incompatible license, but will use WHITELIST in certain cases, and then have a couple image sanity checks to freak out if anything ends up there that shouldn't be there. we allow a whitelisted gplv3 gdbserver in our development image for example, but not in our production image | 16:06 |
| JaMa | so the sanity checks then control only the explicitly whitelisted packages from being pulled into the image? | 16:16 |
| JaMa | I guess you have also static libs disabled to prevent someone accidentally pulling some v2 blob into production image binary? | 16:18 |
| JaMa | we also use do_packagedata[postfuncs] to check for the shlibs providers, where we need to prevent also GPLv2 libraries to be linked against from our code, with explicit whitelist for some of them | 16:20 |
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| milloni | is there way to get a list of all packages actually installed into an image, not just those in IMAGE_INSTALL everything that is installed implicitly (dependencies) too? | 17:05 |
| sudobash1 | From a running system I normally use 'opkg list'. I'm not sure how to do it with bitbake itself though. | 17:08 |
| qschulz | tmp/deploy/images/[machine]/[image]/[].rootfs.manifest ? | 17:13 |
| qschulz | tmp/deploy/images/[machine]/[image]-[machine].rootfs.manifest ? | 17:14 |
| milloni | qschulz: thank you very much | 17:15 |
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| justanotherboy | milloni: Please note the manifest doesn't include the packages that are deployed like the kernel or the bootloader | 17:23 |
| milloni | justanotherboy: you meant are *not* deployed? | 17:25 |
| justanotherboy | milloni: you would need a kernel to run you system, but it is not installed in the rootfs so it won't be listed there | 17:27 |
| justanotherboy | milloni: Check bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10733 for more information | 17:28 |
| yocti | Bug 10733: normal, Medium, Future, unassigned, NEW , image license not copied to rootfs | 17:28 |
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| khem | RP:when using opkg backend I see opkg tests fail all the time. If I manually start a http server in ipk/ folder it works | 20:56 |
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