Tuesday, 2020-08-04

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SquashJamboreeAnyone having issues connecting to downloads.yoctoproject.org ?03:06
SquashJamboreeI'm having connections timeout from South Pacific, East Coast US, West Coast US03:07
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mckoangood morning06:55
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mckoanLetoThe2nd: good morning07:49
LetoThe2ndmckoan: howdy!07:49
erbogood morning07:52
PaowZ_'morning all07:56
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frscHi, is there some issue with the servers? My dunfell build fails to fetch opkg from http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/releases/opkg/opkg-0.4.2.tar.gz.08:08
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LetoThe2ndfails for me too.08:11
mckoanfrsc: same problem here08:11
LetoThe2ndRP: do you have magic powers here or do we have to wait until USian timzones?08:12
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RPLetoThe2nd: hmm, depends what is wrong :/08:15
LetoThe2ndRP: can't tell you :(08:16
qschulzRP: on :443 wget reports a connection, on :80 it does not even connect. In both cases, wget does not get anything08:17
qschulzRP: is the one my dns give me08:17
qschulzs/one/IP for downloads.yoctoproject.org/08:17
qschulzRP: no ping as well (but might be disabled?)08:18
qschulzRP: for :443 => Unable to establish SSL connection., for :80 connection timeout08:19
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RPits not seeing its connection to the nas :/08:19
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RPqschulz, LetoThe2nd: Its beyond anything I can diagnose. We need halstead :/08:33
RPI mean I could try and fix it but its better I don't ;-)08:33
LetoThe2ndRP: kay, thanks for having a look. so we know what to tell people :)08:34
qschulzRP: there's a curse on halstead and non-US TZ I think :D08:34
RPLetoThe2nd: It looks to me like the nas is rather unhappy :(08:34
qschulzRP: would it make sense to have a status.yoctoproject.org?08:35
RPqschulz: we've typically been reliable enough not to need one08:35
qschulzbecause I can predict already we'll have some mails and people joining IRC for the day asking the same question :)\08:35
LetoThe2ndRP: i am unhappy too right now (for completely unrelated reasons, though), so the NAS is in good company :)08:35
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RPqschulz: its all a question of time to implement such a thing (and who would update the status?)08:36
qschulzRP: /me shrugs You don't need one until you need one but eh, there are probably much more important things to spend time on :)08:36
RPqschulz: I just know what the backlog of things that need doing looks like :(08:37
qschulzRP: automated report of that? TBH, I don't know how the industry is doing such pages and in no means am I a sysadmin of any sort so... letting the people do their job :)08:37
RPqschulz: where do we report the status of the status page?08:38
RPqschulz: sorry, my brain is now stuck in a recursive loop :)08:38
qschulzRP: break;08:38
qschulzRP: saved you... wow that was close08:38
* LetoThe2nd usually recommends beers to break such loops.08:38
qschulzLetoThe2nd: are you drinking beers until your brain segfault out of the loop :D?08:39
LetoThe2ndqschulz: thats one option.08:39
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frscRP: usually the status of the status page is reported on social media (twitter, ...), so you guys need a social media department ;)08:40
LetoThe2ndfrsc: you called? ;-)08:40
RPqschulz: thanks :)08:40
* LetoThe2nd is the antisocial dpt. :)08:40
qschulzLetoThe2nd: says the one who started a Twitch account, uploaded videos on Youtube, joined Twitter, Instagram and TikTok to spread knowledge about Yocto ;)08:41
LetoThe2ndits all a guerilla mission to make everybody believe that YP is so unbelievably hard to use that they all sign up for windows iot!08:42
* LetoThe2nd gets a sales share!08:42
frscqschulz: LetoThe2nd: Aha, so you already have a social media department. Can you post that downloads.yoctoporoject.org is down ;)08:43
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qschulzfrsc: LetoThe2nd has unofficial accounts AFAIK. ndec might be the correct person to tell/ask about?08:45
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LetoThe2ndYes, no official tweets from my side)08:46
LetoThe2ndndec: ping ^^^^08:46
frscLetoThe2nd: Great! If I had a Twitter account I would retweet... ;)08:46
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* LetoThe2nd hi5es ndec 08:48
frscLetoThe2nd: ndec: Nice, so now all you need to do is using a twitter bot to do it automatically ;D08:49
ndecheh.. that's a good idea.08:49
LetoThe2ndwe have many good ideas, unfortunately lacking time and money to actually implement them.08:50
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hopper_Sign it's going to be a good day for a YP build. Building powercut just as my morning coffee touched the cup. Oh joy!! Very thankful for SSTATE :)08:56
