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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: BitBake: Can we use DEPENDS with package name? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57985420/bitbake-can-we-use-depends-with-package-name> | 05:34 |
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| iceaway | LetoThe2nd: thanks again for the tips about initrd instead of initramfs yesterday. Managed to boot a kernel + initrd now :) It's quite difficult to google about initrd specifically, because it seems like initrd and initramfs is used interchangeably making me very confused. | 07:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | iceaway: :) | 07:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | iceaway: using an almost standard filesystem as initrd is just so much easier. | 07:52 |
| iceaway | Had some issues with the kernel panicing due to "unable to handle page request" before stripping down my initrd considerably. Sounds a bit like an out-of-RAM issue, but my board has 2GB of RAM and the initrd was about 60MB unpacked. | 07:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | iceaway: because *technically* it is a vastly different thing. | 07:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | maybe not exactly an out-of-ram issue, but some other limit applying. no idea, our update initrds usually fit into 16M or so. | 07:55 |
| iceaway | LetoThe2nd: Managed to get below 16MB, so hopefully I can keep it there :) Not sure if I should look into the fitimage thing or not. If I do not use the fitimage, I should be able to use the same kernel image for both the "rescue" mode and normal mode, just changing the bootargs. | 07:56 |
| iceaway | I guess if I use a fitimage, I would have to to use one "regular" image for the normal boot, and the fitimage for rescue mode booting. | 07:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | iceaway: technically thats true, but if you're talking about flash storage then thats a bad idea. the update mechanism should always be capable of exchanging the productive kernel without endangering itself of being non-functional if something goes wrong. | 07:57 |
| iceaway | LetoThe2nd: ahh yes, of course. did not consider that aspect yet. | 07:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | iceaway: :) | 07:59 |
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| palate | hello :-) | 09:48 |
| palate | tlwoerner: actually, I'm just realizing: are you teaching at those e-ale conferences? I was reading the slides and saw your username there :) | 09:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: the e-ale sessions usually are presented by a couple of folks who happen to be around and available at the main conference. and yes, tlwoerner sometimes does a session. (answering for him because he's probably not around yet, tz differences) | 09:51 |
| palate | LetoThe2nd: right... this e-ale session seems super cool! :-) | 09:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: come to ELCE in lyon, late october, and meet everybody in person :) | 09:52 |
| palate | LetoThe2nd: I've seen the dates, honestly I was tempted. But I don't really know what ELCE is about, and I thought that maybe it's overkill to take a few days off and pay for a conference that I don't know (it's usually quite expensive, right?) | 09:54 |
| palate | LetoThe2nd: but I'm also tempted, because Lyon is not so far (I'm from Switzerland :D) | 09:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: you'll certainly need a couple of bucks, yeah. early bird is over, flights, hotels... | 09:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: make $EMPLOYER pay | 09:55 |
| palate | LetoThe2nd: I would need to convince them :D | 09:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: how much of your work time are you spending on embedded linux and yocto, roughly? | 09:55 |
| palate | LetoThe2nd: none, I'm spending many hours in my free time :D | 09:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: ok, that makes it rather complicated. :P | 09:56 |
| palate | I'm thinking that yocto may be the right solution for us at work, but I need to learn more before I can argue that | 09:56 |
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| LetoThe2nd | i see | 09:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | so no embedded linux job at all so far? | 09:57 |
| palate | not for me, not really | 09:58 |
| palate | Well I'll still mention the conference | 09:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | then its probably rather hard to get company money, yes. | 09:58 |
| qschulz | palate: are you using a build system already? | 09:58 |
| palate | "where developers working on embedded Linux and industrial IoT products and deployments gather for education and collaboration," | 09:59 |
| palate | How much education is there? xD | 09:59 |
| qschulz | palate: well, a lot of talks are given in a few days, tat's the educational part I guess | 09:59 |
| palate | qschulz: but like, talking about e.g. how to secure an IoT device, add new BSPs and stuff like this? | 10:00 |
| erbo | There's also the training days | 10:00 |
