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| tlwoerner | zeddi: is there a patch that you apply to kernel sources that allows "-c menuconfig" to work? | 02:09 |
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| tlwoerner | oops, zeddii ^^ | 02:11 |
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| armpit | tlwoerner, he is traveling so not sure what timezone he is in | 02:35 |
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| stacktrust | what's the best way for a downstream layer to disable boost in OE-core? It's serializing multiconfig build and only mandatory for systemtap? | 04:00 |
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| LetoThe2nd | stacktrust: well if nothing would need it, it wouldn't be built | 07:13 |
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| erbo | stacktrust: What LetoThe2nd said, and I guess you could use BBMASK from your own layer.conf to mask the recipes if you want to make sure nothing can pull in boost by mistake in the future. | 07:19 |
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| LetoThe2nd | one can certainly BBMASK things out, but usually fixing the fake dependency (or understanding the right one) is usually the better approach | 07:22 |
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| erbo | Agreed, it's just that if you're working on a large scale project it can sometimes be a bit hard to make sure everybody knows and remembers to check that a recipe isn't pulled in by changes in the future. Then it can be a good to add a mask with a comment with the rationale. | 07:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | erbo: so as usual. it depends (TM) | 07:28 |
| erbo | Absolutely :) The best thing would maybe be to understand why boost is causing issues with multiconfig build in the first place, and get that fixed. | 07:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | probably its some form of bottlenect in the DAG, like perl so often is too. | 07:30 |
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| PinkSnake | Morning guys, what is the better place to put a local device-tree file ( I would like to share the same between u-boot and kernel recipe :) ) ? | 07:42 |
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| PinkSnake | Morning guys, what is the better place to put a local device-tree file ( I would like to share the same between u-boot and kernel recipe :) ) ? | 08:07 |
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| Ad0 | I want to add my own .dtb file, namely dt-blob at root, how do I include this in my bbappend? | 09:00 |
| Ad0 | was looking at this one https://www.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2019-May/045121.html but I find it strange that he has it's own copy procedure for the defconfig, when it simply can be added to srcfiles | 09:03 |
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| Ad0 | do I really need to create a patch file to modify the kernel makefile? | 09:06 |
| qschulz | PinkSnake: Device Trees aren't exactly one to one compatible between U-Boot and Linux FYI. | 09:06 |
| qschulz | PinkSnake: on the topic now: create a recipe which provides this Device Tree and make it a DEPENDS of both your kernel and u-boot recipes | 09:06 |
| Ad0 | oh he had almost the same quesiton lol | 09:06 |
| qschulz | Ad0: .dtb or .dts? If you want to build it on its own, I think devicetree.bbclass should be helpful (never used it but it's the 5th time it comes up in the last few days). Otherwise, different options | 09:08 |
| Ad0 | .dts but one is dt-blob.bin output, and I will have another one for a device itself | 09:09 |
| qschulz | full .dts in SRC_URI, you add it to the right place and you patch the Makefile (or add dtbs-y += my.dts to the correct architecture makefile in some task) | 09:09 |
| qschulz | otherwise, patch with dts and makefile in it and put that in SRC_URI | 09:09 |
| qschulz | Ad0: "dt-blob.bin output" ? | 09:10 |
| PinkSnake | qschulz sound like a good idea :) Thx ! | 09:10 |
| Ad0 | yes, basic pin configurations | 09:10 |
| Ad0 | it's a special file | 09:10 |
| Ad0 | https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/blob/master/extra/dt-blob.dts | 09:10 |
| Ad0 | I could perhaps grep the meta-raspberrypi | 09:11 |
| Ad0 | they add a bunch of dts/dtb | 09:12 |
| qschulz | Ad0: could you explain what's hgappening, what's needed, what's what, where's should be what? You're using words I'm not used to (and rpi is a rather unusual ARM board :) ) | 09:14 |