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jonteAre postfuncs supposed to be executed when functions are executed using bb.build.exec_func ? I'm having an issue where archiver.bbclass isn't invoking a postfunc on do_unpack in openjdk-8-common.inc. Here's archiver.bbclass: https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/classes/archiver.bbclass#L478 , and here's openjdk-8-common: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-java/tree/recipes-core/openjdk/openjdk-8-09:02
jonteSince that postfunc isn't being invoked, some 'submodules' of openjdk aren't unpacked, and do_patch in the archiver workdir fails :-/09:03
jonteFrom the docs, it seems like postfuncs are for tasks, so maybe this is the intended behavior when do_unpack is executed as a function?09:04
hopper_I was about to comment that. I believe this is correct behaviour as its for tasks09:05
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jontehopper_, I "solved" my issue by converting the postfuncs to _append on do_unpack, but that doesn't seem like an ideal solution..09:06
hopper_lol your a perfectionist with too much time lol09:06
jonteWell, I assume they're postfuncs and not appended for a reason :)09:07
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qschulzjonte: prefuncs are shell functions only? (not sure about that) so you can have a python task have shell prefuncs/postfuncs09:10
qschulzwhereas you can't mix shell and python functions in the same task09:10
jonteqschulz, Ahh.. Yes, they're bash functions. That's probably the reasoning for using a postfunc.. My _append simply does bb.build.exec_func on the same functions. Maybe that's not so bad then? I could send a patch to meta-java.09:13
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qschulzjonte: FWIW, they should not be bash functions but shell functions (POSIX) so that they can't be run on any system which does not have /bin/sh -> /bin/bash09:17
jonteRight, they're regular shell functions.09:18
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escalionChecked the logs so I'm up to speed on downloads being down - sstate is also down so mirrors can't be found11:37
escalionIn the mean time is there any way I can provide an override URL to download the package? (My first time with yocto, fresh import from buildroot world)11:38
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cengiz_iohello there! I'm fairly experienced with yocto but AGL is driving me nuts. it has a nice layout/packagegroup/template structure but I can't find a way to customize my fully supported board. ex: change devicetree, change ram size, etc. my machine is a variant one of the default supported ones: imx6qdlsabreauto. can someone help?11:59
cengiz_ioshould I just include meta-agl/templates/machine/imx6qdlsabreauto/50_local.conf.inc in a new template and modify it?12:00
cengiz_iois every customization done in just local.conf??12:00
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escalioncengiz_io: my understanding is that you create another layer on top of the default layer that modifies the configuration with bbappend12:03
cengiz_ioescalion that's the way we always do with Yocto but I'm not sure if that will work here.12:04
cengiz_ioso little documentation12:04
qschulzescalion: PREMIRRORS? otherwise modify the recipes using downloads.yoctoproject.org to take tarballs from the git repo (e.g. for opkg: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/opkg/snapshot/opkg-0.4.2.tar.gz)12:04
escalioncengiz_io: I've reverted to the bitbake and openembedded documentation as it is the same build system12:04
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escalionqschulz: thank you. to modify the recipe, do I need to create a new layer? I don't want to clone a recipe to modify it for obvious reasons12:06
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cengiz_ioescalion there's not even an imx related dts in meta-agl related repositories.. I'm flabbergasted. where is it?!?112:14
escalioncengiz_io: are you using u-boot? If so is it using the u-boot dts?12:15
cengiz_iou-boot has separate dts?12:15
cengiz_ioisn't it built with kernel?12:16
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cengiz_ioescalion I got it know. it pulls the devicetree from mainline kernel... that's why it doesn't exist in layers..12:18
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escalioncengiz_io: depending on config, you can load a dts through u-boot or from the kernel, or from an unrelated file into a partition12:21
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* RP notes the autobuilders are also not working :(12:56
JPEWRP: Looks like I should apply my pseudo change as a patch in the pseudo recipe?12:57
LetoThe2ndhalstead: /me pokes, just in case.12:58
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zeddiiI spent 3 hours getting strace to build against the v5.8 uapi headers. That's my contributing to the things going wrong.13:03
zeddiiI almost just rm'd the recipe and put in place something that echo'd "use perf"13:03