| qschulz | collaboration is rarely done during the talk days (a few minutes after a talk, some meetings between talks, during lunch or after the day's over | 10:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: its co-located with the open sorce summit. bascially its roughly 15 simultaneous track to choose from, of which 3 (IIRC) are embedded linux, and probably another one or two other embedded related stuff | 10:00 |
| qschulz | palate: sure, many different topics: https://osseu19.sched.com/ | 10:00 |
| palate | open source summit? sounds good :) | 10:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: the "collaboration" usually rather happens outside the tracks, in the hallways, booths, and ... pubs around! | 10:01 |
| qschulz | all I can say is that if you've a broad spectrum of interest and knowledge, you won't know how to chose between talks :D | 10:01 |
| qschulz | palate: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe-2019/attend/convince-your-boss/ | 10:02 |
| qschulz | palate: FWIW there is a hobbyist category | 10:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: to be honest, it also can be rather overwhelming. its a great experience if you already know a couple of folks, or are involved in some project. if you just go there for the first time, theres also the chance that you are rather dazzled | 10:04 |
| palate | qschulz: awesome! | 10:04 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Using OpenCV with camera on Jetson Nano running Yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57989992/using-opencv-with-camera-on-jetson-nano-running-yocto> || What is difference between git:somthing.com and gitsm:something.com in .bb file in Yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57989761/what-is-difference-between-gitsomthing-com-and-gitsmsomething-com-in-bb-file> | 10:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | i personally remember my first ELCE as rather weird, and even the second one woudl deserve mixed reviews. but once you get the knack and know folks and your way around, its a perfect way for networking and getting updated on the latest hot s**tz in a very short time. | 10:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | (for the record, this year is my 9th in a row) | 10:07 |
| palate | :) | 10:09 |
| rburton | LetoThe2nd: jealous! | 10:09 |
| rburton | though stupid elce is basically scheduled at the same time as my son's birthday | 10:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: last year getting allowance was tricky. i returned from 3 months of paternal leave only like 5 weeks before ELCE. $BOSS was not exactly pleased. | 10:11 |
| rburton | lol | 10:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | :-) | 10:13 |
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| palate | haha so I read the session descriptions of ELCE. Now instead of having to learn about Yocto, I have Yocto, Deby, Isar, Buildroot xD | 10:32 |
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| palate | Oh, there is something I don't understand. In Yocto, I can build for qemux86, qemuarm, etc. If I want to "emulate" my pocketbeagle, can I somehow do that with qemu? | 10:36 |
| iceaway | Has anyone used the kernel-fitimage class, and care to explain a bit on how to implement that in my build? It's hard to find examples of how to use it. I'm not sure where to put the required bitbake variables to make it output a fitimage. | 10:41 |
| rburton | palate: yeah, there's patches in master now to configure qemu magically for beagle | 10:46 |
| rburton | well the beaglebone-yocto BSP has the qemu bits setup. you can copy them into whatever bsp you're using assuming they're still right | 10:47 |
| palate | rburton: I see | 10:47 |
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| palate | rburton: what is it that makes a BSP different from another? CPU arch and available devices (usb, ethernet, ...)? | 10:48 |
| palate | the question is a bit: if it works for beaglebone, does it work for pocketbeagle? | 10:48 |
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| frsc | iceaway: Actually you don't need to do much. I think it basically comes down to KERNEL_CLASSES = "kernel-fitimage", KERNEL_IMAGETYPES = "fitImage", KERNEL_DEVICETREE, UBOOT_LOADADDRESS, UBOOT_ENTRYPOINT. | 10:51 |
| frsc | iceaway: And I have them in my machine config | 10:51 |
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| iceaway | frsc: do you know if it is possible to create a .bbappend for a machine config? | 10:53 |
| rburton | .bbappends append .bb files, as the name suggests | 10:53 |
| rburton | make your own machine, and include the one you want to modify | 10:53 |
| iceaway | rburton: That was my guess as well. Thanks, will try that approach! | 10:54 |
| palate | I see that just after ELCE, there is a yocto summit of 2 days? Is that where the classes are? | 10:54 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Using OpenCV with camera on Jetson Nano with Yocto/poky <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57989992/using-opencv-with-camera-on-jetson-nano-with-yocto-poky> | 11:05 |
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| tlwoerner | palate: yes, if you're looking to save money, i'd recommend attending the summit and skipping the conference!! lol | 12:05 |
