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| Chrusel | Good morning everybody! First: Thank you guys for the new warrior release! (y) (y) (y) | 06:04 |
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| Chrusel | Probably a simple question to most of you: How to tell a package to NOT go into SDK? I appreciate also hints to the answering chapter in Reference-Manual ;D | 06:09 |
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| xtron | anyone used package_management with opkg? | 06:24 |
| khem | xtron: sure, its commonly used | 06:38 |
| khem | RP: http://jenkins.nas-admin.org/view/OE/job/oe_world_workspace-compare-signatures/873/console | 06:39 |
| khem | something changed in OE-Core ? | 06:39 |
| khem | its using master-next | 06:39 |
| xtron | khem, there is a problem with package_feed configuration, package_management is set, package_feed_uris,path,arch are set but reflecting in opkg configs | 06:47 |
| xtron | opkg list-installed is empty and it can't update from repo server | 06:48 |
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| xtron | bitbake -g <target> is not generating recipe-dependencies | 06:56 |
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| khem | xtron: it means package info is missing in image | 07:22 |
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| xtron | khem, seems like a build issue, as it works good first time with a fresh build afterward it don't have the repo configurations | 07:27 |
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| khem | are you deleting the opkg info from image ? | 07:35 |
| khem | many times people do that to reduce size | 07:35 |
| khem | hmm | 07:35 |
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| khem | are you using PACKAGE_FEED_URIS | 07:36 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Yocto: create recipe for SciKit-learn <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59065058/yocto-create-recipe-for-scikit-learn> | 07:36 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:52 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: A: Use vivante GPU on IMX6 with 4.14 kernel <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59065295/a-use-vivante-gpu-on-imx6-with-4-14-kernel> | 08:06 |
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| RP | khem: hmm, good question. Something could have broken that :/ | 08:16 |
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| mckoan | -test- | 08:26 |
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| LetoThe2nd | mckoan: -negative/failed- | 08:31 |
| mckoan | LetoThe2nd: yes it is :-( fighting against irssi config | 08:31 |
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| DvorkinDmitry | what may be wrong with CMAKE while building SDK? https://pastebin.com/QMkZ9u0M | 08:48 |
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| DvorkinDmitry | what may be wrong with CMAKE while building SDK? I have nativesdk-libarchive, but cmake can't find it in recipe-sysroot https://pastebin.com/QMkZ9u0M | 10:42 |
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| RP | rburton: can you have a glance over -next please? Think its probably good now (assuming I drop the patches+reverts) | 11:07 |
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| wertigon | *Le sigh* I hate Java :P | 11:56 |
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| wertigon | Anyone know how to solve compile issues with meta-java on gcc 8.3? | 11:56 |
| wertigon | thud branch | 11:56 |
| mcfrisk | wertigon: check history of master branch which should contain the fixes for newer gcc explicitly or as updates to newer version | 12:00 |
| wertigon | You mean like 3832a3a74dc | 12:01 |
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| wertigon | yep, that fixed it for now | 12:12 |
| wertigon | Hope no other problems arrive :) | 12:12 |
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| wertigon | Ok, after cherry-picking 3832a3a7 and 90984a33 to the thud branch things work just fine | 12:38 |
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| rburton | RP: rwill do | 13:07 |
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| rburton | RP: the meta-intel failure was disk space limit in hddimg. the easy fix is to remove hddimg from the default fstypes for x86 | 13:10 |
| rburton | just use wic images | 13:10 |
| RP | rburton: I'd love to do that since it would also fix the coreutils ptest issue on master-next | 13:11 |
| rburton | i'll post the patch and you can it on it for a few days for review | 13:11 |
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| RP | rburton: ok | 13:13 |