RPJPEW: its on the branch in pseudo so we can test a srcrev bump13:04
RPzeddii: sounds like such "fun" :(13:04
zeddiiwho knew that strace was so "strange" to build. the fact that we don't build it out of their git repo made it harder, you can't just backport patches because there are parts they only generate on release.13:05
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RPzeddii: I've kind of wanted git recipes for some things for this reason, its just the maintenance issue of maintaining them :/14:21
zeddiiI almost went with the git dev class extension for it, but that's no good for release, so I sorted it out by running a bootstrap once, and then we can patch in the new file until they release an strace 5.8 .. but getting to the point of understanding where that magic file came from .. took the time :D14:22
zeddiithere were a few: "grep" <nothing>, "WTF" moments.14:23
zeddiibut I've now built core-image-minimal for two arches and the 5.8 headers, so I'm approaching minimum sanity and will try musl on my other builder.14:24
zeddiibefore I even start inflicting anything on the AB.14:24
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RPzeddii: I'm sure the AB will find fun corner cases14:28
zeddiiI'll run some kernel dev and full AB runs before I ever send it to the list. now that I have the ability to do so.14:29
LetoThe2ndzeddii: https://twitter.com/TheYoctoJester/status/129065596673271398414:29
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* zeddii likes the tweet.14:29
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LetoThe2ndout of context quotes are the best quotes, i think we can all agree on that!14:30
zeddiiback at Wind River, we'd topic them on the IRC channels all the time :D14:30
zeddiialas, no irc at the new dayjob14:31
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LetoThe2nddayjob no good, then.14:32
rcrudohow can I removed ahavi from my image? I see it's added here: https://github.com/openembedded/meta-openembedded/blob/thud/meta-oe/recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-basic.bb#L3414:32
rcrudois it possible to remove packages using append files?14:32
zeddiiI'd suggest you want your own image and packagelist then. but everything is just a variable so you could _remove it.14:33
LetoThe2ndRP: just not use that packagegroup? i see little use for it anyways.14:34
LetoThe2nderm, rcrudo ^^^^14:34
LetoThe2ndrcrudo: plus what zeddii said :) https://twitter.com/TheYoctoJester/status/129061759297412300814:34
* LetoThe2nd is having a very tweety day.14:35
rcrudozeddii: by _remove you mean overwrite the variable in the append file or create a varible with _remove suffix?14:38
zeddiiyep. that's one way at least. But as LetoThe2nd pointed to as well, it is usually better to build up your list versus trying to tear things out of an existing one.14:39
rcrudoLetoThe2nd: I don't how it was added in the first place. through inherit core-image, perhaps?14:40
LetoThe2ndrcrudo: read link to find out :)14:41
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qschulzLetoThe2nd: am i famous yet?14:51
LetoThe2ndfamous? sure. rich? don't know, probably not :P14:52
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tlwoernerYPTM: tlwoerner is on14:54
LetoThe2ndtlwoerner: am i too stupid to find the link now?14:57
RPJust for reference, Michael is aware of the infrastructure issues and is looking into the problem14:57
JPEWYPTM: Joshua Watt here14:57
LetoThe2ndYPTM: josef is on14:58
qschulzLetoThe2nd: and it's just now I see that I've been mistyping your name and you didn't tell me /o\15:00
LetoThe2ndqschulz: heh thats ok15:00
smurrayYPTM: Scott Murray is on15:00
armpitYPTM: armin is on15:01
tlwoernerLetoThe2nd: even trolls need to stay up-to-date!15:01
LetoThe2ndtlwoerner: exactly!15:01
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* Crofton|cloud curses, the yocto download server problem blew up my jenkins run!15:22
* Crofton|cloud rages!15:22
armpityou should build in fail-over15:22
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tlwoernerRoss's dog doesn't like the AB status either, apparently (lol)15:23
Crofton|cloudhow code that works?15:23
tlwoernerrburton: (who comes every day at the same time....) lol15:24
Crofton|cloudI lik it when we get emails from fortune 500 companies doing OE jenkins builds15:24
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tlwoernerCrofton|cloud: yea, those are nice (not)15:25
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mischiefi seem to have a problem with BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE getting clobbered in the middle of a build and my environment variables aren't being passed to bitbake's fetcher any more. anyone experienced that? i'm on zeus.16:34
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rewittmischief: If you run "bitbake -e -c fetch recipename" does BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE look correct?16:46
mischiefit looked correct for half of the run, and then it didnt16:47
mischiefi need an env var for AWS auth to work for the S3 fetcher16:47