| palate | are the presentations published online? I just realized that anyway I'm moving apartment on that week, so I won't make it :( | 12:05 |
| tlwoerner | and LetoThe2nd answered perfectly for me earlier. ironically i taught the e-ale session this past Spring at SCaLE on buildroot | 12:06 |
| tlwoerner | yes, many past presentations are available online: https://elinux.org/ELC_Presentations | 12:08 |
| jofr | palate: It all goes on the YouTube'z | 12:08 |
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| tlwoerner | i prefer the elinux.org site because it organizes the talks better, and provides links to the slides | 12:08 |
| jofr | True | 12:09 |
| tlwoerner | it's a gold mine of information! | 12:09 |
| jofr | I went to a couple of ELCEs but then I decided to stop going.. I'm not extrovert enough to be "networking" with people .. and I watch all the talks online anyway.. | 12:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | tlwoerner: is it also a fair trade and ethically run gold mine? | 12:10 |
| palate | jofr: tlwoerner: awesome! | 12:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | jofr: well i don't remember you being exactly an introvert, though. | 12:11 |
| palate | jofr: it does make sense, too | 12:11 |
| palate | LetoThe2nd: xD | 12:11 |
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| palate | mouaha I found one for tonight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCVYQWFIvBs&feature=youtu.be | 12:12 |
| palate | (buildroot vs yocto) | 12:13 |
| palate | (though I'm already a big fan of yocto :) ) | 12:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: lesson #1: being a fan does not pay the bills. use the tool that fits the job best. no more, no less. :) | 12:16 |
| palate | haha, got it :) | 12:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | seriously, thats one of the core things i emphasize in every training, every presentaiton. its essential to know your toolbox so you can make good choices. | 12:19 |
| jofr | LetoThe2nd: Haha, well I'm a complicated beast. ;) I'm not introverted when I'm already a part of the conversation. But striking up a conversation with a stranger isn't exactly what I'm known for :p | 12:20 |
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| jofr | LetoThe2nd: In that sense, I guess I'm just a bit "scandinavic" I guess ;) | 12:21 |
| RP | JPEW: I found a couple of tweaks needed to the patches, they're in -next | 12:21 |
| RP | JPEW: also, rburton opened a bug to do with error handling | 12:22 |
| palate | jofr: sweden? | 12:22 |
| jofr | jofr: Icelandic, but I've lived in Denmark for the past 4 years. | 12:22 |
| palate | Iceland? Amazing! I went there for 10 days a few years ago, I looooved it | 12:23 |
| tlwoerner | what's funny about the conferences is: the Yocto Project will (almost always) have a booth. at some point, everyone involved with the project (and new people too) will drop by the booth. people will get chatting about what they're working on, then someone will inevitably say "oh, are you palate from IRC?" and you'll say "yes i am!" and then the other person will say "hi, i'm LetoThe2nd! we're all going to <such and such> pub, why don't you join | 12:24 |
| tlwoerner | us?" | 12:24 |
| palate | :) | 12:25 |
| nrossi | RP: just checking in to see if there were any issues with the toolchain testing, I know there are some minor issues with the results. Wanted to make sure though that i had not missed anything major with the AB stuff | 12:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | tlwoerner: don't you know the story between me and jofr ? | 12:25 |
| palate | "Are you the annoying new guy asking questions on #yocto?" -> I would expect that :D | 12:25 |
| jofr | palate: Well, then half the people here would be the annoying new guy .. myself included. ;) | 12:25 |
| tlwoerner | LetoThe2nd: no i don't think so, and i'm not sure who jofr is (?) | 12:26 |
| RP | nrossi: Congratulating you/us on having it mostly working was on my todo list for today! I think that one is roughly where we need it now, its great! | 12:26 |
| RP | nrossi: 1.9 million test results in that build :) | 12:26 |
| nrossi | RP: only 1.9 million? :) | 12:27 |
| RP | nrossi: obviously things remain but its basically good | 12:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | tlwoerner: when heading to prague, i told him "if you see bearded guy wearing metal clothes and cowboy boots somewhere near the yocto booth, then come say hi. its me". and when i was standing there gathering the usual troll crows for lunch, some guy steps up to me and says "Hey you told me I shall say hello. I'm jofr, and you are letothe2nd." | 12:28 |
| tlwoerner | nice! perfect ELCE story :-) | 12:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | thats how it works. | 12:30 |
| jofr | Then we went to lunch later, with people I have no recollection of.. (sorry if you're here :p ) | 12:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | jofr: one or two of them might be around, but i'm not totally sure who was with us either. | 12:30 |
| qschulz | palate: also, a good way to get into the conference is to give a talk there, then you don't pay the ticket fee :) | 12:31 |
