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smurray | Hadi: the rationale for why that's done is here: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#run-time-shared-libraries | 00:22 |
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moto-timo | zeddii: the moment I tried to build cri-o I thought it asked for libselinux... I can revisit it | 00:45 |
moto-timo | RobertBerger: I don't know about compatibility, but k3s is probably a better fit for on target? I don't have enough experience doing what I am trying to do with it yet. | 00:46 |
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moto-timo | zeddii: I'll go back and review OverC again | 00:52 |
zeddii | moto-timo: so you do, or don't want selinux as a cri-o depends ? We have it in there, but as a "conditional" meta-selinux dependency. | 00:54 |
zeddii | it's odd though. It somehow snuck into the full depends, but yes, it is supposed to be conditional .. not in the sense of cri-o, but in the sense of meta-virt as a whole | 00:54 |
zeddii | I can't buid it at the moment, due to a selinux build issue though | 00:55 |
zeddii | /opt/bruce/poky/build/tmp/work/core2-64-poky-linux/libsepol/2.9-r0/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/bin/x86_64-poky-linux/../../libexec/x86_64-poky-linux/gcc/x86_64-poky-linux/10.2.0/ld: ../cil/src/cil_verify.lo:/usr/src/debug/libsepol/2.9-r0/libsepol-2.9/src/../cil/src/cil_mem.h:39: multiple definition of `cil_mem_error_handler'; ../cil/src/cil.lo:/usr/src/debug/libsepol/2.9-r0/libsepol-2.9/src/../cil/src/cil_ | 00:55 |
zeddii | mem.h:39: first defined here | 00:55 |
zeddii | | collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status | 00:55 |
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moto-timo | zeddii: personally, I don't currently want SELinux | 01:15 |
moto-timo | zeddii: but that might change the moment I get a secure system request | 01:16 |
moto-timo | zeddii: and also the moment I'm back on my centos8 or fedora-32 builders | 01:17 |
* moto-timo pretends to go to bed and be on Dublin-ish time | 01:17 | |
moto-timo | zeddii: I wonder if we can do the selinux depends in dynamic-layers bbappend? | 01:19 |
zeddii | I need to investigate if it really is required, I'll have a look at the cri-o code and see what's using it. | 01:19 |
zeddii | my stance was that all of meta-virt couldn't depend on meta-selinux, just for cri-o, and we made some anonymous python for it, but I don't recall if we can packageconfig it out of existence as a dependency. | 01:20 |
zeddii | if so, it can be a package config and avoid yanking it in. | 01:20 |
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OutBackDingo | moto-timo: i kinda feel k8s is a much better fit for overc then k3s ..... IMHO | 03:45 |
OutBackDingo | even KubeEdge could be a better fit | 03:45 |
OutBackDingo | k3s does some things in a funky way that makes it non-compat with various k8s things that just work on k8s | 03:46 |
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RobertBerger | @moto-timo, OutBackDingo: indeed https://docs.kubeedge.io/en/latest/components/kubeedge.html might be a better fit if you want k8s compatibility for you edge devices. As far as I understand you could have even smaller devices communicating to kubeedge via mqtt. | 05:25 |
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OutBackDingo | RobertBerger: yeah now if we can get it in meta-virtualization :) | 05:46 |
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OutBackDingo | WIP getting it running on overc, then look at making recipes for it | 05:47 |
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RobertBerger | @OutBackDingo: The doc does not say much about how to deploy it: https://docs.kubeedge.io/en/latest/setup/index.html | 06:32 |
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RobertBerger | @OutBackDingo: We only need some container runtime for it on the edge device? https://docs.kubeedge.io/en/latest/getting-started.html | 06:34 |
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LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 07:38 |
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mckoan | good morning Dublin! | 07:39 |
LetoThe2nd | i basically feel like this: https://youtu.be/BIikfdNIHQE | 07:42 |
mckoan | LetoThe2nd: LOL | 07:46 |
* mckoan is trying to figure out how all this 'virtual' stuff works | 07:47 | |
LetoThe2nd | mckoan: hehe. thats easy. it just doesn't work at all. | 07:47 |
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mckoan | LetoThe2nd: what is the link to the conference? | 07:58 |
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LetoThe2nd | mckoan: schedule? | 07:59 |
LetoThe2nd | https://events.linuxfoundation.org/embedded-linux-conference-europe/program/schedule/ | 07:59 |
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mckoan | LetoThe2nd: I'm in my schedule but I don't see any link to the conference | 08:05 |
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LetoThe2nd | mckoan: just click the ogo? https://events.linuxfoundation.org/embedded-linux-conference-europe/ | 08:15 |
LetoThe2nd | paulbarker: so hopefully that was helpful and i did not ah... erm.... too much? | 08:19 |
paulbarker | LetoThe2nd: I thought that was a good way to start the conference day | 08:20 |
mckoan | LetoThe2nd: looks like LF is going to send the actual link later by email | 08:21 |
LetoThe2nd | paulbarker: :) | 08:21 |