| Ad0 | I want to produce a dt-blob.bin file that will be added to the root just like bcm2708-rpi-b.dtb | 09:16 |
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| Ad0 | so the questio is if I should just compile it myself and add the dtb, or if I should include the dts | 09:16 |
| Ad0 | I would like to have source files for everything as a part of the compile process really | 09:17 |
| Ad0 | isn't that the "correct" thing to do | 09:17 |
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| Ad0 | it seems like the linux kernel sources has the dts though, meta-raspberrypi doesn't add the dts on their own, just include the DTB in the boot using their variable which I can use as well of course | 09:21 |
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| qschulz | Ad0: then you're all set. Might need to just update your KERNEL_DEVICE_TREE in your machine conf: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.6.2/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#var-KERNEL_DEVICETREE | 09:29 |
| Ad0 | yeah thanks. might need to do both that and the rpi one | 09:30 |
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| Ad0 | seems like it has all changed | 09:43 |
| Ad0 | there's no mention of .dts files in arch/arm/boot/dts/Makefile | 09:43 |
| Ad0 | it seems to be just dynamically added and compiled if they are in the right directory. so maybe prior to build I can just copy the dts file to the right dir and that's that | 09:44 |
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| qschulz | Ad0: sources or we can't help | 09:44 |
| Ad0 | https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.19.100/source/arch/arm/Makefile | 09:46 |
| Ad0 | https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.19.100/source/arch/arm/boot/dts/Makefile | 09:46 |
| Ad0 | you see the dts files flat in this dir https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.19.100/source/arch/arm/boot/dts | 09:47 |
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| Ad0 | so my machine is "bcm" so it would compile all dts files that starts with bcm* as I see it | 09:51 |
| qschulz | Ad0: I doubt those are the sources used by meta-raspberrypi? | 09:51 |
| Ad0 | meta-raspberrypi uses the produced dtb files from that | 09:52 |
| Ad0 | https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.19.100/source/arch/arm/boot/dts/Makefile#L74 | 09:52 |
| Ad0 | let me find where it's referred | 09:53 |
| qschulz | arch/arm/boot/dts/Makefile mentions .dtb because those are kinda Makefile rules. X.dtb will ask for X.dts to be compiled | 09:55 |
| Ad0 | ok | 09:56 |
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| Ad0 | so KERNEL_DEVICETREE won't magically do that? | 09:57 |
| qschulz | RP: re: rootfs-postcommands: Remove spaces before ; in -ROOTFS_..._COMMAND mail... Isn't it just that he's trying to do _remove = "mycommand;" instead of just _remove = "mycommand"? I don't think we actually care if ROOTFS_.*_COMMAND have "; ; ; ;" in there right? (Haven't checked, just wondering) | 09:57 |
| Ad0 | https://github.com/FrankBau/meta-marsboard-bsp/blob/pyro/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-marsboard_4.1.15.bb | 09:59 |
| qschulz | Ad0: what's the recipe? Most likely this variable is making Yocto compile only the set DTBs instead of all of them or something, put them in deploy and if another variable is set, put them in /boot ? Something along the way | 09:59 |
| Ad0 | I will get to the bottom of it | 10:00 |
| qschulz | Ad0: I'm confused why you're looking at the raspberry-pi recipe if you're building that one... | 10:00 |
| qschulz | https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-dtb.inc?h=pyro | 10:01 |
| Ad0 | seems like it does it all? :) | 10:01 |
| Ad0 | I use warrior though: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-dtb.inc?h=warrior | 10:02 |
| qschulz | Ad0: why did you send me a pyro link then :) | 10:02 |
| Ad0 | haha oops. | 10:02 |
| qschulz | I think you should have enough clues now, I'll get back to work :) | 10:03 |
| Ad0 | yeah thanks a lot! | 10:03 |
| qschulz | pleasure, don't hesitate to come back if you need help | 10:03 |
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| Ad0 | I am so relieved that this is built in | 10:04 |