| rburton | RP: you're going to clean up master-next before merging right? dummyprovides fixup HACK etc | 13:19 |
| RP | rburton: yes! :) | 13:19 |
| rburton | RP: i'd be tempted to leave the final py2 removal bits in next a little longer so we can announce to the lists before pushing | 13:21 |
| rburton | ok apart from the obvious hackery, next looks fine | 13:21 |
| RP | rburton: right, probably wise :) | 13:21 |
| RP | rburton: done, still 13 patches left in -next but those can waut | 13:25 |
| RP | rburton: thanks | 13:25 |
| RP | rburton: there were some you had in a branch ready as well? | 13:25 |
| rburton | right | 13:27 |
| rburton | will rebase | 13:27 |
| rburton | did the virgl test fail again? | 13:28 |
| RP | rburton: I can't tell due to all the other failures | 13:29 |
| RP | rburton: it might be the thing causing those UNKNOWN issues | 13:29 |
| RP | hence its in holding pattern | 13:30 |
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| tgamblin | RP: is the coreutils patch still failing? I noticed the revert patches | 14:00 |
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| RP | tgamblin: multiple problems, some not your fault | 14:15 |
| RP | tgamblin: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/37/builds/1289 is the size of the ptest image growing too large | 14:16 |
| RP | tgamblin: coreutils-ptest_8.31-r0_amd64.deb is listed in https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/86/builds/521 too | 14:17 |
| RP | tgamblin: this latter one I'm not sure if that one is your patch or not | 14:17 |
| tgamblin | hmm | 14:19 |
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| rburton | kergoth: no upstream-status in your libcapng patches | 14:24 |
| kergoth | erk, oops. thanks | 14:24 |
| kergoth | i wonder if devtool finish should print a warning/reminder to add them :) | 14:24 |
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| LetoThe2nd | in a mc build, we have a recipe that refers to an artifact from another mc. when we use the file fetcher on ${TMPDIR}, we see problems in the sstate being used instead of the probably newly generated file. a hack we found is, prepending a "/" to ${TMPDIR}, therefore making it absolute and the fetcher always pulls it. yet, is that a recommendable way? | 15:18 |
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| kanavin_ | rburton, I've been updating and fixing ptests in some of the core recipes: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/log/?h=akanavin/package-version-updates | 15:38 |
| kanavin_ | holding off sending those, as there is a queue of previous work | 15:39 |
| kanavin_ | but sed/flex/gettext are now all at latest upstream and 100% ptest pass | 15:39 |
| RP | kanavin_: sorry I'm so lagged on testing/integrating :( | 15:40 |
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| kanavin_ | RP: it's entirely understandable, I have no problem with queueing and rebasing patches many times over | 15:42 |
| GeneralStupid | Hi, i have a question about UBOOT configuration. In my board it configure "UBOOT_CONFIG[sd] = "mx6ull_14x14_evk_config"" where do i find this config? | 15:42 |
| GeneralStupid | Iam working on my own MACHINE configuration | 15:43 |
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| GeneralStupid | and on top i have another question. I would like to put my application into a recipe like : recipe-myapp/src/... Is there a way to do this or do i need to overwrite the specific tasks? | 15:48 |
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| rburton | GeneralStupid: the docs cover 'how to write a recipe' | 16:19 |
| kergoth | sounds like they might want to put the source in the layer or something? unclear | 16:20 |
| GeneralStupid | kergoth: exactly. | 16:20 |
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| GeneralStupid | it will be software which is not intended to use outside of an yocto build | 16:21 |
| rburton | just put it in the layer and point at it with SRC_URI | 16:25 |
| rburton | SRC_URI can handle a file://directory/ and copy the contents | 16:25 |
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| tgamblin | RP: I'll submit a v3 for coreutils eventually. Clearly I've missed a few things in developing it! | 16:34 |
| RP | tgamblin: not really, its just a tricky one | 16:35 |
| RP | tgamblin: for the space issue there are patches in progress to remove "live" images from x86 by default which should help. rburton has sent a patch but it will break things so we're waiting on a second one | 16:35 |