LetoThe2nd | mckoan: ah you mean the conference attendee link? yeah that should come in at 10:00 AM GMT, AFAIK | 08:21 |
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shoragan | is there going to be a general ELC-E via slack again? | 08:30 |
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LetoThe2nd | shoragan: afaik the LF is convinved their conference system is awesome enough this time so they don't need it. | 08:35 |
paulbarker | All the cool kids are already on irc | 08:36 |
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chris_ber | I am using two different machines (qemu, imx8mmevk). For the machine imx8mmevk i added a bbapend to include the cp210x driver to the kernel (sources/meta-abc/recipes-kernel/cp210x/linux-imx_%.bbappend) which also contains 'COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "^imx8mmevk$"'. But now i can't build qemu: 'ERROR: No recipes available for: /somedir/sources/meta-abc/recipes-kernel/cp210x/linux-imx_%.bbappend' | 09:22 |
chris_ber | any ideas? | 09:22 |
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mckoan | chris_ber: you should have two different BSP layers for two different architectures (meta-abcqemu, meta-abcimx8) | 09:25 |
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LetoThe2nd | mckoan: hum, nope. a bsp layer should have no effect if included, but building for another machine. | 09:31 |
LetoThe2nd | chris_ber: it rather sounds like that meta-abc layer has a dependency on that imx bsp layer, that breaks when building for qemu? | 09:32 |
chris_ber | ok, thx. I create now 2 different additonal sources/layers that will be added to bblayers.conf depending og the machine | 09:35 |
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LetoThe2nd | ? | 09:38 |
LetoThe2nd | well thats one option. the other would be using BBFILES_DYNAMIC (or similarly named, can't usually remember) in meta-abc. and the completely simple approch would be to just have the imx layer included even if you're building for qemu. if it is properly maintained, it should have no effect then. | 09:39 |
chris_ber | ahh ok | 09:39 |
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dreyna | shoragan LetoThe2nd: Yes there is a Slack channel for YP at ELCE: https://join.slack.com/t/theyoctoproject/shared_invite/zt-i5tjtidz-EgHG4cq4c7fLn_0PXT3~IQ | 09:55 |
dreyna | Channel is #elce | 09:56 |
LetoThe2nd | dreyna: for YP, sure. but AIUI, shoragan asked for a general, LF channel/slack | 09:56 |
dreyna | Ah no. As you stated the LF is saving money with their platform's narrow chat channel | 09:57 |
shoragan | dreyna, during ELC-NA, it was a really useful replacement for the hallway track | 09:58 |
* LetoThe2nd will try it out shortly! | 09:58 | |
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LetoThe2nd | i can keep the booth in a secondary tab, thats ok | 10:19 |
linums | Hi | 10:20 |
linums | I ran menuconfig, ehich produced the config file as expected | 10:20 |
linums | But the diffconfig does not produce the fragment.cfg as it should, what can be the issue here? | 10:21 |
rburton | glib datetime tests are always good at exposing differences between distributions | 10:24 |
rburton | the actual output would be nice in the regression report | 10:24 |
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RobertBerger | Is there someone around here who know more about bazel/tensorflow than me? https://pastebin.com/rzSSDAYp | 11:11 |
RobertBerger | I already thought I routed it to my own tensorflow git repo where I fixed it, but it's ignored https://pastebin.com/P8x5AvLC | 11:14 |
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ilkappe | Hello guys ! I need a tip ! I have three ARM64 platforms. I thought to create one yocto project to target the three different platforms, since they will differs more ore less only for devicetree and rootfs apps. In your opinion which is the better way to achieve that ? | 13:08 |
ilkappe | As far as I know I may define three different machine names, that are extension of a common machine (eg: zynqmp) and then use multiconfig to select the build of a specific target | 13:10 |
rburton | ilkappe: just making sure that you know of meta-arm :) | 13:11 |
ilkappe | rburton, thanks | 13:11 |
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ilkappe | I'll look for it now | 13:11 |
d32 | Hi, while trying to use devtool (devtool modify virtual/kernel) I'm facing an error:ERROR: Execution of '/home/user/project/build/tmp/work/imx7d_pico-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-fslc/5.4.71+gitAUTOINC+d4f3dcb65f-r0/devtooltmp-pl7y2yrg/temp/run.do_preconfigure.18190' failed with exit code | 13:13 |
d32 | 2:/home/user/project/build/tmp/work/imx7d_pico-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-fslc/5.4.71+gitAUTOINC+d4f3dcb65f-r0/devtooltmp-pl7y2yrg/temp/run.do_preconfigure.18190: 120: /home/user/project/build/tmp/work/imx7d_pico-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-fslc/5.4.71+gitAUTOINC+d4f3dcb65f-r0/devtooltmp-pl7y2yrg/temp/run.do_preconfigure.18190: cannot open | 13:13 |
d32 | /home/user/project/build/tmp/work/imx7d_pico-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-fslc/5.4.71+gitAUTOINC+d4f3dcb65f-r0/devtooltmp-pl7y2yrg/workdir/defconfig: No such fileWARNING: exit code 2 from a shell command.Would one of you be so kind to give me some pointers where to start resolving this? I'm on poky 3.1.3. | 13:13 |
ilkappe | hey rburton, I'm looking at meta-arm but it seems to me that it provides the recipes to build for an arm platform (which of course it is my case) | 13:16 |