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| stacktrust | erbo LetoThe2nd: will try BBMASK. multiconfig goes through 25K tasks and the graph bottlenecks a few times during the build. Tried -g to trace boost dependencies, but it's not too useful via ssh. There's a 2016 comment in oe-core which says Boost is optional but it being marked as DEPENDS to avoid a cyclic dependency. | 10:16 |
| qschulz | stacktrust: dumb idea, but I though of it yesterday... could you actually get the .dot files through ssh. Then run bitbake -u taskexp (NO -g) on it? | 10:17 |
| qschulz | from your local station | 10:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | stacktrust: if there's a depends set then masking it out will probably just break the build. | 10:18 |
| stacktrust | The DEPENDS is in OE-core on systemtap, which is also not needed, so could be masked out also? | 10:19 |
| qschulz | stacktrust: if you try, let me know how that goes :) | 10:19 |
| stacktrust | qschulz: good idea, I need to setup a Linux GUI box. Mostly on iPad. Someone mentioned PNG generation, will track that down. | 10:20 |
| stacktrust | Toaster also promises a dependency graph and that would have a web interface. | 10:21 |
| qschulz | stacktrust: yeah I wouldn't go that path with PNG generation :) With a 3000 tasks image, it needed 5h to compile the png on my 12core CPU with 32GB of RAM :) | 10:22 |
| qschulz | (but maybe I did something wrong :) ) | 10:22 |
| stacktrust | whoa | 10:22 |
| qschulz | and it was unreadable in the end | 10:22 |
| stacktrust | Has anyone tried "bitbake buildtools-tarball" on zeus? It's failing to build tar, because it's trying to apply a CVE patch that is already upstream. But I can't find the recipe in OE-core which applies this patch, it seems to be magically constructed by SDK machinery. | 10:26 |
| stacktrust | these images are cool: https://electric-cloud.com/blog/yoctoopenembedded-bitbake-build-visualization/ | 10:32 |
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| Ad0 | sigh. it configures and recompiles the kernel each time :/ | 10:34 |
| qschulz | Ad0: when? | 10:34 |
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| Ad0 | when I change the linux-raspberrypi_%.bbappend and change KERNEL_DEVICETREE | 10:35 |
| qschulz | Ad0: WAIT. Where are you putting KERNEL_DEVICETREE? | 10:35 |
| Ad0 | I tried "dt-blob" without extension | 10:36 |
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| qschulz | Ad0: no... not what, where | 10:36 |
| qschulz | Ad0: whatever the answer is, it's expected, you change a variable which is used in tasks, thus those tasks will be re-run | 10:37 |
| Ad0 | in right | 10:37 |
| qschulz | KERNEL_DEVICETREE should be set in your machine configuration file (meta/conf/machine/blabla.conf | 10:37 |
| Ad0 | ok. | 10:37 |
| Ad0 | it got called though | 10:38 |
| Ad0 | No rule to make target 'dt-blob' Stop. | 10:38 |
| qschulz | Ad0: have you read the link I sent you? | 10:40 |
| Ad0 | I read about KERNEL_DEVICETREE in the mega manual | 10:40 |
| Ad0 | which link are you thinking about :) | 10:40 |
| qschulz | Read again then, you missed something in parenthesis | 10:40 |
| Ad0 | ok I will try .dtb but the extension should really be .bin to be picked up by the bootloader | 10:42 |
| Ad0 | I guess I have to mv the file in a do_something_task | 10:42 |
| Ad0 | No rule to make target 'arch/arm/boot/dts/dt-blob.dtb'. Stop. | 10:44 |
| Ad0 | I guess it needs to be copied there specifically ? | 10:45 |
| Ad0 | I don't have my own machine config yet so | 10:45 |
| qschulz | one step at a time | 10:45 |
| qschulz | yes, dt-blob.dts has to be in arch/${ARCH}/boot/dts. You have an example on one way to do it in the marswhatevr recipe you sent me earlier | 10:46 |
| qschulz | and you can see they're passing a defconfig as well | 10:48 |
| Ad0 | yeah I was unsure if that was outdated or not | 10:49 |
| qschulz | Ad0: I'm so confused, are you actually building for an rpi or for a marsboard? | 10:52 |
| Ad0 | rpi. I just found that one to find an example | 10:52 |
| qschulz | Ad0: then they're using config fragments | 10:54 |
| qschulz | from a quick look, so you'll need to create the ones you want manually | 10:54 |
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| Ad0 | hm | 10:57 |
| Ad0 | if I were to make my own machine. is it possible to inherit include files from meta-raspberrypi ? | 10:58 |
| Ad0 | or do I have to copy it all over / join it in one file | 10:58 |
| qschulz | Ad0: you can, just use relative path from the root of the meta-raspberrypi layer | 10:58 |
| Ad0 | that's nice! | 10:58 |