mischiefi put 'env|grep AWS' in FETCHCMD_s3 and after a while it just wasn't there16:48
mischief'env|grep AWS' was also printing BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE until it no longer had my env var in it16:49
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rewittso you're doing something like FETCHCMD_s3 = "${SOME_ENV_IN_WHITELIST} s3command ..."?16:55
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mischiefrewitt: the aws cli implicitly reads an env variable - i do not specify it inside FETCHCMD_s3, but i have to add it to BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE to pass it through bitbake.16:59
mischiefi'm running bitbake in a container via ecs - https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonECS/latest/developerguide/task-iam-roles.html17:00
mischiefit is required that i have the variable AWS_CONTAINER_CREDENTIALS_RELATIVE_URI present for the aws cli so that proper authentication can be done for s3 access17:01
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mischieffor now i cheated by writing the value of AWS_CONTAINER_CREDENTIALS_RELATIVE_URI to a file, and i source it inside FETCHCMD_s3. but i think this is a bug in bitbake and i shouldn't need this workaround.17:02
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rewittmischief: it's possible that is the case. I'm wondering if it's because the variable is in the datastore, but never exported to the environment.17:14
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mischiefrewitt: do i need an explicit 'export ...' inside a bitbake conf file?17:15
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mischiefthat's a bit confusing, since really i think anything plumbed through BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE should be transparently passed through bitbake17:16
rewittYou may, I'm trying an experiment out. Sorry, I'm not an expert on this code, just trying to help since I think I remembered you asking yesterday as well.17:17
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rewittmischief: I think I got it to work, but it is definitely not how I would expect it to work either. If I "export FOOBAR=stuff; bitbake somerecipe" then foobar is in the environment of any of the tasks. I tested this by overriding do_compile and running "env".17:46
rewittmischief: No I'm wrong. I was going to say doing the export in local.conf causes it to show up in the environment, however that doesn't even required BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE. I agree with you. It seems like a bug or needs to be documented better.17:49
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mischiefi do not know the value of my env var beforehand; the ecs agent poplates it for me in the container environment, so i need to pass it through17:56
mischiefi guess to be fair the BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE docuentation does say 'Specifies an additional set of variables to allow through (whitelist) from the external environment into BitBake's datastore.' - its explicit that it is in the datastore17:57
mischiefi was just not aware that this does *not* also include exporting the variable into subprocesses17:57
mischiefand it was some kind of accident that it worked some of the time17:58
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jadelclemensHey all, is this the appropriate venue for a Bitbake question? I couldn't find a specific IRC for that.18:00
JPEWmischief: IIRC if you mark a variable as "export" it gets put in all task taskhashes (unless excluded), so if you made BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE do that automatically, it would result in rebuilding everything anytime one changed18:00
mischiefJPEW: okay. if i add my variable to BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE, and write an export statement for it, how do i exclude it from task hashes?18:02
jadelclemensI'm reading up on Bitbake and I'm a little confused as to the use of the `rdeptask` task flag. If a runtime dependency needs to be deployed before another recipe can begin execution, what is the use of having a task depend on another in this way? Since it's guaranteed that the dependency recipe will be finished before your recipe begins.18:03
JPEWmischief: Add the variable to BB_HASHBASE_WHITELIST18:05
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JPEWjadelclemens: it's not used commonly, but for e.g. insane.bbclass uses it to make sure the package data for all RDEPENDS is present before running the QA tests (which is the example in the manual)18:11
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mischiefJPEW: if i write 'export FOO', but foo is never explicitly referenced anywhere, do i still need to add it to BB_HASHBASE_WHITELIST? is the value of FOO from the external environment hashed into all tasks?18:11
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JPEWjadelclemens: Or for example, a package ensures that all of its RDEPENDS have written out their package files with: classes/package_rpm.bbclass: do_build[recrdeptask] += "do_package_write_rpm"18:12
