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| rabbit9911 | So if I have a an sstate cache. Does the deploy step get skipped? | 00:02 |
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| rabbit9911 | Or what step gets skipped and replaced with sstate? | 00:03 |
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| alejandrohs | rabbit9911: sstate saves up the task artifacts, evaluates if something has changed by a signature and does not execute the task if it already has the artifacts it would produce | 00:59 |
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| rabbit9911 | I added a task after do_deploy that copies ${B}. But it does not get ran unless its a clean build | 01:41 |
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| khem | rabbit9911: B is almost empty when rebuilding and its reused from sstate | 02:35 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Reverse-engineering a robot; need some help running scripts without command line access [closed] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61536561/reverse-engineering-a-robot-need-some-help-running-scripts-without-command-line> | 04:20 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to add Sudouser in Yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61537287/how-to-add-sudouser-in-yocto> | 05:50 |
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| sagner | Should PERSISTENT_DIR be shared between two build dirs (we use two build dirs using the same metadata on two machines to speedup builds. I was wondering if it is safe/a good idea to share PERSISTENT_DIR between them). | 12:13 |
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| sagner | Probably the question should be more, is it safe to share PERSISTENT_DIR? | 13:06 |
| JPEW | sanger: No I don't think you can share the (simutaneously | 13:18 |
| JPEW | (simultaneously at least) | 13:18 |
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| kergoth | I'd be curious what your goal is with that. It's unlikely to have much of a performance benefit, unless you have a lot of autorev recipes and also change the bb srcrev cache policy | 13:25 |
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| sagner | kergoth: I want to make sure the autorev recipes use the same ref... | 13:32 |
| sagner | kergoth: I do not care which one, I care that they use the same basically. | 13:33 |
| kergoth | Are these automated builds? | 13:33 |
| sagner | JPEW: particular reason why? | 13:33 |
| sagner | kergoth: yes | 13:33 |
| kergoth | there are multiple options depending on your requirements. there's a script to collect autorev srcrevs and write them to a .conf that you can include, for example, to lock them down before any of the builds begin | 13:33 |
| kergoth | sagner: https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/scripts/buildhistory-collect-srcrevs | 13:34 |
| sagner | kergoth: oh, that sounds like a good alternative, do you have some pointers? | 13:34 |
| kergoth | emits SRCREV_pn-foo = "bar" lines | 13:34 |
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| sagner | kergoth: interesting, will have a look at that | 13:35 |
| kergoth | hmm, although, that one requires buildhistory, so that might require that a first build be done first, that might not be ideal | 13:35 |
| * kergoth ponders | 13:35 | |
| kergoth | in theory sharing persistent_dir might be viable, it's just sqlite, i'd wonder if *all* of its contents are save to be shared though. perhaps examine their contents with the sqlite cli | 13:35 |
| kergoth | that said, the idea of doing an up front lock down does seem viable even if that particular script isn't, all you'd need is a bitbake -p and then extract the current values of SRCREV from the affected recipes | 13:36 |
| sagner | kergoth: yeah that is a bit unfortunate. Also, we have different build configurations, and some use different recipes with autorev... So I would have to make sure that I ran one build of all the different configuration first to collect all autorevs | 13:36 |
| kergoth | i'd check to see exactly when buildhistory writes the srcrev info. if it's at parse time, it'd be viable | 13:36 |
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| kergoth | ah | 13:37 |
| kergoth | fair point | 13:37 |
| kergoth | i kind of hate autorev at this point, it's a pain despite the benefits for active development workflows :) | 13:37 |
| JPEW | sagner: Ya, I think it's something that could possible work, but its certainly not tested. Hard to know if any asumptions about exclusive access were made | 13:37 |
| tsjsieb | Hi, I'm trying to create a sdk with libxml2, so I added IMAGE_INSTALL += " libxml2 " to core-image-minimal.bbappend and did bitbake core-image-minimal -c populate_sdk. When I install the resulting poky-glibc-x86_64-core-image-minimal-armv7a-vfp-machine-toolchain-3.1.sh , I can't find the libxml headers in the sysroot. What am I missing | 13:37 |
| JPEW | kergoth: I really like devupstream... except that is breaks devtool | 13:38 |
| kergoth | devupstream is the one that makes the git development version into a bbclassextend variant? | 13:39 |
| kergoth | that does have promise | 13:39 |