| qschulz | and it's not inherit, it's include or require for file other than bbclasses | 10:59 |
| Ad0 | I am just dreading another recompile :D | 10:59 |
| Ad0 | I need to clear the old machines as well | 10:59 |
| qschulz | new machine means almost a complete rebuild :) | 10:59 |
| Ad0 | yes | 11:00 |
| Ad0 | it compiled now btw | 11:01 |
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| PinkSnake | Is it possible to get tasks dependency tree of one recipe or image? Like listtasks but to know taks call order ? | 12:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | PinkSnake: bitbake -g $YOURRECIPE | 12:14 |
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| PinkSnake | LetoThe2nd thx ;) | 12:17 |
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| stuom1 | what can i do when "devtool modify" cannot fetch sources because of "Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] | 12:55 |
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| stuom1 | correction, cannot patch_do_patch | 12:56 |
| stuom1 | and why i dont get this error when normally bitbaking it | 12:57 |
| qschulz | stuom1: I had some issues with patchdir=.. for a few of my recipes when using devtool. CHeck those. I'd check that the workspace for devtool is clean but I doubt it would let you do something otherwise. Are you using the same machine and distro with devtool than with bitbake? | 13:02 |
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| stuom1 | qschulz: i didnt even know i can have different settings for devtool, but atleast explicitly i havent changed anything and devtool has worked with many other recipes. But i will check these, thanks! | 13:08 |
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| fullstop | that sinking feeling when changing one recipe triggers a rebuild of nearly everything | 14:37 |
| rburton | fullstop: depending on what you're doing, you can use locked sigs to stop that | 14:38 |
| fullstop | I deserved this one. :-) | 14:39 |
| rburton | i used https://github.com/rossburton/bb/blob/master/libexec/bb-lockdown when i was touching perl.bb and didn't want it to rebuild perl-native every time | 14:39 |
| fullstop | And I fully blame nvidia for requiring an older gcc toolchain. | 14:39 |
| fullstop | rburton: saving that for later, thanks! | 14:40 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: (Yocto / OpenEmbedded) Enabling systemd's libcryptsetup <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31250300/yocto-openembedded-enabling-systemds-libcryptsetup> | 14:40 |
| fullstop | with that being said, I'm setting up sstate-cache mirrors so that others here can start making recipes / developing for our platforms without building the world. It's fantastic. | 14:41 |
| fullstop | It's taken me months to get to this point, working on this on and off, but this is definitely an area where yocto bests buildroot by a wide margin. | 14:42 |
| rburton | \o/ | 14:44 |
| qschulz | fullstop: are y'all using the same desktop distro? how much is the sstate-mirror used/efficient? I've been wondering if uninative is enough or not even when you have drastically different distros | 14:44 |
| rburton | qschulz: uninative means all hosts are identical | 14:44 |
| qschulz | rburton: has it ever all been this? | 14:45 |
| rburton | sorry not sure what you're asking | 14:45 |
| fullstop | qschulz: yes, but I've set up docker environments to ensure that. | 14:45 |
| qschulz | I mean, no host tools peeking through this uninative thing. even in branches before zeus/master? | 14:46 |
| fullstop | there are host tools which peek through. "file" is one example. | 14:46 |
| rburton | qschulz: host tools don't go into the hashes so won't cause hash changes | 14:46 |
| rburton | containers is a better solution all over | 14:47 |
| qschulz | fullstop: yeah, that's what I was thinking about. A few people running distros with no official Yocto support (arch, gentoo) are running containers but like 2% of the company, others are running... outdated distros | 14:47 |
| rburton | if you're using container feel free to turn off uninative to save a little bit of time | 14:47 |
| qschulz | rburton: interesting! | 14:47 |
| fullstop | my desktop is arch, so I'm using docker to run with a ubuntu user space. | 14:47 |
| qschulz | fullstop: yup, we've one dev here doing the same | 14:48 |
| rburton | i should get around to learning how to do that effectively | 14:48 |
| qschulz | custom dockerfile though, hopefully we can sync it between people wanting to use docker | 14:48 |