ilkappe | the things, I already have the set of recipes to build the distro for the three platforms | 13:17 |
ilkappe | the thing is* | 13:17 |
ilkappe | but I don't want to have three separate projects | 13:17 |
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ilkappe | ideally I want to build the three distros for the three platforms simply specify somewhere in someway which are the difference between the three of them and then launching bitbake | 13:19 |
ilkappe | but I don't know both if it is possible and how to do it | 13:19 |
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xmp | Hi all! | 13:27 |
xmp | I would have a question about a weird build issue for my recipe, but I am not quite sure if I am right in here? | 13:27 |
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xmp | Ok, so I'll just describe my issue. In case I am wrong here, please just tell me where to go. | 13:31 |
xmp | So I got an error during populating a package to my SDK saying it cannot find a package e.g. "nativesdk-my-app". However, "my-app" builds just fine and so does the "nativesdk-my-app" target as standalone. The error arises during the populate_sdk task saying "Unable to find a match". The my-app recipe is pretty simple and los similar to all my other | 13:34 |
xmp | recipes which build also fine. I don't know where to start searching. | 13:34 |
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moto-timo | FWIW: elago SD card USB adapter worked immediately on my Debian-10 machine vs uni reader which only worked on my Centos-8 machine | 13:59 |
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RobertBerger | @ilkappe: we have 3 things in | 14:02 |
RobertBerger | @ilkappe yocto/oe which are orthogonal (independent of each other) | 14:02 |
RobertBerger | @ilkappe: MACHINE, DISTRO, IMAGE | 14:02 |
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RobertBerger | @ilkappe: "they will differs more ore less only for devicetree and rootfs apps" | 14:03 |
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RobertBerger | @ilkappe: rootfs apps: is IMAGE in my imagination | 14:04 |
clementp[m] | Hi, I have two boards very similar except the bootloader and the device-tree are different. Is it possible that yocto build only 1 Rootfs+Kernel and 2 bootloaders ? | 14:05 |
RobertBerger | @ilkappe: you could build all device tree trees together and then install only one which is appropriate for the board | 14:05 |
RobertBerger | @clementp[m]: I have one "layer collection" with all device trees and rootfs and a different layer collection for different bootloaders - independent | 14:06 |
RobertBerger | @clementp[m]: actually I split the BSP in on layer for kernel/dtb and another layer for bootloader | 14:07 |
clementp[m] | RobertBerger: is it closed source ? | 14:07 |
RobertBerger | clementp[m]: of course NOT | 14:08 |
clementp[m] | RobertBerger: could you point me the git repo just to check how you do it | 14:09 |
RobertBerger | kernel: https://gitlab.com/meta-layers/meta-multi-v7-ml-bsp | 14:09 |
RobertBerger | bootloader variation 1: https://gitlab.com/meta-layers/meta-u-boot-wic-bsp | 14:09 |
RobertBerger | bootloader variation 2: https://gitlab.com/meta-layers/meta-u-boot-mender-bsp | 14:10 |
RobertBerger | (this needs some updating) | 14:10 |
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clementp[m] | RobertBerger: awesome, thanks ! | 14:11 |
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RobertBerger | the special trick here is, that it's a multi-v7 (multi arch) kernel which runs on multiple boards | 14:13 |
RobertBerger | Feel free to ping me | 14:13 |
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clementp[m] | RobertBerger: all my boards use the exactly same SoM, just the carrier board is different, so the device-tree | 14:14 |
RobertBerger | So it's easy. | 14:14 |
RobertBerger | You can build in one go different device trees and install the appropriate one. | 14:15 |
RobertBerger | Just add to your machine config as many device trees as you like ;) | 14:15 |
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smurray | clementp[m]: you can add the extras to KERNEL_DEVICETREE, iirc | 14:21 |
smurray | clementp[m]: generally done in the machine conf file | 14:21 |
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moto-timo | interesting that suse is buying rancher | 14:23 |
moto-timo | https://www.suse.com/c/news/suse-acquires-rancher/ | 14:23 |
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clementp[m] | RobertBerger: smurray No because the default env of the bootloader need to be updated. fdt_file=boarda.dtb or ftd_file=boardb.dtb | 14:30 |
smurray | clementp[m]: sure, but that's a different problem than getting the second dtb built | 14:30 |
moto-timo | also, multiconfig can help with these different configurations... | 14:30 |
clementp[m] | haaa you can do u-boot multiconfig ? | 14:31 |
clementp[m] | didn't know about that | 14:31 |
moto-timo | multiconfig is the sense of YP | 14:31 |
smurray | moto-timo: not required for this, actually | 14:31 |
smurray | clementp[m]: you can build more than one u-boot, UBOOT_MACHINE allows for that | 14:32 |
smurray | clementp[m]: you can then have 2 different configs with the environments set differently | 14:33 |
moto-timo | smurray: I'm not saying required... but I'm saying it might make sane build environment | 14:33 |