| palate | LetoThe2nd: so cool :D | 12:32 |
| palate | qschulz: yes, but I would need to have interesting things to say :D | 12:33 |
| qschulz | palate: sometimes you're doing things that you think are trivial or unworthy of other people's attnetion and it turns out it actually is very interesting and people want that kind of talks :) | 12:34 |
| tlwoerner | the perspective of people new to the project is very important to the project! | 12:34 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to use OpenCV with camera on Jetson Nano with Yocto/poky <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57989992/how-to-use-opencv-with-camera-on-jetson-nano-with-yocto-poky> | 12:35 |
| tlwoerner | to most of us, how to do various things is "obvious", but sometimes having someone say "i wanted this, did that, but something else happened" is interesting. to us it might be obvious why you got something else :-) | 12:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | tlwoerner: "i wanted to be a rock star, so i bought a guitar and booze, but i only got drunk" | 12:37 |
| palate | xD | 12:40 |
| tlwoerner | LetoThe2nd: haha, i actually lol'ed | 12:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | tlwoerner: :) | 12:45 |
| palate | so busybox comes with udhcpd already. Meaning that I can quite easily setup a dhcp server, and thanks to the dropbear feature, now I can SSH into my pocketbeagle from my computer over usb \o/ | 12:47 |
| palate | next step is to automate all that, and then to add that to my yocto setup so the image works out of the box :) | 12:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | palate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roRQ2mNwMMQ | 12:49 |
| palate | :) | 12:50 |
| rburton | LetoThe2nd: metal clothes as in black tees with skulls and fire on, or as in medieval armour? | 13:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: the former. the latter usually just gives me headaches at the airport. | 13:10 |
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| RP | rburton: you didn't think tinfoil hat? :) | 13:18 |
| JPEW | RP: I think you might want to chdir back to the starting directory after starting the hash server also? | 13:19 |
| JPEW | RP: Also, I noticed a lot of AB failures due to do_locked_sigs? | 13:19 |
| RP | JPEW: is that call site serialised? I worked on the assumption it was in its own process so doesn't matter in reality | 13:20 |
| RP | JPEW: patch in -next for it | 13:20 |
| * alessioigor waves all | 13:20 | |
| alessioigor | Is there a way to make images of different size of the same (image) recipe? | 13:20 |
| JPEW | RP: Ah I see that patch now. | 13:21 |
| RP | JPEW: I need to clean up the commit message. Its testing atm | 13:21 |
| RP | JPEW: I am worried though as sstate reuse isn't happening when it should | 13:21 |
| RP | JPEW: I don't know why | 13:21 |
| RP | JPEW: compare and contrast https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/59/builds/1046 and https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/59/builds/1048 | 13:22 |
| RP | difference is that locked sigs task change and the bitbake hashserv tweaks | 13:22 |
| RP | so it shouldn't be rebuilding | 13:22 |
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| RP | JPEW: selftest is throwing errors with hashequiv set :/ | 13:27 |
| JPEW | RP: In the hashequiv tests, or elsewhere? | 13:28 |
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| RP | JPEW: elsewhere | 13:29 |
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| RP | JPEW: good news is no performance issue that I can spot so I think we're good on that front | 13:41 |
| RP | JPEW: on that basis I think I merge the patches, build M3 and we move on to bug fixing | 13:41 |
| ecdhe | Where is the recipe that builds python in yocto? | 13:50 |
| ecdhe | I'm looking for the recipe that provides the file /usr/bin/python3 | 13:50 |
| rburton | the recipe is python3 in oe-core | 13:54 |
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| kanavin | rburton, how useful is sysprof? | 13:59 |
| kanavin | rburton, the new version makes polkit non-optional, so I am deliberating between moving sysprof to meta-oe vs moving polkit to oe-core | 14:00 |
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| RP | JPEW: something is really wrong. Its not reusing sstate on a build I'm experimenting with on the autobuilder | 14:09 |
| ecdhe | thanks RP | 14:10 |
| ecdhe | thanks rburton | 14:10 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ecdhe: oe-pkgdata-util (or whatsitcalledexactly) lets you directly search for the package and therefore recipe that provides a given path file in your build | 14:11 |
| ecdhe | Thanks LetoThe2nd, really appreciate it! | 14:14 |
| LetoThe2nd | ecdhe: have fun! | 14:15 |
| zeddii | RP: I've been trying to do some fixing on the strace issue myself. I can see the same sort of runtime in 5.3 as well. so before I go to the list, I'm making sure I've tried a few things. | 14:29 |
| RP | zeddii: ok. We're going to need to do something for M4 but I can use the timeout workaround to get M3 built | 14:32 |
| rburton | kanavin: haven't tried it for a long time | 14:36 |