| qschulz | fullstop: how do you manage X with those dockers? e.g. is -utaskexp still usable or -c menuconfig for example | 14:49 |
| rburton | qschulz: have you seen Pyrex? | 14:49 |
| fullstop | qschulz: one sec, I based it on something I used w/nvidia stuff. | 14:49 |
| rburton | https://github.com/garmin/pyrex <-- transparent docker magic for company-wide deployment | 14:49 |
| qschulz | rburton: I've heard about it yes, I'm just gathering info from multiple people :) | 14:49 |
| fullstop | qschulz: https://github.com/atinfinity/sdk_manager_docker -- check out launch_container.sh | 14:49 |
| fullstop | You can launch, for example, xterm from within the container. | 14:50 |
| fullstop | The volume for the yocto build is just a directory on the host, so others can use graphical editors on the host to make changes if that's their thing. | 14:52 |
| roussinm | When creating a repo is it preferred to use the tarball vs git repo? | 14:53 |
| roussinm | s/repo/recipe/ | 14:53 |
| fullstop | I don't know if I'm in the majority here, but git for me. | 14:54 |
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| qschulz | roussinm: just *guessing* here but I think if you change the SRCREV of the git recipe, you just download the difference in objects from the previous SRCREV. New tarball = new tarball. So space advantage when using git if multiple updates? But overall, perfectly clueless | 14:58 |
| qschulz | also depends if you have proper tarball releases, if not, don't use them. | 14:58 |
| qschulz | (and I think it's not advisable to use archives from github but I'm not so sure anymore and I don't remember where I saw it in Yocto) | 14:59 |
| roussinm | qschulz: the problem I have with using tarball is when you use devtool, it's possible to devtool modify a recipe that is a tarball. | 15:02 |
| roussinm | it's *not* | 15:02 |
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| roussinm | Maybe that should be a feature request? | 15:02 |
| qschulz | what? really? | 15:02 |
| roussinm | qschulz: Yes, try to devtool modify a recipe which is a tarball i.e. lttng-ust. | 15:03 |
| roussinm | It will error out saying that it can't find a git repo. | 15:03 |
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| qschulz | roussinm: I just did | 15:07 |
| qschulz | on thud | 15:07 |
| JPEW | RP: I think I solved YOCTO #13763. Bad interaction between SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH code and AUTOINC | 15:07 |
| roussinm | I'm on warrior? | 15:09 |
| JPEW | Err, not AUTOINC, AUTOREV | 15:09 |
| roussinm | qschulz: no sry I'm on zeus. | 15:09 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Clone repository in post-process function in Yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60006492/clone-repository-in-post-process-function-in-yocto> || Enabling systemd's libcryptsetup <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60006387/enabling-systemds-libcryptsetup> | 15:10 |
| qschulz | roussinm: try with vanilla poky on master. If it's broken, report. If not, try on zeus with vanilla poky. If broken, report. If not, investigate wtf your layers are doing :) | 15:11 |
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| roussinm | qschulz: it's interesting that our layers could side-effet devtool... | 15:13 |
| qschulz | Distros are very powerful for example. I had reicpe mismatches during parsing because of a vendor Yocto layer | 15:14 |
| qschulz | Please reproduce and report, that feels like normal use case for devtool | 15:14 |
| roussinm | qschulz: it felt like a normal use case for us too. So I'll try to reproduce without any proprietary layers. | 15:16 |
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| rburton | roussinm: i prefer tarballs: typically smaller and easier to mirror | 15:25 |
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| roussinm | rburton: yes I prefer them too for that reason, but sometimes isn't useful to have a git history to be able understand some part of the code that we are trying to patch throught devtool? Could devtool work with devupstream? | 15:30 |
| rburton | i think kanavin fixed some bad devupstream/devtool interaction recently in master | 15:31 |
| roussinm | rburton: Oh nice! | 15:31 |
| rburton | but that's a good reason to just use git, if you're patching it | 15:31 |
| zeddii | crap. history scrolled to far for me. RP: if you had a though on that mips32 kmod test failure, it scrolled away. sorry about that. if not, no worries either. | 15:34 |