| JPEW | kergoth: Almost. It makes a virtual class of the recipe that uses git while the stable one can use a tarball/whatever: e.g.: https://github.com/Igalia/meta-webkit/blob/master/recipes-browser/wpewebkit/wpewebkit_2.28.2.bb | 13:40 |
| JPEW | Pairs well with: https://github.com/Igalia/meta-webkit/blob/master/conf/include/webkit-bleeding.inc | 13:40 |
| JPEW | In other words, devupstream doesn't imply AUTOREV, but you can combine them together easily | 13:41 |
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| kergoth | that's nice, no need for _git recipes floating around anymore | 13:42 |
| JPEW | kergoth: right | 13:42 |
| rburton | its so close but not quite there | 13:42 |
| rburton | you can't combine devupstream+native | 13:42 |
| JPEW | We've also used it optionally pull bleeding edge for some oe-core recipes in a bbappend | 13:43 |
| kergoth | oh, huh, didn't think about that. it'd be nice to have a generic way to handle that, but allowing every extended variant to combine would be a potential explosion of combinations | 13:43 |
| kergoth | hmm | 13:43 |
| rburton | kergoth: have a think and come back with an idea :) | 13:44 |
| rburton | step one would be stopping native being treated specially | 13:44 |
| rburton | (native and nativesdk are implemented quite differently) | 13:44 |
| kergoth | that reminds me, i really hate that native sets prefix=. i get why, so we can search and replace it, but i still hate it | 13:44 |
| sagner | kergoth: bitbake -p seems not enough for openembedded-core/scripts/buildhistory-collect-srcrevs, I guess srcrevs are only resolved after fetch? | 13:46 |
| kergoth | they are resolved at parse time, i think just buildhistory hooks later to write it | 13:46 |
| tsjsieb | Is this the right place to ask for a short help question trying to create a crosscompile SDK? | 13:47 |
| tsjsieb | Or is another channel more appropriate | 13:48 |
| sagner | kergoth: yeah you are right, they are in cache/bb_persist_data.sqlite3. I think I try just sharing this sqlite database, and then get the hases at the end of the build from there. | 13:49 |
| rburton | tsjsieb: are you using yocto to create the sdk? | 13:49 |
| tsjsieb | yes, Hi, I'm trying to create a sdk with libxml2, so I added IMAGE_INSTALL += " libxml2 " to core-image-minimal.bbappend and did bitbake core-image-minimal -c populate_sdk. When I install the resulting poky-glibc-x86_64-core-image-minimal-armv7a-vfp-machine-toolchain-3.1.sh , I can't find the libxml headers in the sysroot. What am I missing | 13:50 |
| kergoth | tsjsieb: the first thing i'd do is bitbake -e core-image-minimal | grep IMAGE_INSTALL= to make sure your change took effect and you didn't do something silly like put the bbappend int he wrong place (i've been there :) | 13:51 |
| tsjsieb | that does contain the libxml2 I've added, and the image also contains the .so | 13:54 |
| tsjsieb | it's (as far as I can see now) only the content of the libxml2-dev package I'm missing, when I install the created sdk | 13:57 |
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| khem | RP: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=kraj/morty I am able to build core-image-sato for qemumips on ubuntu 18.04 now :) | 15:18 |
| khem | RP: sadly there is no uninative support in daisy I think | 15:18 |
| khem | otherwise I could try that out too | 15:19 |
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| kergoth | NOTE: Previous bitbake instance shutting down?, waiting to retry... | 15:57 |
| kergoth | sigh, not again | 15:57 |
| kergoth | can't do a build at all at the moment | 15:58 |
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| Guestiii | hello does exist a website providing Yocto pre-built toolchains and images? | 16:15 |
| Guestiii | this looks outdated http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/ | 16:16 |
| halstead | Guestiii, Like the ones at http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/releases/yocto/ ? | 16:16 |
| Guestiii | halstead that's perfect. Thank you | 16:18 |
| stwcx | I feel like I saw this go by in release notes once but can't remember. What is the "new" replacement for pn-depends.dot? How do I find something like the RDEPEND graph? | 16:20 |
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| RP | khem: nice! We'll have to collect together some of this stuff. I was wondering about seeing how much we could make buildable on the autobuilder even | 16:36 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: good news is I've fixed the SIGILL issues. We're now seeing a spate of testimage_virgl_gtk_sdl failures :/ | 16:55 |
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| kanavin_home | RP: that is weird, there is nothing in master-next that is obviously linked to it | 17:14 |
| kanavin_home | RP: I can try to reproduce maybe? | 17:14 |
| RP | kanavin_home: right, I don't understand :/ | 17:14 |
| RP | kanavin_home: I'd welcome any help understanding what broke | 17:14 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: I'm trying master with a cache invalidation now but its going to take a while and its maint time on the AB which will delay things | 17:15 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: master worked so it is something in -next | 17:33 |