| RP | khem: meta-oe down to two failures: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/88/builds/5 | 14:41 |
| kanavin | rburton, yeah, I wonder if there are users at all | 14:48 |
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| JPEW | RP: Hmm, weird. Do you think that is because of the server? I wouldn't expect it to be since the information it is reporting hasn't changed. | 14:52 |
| ecdhe | Architecture question: I have a single board for which I'm writing two different applications, each of which may include some additional custom utilities. I thought about making a layer for each application, but then I realized there is some common configuration between them. | 14:54 |
| RP | JPEW: I did some digging, I'm wondering if its its "ripple" effect from non reproducibility :/ | 14:54 |
| RP | JPEW: -Hash for dependent task /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/qemux86/build/meta/recipes-devtools/libtool/libtool-cross_2.4.6.bb:do_populate_sysroot is 1ea317b018c3e4809c46581de8044a13a607ae87fe1ee6ea972a4e731a9ec7f8 | 14:55 |
| RP | +Hash for dependent task /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/qemux86/build/meta/recipes-devtools/libtool/libtool-cross_2.4.6.bb:do_populate_sysroot is bb5eeab5a12213c63d056b449a8d1dfef455b94ef16f03181572118936da07c5 | 14:55 |
| RP | -Hash for dependent task /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/qemux86/build/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3_3.7.4.bb:do_populate_sysroot is c07a38e24cb582a6976cbe3d6d9b96ffd91bca5e311b19b9df903eb74ec99f15 | 14:55 |
| RP | +Hash for dependent task /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/qemux86/build/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3_3.7.4.bb:do_populate_sysroot is 49fcc8535e00073cfe2a10b0cb9e281857ece956b6e17ab09f098cd8495ee608 | 14:55 |
| JPEW | RP: Quite possibly. If you can get it, the build output the signature files that is hashed to get the output hash in ${T} | 14:55 |
| RP | JPEW: but even if it wasn't reproducible, it still should have generated valid sstate :/ | 14:56 |
| RP | JPEW: I don't understand :( | 14:58 |
| JPEW | RP: Agreed. Whats that diff from? | 14:59 |
| ecdhe | So then I thought perhaps I should make a single layer, meta-myapps and expose the different collections of packages as seperate recipes... | 14:59 |
| RP | JPEW: its from the output of dumpsigs on btrfs-tools:do_prepare_sysroot in two different builds that should be the same (same sstate, same hashequiv server) | 15:01 |
| RP | JPEW: its rebuilding btrfs-tools since its saying python3 and libtool cross changed | 15:02 |
| RP | JPEW: more alarmingly, ls tmp/stamps/core2-32-poky-linux/libtool-cross/ | 15:03 |
| RP | 2.4.6-r0.do_populate_sysroot_setscene.1ea317b018c3e4809c46581de8044a13a607ae87fe1ee6ea972a4e731a9ec7f8 | 15:03 |
| RP | 2.4.6-r0.do_populate_sysroot.sigdata.bb5eeab5a12213c63d056b449a8d1dfef455b94ef16f03181572118936da07c5 | 15:03 |
| RP | JPEW: correct hash would be bb5eeab for both | 15:04 |
| RP | JPEW: that is a smoking gun of some kind | 15:04 |
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| RP | JPEW: just gets worse as I look. The build shows do_populate_sysroot (56090): log.do_populate_sysroot.56090 | 15:07 |
| RP | then later do_populate_sysroot_setscene (35314): log.do_populate_sysroot_setscene.35314 | 15:07 |
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| RP | definitely shouldn't do that | 15:07 |
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| RP | JPEW: runqueue problem though, not the server | 15:08 |
| * armpit hmm wonder who is setting patches to suspended with out tell me | 15:11 | |
| rburton | armpit: i noticed something/someone is setting oe-core patch status to master-next etc | 15:11 |
| armpit | I tend to set the ones for stable to "under review" and my name | 15:14 |
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| khem | RP: I filed this https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13536 which should fix dfu-util-native | 15:57 |
| yocti | Bug 13536: normal, Undecided, ---, richard.purdie, NEW , Add glibc-devel-static to prerequisites on OpenSUSE based host distributions | 15:57 |
| khem | IMO its a gap in prerequisites for SuSE based distros | 15:58 |
| khem | that will get us down to 1 | 15:58 |
| khem | and the last failure is kernel-selftest, kernel-selftest needs clang to be installed on build host or alternatively use meta-clang, its usually easier to install clang as prerequisite and then add clang llc to HOSTTOOLS | 16:02 |
| RP | khem: I do not want to add this, I'd much rather we fix that recipe | 16:02 |
| RP | khem: and no, we're not installing clang | 16:03 |
| RP | khem: worst case we'll have to blacklist these in poky I guess | 16:03 |
| khem | RP: problem is not recipe I hope you go tthat | 16:03 |
| RP | khem: the problem is that patch which enabled static linking? | 16:03 |
| khem | yes its not problem | 16:04 |
| khem | problem is that prerequisites that we have for redhat and debian like distros ( glibc-devel ) already install libc.a | 16:04 |
| khem | but suse does not | 16:04 |
| RP | khem: and nothing else in the system seems to need this | 16:05 |
| khem | sure, for the subset that is being built | 16:05 |