| zeddii | I was out checking the brexit countdown clock in brussels :D | 15:34 |
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| roussinm | If I want to remove python3 from sysroot/TARGET of the generated sdk (we don't need the target binaries), should it be as simple as TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK_remove += "python3" ? | 15:58 |
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| roussinm | Maybe we should hard assign TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK with the stuff we only need? I don't feel like that's the "yocto" way.. | 16:01 |
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| rob_gries | qschulz, so I think that I'm getting closer and I am getting a different error from bitbake when including dev-pkgs in the IMAGE_FEATURES of the APQ8053 BSP -- I am now getting multilib duplicate files errors when building in glibc-dev and lib32-glibc-dev into the image. | 16:22 |
| rob_gries | qschulz, The error is the exact one reported by this person -- https://www.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2016-October/032408.html | 16:22 |
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| roussinm | ohhhhh one thing that I just found out is that by default if the target is linux it's going to use populate_sdk_ext hmmm, we don't want that for us. | 16:29 |
| rob_gries | Is it possible blacklist or remove the 32-Bit multilib version of the glibc-dev package so as not to trigger the multilib check error: duplicate files issue for the headers? | 16:33 |
| qschulz | rob_gries: PACKAGE_EXCLUDE = "lib32-glibc-dev" maybe? in conf/local.conf. But this might trigger a build error | 16:34 |
| rob_gries | qschulz, I'll give it a try. I already have build errors at this point anyway, so what's one more? /jk | 16:35 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Can't run apt-get update on yocto linux [closed] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59989380/cant-run-apt-get-update-on-yocto-linux> | 16:41 |
| rob_gries | qschulz: I have unfortunately have reached the same multilib error. Thanks for your help though. | 16:42 |
| JPEW | RP: Ah, that explains the ca-certificates bug also; allarch.bbclass changes WORKDIR in anon python, so the tasks are looking for the epoch file in the wrong place! | 16:54 |
| rburton | aaah | 17:00 |
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| dv|2 | my toaster can't get AUTOREV from git - gives an exception. the same user, toaster runs can get revision with the same copy-pasted command. | 17:05 |
| dv|2 | where should I dig a problem? | 17:05 |
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| dv|2 | I am using ~/.ssh/id_rsa key as the git key | 17:09 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: When a recipe is trying to install files into a shared area when those files already exist.? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60009650/when-a-recipe-is-trying-to-install-files-into-a-shared-area-when-those-files-alr> || Handle git submodules to make a "snapshot" of current state <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60009445/handle-git-submodules-to-make-a-snapshot-of-current-state> | 19:11 |
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| JPEW | tlwoerner: Did you see my 2 patches to meta-rockchip (minor fix to rock-pi-4 description and rename tinker-rk3288 -> tinker-board)? | 19:37 |
| tgamblin | JPEW: you and kanavin figured out YP bug 13755 before I even got to start working on it! :P | 19:39 |
| yocti | Bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13755 normal, Medium+, 3.1 M3, trevor.gamblin, NEW , binutils-doc man pages have build timestamp encoded in them | 19:39 |
| JPEW | tgamblin: Ya, I'm not sure if we can use perl-native for pod2man; there's been some resistance to that when it's come up before | 19:40 |
| JPEW | Adds a big bottleneck to the build | 19:40 |
| JPEW | tlwoerner: Ah, actually you probably didn't because I sent it to the wrong mailing list :( | 19:42 |
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| JPEW | Ready | 20:00 |
| JPEW | heh wrong chat :) | 20:00 |
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| denix | big thanks to RP and Jefro for scottrif's memoriam! | 23:49 |
| * armpit raises a glass of Bushmills whiskey in honor of Scott | 23:50 | |
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