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moto-timo | zeddii: can you branch meta-cloud-services for gatesgarth please ? | 01:39 |
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zeddii | it's not ready yet :D | 01:40 |
moto-timo | oh bummer | 01:40 |
zeddii | neither is meta-virt. I hope early next week. | 01:40 |
moto-timo | rpi4 kernel is failing to compile on linux-yocto-dev 5.10-rc so I am reverting... | 01:40 |
moto-timo | ah ok | 01:40 |
moto-timo | I finally figured out my dns woes so I want to get k8s running on the rpi4 (yp-dev-day_virtualization) | 01:41 |
zeddii | nice. | 01:42 |
moto-timo | my stupid ISP puts 4 nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf | 01:42 |
zeddii | the wind river BSP guy (who's name has escaped me), will be sending 5.10 rpi curated patches FWIW. | 01:42 |
moto-timo | and then all the DHCP devices blindly follow suit... | 01:42 |
moto-timo | oh good | 01:43 |
moto-timo | Ming Li or something like that | 01:43 |
zeddii | I'm still not able to get my single node master / agent k3s to work, I wasn't able to look at it again today. So I'm going to try once more on Monday before decided if I just boot k3s to the next release. | 01:43 |
zeddii | yes. he's very good with the changes. He contacted me about three weeks ago to confirm the plan. | 01:43 |
moto-timo | yeah... I haven't tried k3s either... | 01:44 |
zeddii | yah. wait on that. when I'm done, there will be a step by step README and packagegroups, kernel configs, etc, that should make it much easier. | 01:44 |
moto-timo | I keep meaning to build it | 01:44 |
moto-timo | nice | 01:44 |
zeddii | I just can't get the agent to register. complains about either a certificate or username/password, or something similar. but it is quite close. | 01:44 |
zeddii | I uprev'd k3s to the latest, hoping for some magic. | 01:45 |
zeddii | alas, no. same problem :D | 01:45 |
moto-timo | because of Tekton, I am finally learning k8s | 01:45 |
moto-timo | sigh | 01:45 |
zeddii | quite honestly, I find some of their concepts a bit obtuse. | 01:45 |
moto-timo | so much promise, so much pain | 01:45 |
moto-timo | indeed | 01:45 |
zeddii | it's really, really, really hard to figure out what has gone wrong and get the right logs, etc. | 01:45 |
moto-timo | We now have another open source project that has a very steep learning curve but is very flexible and capable... | 01:46 |
zeddii | and heaven forbid you figure out that containerd/runc, etc, were all down there doing the lifting | 01:46 |
moto-timo | strange nobody bitches about the ramp up constantly... | 01:46 |
zeddii | that's an apt description. | 01:46 |
zeddii | the docs are scattered / terrible for it too. | 01:46 |
zeddii | but again, at least I don't see all the bitching. | 01:46 |
zeddii | I guess you need google standing behind you. | 01:46 |
moto-timo | tgamblin and I basically figure the biggest service we are performing is gathering all those scattered things in one place ;) | 01:47 |
zeddii | I agree, 100% | 01:47 |
zeddii | the info is out there, collecting it coherently is the challenge. That's basically what I'm doing with k3s. | 01:47 |
moto-timo | I beat my head on cri-o and calico on debian-10 | 01:47 |
moto-timo | cri-o is fine, but calico... | 01:48 |
moto-timo | I should have just used the default bridge networking... stupid human tricks | 01:48 |
zeddii | heheh. there's a reason why the CNCF ecosytem chart looks like a star field when viewed at 100% | 01:48 |
moto-timo | or stuck with flannel | 01:48 |
moto-timo | ha | 01:48 |
zeddii | CNI and networking, yet more magic, buried way at the bottom. | 01:48 |
zeddii | I struggled how to integrate and split it in meta-virt for k3s. | 01:49 |
moto-timo | I've figured out dozens of ways to make it not work | 01:49 |
zeddii | lol. I was going to say the same thing. | 01:49 |
zeddii | unreachable urls are my specialty | 01:49 |
moto-timo | Luckily I've seen enough patterns now to fix things (except calico) | 01:49 |
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moto-timo | but which tool to use ? kubectl? tkn? dmesg? which log is the magic one that has the special sauce? roll the dice | 01:50 |
zeddii | journalctl -xe > f; grep "wtf" f | 01:50 |
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zeddii | system really makes seeing the logs for some things hard | 01:51 |
moto-timo | | tee /dev/null | 01:51 |
moto-timo | yup | 01:51 |
zeddii | there used to just be stuff in /var/log .. alas. | 01:51 |
moto-timo | and with Tekton, sometimes it's the dashboard that actually has the log you want to see (then you learn how to get the info from tkn) | 01:51 |
zeddii | hah. 7 layers to get to the error message you can google :D | 01:52 |
moto-timo | oh, thank you so much for cloud-init | 01:52 |
moto-timo | I haven't used it yet, but that's on deck for the weekend | 01:52 |
zeddii | it was a bear to get building / generating service files. I smoke tested it, it starts up. but it has a configuration learning curve to make it right for what your image wants. | 01:53 |
moto-timo | along with every other tool in this space :D | 01:53 |
zeddii | I could see a cloud-init.bbclass or something like that for recipes / images to configure it, but that was overkill until I had a few examples of using it. | 01:53 |
moto-timo | yeah. I'll be capturing some patterns soon enough. | 01:54 |
zeddii | yah. it can configure a LOT of stuff. I had to throw out everything I had done for openstack. so this is new, shiny and unconfigured. | 01:54 |
moto-timo | lol | 01:54 |
zeddii | heck, just using it to set the hostname is a victory. | 01:54 |
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moto-timo | \o/ | 01:54 |
zeddii | meaning, that's surprisingly hard to do in an image recipe | 01:54 |
zeddii | and that can make them unique on startup, etc. that's what I did in openstack, but they changed the config, so I deleted it for now. | 01:55 |
moto-timo | yep... and I've got that shiny ubuntu-20.04 image running on kvm to finally login to :) | 01:55 |
zeddii | still steaming .debs in the morning dew. | 01:56 |
moto-timo | make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'overlays/at86rf233.dtbo'. Stop. | 01:57 |
moto-timo | oh well | 01:57 |
moto-timo | time to power down the droids I guess | 01:58 |
moto-timo | have a great weekend zeddii | 01:58 |
zeddii | yep. call it a weekend, and pick up the bits on Monday. | 01:58 |
zeddii | likewise! | 01:58 |
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moto-timo | I guess we don't have a recipe for crictl (https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/cri-tools) yet | 19:07 |
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