| tgamblin | Well, I'm trying it out on another machine and I'm getting a few new issues, too | 16:36 |
| RP | tgamblin: you could test the reproducibility problem locally though and see if that is an issue or not | 16:36 |
| RP | tgamblin: ah :/ | 16:36 |
| tgamblin | yeah, I'm going to look into reproducibility too | 16:36 |
| tgamblin | for some reason "ptest-runner coreutils" just hangs when I call it | 16:37 |
| tgamblin | occasionally, rather | 16:37 |
| RP | tgamblin: that doesn't sound good :/ | 16:37 |
| * RP really dreams of deterministic failures | 16:37 | |
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| tgamblin | RP: I'll see about cutting some stuff out of the RDEPENDS for now, and make note of them in the patch for the future. Guess that means that an extra six passes with valgrind added is out of the question, though :) | 16:41 |
| RP | tgamblin: valgrind is definitely too much | 16:42 |
| RP | tgamblin: don't mind having a configuration option for it | 16:42 |
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| nrossi | RP: i noticed a revert of the gcc/configargs.h patch in master-next, was there any issue with it? | 16:49 |
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| RP | nrossi: it may or may not have caused a reproducibility regression | 16:54 |
| RP | nrossi: too many changes all causing too many problems. Its on hold until I can either tell whether it did or didn't | 16:55 |
| RP | nrossi: I didn't send email as I simply don't know :( | 16:55 |
| rburton | tgamblin: ptests are 'does this work' not 'has upstream introduced a leak' | 16:57 |
| rburton | tgamblin: ie primarily integration tests | 16:57 |
| tgamblin | rburton: right, but while poking around after seeing those build failures, I've found a couple of things I didn't catch when I first sent it to the list | 16:58 |
| nrossi | RP: no problem, just wanted to check if there was something too look into | 17:01 |
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| d_thomas | I'm trying to build the v1.4.1 libgpiod package (http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-support/libgpiod/libgpiod.inc?h=zeus) with python3 bindings. That fails because "QA Issue: non -staticdev package contains static .a library". Is there a way to stop the static package from building? | 17:21 |
| d_thomas | For reference I've added PACKAGECONFIG ?= "tools cxx python3" to the bb file to build the tools, cxx bindings, and python3 bindings | 17:22 |
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| qschulz | d_thomas: it's Yocto packages, so what you would like to modify is PACKAGES no PACKAGECONFIG. | 17:31 |
| qschulz | but just put the .a in the correct place | 17:31 |
| qschulz | or modify one of the FILES_${PN}-something to have the correct paths | 17:32 |
| qschulz | default paths if they are not overriden are in bitbake.conf | 17:32 |
| qschulz | afk now | 17:32 |
| d_thomas | Interesting, the recipes I started with used PACKAGECONFIG instead of PACKAGES. Let me try that | 17:33 |
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| d_thomas | If I use "PACKAGES ?= "tools cxx python3"" with that recipe, it does not actually build and include the tools. I have to use PACKAGECONFIG. Is that an error with the script? | 17:40 |
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| d_thomas | Sorry qschulz, but I'm not following what needs to be done to enable the python bindings with that recipe | 17:59 |
| d_thomas | And the way I have done it, causes a problem because there is a static library sitting in the site-packages directory and the QA script doesn't think it should be there | 18:00 |
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| * RP hmm, I guess its good I have wo selftest failure problems reproducing on one of the autobuilder workers | 18:37 | |
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| RP | Ran 1 test in 11029.456s is less good | 18:37 |
| rburton | d_thomas: the fix is to extend FILES_${PN}-staticdev with that .a file | 18:37 |
| tgamblin | ouch | 18:37 |
| RP | tgamblin: isolating it is a good first step at least. Now to see if I can make if fail faster :) | 18:38 |
| RP | unless someone else wants to try of course... | 18:38 |
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| tgamblin | RP: I can have a peek with some more details | 19:33 |
| tgamblin | may be later this evening before I get to it, though | 19:35 |
| d_thomas | rburton, could you explain a bit more? What does extending FILES_${PN}-staticdev with the file do? Right now it seems like the file is getting added to the deploy dir and it the QA test doesn't think it should be there | 19:45 |