smurray | clementp[m]: the other approach is to build one u-boot, but use scripting to determine which type of board it is | 14:33 |
moto-timo | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#building-images-for-multiple-targets-using-multiple-configurations | 14:33 |
smurray | moto-timo: for just getting a second u-boot built, it's way overkill imo | 14:34 |
moto-timo | anyway, I haven't touched dtb and uboot in a couple years so I should be silent | 14:34 |
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RobertBerger | @clementp[m]: bootloader and device tree are board specific, the rest does not need to be. | 14:41 |
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smurray | clementp[m]: actually, let me qualify that, I was thinking the logic around UBOOT_MACHINE/UBOOT_CONFIG may allow building more than one, but I might be wrong | 14:44 |
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tlwoerner | smurray: yes that's true. some platforms have multiple _defconfigs (e.g. one for emmc booting and one for sdcard booting) | 14:46 |
* moto-timo forces reboot with fat fingers on USB front port... sigh | 14:46 | |
smurray | tlwoerner: cool, good to know my pre-coffee brain isn't completely off ;) | 14:46 |
moto-timo | smurray: I'm on 3rd espresso. how can you have not had coffee? | 14:47 |
moto-timo | smurray: or was that a time-machine response ;) | 14:47 |
smurray | moto-timo: heh, I try to keep to a couple of cups a day and just haven't gotten to the kitchen yet to make the first | 14:48 |
smurray | moto-timo: too many tabs to keep track of | 14:48 |
moto-timo | smurray: I just "solved" that problem (facepalm) | 14:48 |
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moto-timo | interesting.. trivy | 14:54 |
moto-timo | https://github.com/aquasecurity/trivy | 14:55 |
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ThomasD13 | moto-timo, i feel your pain ;) | 14:58 |
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armpit | is anyone on yocto slack? | 15:01 |
armpit | there appears to be several yocto slack channels | 15:01 |
moto-timo | armpit: we're mostly in the watercooler changnel... same slack at ELC | 15:01 |
* moto-timo still can't type | 15:02 | |
kergoth | there's a yocto slack? | 15:02 |
armpit | the booth redirects to slack and closes the event one | 15:02 |
* kergoth yawns | 15:02 | |
kergoth | ah, elc | 15:02 |
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moto-timo | kergoth: sadly pay to play | 15:04 |
moto-timo | kergoth: although much cheaper than normal | 15:04 |
kergoth | ha | 15:04 |
* armpit stating to dislike these virtual events | 15:04 | |
moto-timo | The troll dinner last night was absolutely terrible | 15:04 |
kergoth | half the point of a conference is the mingling and networking, watching a bunch of videos isn't quite the same thing | 15:04 |
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moto-timo | kergoth: more than half... and the dinners and hallway track and F2F OED{A,E}M | 15:06 |
* kergoth nods | 15:06 | |
moto-timo | kergoth: and yet you and I have never managed to be in the same physical time and space | 15:07 |
carlsb3rg | how would I go about running chmod u+rwx /home/someuser after /home/someuser has been created? | 15:07 |
kergoth | yeah, that's my fault, for a couple years i avoided travel when my son was super young, then just kept missing the registration deadlines :) | 15:07 |
moto-timo | kergoth: I also had several years without sufficient income to fund travel to EU | 15:08 |
carlsb3rg | I tried to add a task after useradd_base.bbclass' perform_useradd but /home/someuser isn't created yet | 15:08 |
tlwoerner | kergoth: i'd say it's more like 100% of a conference is the mingling etc | 15:09 |
tlwoerner | if we ever get back to in-person conferences we should just skip all the "talks/papers" nonsense and just stick to mingling (lol) | 15:10 |
kergoth | hah. just a big gym or set of hallways with people b/s'ing for a few days. i'm on board | 15:10 |
* moto-timo still can't explain why I never attended FOSSDEM | 15:11 | |
tlwoerner | lol | 15:11 |
tlwoerner | moto-timo: because you keep spelling it incorrectly? | 15:12 |
tlwoerner | (lol) | 15:12 |
LetoThe2nd | hehehe | 15:13 |
moto-timo | tlwoerner: step one... ? | 15:13 |
moto-timo | lol | 15:14 |
moto-timo | my grammar and spelling has completely atrophied because of social media... | 15:14 |
moto-timo | and vocabulary | 15:14 |
tlwoerner | and getting up at 4am with creme stout handy? | 15:15 |
moto-timo | tlwoerner: until it is evening somewhere, I'll stick to espresso with home roasted beans | 15:16 |
kergoth | you roast yourself? nice. i keep meaning to try that. thankfully we have a local roaster / coffee shop in walking distance here | 15:17 |
moto-timo | kergoth: Dave J Cobbley the younger | 15:17 |
moto-timo | kergoth: my partner in home brew crimes | 15:17 |
moto-timo | kergoth: but green coffee beans are quite reasonably priced | 15:18 |
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sakoman | moto-timo: be careful, I started with home roasting about 15 years ago and ended up growing coffee in Hawaii | 15:20 |
kergoth | haha | 15:21 |
moto-timo | sakoman: also involved MOVING to and BUYING property in Hawaii | 15:21 |
kergoth | is that supposed to be a warning or enticement? | 15:21 |
moto-timo | sakoman: not a trivial amount of "be careful" | 15:21 |
moto-timo | sakoman: although I have a finca in Costa Rica that COULD be growing coffee again... | 15:21 |