| kanavin_home | RP: right, I started a build with master too just now, will then try -next, and bisect as needed | 17:35 |
| RP | kanavin_home: thanks. I'd best hold off doing anything with those patches until we figure this out | 17:35 |
| kanavin_home | RP: btw, would you be ok changing some maintainers.inc entries to 'community maintenance <oe-core@lists..openembedded.org>'? The specific effect is that AUH patches for those will go straight to the list. | 17:37 |
| kanavin_home | some maintainers are just gone, or never reacting, so I'd start with those | 17:37 |
| RP | kanavin_home: lets discuss that on the list | 17:38 |
| kanavin_home | RP: right, sure | 17:38 |
| smurray | kanavin_home: is there a list of those recipes? I'd be open to taking some over | 17:39 |
| kanavin_home | smurray: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/conf/distro/include/maintainers.inc | 17:39 |
| kanavin_home | if you list yourself there, AUH will be sending you monthly upgrade patches (or info that there's a new version that couldn't be auto-upgraded). | 17:40 |
| kanavin_home | your task is then to send the patch to oe-core list. | 17:40 |
| smurray | kanavin_home: right, but it's the ones that are in need of replacement maintainers that I'd be interested in | 17:40 |
| smurray | kanavin_home: in the past it's sort of looked like everything had someone signed up | 17:40 |
| kanavin_home | smurray: all of the python3 stuff | 17:41 |
| smurray | kanavin_home: heh, aka the "fun" stuff | 17:41 |
| kanavin_home | smurray: also @windriver.com people aren't doing that great job lately | 17:42 |
| smurray | kanavin_home: okay, I'll look at the last few AUH mails to the list to see what looks feasible and see how people respond to your suggestion re the community marking | 17:44 |
| kanavin_home | smurray: thanks | 17:46 |
| smurray | kanavin_home: just curious, do you test your updates on the autobuilder before submission, or locally with a set of configs? | 17:50 |
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| kanavin_home | smurray: AUH tests that they build on a range of targets | 17:57 |
| kanavin_home | I don't generally test at runtime, only for some specific things | 17:57 |
| kanavin_home | smurray: I don't actually have AB access, so leave that to RP | 17:58 |
| RP | kanavin_home: could be arranged :) | 17:59 |
| smurray | kanavin_home: ah, right. I guess I was thinking more of the case of non-auto-generated updates | 18:00 |
| kanavin_home | RP:"runqemu - ERROR - Failed to run qemu: qemu-system-x86_64: could not configure /dev/net/tun (tap1): Operation not permitted" - how can I run qemu on the worker machines? | 18:01 |
| kanavin_home | smurray: for those I test that they at least build :) and if they're native tools, then that they still work. | 18:01 |
| smurray | kanavin_home: okay | 18:02 |
| kanavin_home | "runqemu - INFO - Acquiring lockfile /tmp/qemu-tap-locks/tap0.lock failed: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/tmp/qemu-tap-locks/tap0.lock'" | 18:02 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: you'll have to sudo -iu pokybuild | 18:08 |
| RP | kanavin_home: keep in mind its maintenance right now so workers will be rebooting | 18:08 |
| kanavin_home | RP: right, I have to restart the build as that user then - I made a separate directory in pokybuild home | 18:15 |
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| alejandrohs | zeddii: I hadnt realized, were looking good on the ELC schedule page | 18:18 |
| RP | kanavin_home: ok, cool | 18:21 |
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| kanavin_home | RP: master passed on debian10. Running master-next now. | 18:50 |
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| kanavin_home | RP: master-next also passed on debian10 | 19:14 |
| zeddii | :D | 19:17 |
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| kanavin_home | RP: so I can only guess the build on AB where all three selftests failed had some kind of poisoned cache item :-/ | 19:22 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: pick the abi bump off the top of master-next ? | 19:27 |
| RP | kanavin_home: sorry, I missed context | 19:27 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: that is troublesome. Which deian10 was this? | 19:28 |
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| kanavin_home | RP: debian-ty-1. I can try on fedora to get a second confirmation | 19:40 |
| kanavin_home | RP: the selftest ran on a different debian10 I think | 19:41 |
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| kanavin_home | fedora30-ty-2 won't let me in :-/ | 20:10 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: this was a complete build from scratch so there shouldn't have been any interference :/ | 20:41 |
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| kergoth | RP: hmm, we should get a bitbake -p to dump a list of available targets for shell completion to use eventually :) | 21:24 |
| RP | kergoth: memres would make that work a lot better | 21:25 |
| kergoth | agreed | 21:26 |
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