| RP | I'm open to a case for adding things but we don't just do it arbitrarily. One recipe with a dubious patch isn't a case for adding a dependency | 16:06 |
| khem | what I am saying is this is just a symptom that can happen with other packages too | 16:06 |
| khem | so either we dont require libc.a on everyhost then its fine too | 16:06 |
| RP | khem: sure. We can fail because of all kinds of missing dependencies | 16:06 |
| RP | khem: right now we don't rely on libc.a as far as I'm concerned | 16:07 |
| RP | khem: has anyone asked JaMa if that patch has specific history? | 16:07 |
| khem | yes hee mentioned that he does not use it, but it was tool that was shipped to users so statically linking it made it host independent | 16:08 |
| khem | I am actually inclimed to fix it since it was a revert of upstream patch and probably pass -static via CFLAGS/LDFLAGS but still static binary made sense | 16:09 |
| RP | khem: we now have uninative and sdk relocation so presumably those obsolete this then | 16:10 |
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| khem | with uninative it might be since the tool is installed in deploydir | 16:20 |
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| khem | RP: kernel-selftest I think can be blacklisted, although it will be a good addition for test matrix eventually | 16:24 |
| RP | khem: right, I don't really want to blacklist anything :( | 16:25 |
| khem | kernel-selftest uses bpf and you need clang for that backend | 16:26 |
| khem | either add clang to prereqs or add meta-clang to layermix are only two other options besides blacklisting, pick whatever you wish | 16:28 |
| RP | khem: right, we don't want to install clang on the workers and add that as a dependency | 16:28 |
| RP | khem: the recipe should probably disable itself it clang isn't present somehow | 16:29 |
| khem | hmm | 16:29 |
| khem | do we have some helper functions in metadata to detect host tools ? | 16:29 |
| khem | I would certainly do that | 16:29 |
| RP | khem: I'm not aware of any. Just talking to rbuton about meta-intel's need for git-lfs :/ | 16:30 |
| RP | we do have an open feature request for recipe specific host tools | 16:30 |
| RP | that in itself shouldn't be hard | 16:30 |
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| smurray | RP: yikes, as a user of meta-intel, that sounds unappealing | 16:42 |
| khem | RP: I forwarded you email, dfu-util is shipped for end-users so they can flash devices, and it need libusb1 so I guess easiest is/was to built a static binary and ship it for minimal host deps | 16:42 |
| RP | khem: right, I understand the history and why. I'm not adding extra build dependencies to the autobuilders without good reason though and this doesn't make the bar IMO | 16:44 |
| khem | probably its best to add these both recipes to BLACKLIST for poky then | 16:47 |
| khem | this makes the best for everyone I guess | 16:47 |
| RP | khem: its that or we make it a PACKAGECONFIG | 16:51 |
| RP | khem: poky can then config it off | 16:51 |
| khem | yeah packageconfig is better I guess for dfu-utils | 16:52 |
| khem | infact I would like to keep static disabled by default | 16:52 |
| khem | not sure for kernel-selftest | 16:53 |
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| khem | this recipe has been a pain and submitter has dropped off chart after sending the first patch to add it | 16:54 |
| RP | khem: I remember the discussion about it for core. I'd really like it there but not with large dependencies | 16:55 |
| RP | JPEW: I fixed the chdir thing and merged it | 16:56 |
| JPEW | RP: OK, looks good | 16:58 |
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| JPEW | RP: When I original did the hash equiv work, I used persist_data as the storage mechanism. IIRC the reason for this was that there were places where the unihash was needed in both the parent bitbake runqueue parent process and the child workers; you replaced that with the new message to set the unihash in the parent process, but maybe it's racing? | 17:00 |
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| RP | JPEW: right, I wondered. Its actually a problem I've already kind of worked on in that horrible WIP patch I had in -next | 17:03 |
| RP | JPEW: I need to get back to that and figure out how to test it | 17:03 |
| RP | JPEW: at least that is what I suspect | 17:04 |
| JPEW | RP: Is that patch still sitting around somewhere? | 17:04 |
| RP | JPEW: I've kind of misplaced it :/ | 17:05 |
| JPEW | RP: Remember any part of the title I can grep for? It might still be dangling in my git tree | 17:07 |
| RP | JPEW: I think its the one I just managed back into -next | 17:08 |
| RP | JPEW: need to go afk but I've thrown it at the autobuilder | 17:08 |
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| RP | just *mangled* was what I was trying to say | 17:09 |
| JPEW | RP: OK, sounds good | 17:09 |
| RP | the bitbake selftest may be bust as that part of the patch failed to apply | 17:10 |
| * RP shrugs | 17:10 | |
| bentech | Is this correct? PREFERRED_VERSION_systemd = “243” http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/5979/ | 17:11 |
| JPEW | bentech `PREFERRED_VERSION_pn-systemd = "243"` I think | 17:12 |