sakoman | kergoth: take it whichever way you like ;-) | 15:21 |
moto-timo | travel when? yeah... not this year | 15:22 |
kergoth | I've wanted to move to hawaii ever since I got married there as a destination wedding, but sadly our family would never be able to afford to visit :) | 15:22 |
sakoman | moto-timo: I marvel at how cheap green coffee is | 15:23 |
sakoman | It is a lot of work! | 15:24 |
tlwoerner | kergoth: and that's a problem… how? (lol) | 15:24 |
moto-timo | sakoman: after a tour of the co-operative that processed the beans from our finca (when it was still growing beans)... I was SHOCKED | 15:25 |
kergoth | tlwoerner: haha | 15:25 |
moto-timo | also macadamia nuts are incredibly hard to process | 15:25 |
moto-timo | by the time you crack the shell, you have made macadamia nut butter | 15:25 |
sakoman | moto-timo: green coffee tease: https://photos.app.goo.gl/s2qWp1efY2aLHinj8 | 15:27 |
tlwoerner | kergoth: one of the many benefits of having our farm is the ability to say "sorry, we can't visit for <event>, somebody's got to feed the horses!" (lol) | 15:27 |
moto-timo | little known fact: piles of macadamia branches will attrack rats which will attract fer-de-lance, the most poisonous snake in central amaerica | 15:27 |
kergoth | hah, can't argue with that excuse | 15:27 |
moto-timo | lol @ tlwoerner | 15:27 |
sakoman | tlwoerner: works both ways too - when they visit hand them a pitchfork and have them help clean the stalls :-) | 15:28 |
moto-timo | sakoman: it's amazing how few revisits from he annoying relatives you get with that simple technique | 15:28 |
moto-timo | ^the | 15:29 |
sakoman | moto-timo: re: mac nuts, like everything you need the right tool to do the job | 15:29 |
moto-timo | sakoman: indeed... we had very old non-producing trees and the market in CR had already dried up by then... | 15:29 |
sakoman | I let the local pros do the work and just but shelled mac nuts | 15:29 |
tlwoerner | sakoman: yep! lol. i never turn down extra hands for mucking or processing wood | 15:29 |
moto-timo | sakoman: and the harvest of coffee pretty much was a wash with paying our caretaker (plus the fertilizers and so on) | 15:30 |
moto-timo | sakoman: not a loss, but not a retirement plan by a long shot | 15:30 |
tlwoerner | had a "city friend" come help pile wood once. at one point he says "by the way, what do you do with the manure?" i said "what do you think you're standing on?!" | 15:30 |
sakoman | :-) | 15:31 |
* moto-timo points them at the manure spreader they are about to drive around the pasture before lunch | 15:31 | |
moto-timo | very important that it be BEFORE lunch | 15:32 |
sakoman | moto-timo: I can't even imagine what I would have to charge if I wanted to sell my coffee and make a living at it | 15:32 |
* tlwoerner doesn't share the tractor duties, too much fun (lol) | 15:32 | |
moto-timo | sakoman: makes that consulting fee look cheap ;) | 15:32 |
moto-timo | smart @ tlwoerner | 15:32 |
sakoman | But every time I have a cup I'm happy to do the work, it's worth it | 15:33 |
RP | sakoman: CVE stats look better this week, thanks! | 15:33 |
sakoman | RP: yes, and master now looks correct too :-) | 15:34 |
sakoman | I'll keep spending one morning a week on CVE's till I get to diminishing returns | 15:35 |
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* moto-timo keeps meaning to attack a couple CVEs a week | 15:39 | |
tlwoerner | moto-timo: https://twitter.com/meghamohan/status/1319988640534155265/photo/1 | 15:41 |
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RP | sakoman: yes, I wonder what the issue was | 15:42 |
RP | sakoman: you managed about 50 a week so shouldn't be long, right? :) | 15:43 |
caiortp | Hi All, is is possible to register to yocto dev summit withtou ELCE /OSS registration? | 15:43 |
tlwoerner | dreyna: ndec: ^^ | 15:43 |
sakoman | RP: I changed the time of day that I run the report, moving it away from midnight | 15:43 |
paulbarker | caiortp: It should be possible yes | 15:44 |
ndec | caiortp: yes! | 15:44 |
sakoman | And I also now use separate sstate for master/dunfell | 15:44 |
RP | sakoman: right, so we don't know exactly what it was now! :) | 15:44 |
caiortp | @nde | 15:44 |
sakoman | Let's see if those two changes eliminate some of the strangeness we've seen from time to time | 15:44 |
ndec | caiortp: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/yocto-project-summit-europe/register/ | 15:45 |
caiortp | ndec, great thanks a lot! | 15:46 |
moto-timo | tlwoerner: guilty | 15:46 |
sakoman | RP: We may never know which of the two did the trick, but if things work going forward I'm ok with that :-) | 15:46 |
RobertBerger | @RP: BTW it looks like with master some pseudo/golang? permissions were fixed. Still testing, but so far it looks good. | 15:46 |
RP | sakoman: true, I just like to understand problems so I stand a better chance they don't recur! | 15:46 |
sakoman | I suspect data base update time, since when I reran the test later in the day last week master looked correct | 15:48 |
RobertBerger | #RP: I didn't even dare to mention those ;) But bitbake -c cleanall <some golang recipes> didn't work before. Needed to have sudoer permissions to remove build artifacts. | 15:48 |
caiortp | ndec my entry point was https://www.yoctoproject.org/yocto-projectr-summit-virtual-europe-2020/ and the link send to the the event page, tks for the link | 15:51 |
moto-timo | RP: nice shirt :) | 16:01 |