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JPEWmischief: I believe so. export is tricky because bitbake can't figure out if its actually used in a task or not (since it's just part of the env, the build program could do *anything* with it), so it assumes its a dependency of every task18:14
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JPEWmischief: You have to be careful with them, especially if they are "global" (apply to all recipes like local.conf or bitbake.conf).... at least that's my understanding.18:16
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mischiefJPEW: okay, understood. the variable in my case is needed by the aws cli in the s3 fetcher, so its use is indeed hidden from bitbake.18:17
JPEWmischief: Right, it sounds like its some sort of credentials, which you want to be accessible (e.g. tasks can use it), but not be factored into the task hashes (e.g. changing credentials should not cause a rebuild)18:19
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mischiefJPEW: as a followup, does BBMULTICONFIG change task hashes?18:45
mischiefe.g. setting it, and then building mc:<config>:target18:45
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JPEWmischief: AFAIK, BBMUTLICONFIG doesn't have anything special so it follows the normal rules for variables19:04
JPEWmischief: meaning, it's only included in task hashes if it is referenced by another variable or task that is include in the hash19:05
JPEWmischief: At least, for the BBMULTICONFIG variable itself. Obviously pulling in the other config file could change all sorts of things :)19:07
JPEWAnd I can't think of any reason you would need to reference BBMULTICONFIG in another variable or task19:08
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hirnschlagHello, I have a potentially silly question, but I have been too dense to google it19:26
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hirnschlagin my image recipe is there a place where I can put files that I want to show up in /etc/ later?19:26
hirnschlagfor example, I have added the avahi-daemon recipe to my image recipe, but now I want to configure AVAHI as well19:27
hirnschlagthank you for any tips19:27
mischiefhirnschlag: make a recipe to install files and include that new recipe in your image19:28
mischiefif you need to modify a recipe's files, you can make a bbappend in your own layer19:28
hirnschlagthank you! Is that the only/standard way of doing that?19:29
mischiefstandard - yes. you can write shell functions which fiddle with your image afterwards, but afaik it is usually reserved for instances where recipes cannot do what you want19:30
hirnschlagI'll give that a shot19:31
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nolessis there any news or info why downloads.yoctoproject.org is unreachable? is it scheduled maintenance?19:36
erbonoless: I saw something earlier today about it being some NAS that wasn't behaving ok19:40
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PaowZ_hello there ! I've got questions about EXTRA_OECMAKE variable.. it's like this var is never took into account from my recipe.. I noticed the existence of EXTRA_OECMAKE_BUILD in run.compile* but no insight from mega-manual..19:51
PaowZ_it looks to regard Ninja..  do you have any clue, regarding EXTRA_OECMAKE var ?19:51
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david-ehi, I'm getting "realpath: command not found" while trying to build a backported kernel module: the command is "sfile="$(realpath --relative-to $kroot "$(readlink -f "$0")")""20:00
david-ecoreutils_8.30.bb lists "realpath" in "bindir_progs". but I don't know much about yocto20:05
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RPdavid-e: are you building this on target or in a recipe?20:24
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david-eRP in a recipe; I guess I found a way to fix it adding realpath to HOSTTOOLS in meta/conf/bitbake.conf20:39
mischiefdoes your kernel module recipe depend on coreutils-native?20:41
david-ethe bbappend file I'm using does not depend on it20:43
RPdavid-e: I'm kind of surprised that isn't in HOSTTOOLS already but I guess we mustn't use it much20:45
RPadding a DEPENDS on coreutils-native would likely fix it, as would adding it to HOSTTOOLS at the local/distro level20:45
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david-emischief:  I've added DEPENDS += "coreutils-native" , so thank you for the tip20:54
david-eand RP thank you too20:55
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WeZzyIs it just me or is downloads.yoctoproject.org down? (and am I the one milionth person to ask this?)21:30
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zeddiiand yes.21:35
RPWeZzy: we know, its being worked on but there are some issues needing in person access at the datacentre21:35
WeZzyOk, good luck fixing the issues and thanks for looking into it21:37
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