| bentech | Ah thanks | 17:13 |
| smurray | I wouldn't have thought you'd need to set it? | 17:13 |
| bentech | I need this feature https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/12429 | 17:14 |
| smurray | I gather you've copied the new recipe back to an older branch? | 17:14 |
| JPEW | bentech: Ah, that might not work either. The PV has the git SHA1 in it, which you might also need (I don't recall ATM). | 17:15 |
| smurray | I think just PREFERRED_VERSION_systemd = “243%" would work | 17:16 |
| JPEW | Ah, ya. I always forget about the wildcards | 17:17 |
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| bentech | hmm, i’m not having much luck.. There are no warnings it just hasn’t changed | 17:31 |
| bentech | i’m using bitbake -s mybuild to check | 17:31 |
| bentech | maybe i need the +X in the version | 17:33 |
| JPEW | bentech: The suggestion from smurry to use the wildcard is probably better | 17:38 |
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| JPEW | bentech: And I was wrong on needing the "pn-" in the override. Sorry. | 17:41 |
| bentech | It seems to work with it | 17:42 |
| bentech | My issue was that *cough* i hadn’t updated the poky folder | 17:43 |
| bentech | so the 243 reciepe wasn’t there. It was commited today apparently | 17:44 |
| JPEW | bentech: Ah, that would do it. | 17:45 |
| bentech | Can i use depends instead of preferred so it might give a warning? | 17:45 |
| bentech | Strange coincidence that the code i needed was commit 6 hours ago | 17:47 |
| JPEW | bentech: Not sure I follow | 17:47 |
| bentech | If i add PREFERRED_VERSION_pn-systemd = “500000” i don’t get a build warning | 17:48 |
| rburton | PREFERRED_VERSION doesn't take a pn- | 17:48 |
| JPEW | bentech: Ya, my mistake. I was confusing it with e.g. PACKAGECONFIG. Sorry :( | 17:49 |
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| smurray | bentech: if you just pulled in poky master and got the updated recipe, you shouldn't need to set PREFERRED_VERSION | 17:53 |
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| bentech | I am currently using Thud, i’ve just downloaded those files from master | 17:54 |
| bentech | It should all get sorted when i upgrade to Zeus | 17:54 |
| smurray | bentech: okay | 17:56 |
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| bentech | That was optimistic :( | 18:07 |
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| bentech | How do you require a glibc-utils for use during the build? I’m trying to use getent which is on the host system | 18:13 |
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| mischief | hi. does anyone have experience with ocaml in yocto? | 18:24 |
| rburton | beneth: needing getent is a bit unusual. $PATH is sanitised heavily, either use an absolute path (hack) or HOSTTOOLS+=getent in local.conf | 18:28 |
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| rburton | beneth: if its the new kernel then current yocto exports KBUILD_BUILD_USER and _HOST to remove host details leaking into the kernel | 18:36 |
| qschulz | I'm struggling with a second bug which is again some files that appear and shouldn't or don't appear and should in sigdata for a task. | 18:40 |
| qschulz | I'm trying to understand how is this list created so I can better debug it | 18:40 |
| qschulz | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/bitbake/lib/bb/siggen.py#n893 | 18:41 |
| qschulz | I've dug up for a bit but it leads me to the cache and then it's the big pandora box | 18:41 |
| qschulz | I'd like to learn how to debug this part as I'm very new in this area of Yocto | 18:42 |
| qschulz | so any pointer is appreciated :) | 18:42 |
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| ebolton | hey all, I have a custom distro conf with a few variables defined that are used in various tasks in multiple recipes, I'd like to invalidate/trigger the build step on all these recipes whenever the var changes...any thoughs | 18:52 |
| kergoth | checksums are done on a per-task, not per-recipe, basis. you could just add them to vardeps of do_compile or something | 18:53 |
| ebolton | vardeps...forgot about that...thanks | 18:54 |
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| JPEW | Is the archiver.bbclass code tested on the AB? | 19:08 |
| armpit | JPEW, there is a archiver selftest so I would think so | 19:26 |
| armpit | see https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/lib/oeqa/selftest/cases/archiver.py | 19:27 |
| khem | RP: are we building master-next of meta-openembedded on AB | 19:34 |
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| khem | RP: if so then I have queued a fix for dfu-utils there | 19:36 |
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| JaMa | khem: whoa, poky is now building with meta-oe on AB? nice! | 19:55 |
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| armpit | Khem we can make it build any branch we when from any repo.. ie contrib | 20:17 |
| * armpit smacks himself.. | 20:18 | |
| armpit | but its poky repo format then meta-oe | 20:18 |
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| armpit | khem, do you think the kernel-selftest should be a dynamic-layer thing for clang? | 20:19 |