moto-timo | RP: I also like the red accept stripe on the walls | 16:02 |
moto-timo | ^accent | 16:04 |
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* tlwoerner is glad RP is "yocto compatible" :-D | 16:10 | |
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moto-timo | we should get "built by bitbake" shirts or something like that | 16:13 |
moto-timo | RP: nice to "see you" even if only on a video chat | 16:13 |
armpit | and take over that "We built this city" song too | 16:13 |
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* LetoThe2nd notes, that it was the barcelona shirt. 8yrs ago. | 16:16 | |
* moto-timo notes that was one of many conferences I wish I had attended and most remember me attending | 16:16 | |
moto-timo | nearly everybody thinks I was at Dublin | 16:16 |
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moto-timo | lol | 16:16 |
* RP hopes he's YP Compatible | 16:17 | |
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clementp[m] | smurray: looks like UBOOT_MACHINE allow only one machine | 16:21 |
tlwoerner | clementp[m]: yes, but in the source code there can sometimes be more than one to choose from, for a specific board/target | 16:22 |
clementp[m] | @RobertBerger I agree with you that the Kernel RootFS doesn't need to be board specific, but I don't know what the easiest way to build 2 bootloaders and 1 kernel. Maybe multiple layer is a bit overkill | 16:22 |
tlwoerner | clementp[m]: or you could write your own _defconfig and include it as a patch in SRC_URI then select it from UBOOT_MACHINE ;-) | 16:22 |
clementp[m] | tlwoerner: still I need to build 2 times Yocto, so this will generate 2 bootloaders and 2 Kernel/Rootfs | 16:24 |
clementp[m] | Either I use 2 layers, and I build 3 times Yocto, one time for each bootloader and one time for the Kernel/Rootfs like RobertBerger suggest | 16:25 |
clementp[m] | Ha ok tlwoerner got it | 16:28 |
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smurray | clementp[m]: do your boards have some way to tell which variant it is, like a gpio pin or pins? If so, then a little bit of scripting in u-boot could be used to pick which dtb file to use | 16:32 |
clementp[m] | smurray I thought about that but no I can't :( | 16:33 |
clementp[m] | Or I could write the information into the efuse and then read them again | 16:33 |
clementp[m] | But still not a good idea I think | 16:33 |
smurray | clementp[m]: so one option is multiconfig as moto-timo mentioned earlier, though I'd probably just do the extra u-boot build in the second multiconfig. | 16:37 |
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moto-timo | smurray: that's loosely what my half-baked suggestion was | 16:40 |
* moto-timo inserts magic >here< | 16:41 | |
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smurray | moto-timo: I actually have a potential usecase in AGL to build multiple u-boots for use with the same kernel + image, when I looked last week my initial glance suggested the u-boot config stuff would allow it, I'm a little bummed out if it'll take using multiconfig, esp since the deployed u-boot files all have the board names in them | 16:43 |
clementp[m] | UBOOT_CONFIG[xx] one for board_A and one for board_b | 16:43 |
clementp[m] | first time I call yocto to build board_A + rootfs/kernel | 16:44 |
clementp[m] | second time I call only to build Board_B u-boot | 16:44 |
moto-timo | and you should be able to make second build mcdepends on output of first build | 16:47 |
carlsb3rg | I'm trying to add a custom file in /etc/sudoers.d/ but get this message "file /etc/sudoers.d conflicts between attempted installs of custom-script-1.0-r0.i586 and sudo-1.8.31-r0.i586" - I realize what the problem is I guess, but unsure about the cure | 16:49 |
moto-timo | most of my multiconfig usage currently is building host + guest OSes for virtualization (and containers) | 16:49 |
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smurray | moto-timo: it's not clear to me if the second config needs a mcdepends if it's essentially the same except for the UBOOT_CONFIG | 16:52 |
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kergoth | carlsb3rg: you might need your FILES to list the files *under* sudoers.d, but not list sudoers.d itself? then only one package owns the directory | 16:54 |
moto-timo | smurray: yeah... I haven't really thought it through enough...sorry for bringing up vapor ware | 16:55 |
carlsb3rg | I only have FILES_${PN} += "${sysconfdir}/sudoers.d/sudo_the_user" not the actual sudoers.d directory | 16:55 |
moto-timo | smurray: I've been using it a lot over the past year though for many interesting solutions | 16:55 |
smurray | clementp[m]: so the meta-renesas BSP definitely builds more than one u-boot by listing them in UBOOT_CONFIG, I'm trying to work out if that's via some modification they've made to the u-boot recipe or if it should work in general | 16:57 |
smurray | clementp[m]: okay, I think I was correct in that you can do it, but wrong about the variable. You can specify more than one config in UBOOT_CONFIG, I see it in other BSPs | 17:01 |
smurray | clementp[m]: so you can define UBOOT_CONFIG[foo] and UBOOT_CONFIG[bar], and have UBOOT_CONFIG = "foo bar" to build both | 17:02 |
smurray | clementp[m]: I'd suggest trying that | 17:02 |
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carlsb3rg | oh...to add a file to /etc/sudoers.d/ you have to make sure that you create /etc/sudoers.d/ with the same permissions as the sudo package... | 17:19 |