| kergoth | d_thomas: the qa task is upset it's in the *wrong package*. if you put it in the right package, it won't end up in the wrong one | 19:46 |
| d_thomas | So the file is "gpiod.a". If I set FILES_${PN}-staticdev equal to that value, it will correctly locate the file? | 19:47 |
| kergoth | no, you have to specify the full path, not just a filename | 19:48 |
| kergoth | the full path relative to the root of the rootfs, that is. i.e. /usr/foo | 19:48 |
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| d_thomas | Right now bitbake -e shows "FILES_libgpiod-staticdev="/usr/lib/*.a /lib/*.a /usr/lib/libgpiod/*.a" | 19:48 |
| kergoth | where's gpiod.a ending up? | 19:49 |
| d_thomas | usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/gpiod.a | 19:49 |
| kergoth | FILES_${PN}-staticdev += "${PYTHON_SITEPACKAGES_DIR}/*.a | 19:50 |
| kergoth | " | 19:50 |
| kergoth | like i said, the path to the file. PYTHON_SITEPACKAGES_DIR is ${libdir}/${PYTHON_DIR}/site-packages, aka /usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages | 19:50 |
| d_thomas | Except I'm not sure the file is suppose to be there | 19:51 |
| d_thomas | ERROR: libgpiod-1.4.1-r0 do_package_qa: QA Issue: non -staticdev package contains static .a library: libgpiod-python path '/work/cortexa5hf-neon-poky-linux-gnueabi/libgpiod/1.4.1-r0/packages-split/libgpiod-python/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/gpiod.a' [staticdev] | 19:51 |
| kergoth | if you know enough about its buildsystem to disable it, go for it. i doubt anywhere here is an expert on libgpiod | 19:51 |
| kergoth | it's true that it's not typical to install static libraries in a python library search path | 19:52 |
| kergoth | that said, adding it to the FILES entry will at least ensure it's in the right package and will silence the QA issue | 19:52 |
| d_thomas | I don't know enough.... was thinking this was just an oops in the recipe that I could fix | 19:52 |
| kergoth | worth doing regardless. then pursue avoiding building it at all later | 19:53 |
| kergoth | alternatively, do_install_append () { rm -f ${D}${PYTHON_SITEPACKAGES_DIR}/*.a } | 19:53 |
| d_thomas | oh, actually I want to build the python bindings | 19:53 |
| kergoth | which will ensure it doesn't get packaged at all | 19:53 |
| d_thomas | By default they are not built | 19:53 |
| kergoth | yes, i know | 19:53 |
| kergoth | pursue avoiding building the .a at all later | 19:53 |
| kergoth | the .a isn't part of the python bindings, python doesn't load .a files | 19:53 |
| d_thomas | I tried a few attempts at avoiding the static library, but nothing successful | 19:53 |
| kergoth | right, so either remove it in do_install or add it to -staticdev as rburton suggested | 19:54 |
| d_thomas | I'll try the do_install fix you suggested. That seems like a clean workaround | 19:55 |
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| kergoth | agreed, no point packaging something that won't get used anyway.. | 19:56 |
| kergoth | we do generally package static libraries since they're useful in development, but i doubt this one is | 19:56 |
| d_thomas | kergoth, Thank you, libgpiod built. I'll build the full image next to verify that all the tools and bindings are there like I expect | 20:00 |
| kergoth | grats | 20:01 |
| kergoth | rburton: you know if anyone has done a recursive -w for oe-depends-dot, or a wrapper script to do so? | 20:04 |
| kergoth | particularly now that recipe-depends is gone.. | 20:04 |
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| RP | kergoth: I did write a reversed version of task-depends.dot the other day to try and debug something | 20:09 |
| RP | we do have a problem being able to visualise how things are pulled in :/ | 20:09 |
| kergoth | i still rather liked the simplicity of bb-whatdepends -r. see the very very bottom of https://github.com/kergoth/bb, last example. just uses indentation with '..' for items we've already traversed | 20:13 |
| kergoth | ideally it'd be nice to mark up the graph edges with additional info. deptask, DEPENDS, etc. why the edge is there | 20:14 |
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| LetoThe2nd | RP: actually mused the VSCode aspect for some time already. I just don't have the slightest clue what such a thing would be supposed to do. | 20:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: so if you actually have an idea for a use case, please shoot. i'm q pretty avid vscode user these days and i totally agree that this would be a massive "new audience" thing | 20:22 |