| armpit | that is the other failure | 20:20 |
| armpit | khem the default it master btw | 20:20 |
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| armpit | khem, there are two a-full build currently running. do you want to kick off a meta-oe build? | 20:31 |
| armpit | later? | 20:31 |
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| mischief | hm, are things from DEPENDS supposed to appear in the $PATH in devshell? | 21:32 |
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| smurray | mischief: yes | 21:37 |
| mischief | i see, i forgot a ${D} :) | 21:44 |
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| khem | armpit: dynamic-layers might be a good idea, although its not a hard dep | 21:51 |
| khem | so infact someone can install clang on build host and use that too | 21:51 |
| armpit | or maybe remove it from world build? | 21:51 |
| khem | but its okay to mark it dynamic layers | 21:51 |
| khem | that way we remove dep on clang being on host | 21:51 |
| khem | yes we can add it BLACKLIST dynamically on AB | 21:52 |
| armpit | yep | 21:52 |
| khem | armpit: can you help adding that | 21:53 |
| armpit | I think so. let me check | 21:53 |
| khem | and can we pull master-next branch from openembeeded-core repo | 21:53 |
| armpit | yes, we can | 21:54 |
| armpit | even from any repo.. its what i do for the stable branches | 21:54 |
| khem | https://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/log/?h=master-next | 21:54 |
| khem | is what we need to test | 21:54 |
| khem | armpit:see https://github.com/kraj/jenkins-jobs/blob/master/jenkins-job.sh#L376 | 21:56 |
| armpit | k | 21:56 |
| khem | we can do something similar for kernel-selftests | 21:56 |
| armpit | the issue is I don't have write perms for the AB sources | 21:56 |
| khem | hmm | 21:56 |
| khem | who does | 21:57 |
| armpit | RP | 21:57 |
| armpit | maybe MH | 21:57 |
| armpit | let me think about.. there may be another way | 21:58 |
| khem | Or I can add poky override to recipe e.g. COMPATIBLE_HOSTS_poky = "null" | 21:58 |
| khem | ideally meta-poky should do it via a bbappend | 21:59 |
| khem | but this means the folks who use poky+meta-clang will have to do something to unblacklist it | 21:59 |
| khem | best is to blacklist it on AB since that solves the problem in a good way | 22:01 |
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| khem | armpit:can you change branch ? | 22:10 |
| armpit | yes | 22:10 |
| khem | ok then can you change one job to do master-next ? | 22:10 |
| armpit | yes | 22:11 |
| armpit | want me to use poky master with meta-oe master-next ? | 22:11 |
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| khem | armpit: OK I Pushed a potential change into master-next, actually use master-next of poky too | 22:18 |
| armpit | build started | 22:18 |
| khem | master-next of everything | 22:18 |
| khem | oh cool so you seem to be sitting on crank :) | 22:18 |
| khem | link ? | 22:19 |
| khem | ah build #6 | 22:19 |
| armpit | you can also track it via build log https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/BuildLog#meta-oe_57928_-_master_YP_CHASH_on_Typhoon-Cluster | 22:21 |
| armpit | its what swat looks at | 22:22 |
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| khem | thanks | 22:52 |
| armpit | new build | 22:58 |
| armpit | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/BuildLog#meta-oe_57928_-_master_YP_CHASH_on_Typhoon-Cluster | 22:58 |
| smurray | armpit: “Typhoon-Cluster” sounds ominous ;) | 22:58 |
| mischief | hm, how can i add a custom 'host tool'? | 23:11 |
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| smurray | mischief: add it to HOSTTOOLS, I believe | 23:20 |
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| mischief | neat, thanks | 23:22 |
| mischief | i'm cheating a bit since its too hard to build | 23:22 |
| RP | armpit, khem: back now, still need me? | 23:27 |
| RP | JPEW: still a load of odd task hash mismatch failures using hash equiv, there is some kind of regression as this was working :/ | 23:29 |
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| khem | RP: we sorted it out | 23:45 |
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| khem | RP: armpit helped me with starting meta-oe job see https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/88 | 23:46 |
| khem | RP: my user id seems to be not able to have the perms to start jobs | 23:46 |
| khem | I sent this to halfhalo | 23:47 |
| khem | ups halstead I meant | 23:47 |
| halstead | khem. Let me see what's up. | 23:48 |
| RP | halstead: I did restart the controller btw so that is done now | 23:49 |
| RP | halstead: I also added the ability to select the worker a job runs on | 23:49 |
| RP | its slightly broken at the moment as '*' isn't a valid value, will tweak tomorrow | 23:49 |
| halstead | RP very cool. | 23:49 |
| RP | halstead: long requested, everything aligned to make it work | 23:50 |
| halstead | RP, oh I watched that build until I fell asleep and forgot to follow up. Thank you for restarting. | 23:50 |
| RP | halstead: it was still going this morning for me :/ | 23:51 |
| * RP -> Zzzz | 23:52 | |
| halstead | Goodnight. | 23:56 |
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