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d32 | Hi everyone, I'm unsure if my question I've posted earlier today made it onto the chat. So trying not to sound impatient I just wanted to check if maybe one of you has picked it up and has a clue for an answer. Thanks :) | 17:38 |
rburton | khem: oooh scanview integration is neat (catching up on sessions I missed) | 17:38 |
zeddii | wth is a scanview | 17:40 |
khem | rburton: yeah its quite useful too :) thanks for watching session | 17:40 |
khem | we found few bugs in libcurl | 17:40 |
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khem | zeddii: scan-view is a static analyser that comes with clang for free :) | 17:43 |
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zeddii | ahah | 17:47 |
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rburton | khem: how tragic is a scanview over all of poky? | 17:53 |
khem | rburton: never run it on whole image | 17:53 |
rburton | that bad eh | 17:53 |
khem | selectively on important libs | 17:54 |
rburton | sounds like you're wimping out of fixing the warnings to me | 17:55 |
rburton | are you chicken? | 17:55 |
khem | :) | 18:02 |
manuel1985 | What's the relation between the <build-dir>/conf/local.conf and recipes, distro conf and machine conf files _from the technical POV_? It seems I can set any variable I can set just about ANYWHERE also in <build-dir>/conf/local.conf. Is <build-dir>/conf/local.conf prepended to everything else? | 18:03 |
moto-timo | rburton: public shaming FTW | 18:03 |
rburton | manuel1985: bitbake.conf will show you the parse order | 18:04 |
rburton | everything global is parsed, then the data store cloned for each recipe which then overlays its own values | 18:04 |
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manuel1985 | rburton: I see, thank you | 18:07 |
ad__ | hi after a recent upgrade to dunfell, seems imx6 vivante xorg driver is missing. if i try to add f86-video-imx-vivante i get : xf86-video-imx-vivante was skipped: incompatible with machine | 18:07 |
rburton | ad__: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-freescale/tree/recipes-graphics/xorg-driver/xf86-video-imx-vivante_6.4.0.p0.0.bb?h=master#n65 <-- presumably you're not using one of those machines | 18:08 |
rburton | if your have a custom machine that does support it then use a bbappend to change COMPATIBLE_MACHINE | 18:09 |
ad__ | rburton, well in my custom machine i have "MACHINEOVERRIDES =. "mx6:mx6q:"" | 18:10 |
khem | rburton: clang-tidy is neat too | 18:10 |
rburton | ad__: COMPATIBLE_MACHINE doesn't care about overrides, it's literal string matching on MACHINE | 18:10 |
rburton | so just add a bbappend | 18:10 |
ad__ | rburton, thanks a lot. doing that | 18:11 |
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ad__ | rburton, mm in my bbappend i added COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = '(imx6q-mymachine)' but still getting same error | 18:24 |
rburton | try just unsetting it :) | 18:25 |
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khem | rburton: where are we with optee-test issue ? | 18:33 |
khem | http://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Build/111424/ | 18:33 |
khem | it works ok with clang btw. so thanks for that :) | 18:34 |
ad__ | rburton, : ok there was more recipes with same name involved :) | 18:36 |
ad__ | thanks a lot for super support :=) | 18:37 |
khem | RP: master-next needs something like http://sprunge.us/WZlrme or you gonna see lot of red on AB | 18:38 |
RP | khem: thanks, not got around to testing that yet! | 18:40 |
RP | khem: squashed in | 18:41 |
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rburton | khem: we're at goddamnit optee stage | 19:11 |
khem | this is only package showing red in my CI | 19:17 |
RP | agaikova: FWIW I added a fix for the valgrind musl issue to gatesgarth-next as we need the fix urgently for 3.2 rc2 | 19:22 |
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fenrig | Hi how do I use python3-native from openembbed? I've added the RDEPENDS="python3-pyopenssl-native" but when I execute the recipe that uses python3 it complains about pyopenssl missing. So I assume it uses the python of the host | 19:26 |
RP | fenrig: did you inherit python3native ? | 19:28 |
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fenrig | no | 19:29 |
fenrig | so just | 19:29 |
fenrig | inherit python3-native ? | 19:29 |
fenrig | oh ok I found the bbclass | 19:30 |
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fenrig | @RP: thx dude | 19:32 |
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fenrig | RP: it's working like it should now | 19:32 |
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manuel1985 | Which tools do you usually use to checkout all the repositories, a typical yocto project consists of? I'm using googles repo tool, but dislike it. I'm looking for alternatives. | 19:51 |
khem | manuel1985: git submodules | 19:52 |
manuel1985 | You have your build directory outside of the poky repo, don't you? | 19:54 |
manuel1985 | I would like to keep them inside poky, but that would need me to change the .gitignore of that repo. | 19:55 |
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kergoth | kas, repo, submodules, myrepos, etc. lots of options, but what works best for you depends on your usage and workflow. | 19:55 |
kergoth | manuel1985: or just don't use poky directly. | 19:56 |