| d_thomas | kergoth, well libgpiod supposedly built the python bindings but did not deploy them. I'll have to look into that more... | 20:23 |
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| RP | LetoThe2nd: I was playing with the remote ssh vscode functionality today. Would be very cool if it could use OE to cross compile and debug on target | 20:29 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: a bit like the eclipse IDE plugin did | 20:30 |
| bluelightning | certainly vscode would be a better base these days | 20:31 |
| bluelightning | and it's a pretty nice IDE | 20:31 |
| RP | JPEW: looks like bitbake XXX-image -c populate_sdk_ext fails with my hashequiv patch | 20:34 |
| RP | JPEW: not looked into why yet | 20:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: i am doing seomthing quite similar all day long: VSCode via remote into build server, kicking off devtool deploy-target in the integrated terminal | 20:35 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: right, the question is whether we could put something better around it? | 20:35 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: or at least document how you can use vscode for this | 20:36 |
| RP | if only we had someone who did videos | 20:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: we certainly can do something better. the question is, what do we want to do bettre | 20:37 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: maybe make it so someone can use a prebuilt toolchain in there without needing to build from source? | 20:38 |
| * RP thinking out loud | 20:38 | |
| LetoThe2nd | so you'd say, target are the app developers, not the distro builders | 20:39 |
| * LetoThe2nd notes | 20:39 | |
| LetoThe2nd | its a good reasoning: if you have a horde of application developers who like your tools, its like a total sales guarantee for the OS/distro guys | 20:42 |
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| RP | LetoThe2nd: right. the distro people are usually happier with commandline | 21:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: let me think about this a bit. :) | 21:04 |
| dl9pf | RP: "xds" does exactly that integration | 21:04 |
| dl9pf | https://docs.automotivelinux.org/docs/en/master/devguides/reference/xds/part-1/xds-overview.html | 21:05 |
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| kergoth | hmm, why is python3 and bash and crap being pulled into a meta-environment build. | 21:06 |
| * kergoth scratches head | 21:06 | |
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| RP | kergoth: ptest? | 21:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | dl9pf: interesting, will look it up | 21:08 |
| RP | that has been the answer each time I wondered recently | 21:08 |
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| RP | dl9pf: that does look interesting. Can you run xdg-server from a native recipe too? | 21:09 |
| kergoth | ncurses in TOOLCHAIN_NEED_CONFIGSITE_CASCHE, which pulls in opkg-utils for update-alternatives, which needs python3, etc. | 21:09 |
| kergoth | even if nothing i'm doing with the sdk has anything to do with the site files. /me overrides it for now | 21:09 |
| kergoth | maybe i should resurrect those bits to use chkconfig's alternatives implementation.. | 21:09 |
| kergoth | having to build a target python3 just to get upd-alt is a little much :) | 21:11 |
| * kergoth yawns | 21:11 | |
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| dl9pf | RP: it is written in 'go' , atm we built it separately | 21:18 |
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| RP | dl9pf: of course, it would be :) | 21:19 |
| * zeddii chuckles | 21:20 | |
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| RP | dl9pf: it does sound interesting/useful and we could benefit as a project by focusing around it as I'd assume its not AGL specific? | 21:30 |
| RP | reproducible.ReproducibleTests.test_reproducible_builds: ERROR (3.16s) | 21:30 |
| * RP prefers that time to failure | 21:30 | |
| dl9pf | no. you throw the plain yocto sdk at it and it can compile | 21:31 |
| dl9pf | it is not specific. | 21:31 |
| RP | dl9pf: I couldn't see why it would be but I had to check :) | 21:32 |
| armpit | RP, the zeus ReproducibleTests.test_reproducible_builds: FAILED is intermittent.. | 21:44 |
| armpit | or maybe host related | 21:45 |
| armpit | I will open bugs on that plus the build perf and assign them to anuj | 21:45 |
| RP | armpit: I think its the already known perl issue | 21:49 |