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kergoth | poky is basically bitbake+oe-core+meta-yocto | 19:56 |
kergoth | so youc an put those wherever you like | 19:56 |
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khem | I think monorepo is the way to go usually | 19:57 |
zeddii | cd layer; git pull | 19:57 |
khem | whatever you use to set it us like kergoth said is own taste | 19:57 |
manuel1985 | kergoth: Thanks for the tools you mentioned, will look into them first. | 20:00 |
khem | git subtrees is also an option | 20:01 |
kergoth | there are lots of tools for a more monorepo type setup, the one poky uses, git-subtree, or then ones that don't relate to the scm at all, like peru | 20:01 |
kergoth | yeah :) | 20:01 |
kergoth | https://github.com/apenwarr/git-subtrac is quite interesting. it uses submodules, but actually stores the subrepo objects in the main repo, which means you can always clone and set it up independent of the state of actual upstream repositories | 20:02 |
kergoth | oh, also https://github.com/ingydotnet/git-subrepo | 20:05 |
kergoth | (haven't tried that one) | 20:05 |
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khem | yeah my method is clone all the repos to somewhere I can control and use git submods | 20:23 |
khem | cuts the chase pretty early on both producer and consumer side | 20:23 |
sgw | RP Morning! Is there a replacement for Distrodata bbclass that you removed about 2 years ago? Package manifest and build history don't quite provide the right info. | 20:23 |
khem | some projects dont respect public branches or may rewrite transfer etc. so you need to offset that | 20:24 |
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RP | sgw: you can query directly with tinfoil | 20:33 |
RP | sgw: I think we updated some of the selftests to show how to do that? | 20:34 |
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sgw | RP: Ok, that means a separate script then right | 20:36 |
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RP | sgw: yes, but you'd need one anyway | 20:38 |
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rburton | RP: are we waiting on a fix from bluelightning for the buildhistory thing, or is that revert in next hitting master? | 20:51 |
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RP | rburton: revert hitting master. Its not a simple fix | 21:01 |
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bluelightning | right, I have to redo it, it can wait | 21:08 |
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RP | JPEW: around? | 22:28 |
RP | https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20201022-tf6b08oj/packages/diff-html/ from https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=stable/dunfell-nut&id=e555c1e3d77d2cf2e758626444a0af500e178b6b which I think could be explained and fixed with something like http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=a124b0305fd5f679bf2b0a16c10e94e8405748db | 22:28 |
JPEW | Ya, I'm here | 22:28 |
RP | JPEW: sakoman is running into it in dunfell, I think we'll have the same issue in master. hashequiv isn't accounting for timestamps leading to misleading matches? | 22:29 |
RP | JPEW: I'm concerned that I reverted that in my local test queue so there was some issue, I just can't remember what | 22:30 |
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JPEW | Hmm, I'm not sure. It' the timestamps in internal the package files themselves, which seems more like a problem with the packaging tools? | 22:32 |
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JPEW | Oh, maybe the internal files are different because of the timestamps of the actual files | 22:33 |
sakoman | The timestamps in the package files match the new upstream tarball | 22:33 |
sakoman | master should have the same fetch issue, since both master and dunfell are at netbase 6.1 | 22:33 |
JPEW | Ah, it thinks they are equivalent because it doesn't know about the timestamps? | 22:34 |
JPEW | is the theory? | 22:34 |
sakoman | Yes, I think that is RP's theory | 22:34 |
sakoman | The new upstream tarball has the same version number, same contents (modulo changelog) but different timestamps on the identical files | 22:35 |
sakoman | and of course a new tarball filename | 22:36 |
RP | JPEW: hashequiv is saying they're the same, reproducible builds is saying they're not | 22:37 |
RP | sakoman: I think I remember what the patch needs. I think we care about timestamps in some tasks but not others where we only care about the content | 22:38 |
JPEW | sakoman, RP: Ya, that seems reasonable | 22:38 |
RP | my patch applies for all tasks whereas it only probably should apply to some subset | 22:38 |
RP | I suspect I never worked out the subset | 22:39 |
JPEW | Anything that is encoded in the sstate needs to be in the hash caculation | 22:39 |
RP | at the very least it needs to do this for do_package | 22:41 |
JPEW | ya | 22:41 |
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RP | JPEW: I'm too tired/fried to think straight about that right now... | 22:43 |
JPEW | Ya, fair. I need to hang up today too. I'll try to look tomorrow | 22:44 |
* RP is slightly concerned he looked at that in January | 22:44 | |
RP | JPEW: thanks, I just wondered if a second pair of eyes might see (or remember) something I don't | 22:44 |
JPEW | The theory sounds correct at least | 22:45 |
sakoman | Thanks RP, JPEW! | 22:47 |
RP | JPEW: thanks. Will think some more tomorrow too | 22:49 |
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