| RP | armpit: we didn't block 3.0.0 for it so we wouldn't block 3.0.1 for it either assuming its the same one | 21:50 |
| armpit | needs to be bugged anyways.. | 21:50 |
| RP | armpit: Im sure there already is on | 21:50 |
| RP | one | 21:50 |
| armpit | build perf?? | 21:50 |
| armpit | I don't think its a blocker but we need to figure out why | 21:51 |
| RP | armpit: no, sorry, the reproducible one | 21:51 |
| RP | build perf needs a bug | 21:51 |
| armpit | on it | 21:51 |
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| armpit | RP, done | 22:05 |
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| khem | RP: I am reading the python2 removal patch and it seems we should not delete unadorned 'python' | 22:11 |
| khem | since when distro's drop py2 then python -> python3 | 22:11 |
| khem | should exist | 22:11 |
| khem | on arch python3 is default python for many years | 22:12 |
| khem | and many packages which needs python can work with python2 and python3 so they wont bother to change to use python3 explicitly | 22:13 |
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| RP | khem: well, we've mandated python be python3 for years, I'm not sure just swapping it is a good idea | 22:17 |
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| khem | but this will make life difficult for OE packagers since upstream package maintainer will still use 'python' and mean python3 | 22:20 |
| khem | why are we crusading | 22:20 |
| RP | khem: anything using "python" will probably be expecting python2 so we don't end up validating all our uses :/ | 22:24 |
| RP | khem: I really don't like just suddenly swapping it over and pretending everything is fine. We don't want python2 creeping in | 22:25 |
| khem | you are assuming unadorned python to be python2 which is not always the case | 22:28 |
| RP | khem: but sometimes can be | 22:31 |
| khem | python-unversioned-command in fc31 is pointing to py3 | 22:33 |
| khem | so whichever distro is switching defaults is providing /usr/bin/python | 22:34 |
| rburton | khem: thanks to arch being dumb the use of python is really hard | 22:37 |
| rburton | i agree with the PEP: don't use /usr/bin/python | 22:37 |
| rburton | because you can't know what it is | 22:37 |
| rburton | lets just patch anything that tries to use it to use a versioned hashbang | 22:38 |
| khem | rburton: since other distros are not doing it people will keep using it so we will be patching stuff until py4 comes out | 22:39 |
| rburton | transparently swapping python to be python3 would break at least one of the recipes we fixed earlier in the week | 22:39 |
| khem | and restart again | 22:39 |
| rburton | khem: i'd suggest that most upstreams are moving to versioned hashbangs because they can't rely on python being anything in particular, and don't want the pain of trying to write py2-and-py3-safe code | 22:39 |
| khem | I would like that however, I am afraid that upstream will ignore such changes | 22:40 |
| khem | if distros dont push it or provide solutions like what fedora is doing and arch is doing | 22:41 |
| rburton | if in a years time, python is universally py3 then we can review adding it back, but right now its far too ambigous | 22:41 |
| khem | I have already patches a dozen and its seems never ending | 22:42 |
| khem | lets switch to apple, no scripting langugaes period | 22:43 |
| rburton | did you try adding code back to make python->py3 and see how much breaks with the assumption that its py2? | 22:43 |
| khem | https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0563/ | 22:45 |
| khem | they are already talking about py4 | 22:45 |
| rburton | another good reason for python to be killed | 22:45 |
| rburton | is a bare python py2, py3 or py4 | 22:45 |
| * khem hugs rust | 22:48 | |
| khem | https://blog.rust-lang.org/2018/07/27/what-is-rust-2018.html | 22:48 |
| rburton | :) | 22:48 |
| khem | it promises to never have rust 2.0 | 22:49 |
| khem | just editions which can be mixed and demanded by source files | 22:49 |
| khem | there are cmake functions checking for python which are failing | 22:51 |
| khem | used by many apps | 22:51 |
| rburton | py3native should probably set PYTHON_EXECUTABLE | 22:51 |
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| khem | and PYTHON | 23:06 |
| * armpit PYRUSTC++ | 23:18 | |
| RP | the problem with out autobuilder failure is that its using our buildtools tarball and traceback2 is missing | 23:43 |
| * RP wonders if we can just use traceback | 23:44 | |
| RP | answer, yes we can | 23:47 |
| RP | but tomorrow | 23:48 |
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